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do "we" ever think of it as torture?

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SadCuzNotTcklsh

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I see alot of people say stuff like 'i hate being tickled its torture'.
But do any of us (TMFers) consider it torture? How can someone like to be tortured? or is it just interpreted differently for us?
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It can be torture. Being brought to the absolute border of what I can take is part of what makes it exciting for me. So yes, it is possible to enjoy torture.
 
Well, what is torture? How are we defining it? If we're talking about pushing someone to the brink of tolerance, then Rhiannon is totally right. When you're being truly tickle-tortured, you are desperate for it to stop, even if part of you loves it. Does that make us different? Sure, I suppose we're a little (in some cases, more than a little) masochistic to enjoy something others construe as so painful and intolerable.

Then again, others would define torture as inflicting pain and agony in order to gain information or punish someone for past transgressions. While the ideas of that can be fun in a fantasy scenario, if a tickle-phile was kidnapped or arrested, and subjected to tickling as a torture, the "fun" might end quickly.
 
When a girl who is ticklish is placed in bondage and her feet (or other ticklish parts) are being tickled, that can be agony for her, most especially if it is used as torture in such a setting as police or military interrogation, or punishment, as in so many clips and stories on this forum. For a girl who is not a fetishist, the tickling becomes agony and, by extension, torture.
 
Torture is not about pain or discomfort. Torture is about systematically and maliciously destroying
a person on a psychological level. The external stimuli is merely a means to an end.
To make a person comply with you against their will, their will must first be done away with.
Being tickled without consent, ruthlessly and without end becomes ultimately humiliating and degrading,
physical symptoms aside.

For some 'lees, the loss of control can be somewhat humiliating in situations of public tickling anyway.
Imagine being truly and methodically tortured by individuals who had only the worst in mind.
The very nature of tickling involves the 'lee losing control of themselves more and more as the tickling continues
without cessation. Usually in our case this can be very pleasing and arousing, because we enjoy the loss
of control. But in a case where that trust and rapport does not exist between the 'ler and the 'lee it can be
truly agonizing.
 
Not usually, but very rarely the stars will align and my mind, body and lips will all be screaming NO and the only thing I want in world more than for it to stop...is for it to never stop.
 
Skipadeedoodah said:
Not usually, but very rarely the stars will align and my mind, body and lips will all be screaming NO and the only thing I want in world more than for it to stop...is for it to never stop.
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I don't think anyone could have phrased the perfect 'lee response better. 😉
 
There was a time when I felt like tickling was torture, when it went a little too far. I was at a point were I was ready to stop and they kept on going. When you find all my tickle spots I go just crazy and laugh till I cry and almost can't breathe. I was there and really needed a break and they just kept tickling me. That is when it got to a point of hurting. Mainly because I was tied up. I kept pulling to get loose and of course still being tickled I was laughing like crazy, pulling too and gasping for air. I was so sore the next day. I love to be tickled but there are times I can only do it for so long since I am so ticklish.
 
I agree with what's been posted here, but as an addition, keep in mind that there can be some awfully blurry lines between pleasure and pain as well. Not just with tickling or S&M, but even 'regular' sexual experience.

I know that for my part, if I'm close to climax, but I'm held close to the edge for a while, there's a wonderful anticipation of orgasm, but it's almost a little painful after a bit. When the moment comes, the intensity is ramped up and it's almost a relief to release. It's a wonderful sensation, but delayed orgasm can be a kind of torment that I have a bit of a love/hate relationship with.

I think tickling can be the same I love/hate it kind of sensation that can be torturous to someone.

If you think tickling is a torture-only kind of thing (I had a coworker who felt this way), than enjoying it seems to me to be strictly sadism or masochism.
 
It definatly can be torturous (for me personally). Even though I love the sensation and everything about it, I find myself still trying to wiggle free 🙂
 
I agree with what's been posted here, but as an addition, keep in mind that there can be some awfully blurry lines between pleasure and pain as well. Not just with tickling or S&M, but even 'regular' sexual experience.

I know that for my part, if I'm close to climax, but I'm held close to the edge for a while, there's a wonderful anticipation of orgasm, but it's almost a little painful after a bit. When the moment comes, the intensity is ramped up and it's almost a relief to release. It's a wonderful sensation, but delayed orgasm can be a kind of torment that I have a bit of a love/hate relationship with.

