Being sexually excited by seeing minors tickled - is it wrong?

[Gothika]

anyone that gets off to kids is sick in the head and should be shot

 

[Aragon]

Every homosexual I have ever known said he did not choose to be gay. Why would anyone choose a life of discrimination, scorn and the constant threat of physical violence? Why would any man choose a life in which self-styled macho men mock you, Bible-waving freakos tell you you're going to burn in hell forever and people with juvenile senses of humor crack jokes at your expense? Who would want to risk being fired from his job, tossed out of home, or shunned by family? They all came out because supressing their feelings and living a lie was worse.

My uncle chose quite easily. This was in the late 70's and he lived out in the open. He was a Vietnam Vet. He also became a jeweler, opened up his own store, sold it, opened a few dry cleaners or laundromats, can't remember which. He has had the same partner since shortly after I was born. He wouldn't do the marriage thing, at all. He was married before I was born and he jokingly says she turned him gay.

 

[xSamanthax]

I'm sorry but you cannot compare being sexualy excited by children with anything els. I know of a situation regarding a minor being sexualy assulted by someone they knew and they have done the right thing, they got the authorities involved and have cut all ties with this person! Furthermore I will not feel sorry for these people, we all know right from wrong, don't we!

I'm sorry, but yes I can.

A paraphilia is a paraphilia. The specific doesn't matter beyond what we find acceptable or not.

What you cannot compare is pedophilia with rape. =) Child molestation or sexual assault is the act of a rapist. Rape is wrong no matter who it happens to, and it should reported and dealt with immediately.

Not all pedophiles are rapists. A few are, yes, but it is stupid to make a sweeping generalization based on the atrocious actions of the high profile few. Especially when that generalization is that these people are not human.

 

[xSamanthax]

My uncle chose quite easily. This was in the late 70's and he lived out in the open. He was a Vietnam Vet. He also became a jeweler, opened up his own store, sold it, opened a few dry cleaners or laundromats, can't remember which. He has had the same partner since shortly after I was born. He wouldn't do the marriage thing, at all. He was married before I was born and he jokingly says she turned him gay.

Jokingly, lol. Yes. Gay people can certainly choose whether or not to pursue relationships. Just like hetero people who choose to be celibate.

So, when did you choose to become a heterosexual?

 

[xSamanthax]

xSamanthax, you have a very personal and somewhat unique POV on this because of this circumstance. The difference is simply that this family member of yours not only doesn't act on his impulses (or at least has done all he can think of to prevent a repeat occurance of prior actions) but wishes to not have these impulses. This person in your family deserves a great deal of credit compared to those who choose to act on their desires.

I don't think he is the type of pediophile we are refering to. His efforts to take control of his desires, no matter how "natural", are honerable and noteworthy.

No, it is not a unique POV and the kid isn't unique either. Pedophiles don't WANT to be pedophiles. They want to be normal. They want to be able to have normal relationships with other normal people and have their piece of the american dream, just like everyone else.

Pedophiles who act aren't just pedophiles. So let's at least compare apples and apples. Child molesters are *rapists*. And rape is wrong no matter the age of the victim, wouldn't you agree?

 

[Happyman]

No one is defending them acting on their sexual desire. You keep ignoring that line. People can't help the way they are programed BUT they do need to control their actions.

people do need to control their actions, but they can also control their sexual desire if they prepare themselves properly. Im not saying people can get rid of the fact that it might turn them on, but if you are getting turned on by ANYTHING a kid does, then you need to remove yourself from that situation. If that situation keeps coming up then you need to get yourself some real help.

 

[The Last Laugh]

My uncle, who is probably one of the more stable people I know, says his homosexuality is a choice. He says he wanted to get away from women and he did.

It's quite possibly a choice for some people, but definitely not for everyone. Besides, I don't see how it's any different from being heterosexual. I didn't choose to be hetero, but that's what I am. I can't help it.

