Answer me honestly, gentlemen....

[isabeau]

IMO make up dose not make you look better. I think it makes you think you look better. I have said this many times but women look good period with or with out make up. My gf loves to wear make up but I always tell her she dose not need it. Its what is on the inside that counts not the outside. I just wish people would stop putting so much thought on how people look it dose not matter at all. As long as you are a good person that is all that should matter but sadly it dose not.

i so agree.. my sister plasters her whole face with makeup, yet forgets her neck and that looks just awful.. now for me i only wear a bit of makeup.. i hate that painted up look

isabeau

 

[Fire_Sprite]

I tell my g/f all the time that I like her hair or what she's wearing but if I ever went into a long winded discussion about how I appreciate what she does to look better I have a feeling she'd regard it as a joke. One time she switched from glasses to contacts and I told her she was cuter with the glasses. She said "I did too" and never wore her contacts again.

Its like that saying "if you do your job right, no one will talk to you about it." I know that sounds sexist as hell, women don't have any real obligation to make themselves more attractive but it is a standard perpetuated by women. The beauty tips and fashion magazines are written by women for women. Women see actresses and models with their hair done a certain way and adopt the style. That style was more than likely made by a female stylist. I'm not saying there's some female conspiracy running behind the scenes or that women are shallow, I'm just saying thats its simply "a girl thing."

Its true that most guys don't notice the lengths girls go through to increase how attractive they are because guys don't ussually work on their bodies nearly as much. Its partly because guys put more emphasis on physical attraction than girls and partly because the social standard for an attractive guy is pretty much what we naturally look like. Women do a lot of things to be more attractive to the opposite sex but its the same general principle as people who have gardens and work on their cars. The reasons for it are both internal and external. It makes you feel better that you're improving yourself or your lifestyle and that you're doing it in a way other people can appreciate. You like it when someone says "you have a really pretty garden." You'd like it a lot more if someone says "I love your garden. The roses are absolutely breathtaking, etc..." but you can't really expect people to react like that.

I'm having trouble explaining the properly so I'll just say that it isn't a rule, its a standard. Don't like waxing? Stop, but be prepared for the consequences. Don't like washing your car? Stop, but be prepared for the consequences. Don't like spending time with your family? Stop, but be prepared for the consequences.

 

[Redmage]

I believe women put the extra effort into making themselves look good because it is a standard set by society! Don't get me wrong, women do use the extra effort to attract men, but a well rounded woman knows she can get a dick whenever she wants (which is so true because so many guys will do anything for sex) so she uses that effort to compete with and out-do other women.

Any competition is based on a goal. The competitor who achieves the goal first, or most often, is the winner. If it's a race, the goal is the finish line and the first one there is the winner. In baseball the goal is touching three bases and home plate, and the team that does it the most wins.

So while I agree with you that this is a competition, I'm not understanding how you think the winner is selected. It's not just a generic attempt to "out-do other women." You have to ask, "out-do them at what?"

It seems to me that the goal is attracting the attention of whichever gender the woman prefers, and that the "competition" is to see who can do it first or most frequently.

Men approach women and it is the woman who decides if sex will happen or not!

You're treating this as a competition for sex, but very often that's not a woman's goal. Sex might be part of it, but they tend to be a little more relationship oriented than we guys are. It's also worth noting that women can make the approach and men can decide whether or not sex happens. Sometimes men do say no.

The woman is making herself look good to out-do the other women to divert male attention. For those of you who don't understand what I mean...the primary motive for making herself look good is to compete with and out-do other women and the secondary motive is in being approached and noticed by men. The more attention you get, the more options you have. And having more options isn't a bad thing!

I think you're separating those into two goals when they're really one. A competition can't happen without a goal, and that goal is the attention of men or women, whichever gender the woman prefers.

