Anyone ever thought about becoming a pedicurist, specifically for tickling?

[RegisteredUser]

I never even said I was thinking about getting into that profession, I asked if anyone else here ever thought about it and yes I only meant hypothetically. You know, like when a pretty girl is sqirming and using superhuman willpower not to start laughing hysterically a foot tickler like me will think "oh, to be the one giving her that pedicure". That's all.

But I have to say something: most of my posts here I think have been pretty lighthearted. Well I need to get something off my chest that has been bothering me since the first few responses to this thread, then I come home and find more of the same. I don't know if this is unique to tickling enthusiasts or fetishists in general or what, but some members here seem quick to shake a holier-than-thou finger at others who don't think as they do. It's just the internet, kids. If a guy seriously was thinking about becoming a pedicurist so he could use a scraper or whatever its called on tender female soles and watch them fight not to laugh, what's it to you?

Maybe the most ticklish females stay away from getting pedicures in public, but I think you'd find that the women who could have the bottoms of their feet scraped with an instrument and not have it tickle would be few and far between. So in the "ticklish pedicure" vids on youtube, the pedicurist doesn't even have to try to tickle the customer. It just goes with a job that includes scraping the bottoms of women's feet with an instrument.

Say there's 2 women getting pedicures, one is getting a pedicure from a person who doesn't find it any more erotic than they would driving a bus or being the cook in a restaurant. The other is (secretly) having the time of his life because he has a foot tickling fetish and that's the reason he got into that line of work, to get to scrape the soles of women's feet with instruments and enjoy the reactions. But outwardly he's just as professional as the first pedicurist. Tell me, is either customer worse off for it? It seems pretty harmless to me.

But that's not even the point. The point is that there are folks on here who are very judgmental about silly shit. Of course this morning, when I read about this 18 yr old piece of shit who has been torturing and mutilating people's pet cats for fun, and above everything else seeing him smiling in what appears to be his mug shot after being caught, I wanted to torture and mutilate him. So maybe someone using deception to satisfy their fetish pushes the same hot button with some folks here as people mistreating animals pushes with me. And yes, a lot of folks would tell me that I'm being very silly and that they're "just cats". So I don't know. To me as long as the pedicurist appears outwardly to be completely professional, it seems pretty harmless to me, but maybe because that's not one of my hot buttons.

 

[taptoematt]

I find the concept of taking a particular vanilla profession solely for the purpose of getting strangers to unknowingly gratify you sexually to be particularly subversive and repugnant.

I agree with this statement also, in fact it was a big concern before I became a pedicurist. With young girls throwing their feet at me all day long, I wasn't sure if I could seperate my fetish from my profession.
At first the lines were freaky and blurred, but eventually I was able to find my "on and off switch "
There were times when I worked on girls who were asked to do tickle vids and were appauled at the thought of it, at which time I just smiled and kept quiet.
I always try to keep my fetish and my job worlds apart, although there have been some ticklish pedis I've given on purpose to some female friends, just to be cute.

 

[Phineas]

But I have to say something: most of my posts here I think have been pretty lighthearted. Well I need to get something off my chest that has been bothering me since the first few responses to this thread, then I come home and find more of the same. I don't know if this is unique to tickling enthusiasts or fetishists in general or what, but some members here seem quick to shake a holier-than-thou finger at others who don't think as they do. It's just the internet, kids. If a guy seriously was thinking about becoming a pedicurist so he could use a scraper or whatever its called on tender female soles and watch them fight not to laugh, what's it to you?

Oh, I don't know... maybe it's because after being in this community for as long as I have, and having seen enough people discuss such things seriously, that I feel it's kind of necessary to throw out the occasional "don't try this at home, kids!" lest someone who doesn't realize it's not okay to do such things take it in a different context... and become mainstream media's next "creepy foot guy" perving his customers at the local Foot Locker.

What is it to me? It's the fact that ours is a normally non-sexualized activity that we've sexualized, and there are plenty of those among us who think nothing of misleading people into thinking it's "harmless" purely to get their own rocks off.

And so, my answer to your question is, "no - I've never thought about it because it would be wrong." Although if not slavishly agreeing with the idea purely for titillative purposes makes me "holier than thou"... fine by me.