 

[xSamanthax]

"I am a homocidal bipolar. Means I get uncontrollable urges to hurt or kill. I have discussed this before on this forum. So, I am not bringing this up."

Sooo, I should listen to,and be persuaded by a homicidal bipolar person??? I think I will pass, lol.

But a question: does the thought of killing someone arouse you sexually? If not, then your basis of comparison just went out the window.

When you learn to control your arousal patterns, come talk to me. And I don't mean doing long division in your head til the swelling subsides. I mean not have the sexual reaction to a stimulus that turns you on.

"If I, as someone that suffers from a physiological issue that causes psychological problems can get it under control with discipline and hard work, someone who has a mental problem that is not from a chemical balance can as well."

If that were true, there would be no pedophiles, and no child molesters in existence.

Pedophilia is a paraphilia. So is tickling. And fetishes.

"Pedophilia is more than illegal, it is something that is disturbing. It is not a fetish or any other sort of acceptable behavior."

Pedophilia is NOT a behavior. Pedophilia, once again, is a paraphilia. It describes what a person finds sexually arousing. Most pedophiles don't act on it.

Molestation IS a behavior. It is rape. Rape is wrong, no matter the age of the victim. It is not more wrong to rape a child than an adult.

"Caligula might have accepted it, but someone who doesn't want their young family member to be a victim of someone like that, do not."

Your non-acceptance doesn't keep anyone safe though. You do realize that right? That accepted or not, people will continue to be born with this paraphilia.

"They say that pedophilia cannot be cured. I have read it multiple times. That is why I say castration."

Have you read the studies from Europe (where voluntary castration is allowed)? Are you aware that castration doesn't work on most child molesters? Do you know why?

Becasue rape is usually not a sexual act. Taking away the sexual urge does not take away the urge to force, coerce, and dominate someone. You do not need a functioning penis to sexually assault someone.

"I would not want to meet the young man, because I do not control my tongue around certain types of people and I am nice enough not to go around them."

And I would not want to meet you, either. Or anyone who thinks that it is acceptable to treat human beings like animals.

 

[The Last Laugh]

As Aragon mentioned; They're plenty out there who indeed have a choice and can make the choice.

Yes, I agree. Not all do. But lumping them into a category like you mentioned isn't correct.

What do you mean by "lumping them into a category"? Are you suggesting I think both interests are similar in nature? I'm sorry, but that couldn't be further from the truth. Clearly, homosexuality and pedophilia are totally different things. However, both are sexual preferences. So why is it so hard to accept that for many people, pedophilia is no more a choice than homosexuality?

 

[The Last Laugh]

That's fine, but please don't put homosexuals in the same category with Pedophiles... ever. The media does enough of that.

Why on earth do people think we're putting homosexuals and pedophiles in the same category? Explain how you figure this. No one ever said such a thing. Just because both words are mentioned in the same text doesn't mean the author thinks they're equivalent. Please try to take context into consideration.

Don't say we put them in the same category... ever. I'm not joking.

 

[The Last Laugh]

I, on the other hand, despise pedophiles and I almost killed one when my sister was 8. He had tried something with her and I found out. All you people who want to defend pedophiles, remember, it is illegal. If you think the person cannot help being like that, fine, then they can be chemically or physically castrated.

That could possibly be an option in this particular case, I guess. But why put all pedophiles in the same category just because a small percentage of them do horrible things?

I totally understand that you and your sister were hurt and scarred by such a person. I'm truly sorry about it. But don't let your experience make you condemn an entire group of people because of it. That's generalizing, and that's never a good thing. You should despise the pedophiles who act upon their desires, not all pedophiles. Or at least, hate pedophilia itself, not the people who have it. I'm sure there are plenty out there who, despite their dark, unpleasant secret, are otherwise perfectly fine people. If they can control their urges and behave like the average person, never doing anything inappropriate to a minor or supporting the child porn industry, then good for them. It must require willpower. I mean, I know I would find it very hard to do absolutely nothing about my sexual attraction to women if I found myself in a world were it's considered a horrible, criminal deviance. And I'd be pretty upset if people hated me or suggested that I should be castrated even if I kept my urges perfectly under control.