I think tickling can be the same I love/hate it kind of sensation that can be torturous to someone.

If you think tickling is a torture-only kind of thing (I had a coworker who felt this way), than enjoying it seems to me to be strictly sadism or masochism.
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so true!
 
There's been a handful of times where I thought that I was basically being cruel and unrealistic and that I should give up the fetish because I thought all it could be would be a selfish obsession with making another human being squirm, but what can I say, it comes and goes, hence why I'm still here.
 
I don't think it's that kind of torture. It's not painful and if you enjoy it that it's sorta defeating the actual meaning of "torture." I think when people say it's torture they mean it's very intense and they like the helpless feeling they are in. They just say it's torture since the phrase "tickle torture" is commonly used so why not say "oh well being tickled is torture." I think some parts can be intense but at the same time I wouldn't want to be tickled if I didn't truly like it.
 
Naughty Summer said:
There was a time when I felt like tickling was torture, when it went a little too far. I was at a point were I was ready to stop and they kept on going. When you find all my tickle spots I go just crazy and laugh till I cry and almost can't breathe. I was there and really needed a break and they just kept tickling me. That is when it got to a point of hurting. Mainly because I was tied up. I kept pulling to get loose and of course still being tickled I was laughing like crazy, pulling too and gasping for air. I was so sore the next day. I love to be tickled but there are times I can only do it for so long since I am so ticklish.
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Got that on tape? Released? :manicd:
 
Exile said:
Torture is not about pain or discomfort. Torture is about systematically and maliciously destroying
a person on a psychological level. The external stimuli is merely a means to an end.
To make a person comply with you against their will, their will must first be done away with.
Being tickled without consent, ruthlessly and without end becomes ultimately humiliating and degrading,
physical symptoms aside.

For some 'lees, the loss of control can be somewhat humiliating in situations of public tickling anyway.
Imagine being truly and methodically tortured by individuals who had only the worst in mind.
The very nature of tickling involves the 'lee losing control of themselves more and more as the tickling continues
without cessation. Usually in our case this can be very pleasing and arousing, because we enjoy the loss
of control. But in a case where that trust and rapport does not exist between the 'ler and the 'lee it can be
truly agonizing.
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Good response. Thanks 🙂
 
Yes it's torture, not that I have anybody shacked in my basement that can verify it... you know... right now (I hate it when they escape). However I have been told it's hell and sometimes unbarable. To that I say "Give me the pin number to your bank card.", hey, I have bills to pay to you know.
 
scorpionldr said:
There's been a handful of times where I thought that I was basically being cruel and unrealistic and that I should give up the fetish because I thought all it could be would be a selfish obsession with making another human being squirm, but what can I say, it comes and goes, hence why I'm still here.
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Well the good thing is that there are like minded people who like to be on the other side of the coin. Eventually you will find somebody who likes to be on the other side of things... mind you they may seek revenge. It's a big, but affordable, price to pay.
 
i like the love/hate comparison. it fits very well. i was once being tickle tortured amongst other things. During one of those other things, i guess i freaked. i don't remember freaking about it, but i think about it a lot, even now. i know that i didn't hate the position i was in or what was being done to me (hindsight, i suppose) but while it was happening i was really scared. so, it feels a bit odd even to me that i want it happen again. maybe to see if i'll freak again, maybe because i think i won't and would like to take it farther, i don't know really. it doesn't freak me out in hindsight.

or, it's like having my feet bit/licked/tickled. it hurts, it feels good, i scream, i laugh. it is such a torrent of emotions that i love to hate. maybe it's because, ultimately i know the person doing it to me is having the time of his life and that's the best feeling in the world for me.
 
TickleToy4You said:
I don't think it's that kind of torture. It's not painful and if you enjoy it that it's sorta defeating the actual meaning of "torture." I think when people say it's torture they mean it's very intense and they like the helpless feeling they are in. They just say it's torture since the phrase "tickle torture" is commonly used so why not say "oh well being tickled is torture." I think some parts can be intense but at the same time I wouldn't want to be tickled if I didn't truly like it.
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I hear you tickleto4you, but the reason I "want to stop" is a lot of people just show a lot of biased fear towards tickling and whoever wants to put it on them.

in that way, even by bringing it up, I am torturing 🙂
 
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