Constructive Advice Sought Please

[Babbles]

I'm hardly conscious so I'll just say

I think the Golden Rule differs with you there...

 

[Fire_Sprite]

Lay off the Golden Rule woman. Its never going to love you back.

 

[LD_Tickler]

I think the Golden Rule differs with you there...

Like I said before, whether or not the Golden Rule prohibits impolite and non-friendly posts in name, in practice, it's used to just weed out flamers. Posting a harsh, frank criticism of somebody in a personal thread that he himself has posted doesn't conflict with the GR as it's practiced. If you don't want to receive honest opinions in public, don't ask for them in public. If you don't want to be criticised, learn from the dozens of other times the exact pattern has played out.

 

[Aimee]

i really wish i could have seen what babbles wrote back about my responses to mitch.
i was waiting for it....

anywaysssss...
since this thread has already gone completely off topic....

if you SERIOUSLY let what one person is saying to you cause ALL OF THIS then i think you need to go get your head looked at.
mitch go look at ALL your posts made these last couple of months.
they end up repetitive. YOU DO say the same things about your father in every thread you make. if you want to take offense by that, fine. but it's just the facts.
and it's not me twisting anything.
mitch you take out whatever part of my post you don't like, refuse to talk to me because you didn't like what you hear, then reply to me that "you're done talking to me" and "its pointless to talk to me".
well...you can do that all you want. be angry. be upset about what i've posted.
but it's the freaking truth.
so. in conclusion, this is ridiculous. mitch's personal thread's are ridiculous.
just a fact.

now seeing as i have a life outside of the TMF.......i'm done with this thread.
(unlike people who claim they'll just "let it die" and then bump it...ha!)

 

[kis123]

Mitch;

I've read and re-read this entire trainwreck of a thread and know what I think? I don't see one troll or flame (although one's really close but I'll get to that one later). But if anyone is flame throwing, it's you; sorry, but I'm not going to stop calling as I see them to make you feel better.

You have told me (and apparently others) that you were going to stop posting your personal issues with your parents, yet we're all here witnessing it again. When others give dissenting opinions or take you to task for breaking your promise to stop posting your personal issues with your parents, you beat them up. Denial is futile, it's all over this thread.

Personally, I think it's time you sought some help other than TMF for these issues; they have consumed you and you are beyond reasoning with on this forum. If you're not hearing what you want, you pull the "troll and flame" card all the while doing the flaming and trolling yourself. Walk away from this thread for a couple of days then come back; you'll be able to see that what I'm saying is correct.

Oh, and keep your promises in the future because your credibility around here is at best compromised, and at worst......I'd rather not say.

Now, about the response I wasn't that crazy about reading......(and yes I know I'm not a mod but I'm calling 'em as I see 'em today)

if you SERIOUSLY let what one person is saying to you cause ALL OF THIS then i think you need to go get your head looked at.

I feel Mitch should seek help as well but I would've found a better way to express that thought.

mitch go look at ALL your posts made these last couple of months.
they end up repetitive. YOU DO say the same things about your father in every thread you make. if you want to take offense by that, fine. but it's just the facts.
and it's not me twisting anything.
mitch you take out whatever part of my post you don't like, refuse to talk to me because you didn't like what you hear, then reply to me that "you're done talking to me" and "its pointless to talk to me".
well...you can do that all you want. be angry. be upset about what i've posted.
but it's the freaking truth.

I agree with these statements with no problem but here's where it gets interesting....

so. in conclusion, this is ridiculous. mitch's personal thread's are ridiculous.
just a fact.

If you truly feel this way, why did you post in the first place? Were you trying to help or was this just a way to take a frustrated whack at him? There are people around here that no matter what their subject matter is, I won't post in their threads because plainly put, I don't like them or the way they think. My time can be better spent watching tv or knitting.

now seeing as i have a life outside of the TMF.......i'm done with this thread.
(unlike people who claim they'll just "let it die" and then bump it...ha!)

I can completely understand being frustrated, but this post IMO equates to kicking a man when he's down and pouring salt in a gaping open wound. If I'm wrong about your intent, I am truly sorry but from my laptop, it looks pretty rough.

 

[kis123]

And another thing........

I read the responses by fire sprite, GQ guy, and Leo; I equate them to a roadmap or blueprint to get you out of this emotional mess you're in. I had to find my own way out and I still struggle at times, but the advice you were given was excellent.

