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An epiphanous surrender to God:)

Ticklemmmeeeeee

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Haven't posted here in a loooong while and thought I would post a quick writing I wrote depicting a piece of my life and realizations as of late....many of you know (and most probably and rightfully so do not care,lol) that I have become a Christian ...so here is a post on my experiences and recent epipheny with ending a relationship, losing a piece of myself and surrendering myself to God (or not as it turned out)...enjoy, or enjoy hating it,lol.

Perhaps the greatest most cruel deceit we experience is discovered when we trust the "certain assurances" of life's marvelous promises. We all seem to have our own ideas of what happiness means...entails...is dependent upon. Often the "certain assurance" of indestructable happiness is a beautiful gate. This entrance declares, The door to eden....however, it actually enters the garden of misery. In this garden is unimaginable emptiness. Accompanying that emptiness is indescribable pain.

No ones primary ambition in life is to experience misery. No ones intention in life is to live in despair. In the later stages of adolescence and the early stages of adult life, we independently choose our first paths. We choose those paths in the full conviction that they are the paths to happiness. Our selections are made in the unshakable confidence that our dreams will become our reality.

Happiness will come when we experience our dreams, or so we believe. Living in pleasure guarantees happiness...or so we believe. When our dreams are reality , misery and despair are impossibilities...or so we believe.

Why are we so easily deceived by life's promise of the marvelous? We try to escape misery by pretending to experience pleasure. When we mask misery with the faces of pleasure we ask to be deceived. We beg deception to deceive us. This results in a faked innocence of self-deception, we live in the pre-fabricated pretense of empty illusions.

at some point our misery so overwhelms us it becomes undeniable. Then we confess the reality of our unhappiness. If people closest to you cannot value and love you, how can God value and love you? This is the lie we begin to believe. The ultimate deceit is the conviction that God cannot love me if people do not love me. The ultimate conviction that failed human relationships make a relationship with God possible.

self-deceit is too easy if ur not looking for it....we can lie to ourselves about ourselves more convincingly than we can lie to anyone else about anything else because we let ourselves get away with it. Why do we lie to ourselves? What is it that we lie about? What would we so desperately need to believe that we make ourselves believe that which is untrue so we may go on believing in it? I've pretty much given up everything to be a child of God....everything, that is except the child of God...myself...I've been living with a troublesome unsurrendered self, spoiling my own happiness and the happiness of those around me until something the likes of losing someone so close jolted me into the necessity of self-surrender. I have heard people and God's word telling me I have to surrender to God and I made myself believe the illusion I tried so desperately to convince them of, because I needed to believe it myself....that being, that I had indeed surrendered to Him....however, I was instead looking for evidence of surrender , resulting joy, instead of centering the surrender in an act of my will , leaving my emotions to take care of myself, a selfish act . I didn't get it before but now I think I do, or at least am closer to getting it...the order of true surrender is first faith, then fact then feeling.

I am in no way suggesting that self-surrender solves all of ones problems, the result will be dependent upon how I respond to it and whether it manifests itself in my daily life...I feel as though it is , so perhaps I am on the right path. I do not know all that my surrender will not accomplish yet but I do know what it will do.....it will re-establish a rightness in my relationship with God...my relationship with myself and my relationships with other people.
Being so close to and right with God gives me a safe and loving foundation upon which to work out my problems and center my life. It puts my feet on the way to solving my problems in a way that glorifies God not me and brings praise to Him, not me or other people. It is only because of God that I am able to do what I do, He gets the praise not me. It is only through God that I can love another and he will love me, but without praising God first, that love is selfishly based, not Godly based. All love without God is selfish. How do I make this conslusion? God is love. God created us. The creation does not exist without the creator, neither does the created determine how the creator dictates the creation, the creator dictates the destiny and outcome of the created. Void of God's interpretation of the very creations He made, we define ourselves for ourselves and measure ourselves by ourselves. See the ridiculousness in attempting to alter this?

Surrender to God is the only way to true happiness. It is only in giving ourselves to God that we truly gain our genuine selves back.

Sadly, not wanting to surrender to God does not release you from surrendering.
You , me, we will all surrender to something....some people surrender to "themselves" as God. I can almost guarantee that if you surrender to yourself as God you will not like your God. You will do as you like and then you won't like what you do. You will express yourself and then you won't like the self you express. You won't like yourself and no one else will really like you either.
People following and praising you is not the same as people liking you, I know, I have had followers and much praise in my life but very few I was genuinly close to.

