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Boston Public....and "that" word...

In response, to Zebra's comment I say, why the hell would you NEED to wear a shit like that???? Who the hell told you that you were sub-human, 3/5 a person, just a cotton picker and not even an American?? NOONE cuz white poeple were and are the dominant race in this country. Since slavery ended America has told us we are inferior, that blonde hair blue eyes is beautiful and black is ugly. When you get this kind of bullsh*t programming, then maybe you can walk around with a "I'm white and proud" shirt. If I sound a little pissed off its cuz I am
 
No one at my place of employment says that Black is inferior, or 3/5 human, or not American...Believe me, if there's even a HINT of that, a mere BLINK of the possibility that there's that idea coming out of someone's mouth, it's straight to H.R. for them.

Why would I need to? I don't. That's my point. She doesn't need to wear her "100% Black" shirt to prove she's 100% Black. I can figure that one out on my own. With that shirt, she's merely provoking the idea that she's got an attitude.

No, you say? Fine...let me wear my "Whew, I'm White!" shirt, and let's see if you can figure out what my attitude is behind the shirt.

Cotton Picking days are over. Now it's the pity party. If I'm not behind you being 100% Black, then I must be against you. If I happen to have a better sales month, then it's gotta be "the man" putting you down. If YOU happen to have a better month in sales than me, then it's "Well it's about damn time". If we both have a bad sales month, it's "Now you see what I go through"...

I'm NOT going to give you sympathy for you being Black. I'm NOT going to give you sympathy because your great great grandfather was auctioned off for 40 cents. You ARE an American. ACT LIKE IT.

If you're an American in this day and age, you're entitled to ALL the same Freedoms that the rest of us are. If you're pissed off because you're not getting "your fair share", well, get in line.

We're not all Bill Gates. I certainly am not...but I'm not going to blame someone else because I'm not. I'm not going to let someone be my fall gguy if I'm not making it...basically it comes down to this.

COP OUT.

If you feel that you're being shorted in today's society...it's a
COP OUT.
 
Dont hand me your pathetic Blacks have an unfair advantage bullsh*t. You wanna wear the damn shirt fine go be a jacka$$. None wants your pity and its obvious that you'll never understand. So you just keep on bitching. You say we're American ACT like it well.....TREAT us like we are and we'll act like it you blithering idiot. I got news for you, u think you're being slighted cuz blacks have unfair advantage..DEAL WITH IT!!!
 
Zebra...

All I can say is....What if the t-shirt said:
"I'm All Woman, Respect Me" , or
"Gay Pride!", or
"Differently Abled but More than Capable", or, God forbid,
"Proud to be Black"

I would never dream of telling any of these groups that they should not make these statements. History has shown that they need to be made...yes, even today. I challenge any man to say that women don't have the right and need to demand respect or to say that "everything's OK for THEM" or that "WOMEN just copping out." We can't say that because we aren't women. Not only that, if we take the time to LOOK closely or just ASK them, we'll discover exactly why they feel that need. Similarly, I challenge anyone without any physical disability to say that "the differently-abled receive fair treatment nowadays" or "aren't treated any differently." We just haven't 'walked a mile in their moccasins.'

Now, in "retaliation" you might be tempted to wear the following t-shirts:
"I'm 100% Man, Respect Me",
"Heterosexual Pride!",
"Not Disabled...The Best There Is", and, finally,
"Proud to be White"

You can opt to sport any of these if you like. Hey, wear them to work. 🙄 I bet any of one them could land you in H.R. lol
 
Zebra said:
No, you say? Fine...let me wear my "Whew, I'm White!" shirt, and let's see if you can figure out what my attitude is behind the shirt.
I'm NOT going to give you sympathy for you being Black. I'm NOT going to give you sympathy because your great great grandfather was auctioned off for 40 cents. You ARE an American. ACT LIKE IT.
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I am so glad that I possess knowledge and intelligence! I am also blessed to have had enough experiences in life to know that not all white people are like you. And it’s a good thing too because if I didn't know any better, I could easily be fooled.

It is also a good thing that you are on a computer screen, because I assure you that you would never feel as brave as to express the same sentiment you shared here to that same black girl you speak of that works at your job.