Now what did you do with the advice they took the time to give you? You completely blew them off, told them they didn't understand, and referred to one of the posters as condescending and immature in his repsonses.

Mitch, you clearly are not listening to sound positive advice; you're looking to hear what you want. Or maybe you really don't want to hear anything but the sound of your ranting and raging (yet again) over your father.

I'd generously say that half of the posters on this board have father issues. I've discussed mine on several occasions and times with my stepfather weren't exactly glorious either. But in order for me to move forward and have any success in my life, I had to get in the mirror and start dealing with my issues. I'm a work in progress Mitch, but at least I am working on them.

 

[Mitchell]

leaf, we have been friends for many years. I know that what you said was said out of exasperation. I dont take it as an attack.

kis, again, I dont have a problem if someone gives me a dissenting opinion. Again, its how it is expressed.

Aimee, simply put, you act uncivilized. Thinking back, when I posted my thread about my mom having cancer.. leaf, kis, others who have acted exasperated in this thread, wished me well, hoping things were okay. NEVER did you post saying anything like "Hope your mom gets better". It's just attack.. attack.. attack. Apparently, I've been told thats acceptable, because no edit is done to your attacking post.

" Get your head looked at?" Not an attack? Maybe not from the mods perspective. From mine, you'd have been gone, long ago.

"I have a life outside TMF, and you dont". Not an attack.. uh.. I;d say so.

Tell you what, Aimee. I dont think you could handle my life outside TMF. If you were in my shoes, you'd be a sniveling, crying little wuss. However, since you're sitting in front of your computer, deciding to attack, that is your M.O.

You knew you weren't going to have anything constructive to say, so why the fuck did you post in the first place? Oh, wait. you told me.. "This is a public forum, and you'll say what you want". Apparently, there is no Golden Rule in this thread, or any thread you've posted in of mine.. because no action has been taken against you, and that is why you continue to post the things you do.

I have kept, many, many things off the board in regard to my personal life. This thread was a simple, :"Here are the facts, what would you do if you were in my shoes", and again has turned into attacks. Believe me, Aimee, I know who was being sincere in their advice, and who wasn't. I dont have a problem with things that leaf, kis, certain others, et al, had to post, but with you, you have FUCKING NOTHING constructive to say, except to attack me at every turn. So, why dont you practice the Golden Rule, and do what I do, when someone I dont like, posts something that I have nothing constructive to say in. IGNORE IT, and go on your way. Believe me, we will all be better off if you do.

Mitch

 

[Mitchell]

kis, Leo and LD did give some sound advice. I didnt say GQ was immature. I said that his delivery sounded condescending. There is a difference.

Again, I know you are sincere, so I dont take your advice as an attack.

As for Aimee, to me, one cant defend her posts. She has done nothing but attack me, from day one... She apparently posts to attack, to make herself feel better.

My mom's prognosis is very good, knock on wood, but, I seriously hope I'm no longer with this forum on the day she dies, because, I guarantee, if I were to post that information, and I receive attacking posts from Aimee, Banshee, et al. I will cross the line, and not hold back. At this point, they arent worth getting banned for. At that point, I wont give a fuck anymore.

Mitch

 

[kis123]

kis, Leo and LD did give some sound advice. I didnt say GQ was immature. I said that his delivery sounded condescending. There is a difference.

For starters, his delivery was NOT either condescending or immature. You chose to bypass and dismiss the advice given. I didn't accuse you of directly calling him said names; go back to my post and re-read.

Again, I know you are sincere, so I dont take your advice as an attack.

As you shouldn't. At this point you should be taking my posts as a way of showing you that you're emotionally all over the place and it's clouding sound judgement and reason. I truly do understand your situation but it's "crap or get off the pot" time where these issues are concerned. What you are presently doing is NOT WORKING!

As for Aimee, to me, one cant defend her posts. She has done nothing but attack me, from day one... She apparently posts to attack, to make herself feel better.

Learn to take the bitter with the sweet. There are people who have waited for me to post to start crap with me. It used to be great bait back in the day, but now I chose my battles more carefully. Sometimes I've gone as far as leaving a thread because that person's commentary became way too personal or they admit that they're trying to get a rise out of me. I have better things to invest my emotions in and I don't let people control me in that way. Something you should consider when you start complaining about the trolls. If they are truly trolls, stop feeding them and they will go away and find someone else to harass.