 

[Ticklshchic03]

Why on earth do people think we're putting homosexuals and pedophiles in the same category? Explain how you figure this. No one ever said such a thing. Just because both words are mentioned in the same text doesn't mean the author thinks they're equivalent. Please try to take context into consideration.

Don't say we put them in the same category... ever. I'm not joking.

Because someone did by claiming that homosexuality is a choice, such as acting upon pedophillia. Read up.

Acting upon your homosexual desires isn't the same as acting upon sex with children. What we do, doesn't hurt others.

I'm not joking either.

 

[Ticklshchic03]

people do need to control their actions, but they can also control their sexual desire if they prepare themselves properly. Im not saying people can get rid of the fact that it might turn them on, but if you are getting turned on by ANYTHING a kid does, then you need to remove yourself from that situation. If that situation keeps coming up then you need to get yourself some real help.

Well said. That's what this thread is about. Not about those who act on it.

What do you mean by "lumping them into a category"? Are you suggesting I think both interests are similar in nature? I'm sorry, but that couldn't be further from the truth. Clearly, homosexuality and pedophilia are totally different things. However, both are sexual preferences. So why is it so hard to accept that for many people, pedophilia is no more a choice than homosexuality?

No, it isn't anymore of a choice and that's the point but acting on our desires isn't hurting someone.

 

[Happyman]

samantha, most of your argument is quite good, but there are flaws. By saying that if you dont actually act on something, then your not doing anything wrong does not work in society. For example, If I manage to hide a camera in a bathroom, and no one finds out - it is still wrong. If you are sexually enjoying something that a minor is doing, it is wrong. Granted not all of those wrong acts are illegal (mainly because there would be no way to tell who goes home and masturbates) its still wrong. Kids should be allowed to be kids without having the sexual desires of adults being pushed on them.

If anyone brings up the argument that if they (the kids, and everyone else) dont find tickling sexual then its ok, well let me just say to them that such an argument is BS. many children dont fully understand what is going on when they get molested, if someone is enjoying anything sexually that a kid is doing then they are in a form molesting them. Now to be fair there is a gray area, I know there are some young adults that are defiantly sexy, and might not be 18 (or 21 depending on where you live). I am only 22, so I can easily say that I am sure I have checked out under aged people, but If I find out that someone is actually only 16, I will desist in any actions such as hitting on them, because I know that she is too young.

 

[The Last Laugh]

No, it isn't anymore of a choice and that's the point but acting on our desires isn't hurting someone.

I agree with that. Being homosexual and acting on it is just fine, whereas it's not fine at all if one's a pedophile. But that's not the point I was making, as you realize full well. I'm saying that if a pedophile doesn't act on his desires, technically he isn't hurting anyone either. The only person who's hurt in such a situation is the pedophile himself, since he's unlucky enough to be stuck with his desires and has to supress them. I sure wouldn't want to be in such a situation myself.

 

[Aragon]

"I am a homocidal bipolar. Means I get uncontrollable urges to hurt or kill. I have discussed this before on this forum. So, I am not bringing this up."

Sooo, I should listen to,and be persuaded by a homicidal bipolar person??? I think I will pass, lol.

Good, because the chemical imbalance happened while I was defending your rights, so don't listen to me. I just happen to have overcome something that supposedly needs medications and supposedly can't be controlled.

"But a question: does the thought of killing someone arouse you sexually? If not, then your basis of comparison just went out the window.

When you learn to control your arousal patterns, come talk to me. And I don't mean doing long division in your head til the swelling subsides. I mean not have the sexual reaction to a stimulus that turns you on.