I'm an American, you say? Act like it, you say? Hmm... Tell us how to act like an American? Describe it for us!

Then tell me if I acted like an American when I decided to stand tall even when in the seventh grade a white boy wearing a t-shirt that said, “If the South had won the war... wouldn't we have it made." spit in my face and called me a nigger?

Tell me if a young Muslim college student at Emory University acted like an American when some white boys beat the shit out of him just because they thought he was a Bin Laden sympathizer.

How about every time a woman has to put up with slurs, dirty jokes, and harassment at her job? How does she act like an American?

I will not be as ignorant to forget all of the things my heritage stands for. I will not be so ignorant to forget what my people fought for. It wasn't just for blacks... They fought for CIVIL RIGHTS for all people of all races! And because I honor my past, it keeps me stable and strong in the present, which will pave the way for my successful future... and even you and your bigotry cannot touch that.

You are sadly mistaken if you believe that we use racism as our crutch/ excuse. Every success story proves that we are fighters and overcomers. Our history proves that we have and we will continue to work, to live, to breathe, to make a difference, to reach the top regardless of the odds that are placed in front of us! And not even ignorant people such as you will be able to stop us! I say ignorant because I would never fault your race for the senseless words that pour out of your mouth. And THAT, our TRIUMPHS, are the reason for our celebration! Not just in February, but every day of the year.

You don't have to pity me because I feel pity for you. Worse, I feel sorry for your children if you have any, or ever chose to have a child! You are going to spread the same hatred, lack of empathy, subhuman bullshit to them. I just hope intelligence and love and truth is enough to combat the poison that has infected all the people in the world who think like YOU!

Sunriseticklee
Who usually has sunshine to share, and who apologizes sincerely to all the people who truly knows what it means to love regardless of color/gender/religion... etc.
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TickledToDeath said:
Words have more power than people can imagine or realize or care to acknowledge.
Words can make others happy.
Words can make others sad.
Words can ease a troubled mind.
Words can drive a spike through ones heart.
Words can be full of pleasure and compliments.
Words can be vile and destructive.
Actions may speak LOUDER than words, but words can cut deeper than any blade and cause deeper damage to the mind heart and soul that can and usually would last a lifetime.

It's only words....but then again.......
TTD
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My original reason for wanting to post was because I agreed with what TTD was saying... but alas... I had to read the second page and BLAM!! Got hit with a bullshit pie....

Anyway... TTD is right.... words have power folks, and words DO make a difference. I know that whatever I say affects every person in that room, and could cause an impact on them that could affect the rest of their lives.

Now saying nigger may be fine for you... (By the way, don't use any racial slur or derogatory remark around me regardless of who it is referring to!) but let me say nigger to one of the people in the room and then count the minutes between me having a job to being out on my ass walking to the nearest courthouse.

My students are not even allowed to use that word... or to say any derogatory/hurtful/demeaning remark period!

And I spend all day long trying to teach reading, history, morals and self-respect to every last one of my students because it DOES matter.

Lets face it... Sticks and stones will break your bones... and damn...those words hurt too. And the pain also stays with you longer.

Just because it doesn't bother you, does not mean that it won't affect others.

Live, Laugh and Tickle
Sunriseticklee
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What if the shirt said "European and proud"? Well that would be different. That indicates a specific cultural identity and tyhe good ( and bad) that goes along with making you different, as does anything African American oriented. On the Other hand, anything that says "White and proud" or some such thing seems to promote a white is right idea... there is European based culture, just as there is African American ( or "black" as it is generally understood to be ) but there isn't really a "white" culture, per se, so it smackes of favoritism.

On yet the other hand (three hands?) Wearing a "white" shirt, after the anger and name calling dies down, might get a dialog going. Though, being an egotist... I prefer a monolog.....!!
 
A person should be proud of anything they are,or subscribe to,provided
they are honest and without undue malice.Some will not like whatever it is you are "espousing", but that's how it is with everything.
 
You are sadly mistaken if you believe that we use racism as our crutch/ excuse. Every success story proves that we are fighters and overcomers. Our history proves that we have and we will continue to work, to live, to breathe, to make a difference, to reach the top regardless of the odds that are placed in front of us!
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GREAT!

