Best all-time wrestling groups or stables

[FlockOfSeagulls]

true but they were wwf before wcw and thts what we were arguing

fair enough....I think we will both agree that the WWE is for the most part a joke now and becoming more the WCW everyday

 

[punkrockergirl]

i disagree wwe isnt a joke its still decent but it will never recapture the glory of the attitude era

 

[FlockOfSeagulls]

i disagree wwe isnt a joke its still decent but it will never recapture the glory of the attitude era

they never ever stick to a storyline and then they bring pack an injured wrestler and give him the title his first match back. I sure all the talent is really happy with that decision

 

[punkrockergirl]

they never ever stick to a storyline and then they bring pack an injured wrestler and give him the title his match back. I sure all the talent is really happy with that decision

yes that was an absolute travesty.. they are turning cena into the modern day hogan (NEVER LOSES) and yes they need to get back to long running elaborate story lines.. but they have amazing talent ala jeff hardy, orton, benjamin, mvp, regal, kennedy just to name a few its just the outside the ring that needs to be worked on i think the physical talent is as good as its ever been

 

[FlockOfSeagulls]

yes that was an absolute travesty.. they are turning cena into the modern day hogan (NEVER LOSES) and yes they need to get back to long running elaborate story lines.. but they have amazing talent ala jeff hardy, orton, benjamin, mvp, regal, kennedy just to name a few its just the outside the ring that needs to be worked on i think the physical talent is as good as its ever been

They have talent and yet some of their best workers get slipped to joke that is ECW. Finley and Mark Henry also get completely ignored. And for the longest time they had no clue how to use shelton, and Regal is another that has been under valued until just recently

 

[punkrockergirl]

yes they under use or dont use a lot of talent

umaga.mvp.kennedy.henry.regal.BENJAMIN (the most he could be great).miz.morrison.elijah burke before he was fired.the boogeyman .. im sure i forgot a few

 

[FlockOfSeagulls]

yes they under use or dont use a lot of talent

umaga.mvp.kennedy.henry.regal.BENJAMIN (the most he could be great).miz.morrison.elijah burke before he was fired.the boogeyman .. im sure i forgot a few

Hardy has had a great run and so what do they do, they turn him into a high-flying version of Doink the clown.

and recently the give CM Punk a major push when he is a mid-card wrestler at his very best. He has come close many times to breaking a guys nose with the incredibly stupid Go To Sleep move.

 

[punkrockergirl]

the go to sleep is great and punk is a good wrestler and entertains me .. and yes they use hardy very oddly but overall i cant complain about the wwe becasue i tune in every week

 

[The Sean Man]

steiners, windham, pillman, rhodes. were all wwf products first

Windham was a star in several NWA promotions down south, winning several titles. He teamed up with Mike Rotunda in the early eighties, winning the tag belts in NWA-offshoot Florida Championship Wrestling. Shortly after that, he and Rotunda were signed by the WWF.

The Steiners were singles and tag champs in WCW before WWF.

Pillman was brought in from a smaller organization to WCW, where he was promoted heavily, before a leg injury wrecked his high flying style. It was then that he went to WWE.

Rhodes was a longtime fixture in many southern promotions, feuding heavily in NWA (WCW) for YEARS before going to the WWF and putting on polka dots.

 

[SlaverTickler]

For me this one is super easy........The Four Horsemen were the best stable in the history of the biz!

I love the Hart Foundation in any incarnation, but I have to give credit where it is due. The were the first, and the best. 4HM

 

[SlaverTickler]

...and recently they give CM Punk a major push when he is a mid-card wrestler at his very best. He has come close many times to breaking a guys nose with the incredibly stupid Go To Sleep move.

And Flair did the same match every night, but yet you love him. If he hasn't broken anybodies nose then whats the problem. I think he should probably stop using this move if he isn't doing it write, but Flair caused Hart to dislocate his finger, and sprain his knee during the match where he won the title from the Nature Boy. What do you have against a mid-card guy getting a break anyway, aren't you the one who caped on me for having an issue with chainge?

 

[FlockOfSeagulls]

And Flair did the same match every night, but yet you love him. If he hasn't broken anybodies nose then whats the problem. I think he should probably stop using this move if he isn't doing it write, but Flair cause Hart to dislocate his finger, and spain his knee during the match where he won the title from him. What do you have against a mid-card guy getting a break anyway, aren't you the one who caped on me for having an issue with chainge?