Actually, killing someone does give off the same sort of endorphins for me as I get when I am having sex. See, They could study the reactions to a small degree, as I served in some messed up areas of the world. So, same reactions. So I can answer you. Remember, I said I took part in something with 5 fellow Marines. Oops, you just lost that argument, because it is just like having sex to me.

"Pedophilia is a paraphilia. So is tickling. And fetishes.

Not all psychiatrist would agree with you. There is currently a major division in psychiatry over this issue. So, you are using the same argument that was used against homosexuals with that.

"Pedophilia is NOT a behavior. Pedophilia, once again, is a paraphilia. It describes what a person finds sexually arousing. Most pedophiles don't act on it.

Molestation IS a behavior. It is rape. Rape is wrong, no matter the age of the victim. It is not more wrong to rape a child than an adult.

A paraphilia (in Greek para παρά = besides and -philia φιλία = love)— is any of several persistent, intense sexual interests, fantasies, or urges involving nonhuman objects, pain or humiliation, children, or nonconsenting individuals. Paraphilias may interfere with the capacity for sexual activity with consenting adult partners. Hmmm, you did not quite explain what you were spreading.

I have been a member of this forum for a long time. I have practiced BDSM since I was 19 and I turn 33 this year. I do not need any fetish to enjoy sex or even get off. But, here is the thing, I prefer consenting adults. I have humiliated someone before by tickling, but it was non-sexual and it was actually consentual as she was told to not kick me and had been told that I would if she kicked me again. She had kicked me to the point of a bruise and I don't bruise easy. We didn't have sex, nor was there any sex involved with her. I do know how to utilize humiliation, but have never done so in a sexual stand point.

Any fetish I take place in is for enjoyment, yes, but I can do without it. I would dare say that all but a rare few on this forum would say the same. So, you lumping consenting adults enjoying something consentually with someone who you admit is mentally disturbed is ridiculus. Your argument lacks intelligence for that reason. You trying to use 10 dollar words to confuse people is, in it of itself, disgraceful and sad. Trying to defend something that even hardened criminals are sickened by is even odder.

"Your non-acceptance doesn't keep anyone safe though. You do realize that right? That accepted or not, people will continue to be born with this paraphilia.

Yes, my non-acceptance will keep people safe. I watch for the behavior. I alert others to someone that is a pedophile. I am a stron supporter of tracking sex offenders, which are able to be tracked thanks to laws against such criminals. Since they have problems controlling themselves, then I can make sure by vigilance that there are fewer victims.

"Have you read the studies from Europe (where voluntary castration is allowed)? Are you aware that castration doesn't work on most child molesters? Do you know why?

Becasue rape is usually not a sexual act. Taking away the sexual urge does not take away the urge to force, coerce, and dominate someone. You do not need a functioning penis to sexually assault someone.

Then what is your suggestion on how children should be protected? So far, you are saying that we should allow the people that have uncontrollable urges to molest young children the right to walk around. You want your children molested? Because if you say no, then answer me how to keep kids safe. If you say yes, call DCS.

"And I would not want to meet you, either. Or anyone who thinks that it is acceptable to treat human beings like animals.

I do not treat anyone like an animal, unless they act like an animal. Someone who wants to rape little children, no matter the reason, is an animal in my eyes.

 

[mclaren01]

Amongst all the fantastic, thoughtful replies I'd just like to add that I'm chuffed with creating my first ever thread to recieve over 10 replies.

 

[xSamanthax]

"samantha, most of your argument is quite good, but there are flaws. By saying that if you dont actually act on something, then your not doing anything wrong does not work in society. For example, If I manage to hide a camera in a bathroom, and no one finds out - it is still wrong."

Installing a spy camera is "Acting", just as much as peeping in person is. I didn't say it is only wrong if you get caught. I said that pedophilia, specifically, is not inherently wrong. Acting on it, can be.

Wanting to install a spy cam is not wrong. Installing the spy cam is. In other words.