Therefore, if you don't surrender yourself to God, you will probably surrender to someone else as God, and if you do you will probably be disillusioned. Every human idol has feet of clay.

If you surrender to money , you make money your God....surrender to your fetishes and you make your fetishs your God....If you surrender to society , you make society your God. If you surrender to a lover you make him your God and if he does not love God he can't possibly love himself or you either.

If you truly desire a loving relationship God tells us to start with Him because He loved us first.
I wish to experience the re-birth of my soul through self-surrender , but self-surrender means not only the new birth of a soul it means the birth of everything...new relationship to God, to myself, to society, new outlook on life, new method of responding to daily problems, new power to face whatever comes, new sense of inner unity and belonging, new resources to live by....sound extreme?

The alternative is not whether to surrender or not to surrender. We all surrender from the moment two cells surrender to each other to form a new life down to the moment when our bodies are surrendered to the grave.
So, yes, we all surrender.
Some of the surrenders are built in necessities to surrender. We have to surrender if we are to survive. There are built in necessary surrenders such as a new baby surrendering to it's mothers breast for survival.
But some surrenders are optional, optional with results or consequences. We are free to choose but not free to choose the results or consequences of our choices.
They are in hands not our own. I think some people go through life choosing to surrender to the right person and submit to the right things ...they get results...the sum total of reality is behind them...they now have solid backing for their way of life. But others will go thru life surrendering to the wrong person or things ...they get consequences...they are up against reality...they are frustrated...in trouble with themselves and others....whether it is a once-for-all surrender brought about by a life crisis or a day by day realization that brings about your surrendering self....surrender is essential to being truly free to be who you really are and live how you honestly want to. Any thoughts? Confirmations? Testimonies? Hate mail? Letter bombs?..LOL 🙂

::::waves hello to all my friends I never get to see or talk to anymore::::: 🙂🙂





:happyfloa :bouncybou :upsidedow :xpulcy:
 
Words cannot express how overjoyed I am for you, for your conversion, and for the truths you are coming to know in your life.

May this intensity, this selfless love and compassion never part with you. May God continue to inspire you and be your source of life and love. May His love, the true love, be for you a strength in moments of weakness, and may you grow in that love both in His loving service and in the loving service of others.

May this surrender never be misundertood for weakness, may this surrender always remind you of the sacrifice He made for you though His son, our Lord, Jesus Christ.

On behalf of all Christians everywhere, whether they be catholic or protestant, I welcome you.

It is very good to see you back, indeed. Please keep in touch. ^__^


Kindest personal regards,

- Damien
 
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It's good to see you back, Ticklemmmeeeeee, and I wish you happiness in your newfound faith. 😀
 
Congratulations Ticklemmmeee! You have found what took me almost 44 years to discover. That God and Jesus wuv us all so much. A wuv so pure and divine that it will always be hard for us to truly comprehend. There are times however when I catch glimpses of God's great plans or moments where for an instant I feel the true awesome power of that divine love. It moves me beyond words and strengthens my faith even more. A new age is coming and the time has come for us all to shine. It is nice to see Ticklemmmeee that you are shining so bright already. Peace and wuv.


"For with God nothing shall be impossible."
The New Testament The Gospel According To St. Luke 1:37
 
Celtic_Emperor, Milagros, Kurch and Sole seeker...Thank you and the warmest of hellos to you my friends🙂

It is simply awesome to know there are other Christians here as well...oh yay!...::::jumps for joy in a rather ridiculous way:::: LOL. I know I am a goof🙂

Seriously though...coming to an intellectual acceptance of the existance of Jesus Christ and His life here on earth to serve us was a moment of such transition and wonder for me.

I was always so turned off to religion in general, my entire life because of people claiming to be Christians and living hypocritical lives...I knew so many people (mostly within my own family!) that were raised in Christian homes who became self proclaimed experts on biblical scripture and scholars of Gods word but still practiced whatever way of life they chose...I despised the religion because of people I personally knew who seemed to want Jesus as their savior but lived lives that seemed to reflect the complete opposite of what Jesus' life was supposed to have stood for.

