Does Race Still Matters?

[stloldg]

In the year of 2006 does race still matters? Does race matter in this club? First let me say, I have not experience any racism from anyone, and let me be the first to say thank you. In the pass, racism was a big angly part of our history. Because of lack of knowledge we have divided ourselves into Blacks & Whites. Now, with global economy, global trading, the ability to travel from one side of the global to another within a matter of hours. Does race really matters?

We’re all love tickling in one way or another, we’re all would be consider strange, bizarre and other not so nice words. We all have preferences for size, sex, age, body type, or degree of mental insanity. But do we still get hang up on ethnic group?

If you like me live in a sexually, culturally, small minded and depressing part of American where old bible thumpers comes to die. (ST. LOUIS, MISSOURI) yea I said it. Where most people here haven’t outgrown their foolish ideals about different cultures. That there are evil and stupid people in all colors.

They haven’t realized that what ever happen to one will sooner or later happen to the other. We live in a fish bowl call earth and the only way to get away from one another is to die. The Don’t Ask Don’t Tell policy about asking questions of one another so we can to better understand one another is only masking our problems instead of brings us together.

I digress, SORRY!!! pet peeve

Do we as a group of ticklers, ticklees have the same problem as the rest of the country? Or, have we evolved to the next stage of life where we don’t see color but how ticklish, a person is, and how long before that person scream out the safe word?

I personally don’t care about these things, but am I in the minority?

 

[Shred]

Im with ya! Im an equal opportunity tickler.

 

[The Pianist]

Well, I'm pretty sure that science disproved race a little while ago. Something about there being nothing that exclusively differentiates one race from another. Eitherway, its all just predudice and with the whole globalisation thing, its gonna get harder and harder to discriminate (tell the difference I mean) against one race or the other as so many people these days are now 1/2 caucasion, 1/4 asian, 1/8 hispanic, 1/8 african american etc...

That being said... in a partner I still prefer tall asain or tanned girls... but thats just personal preference... and even then... since I'm a tall fair-skinned red-head... its not as if I'm trying to keep my 'race' going.

 

[stloldg]

Well, I'm pretty sure that science disproved race a little while ago. Something about there being nothing that exclusively differentiates one race from another. Eitherway, its all just predudice and with the whole globalisation thing, its gonna get harder and harder to discriminate (tell the difference I mean) against one race or the other as so many people these days are now 1/2 caucasion, 1/4 asian, 1/8 hispanic, 1/8 african american etc...

That being said... in a partner I still prefer tall asain or tanned girls... but thats just personal preference... and even then... since I'm a tall fair-skinned red-head... its not as if I'm trying to keep my 'race' going.

Well Said.

 

[isabeau]

i am sorry to say that i believe race will always be an issue. its sad really that in this day and age there is still prejudice among us. i long for the day when people arent described by the color of their skin but just as human beings. like she is a white female, he is a black male .

isabeau

 

[Redmage]

I think that the tickling community reflects the entire spectrum of culture. The only thing that unites is a love of tickling, and even there we don't always approach it in the same ways. Outside that shaky unity we're as diverse as the cultures we're drawn from.

I'm not much concerned with race in my partners - they've come from all races over the years. But I'm certain that there are tickle-fans who do select by race, either in the ones they prefer or in the ones they dislike.

 

[stloldg]

Also please let me say that if you do have a preference because of RACE, i do not hold any ill feelings toward you. It's a personal choice and GOD Knows you have the right to make it. I will be the first to stand with you on your decision if I agree with it or not.

I think that the tickling community reflects the entire spectrum of culture. The only thing that unites is a love of tickling, and even there we don't always approach it in the same ways. Outside that shaky unity we're as diverse as the cultures we're drawn from.

I'm not much concerned with race in my partners - they've come from all races over the years. But I'm certain that there are tickle-fans who do select by race, either in the ones they prefer or in the ones they dislike.

 

[Knox The Hatter]

Here's a disturbing aspect of human nature: if it wasn't race that still mattered, they'd find something else.

 

[natural tickler]

To me, it never mattered; I cannot understand disliking people for the color of their skin, and unfortunately, there are people who still do. But as for me, love is universal, it has no color. We all breathe the same air, drink the same water, bleed the same blood. We are all brothers and sisters here

 

[Mz Chaos]

Being a mixed breed that I am... I don't see colors... I see people.
My dad was Spanish and Native American, my mom is German/Dutch, French and Scottish.
Growing up, and into adulthood, both sides of my family treated me negatively for having the blood of the other. It's one thing for society to dislike a race, but when it's your own family, it opens your eyes a lot faster and you tend to look at things in an entirely different light.
Folks are just... folks.