"If you are sexually enjoying something that a minor is doing, it is wrong."

I disagree. If you rape a minor, it is wrong.

And further, if it is something the kid is doing, rather than the kid itself, then it is not wrong at all. The turn on is the thing, not the child.

"If anyone brings up the argument that if they (the kids, and everyone else) dont find tickling sexual then its ok, well let me just say to them that such an argument is BS. many children dont fully understand what is going on when they get molested, if someone is enjoying anything sexually that a kid is doing then they are in a form molesting them."

I disagree. If the kid is completely unaware that someone is whacking off to their picture/video, the kid hasn't been molested. The kid isn't involved. Their image is. Images cannot be molested.


"Now to be fair there is a gray area, I know there are some young adults that are defiantly sexy, and might not be 18 (or 21 depending on where you live). I am only 22, so I can easily say that I am sure I have checked out under aged people, but If I find out that someone is actually only 16, I will desist in any actions such as hitting on them, because I know that she is too young."

And back in the day, she would have been married and had 3 kids by 16. =) Age of consent is totally arbitrary. It even varies state to state.

Also, ps. Pederasty is not pedophilia

 

[xSamanthax]

"Good, because the chemical imbalance happened while I was defending your rights, so don't listen to me. I just happen to have overcome something that supposedly needs medications and supposedly can't be controlled."

So because you are a bipolar, homicidal *military* guy, it changes things? Look, I'm from a military family. All I can say is that I hope the VA is taking care of you.

"Actually, killing someone does give off the same sort of endorphins for me as I get when I am having sex. See, They could study the reactions to a small degree, as I served in some messed up areas of the world. So, same reactions. So I can answer you. Remember, I said I took part in something with 5 fellow Marines. Oops, you just lost that argument, because it is just like having sex to me."

Good now imagine for a moment that killing someone was the *only* thing that got you sexually aroused. How easy do you think it would be to keep yourself under control? How easy do you think it would be to completely and utterly refrain from all sexuality - for the entirety of your mortal existence?

What do the other five marines have to do with anything? I am married to a marine. So what?

"Not all psychiatrist would agree with you. There is currently a major division in psychiatry over this issue. So, you are using the same argument that was used against homosexuals with that."

Please link me to your sources on this. And no I am not using any argument that was used against homosexuals. Homosexuality is not a paraphilia.

"A paraphilia (in Greek para παρά = besides and -philia φιλία = love)— is any of several persistent, intense sexual interests, fantasies, or urges involving nonhuman objects, pain or humiliation, children, or nonconsenting individuals. Paraphilias may interfere with the capacity for sexual activity with consenting adult partners."

Including tickling. Tickling is a paraphilia.

"Hmmm, you did not quite explain what you were spreading."

What?

"Any fetish I take place in is for enjoyment, yes, but I can do without it."

Then it is not a fetish for you, by definition. A fetish is something that the person NEEDS in order to have sexual satisfaction.

"I would dare say that all but a rare few on this forum would say the same."

I think you might be surprised.

"So, you lumping consenting adults enjoying something consentually with someone who you admit is mentally disturbed is ridiculus."

Tickling is a paraphilia. Pedophilia is a paraphilia, not a mental illness. Rape is bad, mmmkay? That is what I have said.

"Your argument lacks intelligence for that reason. You trying to use 10 dollar words to confuse people is, in it of itself, disgraceful and sad."

If paraphilia is a 10 dollar word for you, that is sad.

"Trying to defend something that even hardened criminals are sickened by is even odder."

You might try reading for comprehension, lol. I am not defending child molesters any more than I am defending rapists. I am saying that pedophilia, in and of itself, is not wrong. Rape, however, is. Pedophilia and rape are not the same things.

"Yes, my non-acceptance will keep people safe. I watch for the behavior. I alert others to someone that is a pedophile. I am a stron supporter of tracking sex offenders, which are able to be tracked thanks to laws against such criminals. Since they have problems controlling themselves, then I can make sure by vigilance that there are fewer victims."