I always thought (ignorantly, of course) that I knew exactly enough about God and religion that I needed to know...I knew enough to know I hated it...Sadly, the only mention of the Lords name in my home was to take His name in vain...the only times we prayed were for our own selfish desires to be fulfilled, we never prayed for others...so I became rebellious against all religion...even atheism in its strictest sense , realizing that not believing atall required more faith than believing! I mean, I knew then that even demons believe "in" God...I figured at the very least being a Christian meant not only believing "in" God but believing Him...believing what He says...I didn't though.

I mean, creation has always made more sense to me than evolution as an explanation for our existance because I kind of discarded the thought of spontaneous generation before I even had proof that it was already disproved...but then I had to explore and understand and believe in the authenticity of the bible....etc. etc...

No one ever taught me about Jesus so I never really knew why I felt the way I did, I never knew one could read the bible to learn who Jesus is and what God's word says! It's rather impossible to have faith in that which we never are exposed. Faith comes by hearing the word of God. (Romans 10:17)

I have never been one of the self-proclaimed spiritual people who were looking for a Jesus experience....I figured back in the day that one could just as easily derive such a feeling from a drug or from the beginning stages of a relationship....so if I was to really believe in God, the religion would have to appeal to my intellectualism not my heart....I am a logic freak with an intellect fetish above everything so the heart part came later for me🙂

The next "demon" I had to wrestle with was my tickling fetish....fitting my rather strange and atypical desires and interests into a life of Christianity was something I thought no mortal could do....which made me want to try that much more to do it...I've always loved having my mortality challenged,lol....

I have, thank goodness, reconciled with Gods word to strike a balance between embracing my unique personality and interests and expressing them in a way that glorifies rather than dissapoints God.

Yes, I am talking about my love for and desire for tickling in my life🙂 I was quite ecstatic to see Gods word reveal to me that getting tickled like mad is not ungodly...yes!...LOL🙂

I have , however learned so much more about what is moral and immoral in the way that I express it and to whom, by Gods standards not my own🙂 So, it's simple, I just need a husband!...j/k..lol.

Anyway, I realized that making a personal confession that God alone is the model of moral and spiritual life, that He alone is the fount of holiness and the ultimate model in whose image we are to live....the personal submission of the will in light of Jesus Christ to live in the likeness of God as reflected in Jesus. This is the essence of the fruit of the spirit of God at work in us.

It is all of this and more but it is at least that, it is more because Gods eternal purpose for us transcends simply rescuing us from sin....my purpose now is to serve Him by allowing the talents He gave to me to reveal themselves (yes, I believe I am indeed multi-talented,lol) and that I might express them in a way that brings Glory and praise to God. Thank you again for the warm welcome and it's so good to know you "tickle" guys are Christians as well...kinda gives me hope for the otherwise bleak outlook on the future of my singlehood,lol.

Peace n love...
~tm

:dog: :smilestar :bouncybou :xpulcy: :wub: :wub:
 
Beautiful Post!!!

It is an awesome thing indeed when someone surrenders to the living God. May the Peace of Christ be with you always. He will never desert you -


"My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand. I and the Father are one." John 10:27-30
 
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Welcome back TM and thanks for the testimony. The Lord truly IS good. One of the deepest truths I've discovered is how totally He loves us...even when we turn our backs on Him and slap His hand away. He's always right there waiting to take us back. May He be praised!

Ann
 
TklDuo-Ann said:
Welcome back TM and thanks for the testimony. The Lord truly IS good. One of the deepest truths I've discovered is how totally He loves us...even when we turn our backs on Him and slap His hand away. He's always right there waiting to take us back. May He be praised!

Ann

I couldn't have said it better myself!
 
TM! You're back!! I have sooo missed you.

And yes, I know exactly what you're saying about God's Love. I have written soo many poems about this. I am going to post two here. Let me know what you think.

Broken Dreams
I had a treasured childhood toy
That brought me hours of precious joy
Then, one day, when the cold wind blew
My treasured toy broke in two.
Like my treasured childhood toy
My dreams filled my heart with joy
But when they were told they would never come true
Out of my heart, my dreams, they flew.
With my toy and precious dreams
I had a heart that once did sing
But when it found out that it couldn’t have you
My fragile heart broke in two.
I took my broken things to God
And asked Him what he could do
To mend my heart, fix the toy
And make my broken dreams renew.
He said, My child, you should know
Even though it doesn’t seem
When I close a door, I open a window
And let my love’s light beam.
Give them all to me, he said
Broken toys, broken hearts and broken dreams
Trade them in for heavenly joy
Of which this world will never see.
I gave my broken things to God
To trade in for heavenly peace
He gave to me his only Son
Who gave His life to me.
 