 

[stloldg]

Wow, everyone has made some really valid points. To me it is "To each his own". Basically guys like what they like. I wear makeup, but there's times I leave the house without any, and I'm comfortable with that. Someone said it earlier that it's the "inner beauty" that some guys notice. There have been times when I am in such a great mood (no makeup, but I don't care) and I get compliments from people. I think when you feel good, no matter what you're wearing or not wearing, it really shows and people gravitate toward that.

--T

I agree with Tamia

It’s always amazing to me when ladies want to use men for an excuse for whatever goes wrong in their life. When it’s your inner self you should be working on, outer beauty only last so long. If you don’t have substance or lack confidence in yourself, it doesn’t matter what you do to the outside you will always attract the wrong type of men.

My wife do not wear make up and she is more beautiful now then she was when she was 18. The difference is she started to belief in herself more over the last 10 years and she is more comfortable with herself then she every been.

 

[steph]

absolutely!

(Glam gal weighing in here...)
If I have a major date for play or a gathering to go to, I prep like a movie star hitting the red carpet! I literally spend 2 days. And, no, I don't put on 2 days of makeup, you goofs! I mean hair, nails, waxing, making sure clothes are hot and fit well, polishing all of the jewelry...
I do it for me, because I enjoy it. And if the guy appreciates it, and I beleive they do, (because they've told me so) that's just a nice extra!
XOXO

I know a lot of women who feel that way. They don't care about really dressing up or going all out or whatever, but every now and then, you just want to let loose and overdo it a bit.

 

[naughty1]

Yes, I notice...

If there is beauty, I will see
If there is beauty, I will hear the sweet sound of her gentle laughter
If there is beauty, I will smell her sweet scents and my heart will beat yet faster
If there is beauty, I will gently touch her soul, hold her close, tickle her not just with words but also with the fire of feelings that flow from them ever so freely
If there is beauty, I will not let a day go by when I do not acknowledge every aspect of it
If there is beauty, I will know and she will know...because I will tell her
But I am very lucky, indeed, because there is always beauty,
Everywhere I look...everywhere I go.

Well, that's my answer. Ladies, I'd just like to add to that that if you happen to be in the produce section in a Southern California market and a man comes up to you and tells you how lovely you look today, or how exquisitely beautiful you are, or what lovely eyes or lovely hands or exquisite feet you have...please don't throw a cantaloupe at him, because that might be me.

By the way, Jami, I haven't seen a photo of you, but I have been exposed enough to what's on the inside to safely say that the beauty definitely starts there...so stop picking on yourself! You are beautiful! Anybody care to second that?

 

[mistertickle123]

I might be a bit old school but I have always complimented a woman when she looks good to me, regardless of whether she is in a pair of sweats or an evening gown.

Attractiveness and our attraction to people to me is actually a combination of things not all just physical.

I do however love when a woman makes an effort to look her best and definitely make it a point (sometimes subtly, sometimes more directly) to let her know that her shoes are sexy or the color nail polish she has on her fingers or toes is pretty, that I love her hair the way she has it, that a skirt or blouse she is wearing really looks great on her. I'll even comment on her smile or bubbly personality.

If she's willing to take the time to look good for me or just to look that way in general I feel the least I can do is thank her by paying her a compliment. After all I do get to enjoy seeing her and we all like to be complimented at least some of the time even though we don't always all admit it.

When tickle play partners remember little things I've mentioned during chats or surprise me by wearing something I like it's a real pleasure and treat. I definitely not only acknowledge it but love to reward them accordingly for being so thoughtful.

 

[Angel_2]

Another thing I don't get is why women use so much make-up to look good, imo make-up dose not really do much, it helps yes but I like the more natural look on a women. God made you who you are I say embrace it and love who you are on the inside and outside. Looks should not matter so much, don't get me wrong there is some importance to them but not as much as people place on them today. It seems that if you are not a model or a really hot girl your ugly and that is not right. I feel everyone has their own beauty that makes them who they are.