My mom's prognosis is very good, knock on wood, but, I seriously hope I'm no longer with this forum on the day she dies, because, I guarantee, if I were to post that information, and I receive attacking posts from Aimee, Banshee, et al. I will cross the line, and not hold back. At this point, they arent worth getting banned for. At that point, I wont give a fuck anymore.

Mitch

And what good will that do? You'll be banned and they'll keep right on going. People have posted on death/tribute threads before and have been met with some unkind responses. Deal with it should it happen in a mature fashion and let the mods do their jobs.

And yes, exasperated is an accurate word; add "disappointed" to the list as well. We've discussed this extensively and you're not keeping your end of the bargain. Doing the same thing over and over but expecting a different result is the definition of what?? Do something different Mitch because this ain't working.

 

[Mitchell]

kis, just so you know, I happened to tell my mom about starting this thread, and she blasted me to kingdom come about it.

Her response was : "You have a lot of enemies on that forum, and you set yourself up to be attacked. You have no one to blame but yourself. You posted your personal business about your father, which does not belong there, and you gave people fuel to attack you".

So, even the closest person in the world to me, thought I was an idiot for starting this thread.

As for "letting the mods do their jobs". I've already basically been told: "Post personal business on the forum, and expect a response. If you dont like it, tough". I was told this when the last thread about my father went on and on. The mods aren't going to help me. I know that. The only way this thread will go away, is when it dies. From previous experience, that will be in days, or a week, from now.

The funny thing is, until this thread, I had really been keeping a lid on my personal business. With my mom's recent hospital visits, I pmed the two or three people on this forum, who I feel truly give a shit, and left it off the board.

I'm allowed to feel that hopefully I wont be here when something happens to my mom. Or, if it does, I won't post it, because, trust me, it will only end up creating threads like this, which will be justified as "You posted your personal business, so, be prepared for those type of responses". No, not happening.

Mitch

 

[Speedbump]

Mitchell, I don't think you get enough Pop Tarts in your diet.

 

[TropicThunder]

Another thread derailed from the OP.

 

[Mitchell]

Tropic, you are 100% right, my friend. Unfortunately, "staying on topic" doesn't seem to be a priority, or a rule practiced, in a thread like this.

Mitch

 

[TonyInMyThroat]

Your mom is a wise individual Mitch who understands that tough love must be administered from time to time. She’s wrong on one point though, you don’t have enemies here. True enemies seek to attack unprovoked, out of malice; as your mom said, you set yourself up for ridicule. Those you consider “enemies” are only reacting to what they consider bizarre behavior.

It’s crossed my mind more than once wondering if you’re not just some elaborate Charlie Brown type cyber character thought up by a clever writer, to be sold as an idea for a sitcom or even a full length screen play. Is there anyone on the forum who can vouch that you’re for real?

 

[tequila!]

" Get your head looked at?" Not an attack? Maybe not from the mods perspective. From mine, you'd have been gone, long ago.

It's not the first time someone in this thread has suggested you see a psych. Why jump all over this one? Just because she was meaner about it than everyone else? Grow some skin

The funny thing is, until this thread, I had really been keeping a lid on my personal business. With my mom's recent hospital visits, I pmed the two or three people on this forum, who I feel truly give a shit, and left it off the board.

And you should see a psych for amnesia, if nothing else.

 

[Mitchell]

Tony, I dont agree about that. Someone says: "I would like constructive advice about a situation", and another says "Get your head looked at", in such a fashion, how is that not an attack?

Also, trust me, I'm for "real". I wish that a lot of the shit I've posted on this forum hadnt happened to me, but it has.

Once again,tequilla, an attack. Nothing constructive to say, exactly like Aimee. Maybe you should see a psych too, for why you have nothing better to do but make attacking posts.

Mitch

 

[TonyInMyThroat]

Tony, I dont agree about that. Someone says: "I would like constructive advice about a situation", and another says "Get your head looked at", in such a fashion, how is that not an attack?

Also, trust me, I'm for "real". I wish that a lot of the shit I've posted on this forum hadnt happened to me, but it has.

Again, nobody started a thread entitled “Mitch Needs Psychotherapy!”, they’re reacting to your repeated fringe behavior.

And I’m still not convinced you’re for real. You wouldn’t happen to own a Beagle who regularly engages in rather outrageous & eccentric behavior would you?