And while we're on the subject, I have a problem with people who throw around phrases like "tender female soles". What is she, a cut of beef?

If you want to make a living tickling people, start a video company. That way everyone's on the same level and you don't have to sneak around.

 

[solescratcher99]

And while we're on the subject, I have a problem with people who throw around phrases like "tender female soles". What is she, a cut of beef?

lol. I think the phrase is meant to say something about the softness of a woman's feet and not anything sexist.

Also, I agree with user that some people on the forums can be overly sensitive. Most of the time its just people projecting their own sexual anxieties onto someone else though. Hell, usually when I see people trying to take the "moral" high ground over someone else, it looks a lot more like verbal abuse than a genuine attempt to say something about ethics.

What is it to me? It's the fact that ours is a normally non-sexualized activity that we've sexualized, and there are plenty of those among us who think nothing of misleading people into thinking it's "harmless" purely to get their own rocks off.

So, its not harmless to get your rocks off? lol. You know, you can wag a finger at dishonesty without making sex look bad as well.

 

[chicago]

Registered, you have 60 posts. And while that may seem like a lot, and while I've seen your screen name around, I can't say I remember a thread or post you've made prior to this one. I can't say if you're male or female. If I took a look at your profile, maybe I'd find out but I haven't.

And when you hear about guys on the news attacking women to tickle their feet, or breaking into houses to do it, it gives the entire community a bad name.

So yeah, when someone you're not familiar with makes a post like that (even hypothetically) , it's going to hit some buttons and people are going to respond trying to discourage the behavior. Not just for you, but for other people reading this thread thinking "Hey, that might be an awesome idea."

It's fine to think about. The idea of a professional situation turning into an erotic situation or the idea of someone trying to keep their composure in a public place are fun things to think about, but for a person to actually go through with it, at times isn't right.

That's just the way I feel and I think a few others feel the same. Your post makes me believe you're not a fucktard that would actually go through with the idea, so that's reassuring. I just hope no weirdos reading this thread, or in general actually, decide to do something like this.

 

[RegisteredUser]

Registered, you have 60 posts. And while that may seem like a lot, and while I've seen your screen name around, I can't say I remember a thread or post you've made prior to this one. I can't say if you're male or female. If I took a look at your profile, maybe I'd find out but I haven't.

And when you hear about guys on the news attacking women to tickle their feet, or breaking into houses to do it, it gives the entire community a bad name.

So yeah, when someone you're not familiar with makes a post like that (even hypothetically) , it's going to hit some buttons and people are going to respond trying to discourage the behavior. Not just for you, but for other people reading this thread thinking "Hey, that might be an awesome idea."

It's fine to think about. The idea of a professional situation turning into an erotic situation or the idea of someone trying to keep their composure in a public place are fun things to think about, but for a person to actually go through with it, at times isn't right.

That's just the way I feel and I think a few others feel the same. Your post makes me believe you're not a fucktard that would actually go through with the idea, so that's reassuring. I just hope no weirdos reading this thread, or in general actually, decide to do something like this.

Okay well if someone did have this idea and actually act on it, as long as outwardly he appeared to be completely professional, I still find it to be pretty harmless (as long as the customers have no idea he's "into" it). But I realize that's not the point here; you all have your hot buttons as I have mine. Maybe we can just agree to disagree and focus on ticklish buttons, er spots.

 

[chicago]

Well yeah, I mean no one would ever be able to know, but there is still something that strikes me as wrong about the idea. Meh.

 

[Phineas]

So, its not harmless to get your rocks off? lol. You know, you can wag a finger at dishonesty without making sex look bad as well.

I shouldn't have to explain this, but no - it's not harmless if the person you're getting your rocks off to hasn't consented to you using them as your personal spanktoy.

Okay well if someone did have this idea and actually act on it, as long as outwardly he appeared to be completely professional, I still find it to be pretty harmless (as long as the customers have no idea he's "into" it). But I realize that's not the point here; you all have your hot buttons as I have mine. Maybe we can just agree to disagree and focus on ticklish buttons, er spots.

