Debunking Michael Jackson haters

[anime_kitty_gal]

Wow. I must say I'm not surprised.

I have at least tried to get my opinions across in an intellectual manner. I would have expected haters to at least TRY to do the same. Some of you have, in which case I congradulate you for being at least more mature than some people here. The rest of you are just jokes. Instead of arguing your case, you resort to petty insults and dodging questions that were asked of you. This does not surprise me, nor does the fact you do not even research the subject at hand before participating in this discussion. I would highly bet than none of you even researched the trials. Do not deny it, I know full well you never did.

I really don't think some people here have any right to accuse me of being a minor, when you yourselves are acting like minors. If I act like one, it is merely because I would have to lower myself to your level of intelligence so that you would understand what I am saying.

So why don't we have a mature discussion and stop acting like children. What is this; The ATF?

and exactly how many times do I have to mention that the Arvizo's from the 2nd trial have had a history of making false accusations?

 

[herts tickler]

this is a long thread huh?? i bet its FULL of really interesting stuff...yes sir i bet if i was to read this thread through i would have learned alot and changed a particular opinion i may hold...definatly NOT a waste of time no way not this thread...

 

[Carsomyr]

Man, Michael Jackson detractors just don't get it. Why is it the people who believe MJ is a pedophile think their opinions are the right one? You have an obvious MJ fan defending all the hatred towards MJ, which is what people who like the man should do, but yet, people tell her to stop. Isn't her opinion just as valuable as yours? MJ defenders have as much evidence that MJ is NOT a pedophile as those who think he is have.

I think what it boils down to is this: On the one side are the MJ-lovers defending him. They say he's not a pedophile because that is what they WANT to believe. I haven't payed close enough attention to this thread to spot any real haters, but I bet they would argue against the MJ-lovers for the same reasons. Rationality and "proof" is pretty much wasted in this case.

...and then we have all the people in the middle who just can't muster the energy to really "give a fuck" as I believe Jo worded it a couple of pages back. Those people generally just seem to agree that the whole thing is pretty fishy regardless of what is true, and even if MJ is not a pedo they can't defend the things he still actually DID.

You can commence crying yourself to sleep now.

The rest of you are just jokes. Instead of arguing your case, you resort to petty insults and dodging questions that were asked of you.

I really don't think some people here have any right to accuse me of being a minor, when you yourselves are acting like minors. If I act like one, it is merely because I would have to lower myself to your level of intelligence so that you would understand what I am saying.

ARARARWARGARBLE!!!

Ok, whoa, whoa, whoa, I KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS NEED! 😀

 

[vladtickleman22]

Wow. I must say I'm not surprised.

I have at least tried to get my opinions across in an intellectual manner. I would have expected haters to at least TRY to do the same. Some of you have, in which case I congradulate you for being at least more mature than some people here. The rest of you are just jokes. Instead of arguing your case, you resort to petty insults and dodging questions that were asked of you. This does not surprise me, nor does the fact you do not even research the subject at hand before participating in this discussion. I would highly bet than none of you even researched the trials. Do not deny it, I know full well you never did.

I really don't think some people here have any right to accuse me of being a minor, when you yourselves are acting like minors. If I act like one, it is merely because I would have to lower myself to your level of intelligence so that you would understand what I am saying.

So why don't we have a mature discussion and stop acting like children. What is this; The ATF?

and exactly how many times do I have to mention that the Arvizo's from the 2nd trial have had a history of making false accusations?

I knew i recognised you. Welcome back game girl.

 

[Artoo]

I knew i recognised you. Welcome back game girl.

This went through my mind just now as well.

This thread can now be summed up as follows;

 

[Eyeshine]

I am still waiting for this question to be answered. How come people automatically assume sex occurs when people sleep in the same bed? Because of this warped mentality, people believe MJ is a pedophile. Can you please tell me what is wrong with an adult sleeping in the same bed as a child if NO sexual activity, mental or physical, occurs? The ONLY reason why people would condemn an adult sleeping in the same bed as a child is due to the warped mentality of sex MUST occur when people sleep in the same bed. Otherwise, the two parties are just.....sleeping.

You can't refute that.....

Ok, example. Lets say ..Ray Lewis. You are obviously a fan by the picture in your signature. Ray Lewis says that he wants to invite your kids over to his house, and sleep in the same bed with them , but promises that nothing sexual would happen. He has all the money in the world (as MJ did) so don't tell me he cant afford more then one bed for the many bedrooms in his home. You would be ok with that? What has MJ done to prove to you that there is nothing sexual? And if you would be fine with that, how about the random stranger that pulls up in a van and knocks on the door? There is NOTHING IN THE WORLD that in my eyes would prove to be trust worthy enough for ANYONE to need to have children(I cant say mine, because I don't have any) sleeping in the same bed as a grown adult.

Wow. I must say I'm not surprised.