Here's the other one!

Where Does God Fit In?

The days are always crowded
So many things to do
Sometimes, I get so busy
I forget to think of you.

I need to take a moment
To get down on my knees
Bow my humble head
And give my praise to thee.

“Where do I fit into your life”
You seem to say to me
So, as I write these words
I give my life to thee.

Written by Crystal
November 2000
Based on the sermon “Hello, How’s It Going, Goodbye”
By Rev. Ray Swallow.
Dedicated to “Grandpa Ray” Swallow
 
Good to hear from you, dear lady...I do hope that you have finally found the peace that you have sought for so long. You are a beautiful human being; don't ever let anyone tell you differently.
 
Thanks sooo much to Knox-the-Hatter, crydun (muah) , Tommytkl, the_baron, tikl-duo ann and gibby59 for the warm welcomes and hellos!!! 🙂 :bouncybou :wub: :wavingguy :cat: 😛
 
To tm:
First may I congratulate you on your new found faith. However, I am wondering why you are staying on this website? I mean no offense to the TMF, but this site, although not porn per sae, is adult oriented and if I should decide to become a Christian in the future, any sites such as this would have to go. Good luck and all the best.
 
Welcome back Ticklemmmeeeeeee!! 🙂 Long time no talk. My congrats to you also. I'm a Christian too, I hold my faith dear to my heart. It is the greatest foundation on which we can stand. Stdave, I don't find being a member of the TMF, or sharing this interest, contrary to God. I, for one, think its wonderful that we can reach out to one another to share this great interest 😀
 
leafstk said:
Welcome back Ticklemmmeeeeeee!! 🙂 Long time no talk. My congrats to you also. I'm a Christian too, I hold my faith dear to my heart. It is the greatest foundation on which we can stand. Stdave, I don't find being a member of the TMF, or sharing this interest, contrary to God. I, for one, think its wonderful that we can reach out to one another to share this great interest 😀

I agree totally, leaf. you hit the nail on the head.
 
I don't see anything wrong with being a Christian and still visiting the TMF. There certainly isn't anything inherently evil about tickling, rather it's a natural part of life. We just happen to be more interested than the average person.

Who do you think created tickling?
 
stdave 🙂

I will respond to your questions/concerns as best I can....I will tell you that visiting sites with any adult content atall was something I had to exclude from my life for a period of time when I first became a Christian...primarily as an interim necessity as I read Gods word (the bible) to see what is appropriate and not by God's standards, not my own or the world's.

Also because my faith was not yet strong enough to love God more than I loved sin. I knew I wanted to love Him enough to want to choose sin over Him but I didn't yet....at best I chose God's will as I knew it because I was being obedient.,....the desire had to come later as I grew to love Him....I now know that God loves me more than I love my sin, how profound is that?....

As time went on, I denounced adult content sites and material because of what I learned in my search for the truth in Gods word and what His expectations of me are as a disiple of Jesus Christ.

I learned many things about God and His expectations of His true disciples ..some of which many people know....some of which some people know and most of which many people believe they know but sadly have in actuality applied their own interpretations to Gods word and their own moral standards to what is acceptable in Gods eyes....

Stay with me...lol...Gods own words declare His love for everyone, from the most blatant sinner to the most devoted Christian....but God hates sin...all sin.

Now this probably is no surprise atall to most people.

What probably will surprise many and is of great misunderstanding and disagreement among most non-Christians is accurately understanding what constitutes sinful behavior and what does not.

I believe that since God is my creator and He had a purpose for me in mind that in order to truly fulfill my purpose to Him I should let Him decide what is appropriate and not, I feel I should do what He views as acceptable, and not do what He views as sinful, whether it makes sense to me or not, whether I like it or not.

I say I love Him and I do but loving someone is a selfish act if you are loving them the way YOU want to and not considering how they wish to be loved....God tells us in His word exactly how to love Him...He says that if we love Him we will keep His commands. I intend to do just that.

The reason I came back to TMF has little to do with the fact that I love tickling, little to do with the fact that I love many of my friends here and little to do with having always enjoyed the site in general.

