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A Vae Inquiry

Vae

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This has probably been posted in the past, so if it has, please delete or lock or whatever the protocol is. These are the type of things I think of during the day, so I'd love it if a handful of y'all would entertain me.

Here's the question: WHY are you a lee/ler? Or better phrased, why do you prefer to tickle/be tickled over the other?

Most of your know I'm a lee. I have tendencies to go towards the ler side of things, but truth be told, I would be a horrible ler. If I'm tickling someone, it's because I'm trying to show my utmost affection; that can be towards a very dear friend or my fiance. As a lee, it's a whole different story.

I believe that I am a lee for two reasons. Number one is that tickling feels good for me. You always hear about those girls who hate the feeling of tickling. I love it. I love the sensation, the soft stroking of skin over sensitive spots. I enjoy it so much that I often have my fiance tickle those spots that aren't ticklish, like my back for instance. Along with this, I love to laugh and I'm very easily amused. So to be tickled is a particular heaven for me that I can rarely get enough of. The only reason my sessions stop because I'm exhausted and can't laugh anymore, not because I can't take the sensation anymore.

The second reason is more psychological. I am a worry wart. I worry about everything. I analyze every relationship I have and every action I make. I try to predict others reactions, so I can react accordingly. I try to imagine the worst possible outcome to all things so I can be pleasantly surprised or prepared. In other words, I can be very tight and highly stressed a lot. I keep a tight control on my life as much as possible (not that I'm saying I try to control others; it's more than I control myself and try to keep tabs on everything that could possibly happen to me). My worries go so deep that sometimes I can't avoid them. If I'm too worried about something, I can't sleep or I dream about them. When I'm being tickled, however, all of this vanishes. This is the deepest reason why I am a lee. When I'm being tickled for an extended period of time, I can't possibly think of anything but how much those fingers are tickling me. I can't do anything but laugh. Breathing is effort for me. In that moment, the world is gone; it's just the sensation now.

So there's my reasons. Gib me yours!
 
hey Vae great reasons. i am a lee because i like to give up control. however i have never experienced it yet. but i am so very ticklish that i could and would only want to be a lee. i have no desire to tickle others. however the other night my husbands bare foot was sticking out at the end of the couch. i had this strangest urge to grab it and tickle it. i slowly placed my hand near it and he said dont you dare. lol he is very ticklish but hates it.

i was like you , worried about everything. lately, maybe since finding this forum, i dont worry nearly as much.

isabeau
 
Inquiry

It's hard to be a lee if you're not ticklish, so I guess that's why I'm not a lee.

I've never thought about why I enjoy tickling a girl, I just accept the fact that I do. It's not always about sex, or punishment or even control. For me it may be the struggle and the laughter that so delightful to me.

That being said though, I have used tickling as a means to sex and as a means of punishment, but very seldom. I tickle mostly just for fun.
 
I'm a ler because I love to tickle, really. It sounds simplistic, and in a way it is, but I just love the feel of ticklish flesh beneath my fingers, I love the way that lees react when they're tickled (especially if they enjoy it), I love the laughter it produces. The non-simplistic sense is that I love the control aspect. For the most part, I'm an easygoing, almost doormat kind of person. I'm not one to step up and take charge, and far more willing to follow than to lead. As a tickler, I'm the one who gets to call the shots and make the decisions, and the lee has to abide by it. I love that sense of control and power, but not more than I love the actual act of tickling. It's fun, it's mostly carefree, and like Vae said, I use it as a sign of affection. I don't tickle the ones I don't like 🙂
 
speeking as a 'ler'

Here's the question: WHY are you a lee/ler? Or better phrased, why do you prefer to tickle/be tickled over the other?

'lers' love the sound of laughing,giggling or even a roarious cackal!!! It doesn't matter 'lees' how bad a snort, or loud a laugh is, it's all music to us!!!! (with beautiful harmony) :angel: Like you Vae I have done some thinking about this and believe this:

There's a saying that eyes are the window to the soul...
Well taking it a step further Laughing is hearing that soul sing.....

'lers' and 'lees' are both very sensual people. 'Lees' love the sensation and the reaction from it, as do 'lers' but 'lers like being the cause, 'lees' like the effect. ( It all comes down to "cause and effect") :couch:

So by that motto I guess 'lers are troublemakers, and 'lees' go along for the ride! 😕
 
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i was like you , worried about everything. lately, maybe since finding this forum, i dont worry nearly as much.

Well I guess it's true laughter is good for the soul!

Now here's a counter question for 'lees':

Is it the tickling sensation that's the turn on or the laughing uncontrolably?

Why 'lees' are you NOT turned on by being a 'ler'? (of course Isabeau did kind of answer this but is she speaking for all 'lees' or just her)

I know not all 'lees' are into being tied up (which is fine for me I can take it or leave it) all must love the sensation but can anyone be more specific? ie Everyone has different eroginous zones some like their throat rubbed while others don't etc.
 