 

[Avenger314]

Warning: This post is equal parts rant and (I hope!) intelligent opinion. Read as you will. Also, at times it will seem like I'm contraditcing myself in what I say. This, regrettably, is unavoidable, becuse I honestly believe that sometimes there are 'rules' or influences that 'pull' in different directions.

Yeah, there's a little to much 'men are dumb oafs' bullshit here. Let's see if I can maybe reduce that juuuust a tad.

First of all, the problem is that appearance improvement is often subtle. It's not so much to bring up positives as to decrease negatives. Many of the things you've mentioned, such as eyebrow plucking, waxing, etc, exist to remove 'imperfections.' (Quote marks included to avoid rants). Even a foundataion, base, or whatever the hell it's called (that thing you apply with a circular spongy thing that has flesh-colored makeup) exists to help promote uniformity and symetry on the face.
The symmetrical part of this argument is that often the reactions are subtle as well: A brief smile, a gaze that lingers a couple seconds, a memory of seeing you hours later.

Another problem is that unless a guy views all body parts/aspects of beauty equally, you're going for a spread approach rather than concnetration. So he might not care that your eyes are shaded just right, or that your lipstick accents your fair skin perfectly. He might like bums. Or breasts. Or only BBW's or non BBW's. Or, here's a shock, feet.
Take feet, for example. Hardly a taboo subject here on the TMF. To me, it gets somewhat frustrating when a girl I date does almost everything except bare her feet or wear open shoes. It's like she'd rather look good to herself than listen to what I like. As I once told a girlfriend, in thinly veiled frustration: "When I get to tickle you, or when you walk around barefoot, that's all you need. You become the prettiest girl I've ever seen, bar none." She could be wearing ripped jeans, a sweatshirt, and no makeup, and she'll be a sex goddess anyway if I get to tickle her.

Another aspect: Complimenting women is a big no-no in today's society. If I said to a woman at my job, "You look nice today," She might say thank you. She might get pleased. Or, I might find myself in my boss's office, with him explaining to me why that's not appropriate in the workplace. And my boss isn't an asshole. He's actually a good boss. He'd just need to tell me, basically for my own good. It's just the way society is. Want someone to blame? Blame whoever it was that made it so that paying a compliment is sexual harrassment and therefore one step shy of rape.

Now, supposing I date a girl or that there exists an environemnt where I can compliment her. I often do. Many's the time I've said to a girl I dated, "Oh, you look nice today" or "I like that shirt" or "wow, nice shoes," or some such. (I happen to notice clothing more than makeup. I don't know if that's just me or if it's a general trend). It's effort that counts. If someone tries to look good, and I'm able to recognize the effort, I appreciate it. (On a side note, I'm against the concept of $50 sweaters and various other name-brand issues, so it's tricky with me. But that's my own foible, not that of men at large. Don't worry, I'll compliment a girl in a nice dress even if it cost $4).
The counterpoint (not quite a problem) is that I, and many other guys, are easily pleased. Having a girl willing to date us is about 90% of the battle. Many of us don't need much else. As has been said, 'icing on the cake' and all that.

And, now to go on the rant(ier) part. Why exactly are we assuming that women exist to receive compliments, and that men are either insensitive oafs who don't give compliments, or that they are... acceptable people who give compliments.
I call bullshit. Men can have feelings too, without being gay or being wusses. How often do you ladies say nice things about the men they see? I've been busting my ass at the gym 5 days a week to work out (time to update that other thread), and you know what? I'd LIKE a few compliments about losing weight, because I know I have been. If I decide to dress up semi-well, I don't mind a compliment. Ditto tan, etc. (No makeup for guys, of course). But even so, it shouldn't kill a woman to tell a guy he's losing weight, has a nice tan, looks spiffy, and so on. Women I know, even those I date, rarely compliment me (obvious joke, maybe because I don't deserve it, hardy har). When they do, it definitely makes my day. Ladies, a little less obsession on the compliments you want to receive, and maybe give a few more. It's a two way street.

 

[Dussicar]

Do you REALLY appreciate all we women do to try and look good?

