Batman v. Superman

[General Zod]

I'd have to vote for the son of Jor-El on this one Think about it Kal-El spots Batman from 10 miles out with x-ray vision He then uses heat vision to melt him As Stan Lee says "Nuff Said"
General Zod

I have a beautiful body It's in my trunk

 

[Darkknight]

Ya know, I was waiting for General Zod to chime in on this one!
I knew you're were still around dude!

How'd that line go again? "Kneel before me son of Jor-El!"

That heat vision does bite at long range though. And flying buildings are hard to dodge but again... you gotta know where the dark knight is before you can tag him (yeah..yeah.. x-ray vision). 😛

DK

 

[BellaRisa]

Oh, who would win a *fight*....

All I read was 'Batman vs. Superman', I answered based on who I'd rather hang out with, not who would win a fight. Um, wouldn't Superman stomp Batman into yogurt? I prefer Bruce Wayne overall-but it still boils down to "Nearly Invincible Nerdy Guy of Steel vs Cool But Still Human Dude with Gadgets'. Supe's a square but a Realllly strong square.

"ROFL! Yer man's way more charmin', even if it's a sly, one-liner kinda charm."


He's charmin' alright, how da hell else did a New York girl like me end up this happy livin' in Mid-west Suburbia? (eg)

And you DO bring Wolvie to mind, sweetie. What I can't figure out though, since meetin' ya-is it all about the love, or the Hokey-Pokey? You say one thing, Libby says another...

B

 

[dvnc]

So, IF we suspend disbelief, and instead give faith to the Man of Steel, that he'll forego his nice-boy deal, AND we assume that he can find Batman in a large metropolitan city, AND we believe that there's a reason he'd drop a building on him, or cook his butt wit' the heat vision, then maybe...

I still think that, given the natures presented for the two characters, Superman's too nice. It's possible for a Kryptonian, on Earth, to whup a wiley detective in stretch-pants. It ain't PROBABLE that Kal-El is gonna get mean enough. Gettin' killed didn't seem t'fix that.

His nature ain't mean enough. Wayne's nature IS.

Truth is, a comic showin' that would piss off more Superman fans than it would impress. He'd have to become another kind of man, one that he ain't, and that just ain't gonna happen. DC likes the income too much.

 

[dvnc]

Re: Oh, who would win a *fight*....

He's charmin' alright, how da hell else did a New York girl like me end up this happy livin' in Mid-west Suburbia? (eg)

And you DO bring Wolvie to mind, sweetie. What I can't figure out though, since meetin' ya-is it all about the love, or the Hokey-Pokey? You say one thing, Libby says another...

B

Hell, I ain't arguin' wit' that little doll. If she's all about that Hokey-Pokey, that's likely where the love is, anyway. The kid's all charm, and curls. 🙂

You can take a girl outta New York, but, well, yer still a misplaced big-town girl. Lucky fer you there's kink aplenty in Columbus!

 

[BigJim]

Gotta be Supes all the way. A chunk of Kryptonite isn't a standard bit of Batman's kit, so in a grudge match you probably could'nt count that. Given then Superman would be immune to any weapon the Bat has, it's gotta be a thumbs up for the son of Kal-El.

 

[dvnc]

Last I read, Bats had a chunk o' said planet...

 

[BigJim]

Last I read, Bats had a chunk o' said planet...

He might have done, but look at this as a computer game. Both characters would only start out with their typical equipage. For Batman that would'nt include a chunk of kryptonite. He might have got hold of a piece, but that is only a temporary story arc.


(I cannot believe I'm trying to be logical over a comic book story!)LOL

 

[General Zod]

I can't believe your trying to be logical over a comic story either BigJim Congratulations on your red level status
General Zod😛

 

[BigJim]

I can't believe your trying to be logical over a comic story either BigJim Congratulations on your red level status
General Zod😛

Thanks General, much appreciated. 😀

 

[Admiral Trouser]

Hmmm....I always figured that coolest charecter always came up tops...and that would be Batman for sure in this case...he'd just do something cool, like trap superman in concrete. Or something. lol.

Theres my two cents (or thretney pence)

And, linking to a similar thread, He-man would kick both their arses with panache, ok?

 

[BigJim]

Hmmm....I always figured that coolest charecter always came up tops...and that would be Batman for sure in this case...he'd just do something cool, like trap superman in concrete. Or something. lol.

Theres my two cents (or thretney pence)

And, linking to a similar thread, He-man would kick both their arses with panache, ok?

The son of Jor-El has smashed tougher things than lumps of concrete before.BWAHAHAHAHAAAAAA

 

[Admiral Trouser]

LOL.

Look, batman is cool, ok? Superman is just such a goodie-two-shoes, he deserves a good arse kicking. Feed him kryptonite, I say.......

 

[BigJim]

LOL.

Look, batman is cool, ok? Superman is just such a goodie-two-shoes, he deserves a good arse kicking. Feed him kryptonite, I say.......

Well there is that of course.........😕

 

[He-Man]

Gotta be Supes all the way. A chunk of Kryptonite isn't a standard bit of Batman's kit

Really? Seems like he usually has it ready when Supes is in town...and since Oracle ( Barbara Gordan )sometimes knows stuff even before Bats does, Batman would be ready with Krytonite, just in case Superman got in his way.