I prefer to be the ler because I'm "VERY VERY" good at it over being the lee because I'm so ticklish sometimes I give up to quickly
 
I'm a switch, someone who enjoys being both a 'ler and a 'lee equally. I'd love to tickle a female (especially her feet) and hear and see her laugh and beg for mercy. :firedevil I'd also love to be tickled by her, so that she makes ME laugh and beg for mercy. :devil: And of course, I'm sexually turned on by both scenarios. 😀
 
being a lee? I probably wouldn't have the lungs for it anymore, and would ....say...go into cardiac arrest 😀 ...!!

being a ler? it's more of a sexual thing for me. I imagine I could indulge in a "playful" tickling situation if the oppportunity ever came around, but it really revolves more around my interests in erotic tickling.
 
Im a ler, mainly like someone else said Im not very ticklish. And I will also agree with another on here that the actual laughter..the sound to me is more beautiful than a classical concert playing every piece that Beethoven ever made. Its the sound and the to a degree the control that I have at that moment that excites me. My wife loves it because she is normally a very dominant person by nature and like to be that giggly girl because then she knows shes not the one in control.

Rob
 
Hey, no shame in posting the same question again - I don't know how many times I've seen threads for, "Where are you most ticklish on your feet?" 🙂

Anyway, you and I are very much on the same wavelength (right down to our love of Firefly!). Since I'm lazy, I'm reposting the same answer I gave before:

What do I love about being tickled? I think it comes down to two things:

1) I enjoy being pushed to the point where I can no longer control my reactions. In my regular life, I teach, and speak for audiences, and even dance for performance, so I feel like I spend a lot of time thinking about how I appear to others. I love reaching the point, being tickled, where I couldn't stop laughing if I wanted to. It's wonderfully freeing.

2) I love the feel of feathers or fingers lightly stroking my skin - it's a great pleasure, pure and simple. And if it happens to tickle, well, that's just the price you pay. Some of my favorite tickles are the touches that are sensual and erotic first, then make me giggle in spite of myself.

So basically, I think it's the combination of giving up control to someone else, combined with the pleasure of the touch itself, that turns me on.
 
I think with me it's more an issue of dominance and cruelty. Like being a ruthless and wicked villian who delights in making his victims suffer but, only in fantasy. Trueth be told I'm actually very gental and kind hearted but, I do have my dark side and am drawn to dark things. I guess I'm sort of torn between good and evil. As far as being a lee goes, I get that way when I feel a need to be dominated. It's a turning of the tables. It's not unheard of for those in positions of power to have a desire to play the bottom once in a while. I think it comes from guilt and a desire for redemption. Maybe that's why I'm both a sadist and a masochist.

As far as worrying goes, I'm the same way but, I've learned to not let it control me. Whenever I get that way, I think about Axle Rose singing "...and I don't worry about nothing, because worrying's a waste of my fucking time!"
 
I lean slightly more toward 'ler.......but I absolutely do love when a lady puts her fingers to the test on me too.....and if her targets of choice are my feet.....ALL THE BETTER!!!!!

I think as a 'ler, I'm aware of a lot more that's occurring.....when I'm being tickled, all I can think is how much it tickles, and my laughter.....there's an eroticism for me in that capacity...but it's FAR more acute when I'm doing the tickling.....I get to see how the lady's feet are reacting, as well as the REST of her!! :woot: ...I also take note of the very feel....the texture...the softness....the very ambience (if you will) of the feet (this is my favorite tickle spot, in case you haven't yet divined...lol)....I love hearing the laughter and knowing that my tickling her is making as much or as little of it happen as it goes.....there's a hint MORE sensual virtue to being a 'ler.....I look forward to it ALL.
 
I love being the ler because of the laughter I pull out of my lee and the facial expressions but I am not one of the tickle for control guys.

I am a fairly new lee as compared to my ler side but I love being a lee now because it is soo new to me...I was ticklish as a kid but "lost" it during HS and thought it was gone but then some very nice ladies found my ticklish sides and many other places...I love the feel of the lers exploring over my skin, pulling out MY Laugther, finding all my tender spots...I will sometimes "help" my ler find JUST the right spot..other times I let them explore...
 
tommytikl said:
I love being the ler because of the laughter I pull out of my lee and the facial expressions but I am not one of the tickle for control guys.

Thanks for bringing that up. It made me think a little more about why I like to be ler. The laughter -to me- is like music almost and my fascination with the sensation and how pleasureable it is has always made me want to share it with someone else. It's hard to describe and I don't know why I like it exactly but, it's like an acute tingling that is both exciting and excrutiating too. It's almost like an overload of the senses. It's so sharp, so tart and yet so tasty at the same time. I better stop now before I dwell on it all night. My brain is already starting to tingle. :jester:
 
Here's a new thought (to me). You ever notice how, in a really good one-on- one session, whether you're ler or lee, your focus is just so totally on that other person?

If you're the lee, there is NOTHING else going on around you except what that ler is doing- what he/she is causing you to feel, allowing you to feel.

And if you're the ler, well, every move the lee makes, every sound the lee makes is caused by you.

You just have to be so wrapped up in each other- it's the best.

I'm a switch, love both aspects and the above thought really just crystallized in my mind today. Normally I ponder these things longer before I post, but what the heck?
 
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