I ask cause guys never seem to notice.

I'm sitting here right now with some of that "at home chemical peel" stuff on my face to reduce the size of my wrinkles and help clear up the acne and it got me thinking - do men know or care that we do this stuff? Sure, we do it partly to make ourselves feel good, but we also do it for you.

We wax - sometimes extremely tender areas.

We shave.

We pluck.

We dye.

We wear uncomfortable shoes that make us want to cry.

We spend money we don't have on products to burn off the top layer of skin, fry off our hair, on pedicures, manicures - and some of those nail care people are REALLY rough, I've gone away crying. Hot wax dips.

And if we get any praise at all, it's a grunted "Hm, nice" and that's it.

Do you guys like it? Or shall we all just give up?

You know, just once it would be nice after I've spent a great deal of time on makeup, and pre-makeup beauty treatments like the peel, to have a guy come up and say, "I'm not saying this to come on to you, but I appreciate the time you took to try and look pretty, and you succeeded."

Well, maybe not those exact words, but something along those lines sure would make me feel good and make me more likely to do it in the future rather then just shower, shampoo, and pretty much otherwise go out "as is."

One thing you have to know about me is that I am the exception to EVERY rule.
I practise what I preach to the best of my abilities. With that said, I'm going to give my opinion without a hint of incincerity.

I think women who go through such hoops are idiots.

I am, to this day, trying to pinpoint the exact time in history when someone told you all that having short, thin eyelashes makes you ugly. Honestly, when the fuck was the last time you got complimented on the thickness of your eyelashes by any guy you have ever met in your life, ladies?

At my place of work, there are a lot of young women. A few years ago, NONE of them wore makeup to work. Natural as tree bark. Not a single fucking one of them looked bad. As a matter of fact, it definately reinforced my position that makeup is a pointless waste of time. I now want to discover a way to wash it all from the planet...Maybe a flood will do.

I digress...One day, one of the young women came to work dolled up. Makeup, nice clothes, to whole nine yards. Now, mind you, the reason for this is because I think she had a date. Fine, whatever. That's just natural in the dating world. I can't have a say on that, as it would be pretentious and intrusive to preach. That is how it goes. The guy, I am sure, went through equal steps as well, I assume.

HOWEVER...Shortly after that, she began to wear makeup on a regular basis. Then one of her friends at work did as well. then another woman started to. and another. And another...You get the picture. Now they ALL do.

FOR CHRIST SAKE, WHY????

After seeing them in the raw, I really began to question the point of makeup in general.

Look. I can see how makeup and other products are indispensable when social functions are involed. And I can and will freely admit that ALL of nature uses beauty, grace, and other implements to attract a mate(pecocks come to mind). Aside from that, I am finding it less and less important these days.

Now I don't mind perfume or cologne. We just don't like bad smells. We cover up. Fine and okay. At this point, some might call me a hypocrite. Fuck you. At least I'm taking steps to increase a better, judement free world. Which is more than I can say for most people who seem happy in their world of shit. ANYBODY can pull the old "when will we get past such pointless social excercises?" speech out of their asses, but how many of those who ask these questions will actually go through the legwork to start a new trend?

That's why I appear to be a crazed revolutionary. I do my god damnedest to implement my personal credo. Apparently, for some reason, it is not considered sane to do so. From what I gather, you are only supposed to pay lip service to this type of thinking. Not actually implement it. I suppose that makes me a tree hugging hippy that is in need of professional help.

Sorry. Just airing out some issues with jackasses who ask more questions than actually look for answers and then call ME up to task when I find solutions they don't like...AHEM.

I digress again...So, we use perfumes and colognes to cover up the smell. Alrighty and okay. What the FUCK do you need body spray for? I saw this stuff, for the first time, in the ninties. I didn't understand the point then and I don't now. Why the hell do women need body spray? There has NEVER been a point in history where it was considered socially required to strip and roll in a field of daisies so that cute boys will like you(unless, of course they are watching, I guess). You have no need for body spray. Now they are showing those HORRENDOUSLY sexist ad's for some spray called AXE. I want to ask the guys, at this time(a brief seguay), a question: How many of you are actually stupid enough to buy that shit?