 

[Mastertank1]

Equal oportunity here

The women who have granted me the priviledge of tickling them over the 52 years I've done it have included every major racial group; Black, White, East Asian, South Asian, Native American,Hispanic. I'm grateful to them all.
The least good tickling I ever got to do to a woman was great, 😉 and the worst sex I ever had with a woman was terriffic. Race? Who Cares! I don't!

Mastertank1

We who play and dance are thought mad by they who hear no music.

 

[kis123]

I have to agree with isabeau on this one. People make race matter then perpetuate it by passing it to their children. I written about this several times and am usually accused of being racist myself. Well that's pretty interesting since one of my children is with a white man and my family is multiracial. But people have the right to assume whatever stupid assumptions they can muster. I'm not so naive (like a couple of folks I've jousted with in the past) to believe that because I've dated, married, or had kids with white men that it makes me more "acceptable" in that world. I just won't sugar coat the truth and the truth is that racism will ALWAYS exist in some form. There are people that will make assumptions and prejudices and will never accept me simply over the color of my skin. It's pretty friggin' pathetic considering all of the strides and advances made in other areas.

Here's some examples of 21st century racism:

My daughter is 16 years old. She attends a school in the western suburbs of OH. Her classmates and basketball teammates give her grief on a constant basis over race. One of her "teammates" told her "hey cornrows (referrering to her braided hair), get on the back of the bus!" They actually thought it was funny and wondered why she walked off the bus. One day she walked into an arguement between two students and she was the subject of the debate. Someone said "it's okay, she's only half black!" I'll spare all of you the theory that there's a difference between blacks like Michael Jordon or Shaq and "N*****s" like everyone else!

It is unfortunate that adults dump their trash on their children and that racism along with other social garbage will always be an issue because of it. It just carries from generation to generation.

 

[isabeau]

To me, it never mattered; I cannot understand disliking people for the color of their skin, and unfortunately, there are people who still do. But as for me, love is universal, it has no color. We all breathe the same air, drink the same water, bleed the same blood. We are all brothers and sisters here

i love this guy i really really do great answer NT xoxoxo

isabeau

 

[stloldg]

FX reality series Black / White

FX will start a series called Black / White, where they take a white family and turn them black, and take a black family and turn them white.

The power of make-up. It's starts on March 8, it will be very interesting to see how it turns out. This will be one reality show I will watch.

 

[chicago]

I sat in on my friend's Biology lecture the other day. Her teacher said that everyone is so interconnected and so many interracial marriages and whatnot that in a few thousand years, he suspects it will be very hard to guess what nationality a person is by looking at them.

 

[MrMacphisto]

Here's a disturbing aspect of human nature: if it wasn't race that still mattered, they'd find something else.

I concur... At this point, class makes a bigger difference than race -- at least in America.

 

[chicago]

I just did a paper on Affirmative Action and found out that even though it was originally made during the civil rights movement to help blacks, that now it's expanded to cover other races like hispanic, native american, and asian in some cases so that now almost 70 percent of the united states qualifies for affirmative action. I mean, Hillary Clinton said she was 1/128th black as part of her Senate campaign. We're all minorities. Yay.

 

[wendynpeter]

I concur... At this point, class makes a bigger difference than race -- at least in America.

I disagree. I don't think we discriminate so much on the basis of class. Some people hate poor people because they are poor, but those people are assholes and thankfully, there are not many of them. I don't think we discriminate so much on the basis of race either, except (as Ticklishgiggle rightly points out) via affirmative action - which is the last legalized form of racial discrimination left in America. But in terms of what most people are talking about when they talk about race, class and culture, it's just that both class and race are closely tied to culture and (more importantly) sub-culture, and that's the locus of our problem (if it is a problem).

I think it seems like we discriminate on the basis of race and class because some poor minorities are members of subcultural groups that are regularly discriminated against.

 

[kis123]

I sat in on my friend's Biology lecture the other day. Her teacher said that everyone is so interconnected and so many interracial marriages and whatnot that in a few thousand years, he suspects it will be very hard to guess what nationality a person is by looking at them.

Few thousand years??

Come to my city as well as a couple of places throughout my state-I can barely tell who's who around here!

On the surface, race doesn't seem to matter to younger and upcoming generations. But there are enough of the "old guard" still around to remind us that it does matter and many of them are passing the torch to their kids.

As I've said before, racism is alive and well around here no matter what has been done to water it down or cover it up.

 

[isabeau]

Few thousand years??

Come to my city as well as a couple of places throughout my state-I can barely tell who's who around here!