You are welcome to your illusions.

"Then what is your suggestion on how children should be protected?"

Children cannot be 100% protected. Beyond that, convicted sex offenders need treatment and a high level of supervision. Voluntary castration could be offered for those who think it would help them. Money needs to be invested in research for possible behavioral modification programs. Yada yada yada.

"So far, you are saying that we should allow the people that have uncontrollable urges to molest young children the right to walk around."

Again, might try reading for comprehension. Never said that.

"You want your children molested? Because if you say no, then answer me how to keep kids safe. If you say yes, call DCS."

You can't keep kids safe. Life is inherently risky.

 

[Aragon]

You know, I am over it.

You think kids should be molested, I get it. I am over the arguing, because I will not argue with fanatics. When I do, I get the same rise in my anger.

Everyone else, I am sorry I kept this sad argument going. I would suggest that this go to the politics and religion sub-forum. Unless a discussion on why child molesters are normal or not belongs in tickling.

Samantha, I actually feel for you. I have never thought that a parent would defend people who would hurt her kids as vehemently as you do. You, in my eyes belong in a grouping of people I stop chatting with. I quit arguing because it of my bipolarism. The angrier I get, the more I want to hurt someone. Thank you for showing a new low for someone though, caused me to lose faith in people even more.

I am through with this thread.

 

[Soda Bobinski]

Actually ...

You know, I am over it.

You think kids should be molested, I get it. I am over the arguing, because I will not argue with fanatics. When I do, I get the same rise in my anger.

Everyone else, I am sorry I kept this sad argument going. I would suggest that this go to the politics and religion sub-forum. Unless a discussion on why child molesters are normal or not belongs in tickling.

Samantha, I actually feel for you. I have never thought that a parent would defend people who would hurt her kids as vehemently as you do. You, in my eyes belong in a grouping of people I stop chatting with. I quit arguing because it of my bipolarism. The angrier I get, the more I want to hurt someone. Thank you for showing a new low for someone though, caused me to lose faith in people even more.

I am through with this thread.

... xSamanthax & The Last Laugh are two of the people making the most sense to me on this thread ( there are others who have echoed their sentiments , too ).

Now , Aragon ... I'm not trying to pick on you or start an argument w/you , but xSamanthax is in NO WAY advocating for children to be molested. I've read her posts in this thread & she has stated numerous times that acts such as rape & molestation should NEVER be condoned. I'm not sure why you are saying otherwise.

Now , you mention that the angrier you get , the more you want to hurt someone. Okay ... I get that. Now , the fact that you're someone who suffers from homicidal bipolarism & you're able to control yourself & NOT hurt someone is commendable ... right?

Well , wouldn't you agree that someone who suffers from having sexual urges for children but is able to contol themselves & NOT act on it ... is also commendable? Because that's all xSamanthax is saying ( that's what I'm reading , anyway ).

 

[Ticklshchic03]

... xSamanthax & The Last Laugh are two of the people making the most sense to me on this thread ( there are others who have echoed their sentiments , too ).

Now , Aragon ... I'm not trying to pick on you or start an argument w/you , but xSamanthax is in NO WAY advocating for children to be molested. I've read her posts in this thread & she has stated numerous times that acts such as rape & molestation should NEVER be condoned. I'm not sure why you are saying otherwise.

Now , you mention that the angrier you get , the more you want to hurt someone. Okay ... I get that. Now , the fact that you're someone who suffers from homicidal bipolarism & you're able to control yourself & NOT hurt someone is commendable ... right?

Well , wouldn't you agree that someone who suffers from having sexual urges for children but is able to contol themselves & NOT act on it ... is also commendable? Because that's all xSamanthax is saying ( that's what I'm reading , anyway ).

ftw....