No, actually that is the point, here. As I said before, I find the idea of tricking people into sexually gratifying you morally repugnant. You see, we have this concept called "consent" - and if the other person has not given consent then you are, in fact, violating them.

Why is whether or not the other person knows what you're up to a qualifier? Is it because you know if you say to a total stranger "Excuse me, can I give you a pedicure? I have a foot fetish and I would really enjoy it," she'd pepper spray you and call the cops?

 

[Redmage]

Yeah, going into a profession so you can get your hands on women without their knowledge or consent is pretty skanky.

Think of it this way: suppose a gynecologist took this approach to his profession. Would you want him taking care of your mother, sister, wife, or girlfriend?

"Sleazy" doesn't begin to cover it.

 

[RegisteredUser]

Okay well I've stated my opinion on this so I'm done. You all have fun with this thread LOL

 

[solescratcher99]

I shouldn't have to explain this, but no - it's not harmless if the person you're getting your rocks off to hasn't consented to you using them as your personal spanktoy.

Right... I'm just going to say this one last thing because I don't like getting involved in conversations which are so blantatly non-constructive. I think the condemning attitude you have is actually reinforcing people to behave this way. You see, the problem I have with this whole thing is you see it as being "morally repugnant", whereas I have to wonder about the psychology behind someone who'd actually want to do this. And, while I assume its not something someone would actually do in a healthy state of mind, it seems like you're just interested in judging and condemning rather than understanding the behavior. That in itself seems pretty "morally repugnant" if you ask me.

No, actually that is the point, here. As I said before, I find the idea of tricking people into sexually gratifying you morally repugnant. You see, we have this concept called "consent" - and if the other person has not given consent then you are, in fact, violating them.

But, why do you think someone would be genuinely interested in doing this? Lofty notions of right and wrong aside, I'd say the 'causes' of this behavior is being extremely isolated, sexually deprived, confusing a want with a need, and the desire for secrecy comes from expecting to be judged for their sexuality (which you're actually fueling). Like I said earlier, while this type of 'condemning' you're doing is an attempt to deter behavior, it actually reinforces it. I mean, no one wants to be judged for having thoughts or fantasies and if people are made to feel as though they are, then we're simply repressing the desire for the time being and waiting around for it to come out in other unhealthy ways. Its when people collectively, hell even personally, speak the way you do that influences others to behave in ways you consider "repugnant".

I remember volunteering in an abuse shelter once and one of the things they emphasized is to try to be non-judgmental towards the offenders and leave ethics out of it as much as we can. It wasn't until a few months afterwords that I realized the reasoning behind this. If you judge someone for let's say hitting his girlfriend, you're either going to internalize his anger and he'll end up either committing suicide or get even more frustrated (which increases the likelihood of another beating). So, anyway. lol. My little soap box. This 'ethical' attitude is counter-productive and actually not that ethical in the first place. But, I'm not going into that because this post is long winded enough.

 

[Skipadeedoodah]

Seriously, we're talking about fantasy here people. I understand the line was blurry in the beginning, and many people weren't sure what the OP was suggesting or not suggesting he or someone else do. I also understand why we feel the need to protect ourselves from being judged based on the actions of fucking retarded few. But RUser is just talking fantasy - for fun. Now that that is known, why are we still jumping on him and criticizing him? People talk about non-con fantasy all the time. This is a step down from that even, and he's still getting pummeled with insults. Let's dial it back a little folks.

 

[Em Es]

There must be lers that have taken such jobs

There must be ticklers out there - especially male ticklers - that have taken the kinds of jobs that lend themselves to tickling people. There would be some level of fun in purposely tickling a woman and getting away with it because she thinks it wasn't on purpose, I suppose. Not nearly as good as an intimate tickling encounter, but better than nothing.

Of all such encounters, physicians by far have unintentionallly tickled me most. That abdomen exam is just too ticklish.

Tailors, adjusting pants hems, tickle my feet almost every time.

Shoe salesmen have gotten me once or twice.

I've had several massages that included couple light tickles on the legs.

My one pedicure did not tickle, even when she scrubbed my feet with the brush.

 

[Skipadeedoodah]

Yeah, going into a profession so you can get your hands on women without their knowledge or consent is pretty skanky.

