Ah, it's nice to see that we can disagree with each other with such grace and civility.
I know of no portion of the BDSM community, especially on this forum, who ever disregard the importance of safety. That's why we teach classes, and write books and articles, and post so often about how to play with as little danger as possible while still having our fun. Risk Aware Consensual Kink can probably be twisted to seem as though safety has taken a backseat, if you try hard enough and you're determined to view and show BDSM in a bad light; but everyone, including the one doing the twisting, would know it was baloney, safety is always the number one concern of everyone here that I know.
As popular as you obviously consider youself to be, even you don't know everybody in the BDSM community, nor even the majority, so at best you are ill-qualified to speak on their behalf at all.
Secondly, I've not twisted anything with regards to RACK. All I've done is point out the FACT that up until fairly recently the widely accepted philosophy for BDSM was SSC, Safe Sane and Consentual. Now it's Risk Aware Consentual Kink. It's no twist whatsoever to say that safety and sanity have been omitted. You may perhaps feel that the new acronym is better suited, but you can't deny that safety and sanity are missing from it.
If you want to see some better examples of a twist, here you go....
Bella Risa said:
Using the death of a stranger and the pain of their partner for the simple pleasure of attempting to be 'right', and for a topic about which one claims to have no true interest or passion
Bella Risa said:
This thread wasn't created to help, teach, or enlighten in any way, or balance a darn thing. It was designed to irritate and agitate and annoy a certain group of members, and to give the OP some obviously and desperately needed attention
Neither of these ricidulous comments merit any response. This thread was indeed created to enlighten and offer a more balanced view of what's potentially involved in BDSM than what the general TMF member is used to seeing here. On the contrary, it is you who add nothing to this discussion by your posturing. If you believe the article, or any of my extrapolations from it are in question, by all means present your case. Otherwise, I invite you seek a different thread in which to participate.
Blaming your own downfalls constantly on a large part of many people's life, because they have the courage and the ability to openly and freely enjoy the lifestyle that they choose?
My own downfalls? What downfalls of my own have I even mentioned, and where do I cast blame on anybody for them??
There's that "quote and argue" thing you do so often. Sometimes I find it merited. Most of the time it's tiresome.
On the contrary, I find it very useful for directing specific responses to specific statements, rather than just a haphazard melange of sentences.
dvnc said:
Your tiny article shows only that some fellow was saving someone that we can potentially ASSUME was his play partner. He may have come home to her. She may have been only a friend visiting, who had a heart attack. Much is possible.
Yes, especially the possiblity that she died from the S&M activity, as the article suggests. A possibility you seem unwilling to entertain for reasons yet to be made clear.
dvnc said:
My friends do apologize for insulting me, as I do with them. You, Drew, are now someone I see as completely disrespectful of me and a large group of friends of mine, here. I had seen us as friends, previously. You disappoint me here, too.
I'm sorry you feel that way, but I'll be here should you ever reconsider. I've not been disrespectful to you in the slightest. On the contrary it is you who have disrespected me with your accusations and allegations. I don't ask for any apology, as I believe that any apology given in response to a demand for one is insincere at best.
dvnc said:
]I don't respect this in the slightest, and thus don't respect you for it.
Don't need your respect, brer. Nor do I feel that not having it reflects on me in any way. It's your decision to either give it or withhold it. Not mine.
Saying that people shouldn't practice BDSM due to the risk of death is like saying that people shouldn't drive. Know the risk, play with someone you trust who knows what they are doing, and always
take precautions. Much like wearing your seatbelt and not speeding. 🙂
Hi Amanda.
🙂 I hope you are getting over that cold you had on Friday.
🙁
Okay first, I never said "that people shouldn't practice BDSM". I have many friends who practice it and my observational experiences with it go back to the mid 1970s. I concur that it can be done safely and sanely, as it has been for decades.
The issues as I see them are
1) There is a lot of activity in some circles that I would in a heartbeat label as unsafe and insane. Sticking a knife in somebody's face, for instance. That's simply begging for an eye to be put out. Another example would be asphyxiation. There you've left the arena of tactile sensation and entered the realm of interfering with vital body functions. These are but two examples of many. I posted the article to demonstrate that some people die from some of the more extreme practices.
2) In an attempt to justify/rationalize some of these more extreme forms of "play," the widely accepted principal of SSC was replaced (not enhanced or augmented, but rather completely substituted) with RACK. The message this sends is clear: Don't worry so much about safety and sanity. Just make sure people are AWARE of the risk, but don't let risk in any way stop or hinder you.
Amanda, your analogy between BDSM safety and Auto safety doesn't really work. People drive in cars out of <em>necessity</em>. They drive to work, to the grocery store, to the doctor's office, etc. in order to <em>survive</em>. The vast majority of driving being done today is not for sexual thrill or excitement. The same cannot be said for BDSM. It has absolutely no other function other than a personal thrill.
So, I hope that unlike the others, you'll understand that I'm not dissing the entire BDSM community, merely providing some alternative input that seems to get overlooked amidst all the hype and glamour.
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