 

[LD_Tickler]

samantha, most of your argument is quite good, but there are flaws. By saying that if you dont actually act on something, then your not doing anything wrong does not work in society. For example, If I manage to hide a camera in a bathroom, and no one finds out - it is still wrong. If you are sexually enjoying something that a minor is doing, it is wrong. Granted not all of those wrong acts are illegal (mainly because there would be no way to tell who goes home and masturbates) its still wrong. Kids should be allowed to be kids without having the sexual desires of adults being pushed on them.

If anyone brings up the argument that if they (the kids, and everyone else) dont find tickling sexual then its ok, well let me just say to them that such an argument is BS. many children dont fully understand what is going on when they get molested, if someone is enjoying anything sexually that a kid is doing then they are in a form molesting them. Now to be fair there is a gray area, I know there are some young adults that are defiantly sexy, and might not be 18 (or 21 depending on where you live). I am only 22, so I can easily say that I am sure I have checked out under aged people, but If I find out that someone is actually only 16, I will desist in any actions such as hitting on them, because I know that she is too young.

You're seriously confused on what's being said. Your hidden camera analogy is completely out of place. Of course hiding a camera is wrong whether or not its discovered, IT is an action. We're saying feelings and urges are fine, no matter what they are, as long as you control them, IE you don't act on them. We are definitely not saying that you can do what you want as long as nobody realizes it.

As for this "you can choose your sexuality/sexual preferences" doctrine, I have no idea where this came from. Science is fuzzy when it comes to this, but all research findings indicate that sexuality takes shape either biologically or at some early stage in development, or even through trauma. There is absolutely zip, as in no reliable evidence to suggest there's an element of choice. The only things to support that view are self-serving anecdotes used mostly by religious fundamentalist groups to justify gay bashing. Anecdotes aren't reliable. "My cousin Jimmy said he stopped liking women one day" isn't enough to base an argument on, I'm sorry, it just plain isn't. Your cousin Jimmy may be lying, or he may have glossed over the experience, or whatever.

Pedophilia is not a chemical imbalance, it's not a disease, it's not unhealthy. Unhealthy? I can't believe people on this forum - a forum for sexual deviants - dare to use that term when it comes to bizarre sexual tastes. Pedophiles aren't bad people, child molesters are. Having an urge vs acting on that urge is different. That point of pure common sense has been repeated in this thread dozens of times, I can't understand why I still have to mention it.

There is no neurological difference between pedophilia and a tickling fetish. If pedophiles who live productive lives without hurting children are to be condemned as child molesters, then I'm to be condemned as a torturing-rapist for my sexual tastes. And so are many of you.

Also, I want to acknowledge the argument that pedophiles ought to be singled out for their urges, because they can't be trusted not to act on them. People, please think about that for a second. Like I said, I have dark sexual urges. I'm not going to act on them because I have a conscience, just like (yep, you guessed it) many pedophiles. Are we arresting people up because we think they're likely to commit a crime? Who the fuck can make that judgement? Nobody. Just because you have an illegal desire doesn't mean you're dangerous. If it does, then you'd better lock me up, because I have desires up the fucking wazoo.


Also, as furious as I am right now, I'm enjoying this exchange of ideas, so people, please don't be idiots by typing things like "You want kids to be molested, I get it." You know that's not what we're saying. Don't be ignorant dicks.

 

[LD_Tickler]

[In response to the question, why would somebody choose to be homosexual and face discrimination, scorn, etc:]

Because they realized they we're in love with someone of the same sex?

Sexuality (homo or hetero) isn't about love, it's about sexual attraction. You don't become gay by loving somebody of the same same gender.

 

[Ticklshchic03]

Also, as furious as I am right now, I'm enjoying this exchange of ideas, so people, please don't be idiots by typing things like "You want kids to be molested, I get it." You know that's not what we're saying. Don't be ignorant dicks.

🙂 we were talking about this in the chat today. The best thing about this thread was that there was actual discussion going on!