Think of it this way: suppose a gynecologist took this approach to his profession. Would you want him taking care of your mother, sister, wife, or girlfriend?

"Sleazy" doesn't begin to cover it.

I disagree. It all depends on the behavior of the person. If I went to a hairdresser with a hair fetish, a proctologist with an asshole fetish, or a gastroenterologist with an esophagus fetish, and any of them was secretly getting a thrill by doing his job, as long as he didn't skeeve me out with his speech or behavior, I couldn't care less.

Maybe my ENT has a sneeze fetish 😱 What if my surgeon has a cutting fetish?! Maybe my waiter is a slave and gets off bringing me dinner. Could the lady at the department store fitting me for a bra be a lesbian with a breast fetish?

The possibilities are endless. As long as these people behave professionally and do their job well, I don't give a shit what revs their engine.

 

[♡AimLEE♡]

I disagree. It all depends on the behavior of the person. If I went to a hairdresser with a hair fetish, a proctologist with an asshole fetish, or a gastroenterologist with an esophagus fetish, and any of them was secretly getting a thrill by doing his job, as long as he didn't skeeve me out with his speech or behavior, I couldn't care less.

Maybe my ENT has a sneeze fetish 😱 What if my surgeon has a cutting fetish?! Maybe my waiter is a slave and gets off bringing me dinner. Could the lady at the department store fitting me for a bra be a lesbian with a breast fetish?

The possibilities are endless. As long as these people behave professionally and do their job well, I don't give a shit what revs their engine.

Doesn't get much better than that! hahaha

 

[taptoematt]

I disagree. It all depends on the behavior of the person. If I went to a hairdresser with a hair fetish, a proctologist with an asshole fetish, or a gastroenterologist with an esophagus fetish, and any of them was secretly getting a thrill by doing his job, as long as he didn't skeeve me out with his speech or behavior, I couldn't care less.

Maybe my ENT has a sneeze fetish 😱 What if my surgeon has a cutting fetish?! Maybe my waiter is a slave and gets off bringing me dinner. Could the lady at the department store fitting me for a bra be a lesbian with a breast fetish?

The possibilities are endless. As long as these people behave professionally and do their job well, I don't give a shit what revs their engine.

Thankyou Skip, a very tactful way of explaining it.

 

[rhiannon]

I think the main problem here is that every so often a thread shows up where people are asking for tricks and ways to tickle total strangers and actually mean it. I even remember a thread where a guy asked a girl for her shoe size and afterwards looked like he was going to touch her foot, and got interrogated by the police afterwards.

So - naturally! - when a thread with contents like this appears and it's not totally clear if it's a fantasy or not, red alert goes off for some people, including me. 🙂

Then, the tickling fetish isn't very well known and widely spread, and usually if it shows up in the media it is because some weirdo though he actually had to force his fetish on strangers, be it someone breaking into houses and tickling sleeping women's feet or a lawyer crawling around underneath desks tickling his secretaries.

And we all don't want to read stuff like that so people don't think we are weirder than we actually are! 🙂

 

[Phineas]

Right... I'm just going to say this one last thing because I don't like getting involved in conversations which are so blantatly non-constructive. I think the condemning attitude you have is actually reinforcing people to behave this way.

That's because you're confusing the condemnation of the ways people go about satisfying their fetish with condemnation of the fetish itself.

Look, I'm here because I have a tickle fetish, same as you and everyone else. I also have a foot fetish. However, I am perfectly aware of the right way of expressing those fetishes (in a mutually satisfying, consensual way with a play partner/significant other) and the wrong way (tricking and/or forcing a stranger who doesn't know you from Adam).

I'm going to diverge a bit, here and mention that yes, for a while I was pretty ashamed of my own fetishes when I first hit my teens. My mother was a bitch and made nasty comments about stuff she found in my room, and my first girlfriend was pretty judgemental (although later relented). The thing is, I was always up-front and honest to my girlfriends about it. It was awkward, sure, and sometimes I got laughed at... but it got easier each time. Nowadays I state it right up front and anyone who balks doesn't get a second date. I am who I am, and I've accepted it.

But yes, it is a bit of a chicken-and-egg scenario when foot people hide because people are creeped out about them, but the reason people are creeped out about them is because they hide. Or harass people on YouTube. Or whatever else.