I have at least tried to get my opinions across in an intellectual manner. I would have expected haters to at least TRY to do the same. Some of you have, in which case I congradulate you for being at least more mature than some people here. The rest of you are just jokes. Instead of arguing your case, you resort to petty insults and dodging questions that were asked of you. This does not surprise me, nor does the fact you do not even research the subject at hand before participating in this discussion. I would highly bet than none of you even researched the trials. Do not deny it, I know full well you never did.

I really don't think some people here have any right to accuse me of being a minor, when you yourselves are acting like minors. If I act like one, it is merely because I would have to lower myself to your level of intelligence so that you would understand what I am saying.

So why don't we have a mature discussion and stop acting like children. What is this; The ATF?

and exactly how many times do I have to mention that the Arvizo's from the 2nd trial have had a history of making false accusations?

The proper spelling is congratulate. If other people are correcting your simple spelling errors, then maybe they are ahead of you on your intelligence scale.

We have answered your questions, but because you don't believe that our answers suffice, you don't count them as answers. Just because you don't agree with the answers does not mean that they are not answers.

And yes, anyone here has the right to accuse someone else of being a minor. This is an ADULT fetish forum. Being a member here and being a minor is in violation of the forum's policy.

I knew i recognised you. Welcome back game girl.

This

 

[Deleted member 66627]

I knew i recognised you. Welcome back game girl.

Is she the one who had that huge thread about leaving the TMF that went on for like 8 pages?

 

[Artoo]

Is she the one who had that huge thread about leaving the TMF that went on for like 8 pages?

Yep.

 

[anime_kitty_gal]

Heh, just because you found out who I am, dosen't mean I don't stand by what I said here.

and the fact you guys remember just proves you love me.

 

[Artoo]

Heh, just because you found out who I am, dosen't mean I don't stand by what I said here.

and the fact you guys remember just proves you love me.

True enough on the first point, though I fear the second point might just be due to infamy. 😉

 

[Comfort Eagle]

Heh, just because you found out who I am, dosen't mean I don't stand by what I said here.

and the fact you guys remember just proves you love me.

Holy holy shit.

Never thought you'd come back.

 

[vladtickleman22]

Heh, just because you found out who I am, dosen't mean I don't stand by what I said here.

and the fact you guys remember just proves you love me.

The fact you think your opinion is the right one doesn't mean i don't stand by mine either. However, i didn't remember you. I wasn't even posting here at that point in time. A simple search for ATF here found your "i'm leaving" post. Since both were located in scotland and both talked about the ATF. It was rather easy to make 2+2=4.

The fact you never really left says you love us. Furthermore it says you want some kind of acceptance.

 

[drewskee]

I'm getting a little tired of shitting all these damn gerbils.

 

[anime_kitty_gal]

I'm getting a little tired of shitting all these damn gerbils.

Then stop coming into the thread. Simple as that.

 

[Comfort Eagle]

I'm getting a little tired of shitting all these damn gerbils.

 

[drewskee]

 

[Carsomyr]

Fuck YES! I love that episode!


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[primetime]

Eyeshine, just pay close attention to what I wrote....

As for Ray Lewis. If Ray Lewis called me and said "Can I sleep in the same bed with your kids? Nothing sexual will happen. I will give you a kajillion dollars." I would say no. Why? I want to know his motivation.

Like I wrote in my last post, I would have that line of questioning because I'm thinking sexual activity will occur. Like I said, society automatically assumes sex must occur if people are sleeping together. However, if Ray gave me that same offer, but I could remain in the room with Ray and my kids for a kajillion dollars, then "get your jammies kids!".

The reason why people would say no has to do with 1) Do you trust the person asking you? 2) How well do you know the adult? and 3) People automatically assume sex will occur.

Plus, Michael didn't call parents and state "I want to sleep with your kids in the same bed." I'm sure he said if the kids can sleep at his house overnight. Remember, Michael (in his mind) is a kid, so he is looking for a slumber party, not "Let me molest kids."

Honestly, ask yourself. "Why am I automatically assuming sex occurs when non-related people sleep in the same bed?" I would love to read your honest answer.

Damn Drewskee, how many gerbils do you have up your ass if you keep shitting them out?

 

[drewskee]

Damn Drewskee, how many gerbils do you have up your ass if you keep shitting them out?

Several.

 

[Dussicar]

Heh, just because you found out who I am, dosen't mean I don't stand by what I said here.

and the fact you guys remember just proves you love me.

I'm in the dark here. Who were you before this?

 

[goddess_nemesis]

I'm in the dark here. Who were you before this?

*~Game Girl~*

 

[Dussicar]

*~Game Girl~*

Oh, I remember now!

My sleuthing skills blow Girraffe spewtum.

 

[Tickle Fiend]

Michael Jackson's music will always trump whatever accusations were thrown his way. There's a reason there's this much interest in him 5-months after he died. He's going to live on forever. He's the greatest there ever was.