On the surface, race doesn't seem to matter to younger and upcoming generations. But there are enough of the "old guard" still around to remind us that it does matter and many of them are passing the torch to their kids.

As I've said before, racism is alive and well around here no matter what has been done to water it down or cover it up.

i so agree with that, kis. and as long as some of the so called old guard continues to pass that torch to their kids, race will always be an issue. in my state alone, i am sorry to say, the KKK is alive and well... and run i might add by younger men not just the old guys.

isabeau

 

[kis123]

I just did a paper on Affirmative Action and found out that even though it was originally made during the civil rights movement to help blacks, that now it's expanded to cover other races like hispanic, native american, and asian in some cases so that now almost 70 percent of the united states qualifies for affirmative action. I mean, Hillary Clinton said she was 1/128th black as part of her Senate campaign. We're all minorities. Yay.

Another example how something designed to help disenfranchised blacks has been watered-down so almost everyone can take advantage of it. Many people run through their family tree so they can take advantage of programs designed for Native Americans, so this isn't new.

I say, either use it for those it was initially designed to help, or to get rid of it. I have mixed feelings about this because unfortunately, if something's not in place legally, many companies/corporations won't consider qualified and capable people of color in their offices.

Case in point: My current job has a sales staff of 40 people. Out of those 40, I am the only black female (first one hired in 19-yr history of company) and one of only two blacks on the staff. The type of work I do doesn't require specialized training or skills and basically many can do what I do relatively easily. Every word I speak gets scrutinized, every action gets monitored. Don't let a situation arise where I'm seen speaking to the black gentleman who works with us......it's a cross between a hook-up and a conspiracy theory! If it wasn't so pathetic, it would be laughable!

We had to work on Martin Luther King Day-everyone thought we'd be upset (and my coworker was because he's ex-government and used to having that day off). I figured it this way-what better day to work at a job I might not have gotten if not for his efforts?

There will always be people who will make general assumptions regarding groups of people. There will always be someone who watch way too much tv and believe everything they've ever heard about certain groups of people. That's just the way it is I guess.

 

[stloldg]

I just did a paper on Affirmative Action and found out that even though it was originally made during the civil rights movement to help blacks, that now it's expanded to cover other races like hispanic, native american, and asian in some cases so that now almost 70 percent of the united states qualifies for affirmative action. I mean, Hillary Clinton said she was 1/128th black as part of her Senate campaign. We're all minorities. Yay.

Don't forget females are consider an minority ALL FEMALES.

 

[wendynpeter]

Another example how something designed to help disenfranchised blacks has been watered-down so almost everyone can take advantage of it.

Actually, it's an example of how a policy designed to help disenfranchised blacks has been amped up to include boatloads of additional people, instead of being eliminated when the goal for which it was created has been reached and its purpose has been served. People should take serious note of this, because legislators do. If it's impossible to get rid of a program after it has done its job, legislators will be unwilling to vote for new programs to help set things right when the need arises.

 

[kis123]

Actually, it's an example of how a policy designed to help disenfranchised blacks has been amped up to include boatloads of additional people, instead of being eliminated when the goal for which it was created has been reached and its purpose has been served. People should take serious note of this, because legislators do. If it's impossible to get rid of a program after it has done its job, legislators will be unwilling to vote for new programs to help set things right when the need arises.

It's been watered down considerably from its original purpose. Now just about everyone can utilize it. Either use it for the intended people or get rid of it!! It's just another way to weaken its strength until its purpose becomes irrelevent. And they're doing a good job of it too, aren't they?

 

[ticklingfeet4fu]

To me, it never mattered; I cannot understand disliking people for the color of their skin, and unfortunately, there are people who still do. But as for me, love is universal, it has no color. We all breathe the same air, drink the same water, bleed the same blood. We are all brothers and sisters here

Well stated my friend. To me, race should NEVER matter. Does it? Probably because people are uneducated. I think background has a lot to do with that. In my opinion, my father who will be 81 in April IS RACIST. He says no. I have black friends and all is what he will say. I watch how he treats people. He throws the "N" word around to much for my liking. My youngest brother got married in June of 2005. My father and mother DID NOT attend though they were invited. Why? Because she was black. Yet she is one of the sweetest ladies I have ever met in my life. Sadira and I went and had a GREAT time and stood by my brother because he was marrying a sweet lady. Had nothing to do with color. Unfortunately, racism does still exist. Unfortunate for me it exist a little closer to home than I would like it to. Fortunately for me, I want no part of it. As Natural said, love is universal and has no color. If we can educate the rest of the world to understand that fact then this would be a better place for everyone to live and exist in harmony.