To be clear, there nothing wrong with having a foot fetish, or a tickle fetish, or just about any other kind of fetish as long as it doesn't hurt anyone (or if it does, if done safely. heh) - but yes, I am going to say "dude, not cool" if I see someone being a creeper. It hurts them, by driving people away from them, and it hurts the rest of us, by giving us a bad name when the media and/or law enforcements wind of it.

I would prefer that such people be educated into finding a healthy outlet for their fetish - one that involves them being happy, not hiding in closets and frightening the children. Unless that's their thing, I guess.

As long as these people behave professionally and do their job well, I don't give a shit what revs their engine.

Really? Awesome. Would you mind, then, sending me a photo of yourself so I can masturbate over it and E-mail you a story about the results? That'd rev my engine, for sure.

Or is it that it's only okay if you don't know about it? In that case, would you be fine if I grabbed one of your pictures from the Members Gallery, then posted a graphic fantasy about you over in the Stories section, and didn't tell you about it? You'd be cool with stumbling over something like that by accident two months later?

How many of the women that've gotten "accidentally" tickled would be piqued to know that their experiences were plastered all over a fetish website for people to jerk off over while reading?

Anyway, the problem with this specific instance is that tickling is not part of a pedicure. Like Matt said above... sure, sometimes it's unavoidable but I'm sure if you made a habit of tickling your clients you'd eventually lose them all - or I think you'd eventually get frustrated at never being able to take it to the next level.

I think the main problem here is that every so often a thread shows up where people are asking for tricks and ways to tickle total strangers and actually mean it.

Yes. Very much so. There's that, and the guys that hide cameras in libraries, post fake messages on massage sites because they get off on hearing people talk about tickling, or any number of a hundred other dishonest things. It makes me... cranky.

Okay, okay, I'm sorry I hijacked a silly fluff thread with Serious Business. I take it all back. Here's what I meant to say;

o yea dude I think about it all the time I think I'd just tickle those delicious hypersensitive soft pink female feet all day long I mean cmon they're there just begging to be tickled why else would they get a pedicure lol

~P

 

[Redmage]

I disagree. It all depends on the behavior of the person. If I went to a hairdresser with a hair fetish, a proctologist with an asshole fetish, or a gastroenterologist with an esophagus fetish, and any of them was secretly getting a thrill by doing his job, as long as he didn't skeeve me out with his speech or behavior, I couldn't care less.

Fair enough. So, let's say your OB/GYN went into the business because he likes fondling women. But he doesn't let on in any way that you notice. He just sets up a hidden camera in his exam room so he can tape you undressing, and record the exam for his private enjoyment later.

At what point does this cross the line? When he turns on the camera? When he shares the film on the gynecology fetish forum? Or is everything OK as long as you don't know about it and you aren't made to feel uncomfortable?

I realize that we're talking about fantasy here. And technically anything goes as long as it's not real. But I'm curious as to where you draw the line if it is real. It sounds as though as long as you don't notice you don't care, but I'm a little surprised by that.

 

[taptoematt]

Fair enough. So, let's say your OB/GYN went into the business because he likes fondling women. But he doesn't let on in any way that you notice. He just sets up a hidden camera in his exam room so he can tape you undressing, and record the exam for his private enjoyment later.

At what point does this cross the line? When he turns on the camera? When he shares the film on the gynecology fetish forum? Or is everything OK as long as you don't know about it and you aren't made to feel uncomfortable?

I realize that we're talking about fantasy here. And technically anything goes as long as it's not real. But I'm curious as to where you draw the line if it is real. It sounds as though as long as you don't notice you don't care, but I'm a little surprised by that.

Why should she care ? If I'm professional and not doing anything illegal, how and why can she police whats going on in my head?

 

[rhiannon]

The way some people here talk makes me think something wrong is only wrong when it's noticed....

Let's just imagine someone puts sleeping pills in a girl's drink at a party. She falls asleep, the guy has sex with her while she's sleeping. She wakes up, never knows it happened, just thinks she had a real bad blackout from drinking.

So it's not wrong what he did because she never knew about it?