If I decided to return for those reasons I would be serving my own selfish interests not Gods. I returned here primarily because just because I am now a Christian does not mean that I should refrain from associating from those who are not. Jesus ate with the tax collectors and prostitutes to show us through His example that we are to love and associate with everone, sinners and Christians, those devoted and those opposed. God wants separation of Christians from sins not isolation of Christians from the remainder of the world.

We are warned though to not allow the sinners sin to cause us to turn from God or to place ourselves in situations that tempt us or others, I have no intention of doing that. 🙂

I have not looked at any photos of tickling, nor will I, I have not and will not read or write any tickling stories or venture to any parts of this site or anywhere else that I will be placing myself in a tempting situation, nor will I do or say or write anything to deliberately arouse or tempt any member here, that is behavior God frowns upon.

Now, for the primary reason I am here...it is to spread the beauty and truth of Gods word to people I love, care about and wish to teach as much as I may be able to about Gods plan for our salvation and what the bible says about how to apply His word to our lives.

I have already connected with several people here who wish to study the word of God and learn more. If I can help one person learn more about Gods word then I want to do that to bring glory to God. He also tells us in His word to go out and teach the truth to all the world.

Before anyone starts lecturing me or defending their "right" to view the tickling aspects of this site or thinking I am judging anyone as a sinner...let me say that I judge no one....it is not for me to judge, I don't decide what is right and wrong anymore than any of you do🙂

That said, Stdave....I love that you asked the question that you did and I wonder about the things that are detaining you from making the leap into obeying Gods commands and becoming a Christian yourself🙂

Thank you for taking such an interest in Gods word and more importantly I think God smiled at you just a bit more for looking out for someone saying she is a Christian but did something that caused you to question that.

Peace and God Bless🙂
~tm
:bouncybou :dog: :smilestar
 
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TM, it's great that you've found religion. I'm not going to get into whether or not I think tickling is a sin, or visting tickling sites is a sin. Nothing that complicated.

I'd just like to say "good for you" and I wish you the best 🙂
 
I was always so turned off to religion in general, my entire life because of people claiming to be Christians and living hypocritical lives...
I despised the religion because of people I personally knew who seemed to want Jesus as their savior but lived lives that seemed to reflect the complete opposite of what Jesus' life was supposed to have stood for.
No denying this is true. A couple of points.

First: Christians are just saved - they're not perfect.

Second: I think there are lots of people who like that "holier than thou" feeling. These people aren't Christians. They're not even trying to be Christians. They're trying to find an advantage over others in life.

On the other hand, some Christians go to church and pray more than other folks not because they're holier than anyone else, just the opposite is true. They need religion more than most. I fall into this category.
 
Well all I can say is that I have seen some of your posts on this site,so I really don't know you but I am truly happy that you have been given the gift of life by the grace of God!!!It is always a great thing to welcome another person into the body of Christ.

Everyday I have a crisis of belief in that I dont know whether to to trust God's way or do it "Ron's" way.Well my way is self-centered and destructive.My Faith in God has always (since I was saved) allowed me to follow God's will and the transformation of myself has been a constant growing experience.

A brother in Christ had me read this short passage about "The crisis of Belief" An encounter with God requires faith.Encounters with God are God-sized. What you do in response to God's revelation(His invitation to become a part of the body of Christ) reveals what you believe about God. True Faith requires action.

So I can see by your actions, God is truly within you,and we should all praise for that. NOw after reading this thread I have decided to cancel my long-planned meeting with someone from this site that was not an action that would show anyone my faith. I will say I relate to pauls letter to the Romans 7:7-25,in which he tells us well 7:15 says it all: I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do,but what I hate to do I do.

So, once again He speaks to me through circumstance (reading this thread) and so I say Thank you Lord for this thread (as funny as that sounds) and for you Ticklemeeeee I am happy that your ears and eyes have been opened to the love of God our Father.

Ronnie


Father, we ask you to increase in us, while we decrease, and allow the Holy Spirit to lead us in our prayers
 
something you said has me wondering?

hi t.m. i'm happy for you. you found the help you needed, and as long as you are a happy person for it, and not degenerate into a self hating, guilt ridden person, all power to you.

but you said you've become a christian. what were you before? moslem, hebrew, buddist? it personal i know, but i am truely interested.

steve
 
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