I really hope that there are very few women who feel they need body spray. I know I have come across some women who use it in the professional field. Bankers, lawyers, etc. God, do they stink.

I haven't gotten to the point of decrying shaving as unnatural, as of yet. But, I notice that I have a weird habit of evolving my perception every few years. I figure it is only a matter of time.

Meh. I'm done for now. I don't think I have anything more to say...Yet.

 

[kis123]

Dussicar...baby....now back away from the coffee pot! Nice and slow baby...now...breathe....deep breaths!

Actually I thought your post was pretty funny!

I actually take your approach to this subject. I am at the age that all these cosmetic companies cater to. They try to convince you that you're old, then show you how their product will make you young and beautiful again. These clowns make me sick! They kill animals with their product testing and they even use fetal matter in their product (collagen comes to mind) and they want me to put that on my face?? Are you kidding me?? The thought simply disgusts me.

Now an alleged "professional", I can't completely dismiss the use of makeup. I will wear it only to professional functions and the occasional first date. Otherwise, you won't catch me wearing the stuff!

I will dress up, wear nice shoes, do my hair really nice; it makes me feel good and my SO appreciates it. When we first started out, I used to wear hairpieces because my hair is pretty thin. He thought it was cute, but when at home he wanted me to be comfortable and told me I didn't have to wear it. I wear my hair braided now; initially it was because I had some health issues earlier this year and the meds damaged my hair. Now it's because I'm in school and I don't have the time or money for hairdressers. The braids are functional and make me look pretty "cute" too. 😉

Oh, and I compliment my man on a regular basis. It's important to make him feel special and wanted too! If I don't compliment him, there's someone out there who wouldn't have a problem doing it.

I'm pretty much a "what you see is what you get" kind of chick. If I have to maintain my looks at high levels in order to please a man, he's probably not the man for me.

 

[ticklishscribe]

I appreciate women and all they do in general. I just wish that some of them (here) appreciated me..

Do you REALLY appreciate all we women do to try and look good?

I ask cause guys never seem to notice.

I'm sitting here right now with some of that "at home chemical peel" stuff on my face to reduce the size of my wrinkles and help clear up the acne and it got me thinking - do men know or care that we do this stuff? Sure, we do it partly to make ourselves feel good, but we also do it for you.

We wax - sometimes extremely tender areas.

We shave.

We pluck.

We dye.

We wear uncomfortable shoes that make us want to cry.

We spend money we don't have on products to burn off the top layer of skin, fry off our hair, on pedicures, manicures - and some of those nail care people are REALLY rough, I've gone away crying. Hot wax dips.

And if we get any praise at all, it's a grunted "Hm, nice" and that's it.

Do you guys like it? Or shall we all just give up?

You know, just once it would be nice after I've spent a great deal of time on makeup, and pre-makeup beauty treatments like the peel, to have a guy come up and say, "I'm not saying this to come on to you, but I appreciate the time you took to try and look pretty, and you succeeded."

Well, maybe not those exact words, but something along those lines sure would make me feel good and make me more likely to do it in the future rather then just shower, shampoo, and pretty much otherwise go out "as is."

 

[storyteller]

I do whatever I feel like doing or think is appropriate. That is, if I feel like taking the time to polish my nails, knowing that they will probably get messed up within the hour, I do. If I feel like wearing makeup or think it's appropriate for where I'm going or who I'm going somewhere with, I do. If I don't feel like it and it doesn't otherwise matter, I don't. If I feel like doing less than I already do but wearing at least a little, I do that. I do my best to take care of what genetics gave me so that I don't have to use a lot of aids to cover up imperfections. I recognize that makeup is an enhancement tool that can be a lot of fun and can help remove attention from dark circles under or puffiness around my eyes resulting from lack of sleep and bad sinuses. That is, makeup is like jewelry or any other accessory, neither of which I wear a lot of either because that's my preference.