 

[Wolf]

Of course, we're overlooking the basic dishonesty of pretending to be providing a service someone else is paying for, when in actuality, your focus is getting yourself off, and doing so in a manner that protects you from the scrutiny that a prospective sexual (or play) partner might put you through. I'm surprised no one has dropped the pedophile/elementary school teacher bomb, yet...

It's not illegal, but it's creepy and cowardly. Yes, I'm being judgmental. Feel free to judge me for being insufficiently non-judgmental.

Most people, I'd hazard a guess, aren't okay with that kind of attention. It would creep them out to find out after the fact. Are they just uptight?

If you have no problem with people using you to get off on, without your knowledge or consent, go visit a Sadomasochistic Dentist who waters down his Novocaine....or visit one of those OB/GYNs who liked to brand their patients with their college's initials...harmless, right? (Painless, anyway...they used anaesthetic, and who's gonna know?) that's an extreme case, but it's really following the same line of 'harmless' logic.

If people spent half as much time on making themselves more attractive (I don't mean physically, so save the squeals of indignation) or receptive to prospective partners and relationships as they did coming up with these oh-so-clever ideas about how to get their rocks off and "get away with it", they wouldn't need these oh-so-clever ideas...sheesh.

 

[solescratcher99]

Why should she care ? If I'm professional and not doing anything illegal, how and why can she police whats going on in my head?

After listening to many of these crazy debates in philosophy classes, I can say with absolute certainty this is exactly where the conversation is going. This is only a hypothetical too! HA!

The only thing I can say is a lot of people have their own anxieties about sexual issues, especially when they know someone is thinking something sexual about them.

The problem is they never admit its their personal problem because they simply can't accept the fact that other people have their own minds and can think how they want about them in any given context. So, they project their own issues onto others under the guise of "ethics" in order to implant the same shame and guilt they feel about sex. Parents do this to their kids all the time with sexual issues and that stranger danger bullshit... AND by using extreme arguments and "fear tactics" to drive home their message.

Watch, someone might read this and say "yeah, well you go to the Hersey factory where some nutjob with a Hersey fetish secretly gets off to you while you're pulling a Costanza on that sundae!"

Anyway, the argument was that as long as they're doing their job and not being awkward it doesn't matter if they "get off" to themselves privately. I agree. People get off on a lot of things, so let them have their fantasies.

 

[chicago]

After listening to many of these crazy debates in philosophy classes, I can say with absolute certainty this is exactly where the conversation is going. This is only a hypothetical too! HA!

The only thing I can say is a lot of people have their own anxieties about sexual issues, especially when they know someone is thinking something sexual about them.

The problem is they never admit its their personal problem because they simply can't accept the fact that other people have their own minds and can think how they want about them in any given context. So, they project their own issues onto others under the guise of "ethics" in order to implant the same shame and guilt they feel about sex. Parents do this to their kids all the time with sexual issues and that stranger danger bullshit... AND by using extreme arguments and "fear tactics" to drive home their message.

Watch, someone might read this and say "yeah, well you go to the Hersey factory where some nutjob with a Hersey fetish secretly gets off to you while you're pulling a Costanza on that sundae!"

Anyway, the argument was that as long as they're doing their job and not being awkward it doesn't matter if they "get off" to themselves privately. I agree. People get off on a lot of things, so let them have their fantasies.

I see what you're saying, but it's one thing if let's say a hot chick goes to a mechanic and that mechanic later rubs one out thinking about her ass. It's entirely another if someone who already has a foot fetish decides to go into the field of giving pedicures for no other reason than to be able to handle womens feet. Taking it to that extent leads me to believe the person might not be mentally fit to be doing much besides sitting in a padded cell drooling on themselves. And if they're going to go that extent, you really don't think they're going to take advantage of their situation, thinking they can get away with it? I mean, shit, if the person is determined enough to get a license to do nails instead of actually working to find a suitable sexual partner, you have to wonder what the fuck is wrong with that person.

 

[starburstz91]

I have no doubt that a lot of people have had that question cross their mind a couple of times ( Well, the ones who want to be a pedicurist).

I would never go get my feet done, or whatever, but I'm just saying that there probably is no doubt that most want it for the little tickles that are sometimes brought.