That's what I was trying to say...Blacks CAN, and HAVE, and WILL make it. Barry Bonds, Home Run Champion, isn't shouting that he made it because he's Black. All those years that he didn't hit record breaking home runs...he didn't blame it on him being black and Mark McGwire being white.

YOU said it. You have and will continue to reach the top. Everyone wants to!

HOWEVER...IF, and WHEN you DON'T make it, don't cop out to "it's becau'se I'm Black, and the person that beat me out for a job is white", or any other ethnic reason.

Don't cop out...if you truly "will continue"...then do that. Continue. When I have a better sales month, it's not because I had an unfair advantage. Someone might be better than YOU. Just because you're black and you don't make it doesn't mean it's someone else's fault.

You may see "racist odds" against you. All I'm saying is that this is not 100% of the time. You saying that it's sooooooooo hard for the Blacks all the time, is like saying "White is Right". Your way is the right way and no one will ever show you different.

I am not saying AT ALL to forget your heritage...Just don't relive it day to day! I sit directly across from this black woman at work. ALL day long...I'll hear little things...little murmurings about how it's so unfair, she doesn't have equality, etc.

Look, the Chinese people aren't lamenting every day about how they were forced to work on the railroads in San Francisco...Anyone that's Hispanic aren't bringing up EVERY DAY the fact that their father and grandfater picked vegetables for 14 hours a day at reduced pay just to make it.

The dialog that the two black folks in my unit have is interesting...
Black Woman: Heeeey, what's up with you?
Black Man: Nothin....just tryin to get it done...and you?
Black Woman: Just Slavin...and it won't make a difference.

It's ALWAYS a blame factor. Don't forget your heritage...but don't relive it! No one else is!

By the way...My Grandfather escaped the Russian Iron Curtain in the mid 40's when it closed on Estonia. He had been in a Russian concentration camp and forced to eat clelery soup for weeks on end. He managed to get a former Russian neighbor to hire him from the camp for work. The neighbor had made arrangments for my Grandfather to meet up with his wife and child in Sweden. My Grandfather's other brothers and sister didn't make it out. My Grandfather went to Sweden, then moved to Finland, Canada, then to the U.S. His first job in the U.S. was picking up firewood in the forest near a local campground and selling it so his family could eat.

When he moved to L.A., he had saved enough money to buy a priting press and started an underground newspaper for the Estonians trapped behind the Iron Curtain. Through his 48 years of printing his paper, I NEVER heard him say that he couldn't make it because the Russians took everything he ever owned. He talked about his escape, and about having to fight in the war...He fought on. He made it.

I'm not going to blame my bad sales month because my Grandfather was a prisoner in a war camp. I'm not going to blame my not getting a promotion on my Grandfather's poor beginnings collecting firewood.


Again...don't forget your heritage...just don't live it day to day!
 
Yea

I agree with you perfectly Zebra. Thanks for having the balls to speak the truth. Im sick of *certain* people taking advantage of the past.
 
Actually there are many ethnic groups who feel they have been slighted, and do openly voice their discontentment. I could one day be sitting at an office and hear a white guy bitch because he had a bad sales week, and he deserves better cuz hes white. Blacks arent the only ones who have a complaint, and we dont all vocally protest discontentment. If someone wants to bitch let them , freedom of speech NOT cop out
 
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Why dont kids get off on presidents day?? Because Martin Luther King Jr. Was one man! Who fought for what he believed in. Presidents were and are POLITICIANS!!! no offense to anyone here with that particular profession. As pissed as you are I am MORE pissed you can tattoo KKK on your other arm for all I care. as for "Those old white guys" Who donned a big white hood? whos responsible for thousands of lynchings? who? who? who? "those old white guys" its a two edged sword of truth my friend. Oh and by the way if its stars and bars you have on your arm then you have the confederate BATTLE flag not just flag. If I'm being unreasonable with my posts well then so are you.
 
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Pride?

IMO, you can only be proud of what you have achieved, not of something you're not even responsible for. Nobody can take any merit for the skin color in which he/she is born. Or the nationality, culture, language, or whatever coincidences your birthplace had to offer you.