Like Isabeau said several pages back, I shave mostly for myself because I don't picture myself as, nor want to be, cave woman.

I have fair skin that tends to burn rather than tan, so I also wear SPF lotions if I'm going to be outdoors, especially in the summer in Texas! However, I don't like the oily feel or look of suntan lotion on my face, so a skin-tone-matching foundation with SPF is preferred.

Sometimes, both men and women notice what I do or don't do with compliments--even at the work place--and that's great. I do the same--even at the work place. If someone thinks I'm sexually harassing them when I casually tell them that they look nice today, the color they're wearing looks good on them, or some such, then they've missed the point made in any good training on that subject about the difference between harassment and a compliment.

Sometimes, I'll go the extra mile, whether that be to polish finger and toe nails, wear stilt-like heels, corset instead of bra, "perfect" makeup, etc., just to please a man who likes all that. Do I do it all the time? No. Would I want to? No. And, any man who expects that from me all the time will be disappointed because that's not me. I don't get all dolled up just to sit around at home. It's not comfortable, and because I live alone, it would be pretty damn stupid because my cats could care less.

 

[ticklehound]

fair enough

Ok, I'd like to respond . . . I believe some guys have already responded, but I dont have time to read the other responses. So, sorry if I repeat some things.


The truth of the matter is, it's a little of both. Yes, there are some things women do aesthetically I really do notice and love. Others I don't.

And yes, some times I really REALLY want to say something complimentary, but I fear it will inevitably come across as open flirting, whether it really is or isn't. Thats a fault on me, because I am overly shy, but I shouldn't fear how others react to my compliments as long as I'm sincere in them.


On the other hand, there are some things that women obsess over that really doesn't appeal to me frankly. Such as over exfoliating, over-caking, over-exposure. The tanning, the plucking, the starving - I don't care about all that. Get outta your way, get over yourself and merely be yourself, and I think you'll find a guy you will really appreciate you.

This bothers me so much, because no matter what, some women feel they do these things because they THINK they know what men want, that we are ALL simple, overly primitive beings.

We just have to be honest with each other. I know I will try to be.


Hound

 

[Cav88]

To be perfectly honest, I think we might notice more if you didn't do it then when you did.

 

[Aragon]

I thnk that women can look awesome when they want to and if they don't want to, none of a man's business.

I like a woman to wear less make up though, to see more of the natural beauty. Less is more in my opinion.

 

[Mr.Tickler]

Do you REALLY appreciate all we women do to try and look good?

I ask cause guys never seem to notice.

I'm sitting here right now with some of that "at home chemical peel" stuff on my face to reduce the size of my wrinkles and help clear up the acne and it got me thinking - do men know or care that we do this stuff? Sure, we do it partly to make ourselves feel good, but we also do it for you.

We wax - sometimes extremely tender areas.

We shave.

We pluck.

We dye.

We wear uncomfortable shoes that make us want to cry.

We spend money we don't have on products to burn off the top layer of skin, fry off our hair, on pedicures, manicures - and some of those nail care people are REALLY rough, I've gone away crying. Hot wax dips.

And if we get any praise at all, it's a grunted "Hm, nice" and that's it.

Do you guys like it? Or shall we all just give up?

You know, just once it would be nice after I've spent a great deal of time on makeup, and pre-makeup beauty treatments like the peel, to have a guy come up and say, "I'm not saying this to come on to you, but I appreciate the time you took to try and look pretty, and you succeeded."

Well, maybe not those exact words, but something along those lines sure would make me feel good and make me more likely to do it in the future rather then just shower, shampoo, and pretty much otherwise go out "as is."

I admire your honesty and candid remarks and descriptions on your feelings.That's impressive.To answer your question,I pondererd it a few times, but not too deeply.It seems a two-way deal,though.