Maybe it only seems like it's not part of his standard equipment because he doesn't have to use it that often..I mean..Supes isn't around Gotham every night. lol

Batman , after his back-breaking encounter with Bane, swore to never be unprepared again. You can bet the dark night has a small bit of the green rock hidden somewhere within reach, if not in his belt.


..ya know..I think Supes would get an even worse butt-kicking if he was pitted against the new Batgirl. After all, she's at least as good...if not better....at fighting as Batman. lol

 

[BigJim]

Hmmmmmmm...........

Before anyone at DC got the idea to put Supes and the Bat in the same story, kryptonits was never standard issue bat-kit. I think it's probably only in there now because it makes the story more interesting.

If you took the two characters as they were before they "contaminated" each others story lines, Batman would never have had krpytonite at all.

Post Merger: The Bat

Pre Merger: The son of Jor-El

 

[TklrJoe]

This poll is a travesty!

 

[BigJim]

This poll is a travesty!

Interesting point Joe, but instead of just dropping it and then leaving; why don't you tell us why you think it's a travesty?

 

[TklrJoe]

I thought my position was evident in my previous posts in this thread!

I'm not here to be a Batman-basher. I love Batman. I do.

But... people... Batman is human. Superman is superhuman!

Superman is infinitely stronger, faster, and more powerful.

Of course if you bring in that Batman has somehow obtained a piece of the stuff that saps Superman of all his strength, then yeah, of course Batman could defeat Superman (and so could anyone).

But, all things being equal, it's no contest...

No one beats Superman.


No one.

 

[BigJim]

I thought my position was evident in my previous posts in this thread!

I'm not here to be a Batman-basher. I love Batman. I do.

But... people... Batman is human. Superman is superhuman!

Superman is infinitely stronger, faster, and more powerful.

Of course if you bring in that Batman has somehow obtained a piece of the stuff that saps Superman of all his strength, then yeah, of course Batman could defeat Superman (and so could anyone).

But, all things being equal, it's no contest...

No one beats Superman.


No one.

Dude, you hit the nail on the head. With a chunk of said planet, I COULD BEAT SUPERMAN! It's the "all things being equal" bit, that every other poster here seems to have completely forgotten. On top of which, Batman must be a right bastard if he's willing to use the rock on Supes. I mean Supes is a darn nice guy, right? RIGHT??!?!?

 

[BigJim]

I cannot believe that they are even 50-50, let alone Batman winning the damn poll! There is no chance in the remotest corner of hell, that Batman would win a fight against Superman. Sure, Batman might be cooler, but that ain't the point of the thread. As someone else said, Supes is a nerdy dork who's indestructable and IS more than capable of circumnavigating a lump of Krptonite. Batman is a super-cool hero, who ain't afraid to use the Dark Side but is a fragile as any one of us.

Don't vote on who is coolest, vote for who's the hardest nut. There is no chance in hell of that being anyone other than Superman. (Or General Zod possibly?😀)

 

[dvnc]

LOL! Aw, Jim, if you DISCOUNT that DC already SAYS that Bats has a bit of Kryptonite, and change the story around, then sure, the Man o' Steel's all powerful here.

If you're stickin' to the comic, then it's already been proven. Batman has a chunk o' that silly planet, hence...

😉

 

[BigJim]

LOL! Aw, Jim, if you DISCOUNT that DC already SAYS that Bats has a bit of Kryptonite, and change the story around, then sure, the Man o' Steel's all powerful here.

If you're stickin' to the comic, then it's already been proven. Batman has a chunk o' that silly planet, hence...

😉

True Dave, but think of this. To get a small chunk of kryptonite to affect Supes (I'm assuming it's a chunk about the size of a fist?) Batman would have to get close enough for it to do the damage. Given that Superman has x-ray vision, super hearing and more smarts than a lot of comic book fans would give him credit for; it's still gonna be difficult for Batman to lay it on him.

Supes is by far and away the physically superior, so he'd win without the kryptonite and there's still only a small chance that The Bat could win even with it.

***Big Jim buggers back off into obscurity, still not quite able to believe that he's trying to be logical about a comic book.***

 

[TklrJoe]

Yeah, even if Batman has Kryptonite, Superman has super-vision and would see it comin', and stay away from it... if Batman had the Kryptonite in a lead box or something, Superman would figure it out!

Despite their different approaches, Batman and Superman both fight for what's right, so I don't know why they would fight each other anyway, other than to sell comic books and movie tickets!

Incidentally, the box office is one place where Batman definitely wins: according to Entertainment Weekly magazine, the four Christopher Reeve Superman movies brought in $318 million, while the four Batman movies (Michael Keaton-Val Kilmer-George Clooney) hauled in $705 million! Although I think that's partially due to the ridiculous increase in movie ticket prices (compare 1979 ticket price to 1989).

 

[BigJim]

I defiatley agree he'd be suspiscious of a lead box. One doesn't get bitten by THAT snake twice.

Knowing story writers as I do, I think there'll be a confrontation of some kind, because of their different approaches to sorting crime out. The result of the "fight" will probably be an inconclusive stand off.

If you compare the percentage margin of profit between cost of the movie and how much it cleared into the black, the Superman movies would slaughter the Batman ones. The last two Batman film were full of special effects, but were the most dire pieces of shit it has ever been my dis-pleasure to encounter. With the Superman films only the last one was truly awful, and even that only had a budget of $17 million. I don't think that would've even covered George Clooney's salary in Batman and Robin.