I have finally seen the error of my ways. Hart is the greatest wrestler ever!!!!
Infact if it wasn`t for Hart wrestling would have never been invented. Flair, Hogan, Thesz, Sammartino, Race all rode the coat tails of the Hitman. even though Hart no linger wrestles he is still the best wrestler today and all wrestling promotions should just hand over their World champoinship belts to Hart.

 

[SlaverTickler]

I have finally seen the error of my ways. Hart is the greatest wrestler ever!!!!
Infact if it wasn`t for Hart wrestling would have never been invented. Flair, Hogan, Thesz, Sammartino, Race all rode the coat tails of the Hitman. even though Hart no linger wrestles he is still the best wrestler today and all wrestling promotions should just hand over their World champoinship belts to Hart.

Hey your the one who loves Flair and talks about him like he is perfect, while shitting on an up and commer like CM Punk. You are also the guy who told me I was being ignorant because I couldn't except chainge, and yet here you are doing the exact same thing you acused me off. Nothing you said in the above statement has anything to do with the question I posted, and proves you are as much of a snake as your hero.

By the way, I heard the Raitings went up after Punk won the title.

 

[FlockOfSeagulls]

Hey your the one who loves Flair and talks about him like he is perfect, while shitting on an up and commer like CM Punk. You are also the guy who told me I was being ignorant because I couldn't except chainge, and yet here you are doing the exact same thing you acused me off. Nothing you said in the above statement has anything to do with the question I posted, and proves you are as much of a snake as your hero.

No. all you did was bring Hart into the conversation yet again as you always do.

Anything that is wrestling related , somehow hart is brought up by you. We could be talking about ladies tag- team wrestling and you at some point you will bring up Hart.

Do us a favor. Just one time, get into a wrestling thread and NOT bring up HART. that`S not to much to ask , is it ?

 

[SlaverTickler]

No. all you did was bring Hart into the conversation yet again as you always do.

Anything that is wrestling related , somehow hart is brought up by you. We could be talking about ladies tag- team wrestling and you at some point you will bring up Hart.

Do us a favor. Just one time, get into a wrestling thread and NOT bring up HART. that`S not to much to ask , is it ?

I'll tell you what, you agree to quit pretending like you actualy give a shit about this indastry and I will see what I can do about my Hart-Condition.

 

[FlockOfSeagulls]

I'll tell you what, you agree to quit pretending like you actualy give a shit about this indastry and I will see what I can do about my Hart-Condition.

What makes you think I give a shit about the '' industry'' ????

I am not a big fan of the current WWE , but that is pretty much all we have , especially if TNA is in as much trouble as we are lead to believe. I enjoy watching certain wrestlers such as Batista, HBK, Undertaker, Kane, Mark Henry, Finlay, and others. I watch some TNA because of sting, angle , and Nash

 

[SlaverTickler]

What makes you think I give a shit about the '' industry'' ????

I am not a big fan of the current WWE , but that is pretty much all we have , especially if TNA is in as much trouble as we are lead to believe. I enjoy watching certain wrestlers such as Batista, HBK, Undertaker, Kane, Mark Henry, Finlay, and others. I watch some TNA because of sting, angle , and Nash

And how exactly do you expect things to chainge if you continue to suport it. Here is a clue Flock, Vince doesn't give a shit about anybody but Vince. As long as the raitings are good, the Mech sells, and the ass's are in the seats he will continue to put out the same crap you say you don't like. You must care about the industry, you've invested enough time fighting with me about.

 

[FlockOfSeagulls]

And how exactly do you expect things to chainge if you continue to suport it. Here is a clue Flock, Vince doesn't give a shit about anybody but Vince. As long as the raitings are good, the Mech sells, and the ass's are in the seats he will continue to put out the same crap you say you don't like. You must care about the industry, you've invested enough time fighting with me about.

Bret Hart would hate it that his biggest jock supporter doesn`t care about the industry that made him famous & rich. You should be very ashamed of yourself

 

[SlaverTickler]

Bret Hart would hate it that his biggest jock supporter doesn`t care about the industry that made him famous & rich. You should be very ashamed of yourself

I love pro wrestling, I just hate the way the indastry is, and has been run. Until things are different I will not support it, because I don't agree with the way managment treats it's workers like high priced cattle. One dies, well we'll spike our tv raitings with a tribute show, and then bring in another side of beef from the field. Not my personal view of them, but it's how management sees them, and it is a bad policy too. You build a guy up to a superstar only to have him die from a heart attack because he is using pain killers just so he can go out to the ring an agravait an enjury so he will need to take even more pain killers? But you keep watch, so the raiting are still there, so the advertisers are still there, so the profit is still there so Vince just doesn't give a shit.