Over here in old Europe, we have the same problem; just replace 'blacks' by 'immigrants'. There was and still is dicrimination, and there are people who'll tell anybody they're proud to be German, French, English. In Germany, we call those people Neo-Nazis...

Just my 0.02 €.
 
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Yes, Krokus, I wholeheartedly agree. If a Frenchman says 'Proud to be French', it smacks only of cheese and garlic; in England, 'Proud to be English' smacks of Fish & Chips, but in Germany, 'Proud to be German' smacks of Nazi! :shrug

I would still not be proud of being German just because I'm born here coincidentally. But I'd like to be able to SAY it without being discriminated as a Nazi!
 
Here's a news flash for ShiningIce: The folks who sold his ancestors into slavery were Black. It was a big business in Central Africa - do you really think the locals would tolerate competition from foreigners? It was White Europeans, primarily the British, who put a stop to it in the 19th Century.

BTW Hal, go ahead and be proud. Goethe, Schiller, you're in good company.

Strelnikov
 
I know that, It was also the Brittish who colonozed Africa and terrorized it for a about 100 yrs............I never said it was ONLY whit poeple who were guilty, Look My only point is that Scars heal SLOWLY. If you dont accept or like that fact tuff its the way it is. Yeah some black poeple will gripe about the way things USED to be maybe we should just forget and move on, but then again we're only human........
 
In "The New Jedi Order" series of novels, the galaxy is being quite successfully overtaken by an outside species known as the Yuuzhan Vong, with unknown biological technology and a religious fanaticism unknown to the citizen of the galaxy.

The only reason they haven't completely won yet is because of the combined efforts of the Republic, the Jedi, the Hutts, the Imperial Remnant, the Chiss, the Hapans, the Bothans, the Wookies and a myriad of rag-tag multi-species fleets.

Perhaps that's what this planet needs in order for us to get along. To stare death in the face by a common source of annhilation.

Then color ain't such a big thing. See?

Perspective.
 
For about 3 days at the end of September, we were all "just Americans." Or better yet, we were all "just not militant extremists." (For the sake of the other countries represented in the death toll.) I wonder how long it will take before some pathetic statistician with 4 brain cells will spew forth the slimey numbers of how many whites, yellows, blacks, oranges, greens, and purples were killed on which floor of the WTC. IT MATTERS!! IT REALLY MATTERS!
🙄
You can feel sorry for yourself, because you're darker and no one understands. You can feel sorry for yourself becuase you're lighter and no ones understands. Hell, you can feel sorry for youself because you're tall, short, fat, skinny, blind, deaf, deformed, or just plain ugly. 😉 Instead of "sorry," you can feel angry, put-out, proud, what ever word you choose. You can waste all that precious time worrying about the past and when you're dead and BLUE , we'll bury you side by side looking pretty much the same. 😛

You see, it just proves the point that history isn't fact. It's subjective. It's your history and his history. Be mindful of it as not to repeat the mistakes, but don't forget that progress is in front of you and every time you peek over your shoulder at the past, you lose a step in the right direction. Someone should write that on a rock!

Jo....Cajun Mutt 🙂
 
All I know is this: I love to eat, and I love good food. If it weren't for all the ethnic and racial diversity in this world, would we have kung pao chicken, jambalaya, New England clam chowder, barbecued steaks, beef teriyaki, flan, gazpacho, pasta carbonara, Brie, sauerbraten, falafel, basmati rice, that really cool soup you get in Thai restaurants that comes with its own little flaming heater, goulash, hot buttered yams, pita bread, delicatessen meats, chicken Kiev, miso soup, or about a billion other cool things you could name? NO. So, instead of saying something stupid and pissing off the next person in line, kids...SHUT UP AND EAT.

Easter is coming, and THIS Polack intends to have plenty of kielbasa and paska on hand. 🙂
 
Wow! Four intelligent posts in a row! Thanks, folks, I needed that.

Strelnikov




p. s. Glad to see you here again, Daumantas. Where have you been hiding? New job working out OK?

A Fellow Polack,
Strel
 
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