 

[Headsnap]

I think it's a case of taking it for granted, and in no way is it a one-way street. For instance, while you're complaining that nobody pays you any compliments when you spend hours on tarting yourself up, when was the last time you told your man he looked good in a particular shirt, or reassured him that he was a good-looking bloke? You don't do it, do you? No. So why expect it from us?

Either that or it's because your man finds you sexier in your civvies and slacks than he does when you're all tarted up, but is afraid to tell you for fear of losing an eye.

 

[simulated]

You know, just once it would be nice after I've spent a great deal of time on makeup, and pre-makeup beauty treatments like the peel, to have a guy come up and say, "I'm not saying this to come on to you, but I appreciate the time you took to try and look pretty, and you succeeded."

Well, maybe not those exact words, but something along those lines sure would make me feel good and make me more likely to do it in the future rather then just shower, shampoo, and pretty much otherwise go out "as is."

You know, I'm fairly sure that no guy with any semblence of social skills is ever going to say that to you cold. Never going to happen. Basically, its like having some strange guy come up to you and say hey, normally you're really ugly, but you've really been trying to not be ugly and I appreciate the effort.

Seriously.

I'm always kind of turned off by women who are constantly trying to be something that they aren't. You know the type, the people who won't leave the house without two gallons of makeup on. It's a very unattractive thing, people who aren't comfortable with who they are. Because in the end, it doesn't matter if you're fat, skinny, tall, short, pretty, ugly, etc. Its all about being accepting of who you are and telling the world hey! This is who I am, and if you don't like it I don't have to waste my time with you.

 

[devilsadvocate]

Ok this thread interests me because i have not just 10 minutes ago, had a row with my girlfriend over the exact same topic. i told her, her hair looked nice. she said she hadn't done anything special to it. i said it didn't matter, it looked nice. (where did i go wrong?) then we were off to the races. she kicked off telling me i never appreciated anything she did to make herself look good. Honestly in my opinion, we notice you look good a lot, we tell you you look good. Guys aren't the best at using superlatives in a romantic kind of way. the difference seems to be how you want to react to the comment we make, so in theory we're back onto the topic i saw a few days ago of can you take a compliment

 

[Amber10]

humm for me i guess i dont realy notice to much cuz if i see a girl when i go out on weekends all the girl that have done as much as they can have all the guys around them all night and when i go out i like to have fun and if i hook up with a girl then grate but i dont know if girls think when i say do u wonna come back to my house they all think that means sex cuz every time i get a yes we just watch movies and have fun cuz sex is overrated in my eye's.

 

[FeatheryOctopi]

I very much appriciate it. And in todays day and age all the stuff a woman must go through, to be socially accepted. "Wearing shoes that make you want to cry." And in this way I think women have grown stronger than men. Maybe not all with physical strength, but endurence. Keep up the eye poppin girls. Not that I excpect a woman to go through that for me, but it means alot if they would.

 

[ticklingfeet4fu]

You know what, I see Sadira every morning and I tell her how beautiful she is even when she is just getting up in the morning. I see Sadira when we go to bed at night and I tell how beautiful she is. There comes a point and time when a guy is around a wonderful lady that she doesn't need to impress him. He LOVES her. He will stick by her through thick and thin. In my case, Sadira is a beautiful, wonderful human being. She doesn't have to wear makeup to look good to me. She doesn't need to get a pedicure for me. She doesn't have to do anything she doesn't want to do. I will still love her. I didn't fall in love with Sadira for what she has in regards to her outer beauty. It is her inner beauty that captured me. So if you want to spend money on hot wax and things like that. Okay. That is fine. But let me tell you, a guy loves what a woman offers in regards to her inner beauty. Plus I will bet you that guys like ViperGTS and myself love what are respective ladies bring to the table in regards to their brains. Sadira is beautiful on the outside and inside but is also really smart. That is why she is loved by me.