Look at the Benoit situation. He lost his mind becuase of brain damage he suffered in the ring. Damage that could have been prevented if somebody in up stairs had said "Tell Chris to block those chair shots or he is suspended for 30 day without pay." Trust me, 30 days with out pay would have set him straight. Unfortunelty the bosses were to buisy watching his T-Shirt sell and not what he was doing in the ring. However if wrestling had a Union a shop stuart would have writen him up and warned him of a fine for unsafe work practesses. There is no "Health and Safty standard in wrestling, and until there is I won't suport it as an industry with money or time. I have nothing but respect for the performers even if I don't like their politicts and even if they are over raited IMO, simply because they have the guts to go out their and perform for their fans.

ST

 

[Tickle Fiend]

Slaver, you don't know half of what you think you know. I think boycotting the wrestling threads would really teach Vince.

 

[SlaverTickler]

Slaver, you don't know half of what you think you know. I think boycotting the wrestling threads would really teach Vince.

I know far more then you are willing to admit I know. Even if you take my personal views out of it, The only way to get McMahon to chainge the derection the product is going is to hit him in the wallet, other wise he thinks you must like it, and he will continue down that path becuase it is making him money.

However lets say you are right and I don't know shit. Where exactly am I wrong (other then spelling) in my previouse post.

 

[whyguy2]

For me, my favorite stables of all time were, in order

1. The Ministry of Darkness
2. The Original DX
3. NWO

 

[SlaverTickler]

Benoit Story...

In case you are wondering how I know about the Benoit thing her is the story they did on him on CBC's 5th Estate:

Part 1
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Part 2 (9:06 the guy says basicly what I believe)
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Part 3
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Part 4 (Primetime will find this one extra interesting)
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Final
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Now how is it I don't know what I am talking about when trained experts say I am right.

 

[punkrockergirl]

Windham was a star in several NWA promotions down south, winning several titles. He teamed up with Mike Rotunda in the early eighties, winning the tag belts in NWA-offshoot Florida Championship Wrestling. Shortly after that, he and Rotunda were signed by the WWF.

The Steiners were singles and tag champs in WCW before WWF.

Pillman was brought in from a smaller organization to WCW, where he was promoted heavily, before a leg injury wrecked his high flying style. It was then that he went to WWE.

Rhodes was a longtime fixture in many southern promotions, feuding heavily in NWA (WCW) for YEARS before going to the WWF and putting on polka dots.

WRONG! rhodes was with wwf first as were the steiners and pillman and by the way nwa didnt become wcw dumbass it merged with ecw in its dying days

 

[punkrockergirl]

I love pro wrestling, I just hate the way the indastry is, and has been run. Until things are different I will not support it, because I don't agree with the way managment treats it's workers like high priced cattle. One dies, well we'll spike our tv raitings with a tribute show, and then bring in another side of beef from the field. Not my personal view of them, but it's how management sees them, and it is a bad policy too. You build a guy up to a superstar only to have him die from a heart attack because he is using pain killers just so he can go out to the ring an agravait an enjury so he will need to take even more pain killers? But you keep watch, so the raiting are still there, so the advertisers are still there, so the profit is still there so Vince just doesn't give a shit.

Look at the Benoit situation. He lost his mind becuase of brain damage he suffered in the ring. Damage that could have been prevented if somebody in up stairs had said "Tell Chris to block those chair shots or he is suspended for 30 day without pay." Trust me, 30 days with out pay would have set him straight. Unfortunelty the bosses were to buisy watching his T-Shirt sell and not what he was doing in the ring. However if wrestling had a Union a shop stuart would have writen him up and warned him of a fine for unsafe work practesses. There is no "Health and Safty standard in wrestling, and until there is I won't suport it as an industry with money or time. I have nothing but respect for the performers even if I don't like their politicts and even if they are over raited IMO, simply because they have the guts to go out their and perform for their fans.

ST

your comments on the situation with benoit are obviously due to ignorance of the situation .. what u r saying has no relevance he didnt hurt himself in the wwe or even wcw the damage was done when he was young working ecw, jpw, and the indies and was made worse by constant painkiller,alcohol,and steroid abuse, i understand tht u obviously dont know what ur talking about and u obviously dont like what vince has done with the company ,, but then again if u dont watch it u dont belong posting in this thread, but anyone ur dislike of the wwe doesnt make them resoinsible for benoit and im sure u will argue but im not arguing back becasue u have proved u dont know enough to argue with me and im sure vince is just fine with the product the way it is today as are the millions of fans that watch it