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drew70's guide to successful TMF posting

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Finding yourself unpopular? Ignored? Shunned, even? Well now you can put all that behind you! Just follow these 10 simple principles and you'll be emptying out your PM box on a weekly basis!

Grammar and spelling – We all make typos from time to time, but at least make the effort to keep your posts looking clean and smart. Proper capitalization and punctuation are musts. It’s also important to split your post up into paragraphs complete with a topic sentence. I guarantee more people will read them and feel inclined to respond.

Be specific in your thread titles – Few things are more irritating than non-specific thread titles like "I was wondering...." or "Need help! Please read!" Your title should summarize what the thread is about. If the new thread is a question, then boil that question down to it's basic, and ask it in the title. Use the body of the post to expand on the details. And Guys? Whatever you do, NEVER start a thread titled, "Question for the ladies..." You might as well stand in a crowd and shout “I NEED SOME FEMALE ATTENTION, PLEEEEASE!” You might be thinking, “Hey, I just want to get the female perspective,” but trust me, it sends a message of desperate losership like wearing a baseball cap backwards.

Never bump a buried thread, especially one you yourself started – This is especially obnoxious when you bump the thread by posting only the word “bump” perhaps follwing it with the bump smilie. Used car salesmen wearing bright plaid sportcoats are less tacky. Chrisheaven, I really hope you’re reading this.

Avoid chatroom-type abbreviations – LOL, ROFL, and LMAO are pretty universal and well established. They come across okay in a thread, but anything beyond those are just exercises in laziness. Reserve FWIW, IDK, and AFAIK for live chat, where the time it takes to type actually matters.

Avoid broken java codes – Unless you want everybody to know you just browsed into the TMF from Yahoo Teen Chat, don’t embarrass yourself with bogus attempts at ASCII smilies like XD or ^_^. The TMF has a more-than-adequate supply of working smilies without resorting to that silly shit.

Never respond to a thread with just a smilie or LOL – This really shows a profound lack of imagination as well as apathetic indifference. If you don’t have anything better to say, don’t bother responding.

Never report a post to a moderator, unless it’s spam advertising – We’re all adults here. If you find yourself involved in a conflict, exercise a little personal fortitude and try to resolve it yourself. If you’re not so inclined, simply walk away from it. This practice of whining to the moderators that Tickler Joe was mean to me is a little too Romper Room for an adult forum, when you think about it.

Avoid lame attempts to look cool with inappropriate plurality – I don’t know where this dumbass trend started but it has got to go. I’m talking about phrases like “Oh noes!” or “Hellz no!” This is the epitome of loserspeak. It sends the message of idiocy as clearly as wearing a baseball cap backwards.

When responding to clips, talk about the actual content, not alternative scenes you’d like to see – This kind of shit gets really old. “This would be better if she were wearing nylons.” Well, she wasn’t wearing nylons, so quit your bitching and deal with it. And in most F/M clip posts, its almost inevitible that some douchebag will ask if the guy gets “revenge.” The answer is no, he doesn’t. He tries, but he’s easily overpowered by the woman who publically humiliates him and tickles him even more vigorously.

Never announce that you are ignoring somebody – It can’t be stressed enough. This is probably the single most immature act one can perform in an online forum. If you want to ignore somebody, just do it. You may think it’s a burn on the guy you’re ignoring to make such an announcement but it isn’t. It only makes you look petulent and socially inept, especially if it comes on the heels of a heated discussion. It’s the virtual equivalent of putting your hands over your ears and singling loudly, “LA LA LA LA. I CAN’T HEAR YOUUUU!!”
 
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This is actually the only point I fully disagree with......
Never report a post to a moderator, unless it’s spam advertising – We’re all adults here. If you find yourself involved in a conflict, exercise a little personal fortitude and try to resolve it yourself. If you’re not so inclined, simply walk away from it. This practice of whining to the moderators that Tickler Joe was mean to me is a little too Romper Room for an adult forum, when you think about it.

Handling abusive posts yourself only leads to flame wars and the original point of the thread is usually lost or buried....

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Interesting thread, Drew. It'll be "successful" insofar as it'll generate a good number of responses, I suspect... Admittedly, my 10 Guidelines list would have been entirely different :devil:, but this is definitely worth a look. 🙂
 
I agree with most points on Drew's list, except for the reporting posts one, which I have to agree with Venray about. I'm less sensitive to things then I used to be, but, if someone is going to post something like "Mitchell is a fucking asshole for posting (Whatever)". Or: "Mitchell sucks for posting this", those type of posts deserve to be reported. I realize that in places like the P and R, one has to allow more latitude, because of the highly charged nature of the topics in there.

Interesting list, Drew.

Mitch
 
Avoid lame attempts to look cool with inappropriate plurality – I don’t know where this dumbass trend started but it has got to go. I’m talking about phrases like “Oh noes!” or “Hellz no!” This is the epitomy of loserspeak. It sends the message of idiocy as clearly as wearing a baseball cap backwards.

But I gotta!

There are only three things that I take pleasure of in life.

1. Helping old ladies cross the street.

2. Praying for all the children in the world to gather and sing a song of world peace.

3. Speaking net-tard on teh interwebz.

Most people do it to mock those who use net-speak exclusively, and I'm quite sure the backlash originated from the infamous "im in ur base killin ur doods" incident.
 
Most people do it to mock those who use net-speak exclusively, and I'm quite sure the backlash originated from the infamous "im in ur base killin ur doods" incident.

Ahem. That's "im in ur base killin ur d00dz". Get a spell checker already! 😉
 
lol Dussicar, my 1337-speak skills sometimes pop in the darndest of places too.

^ ^ (show me the smilie for this one and I'll stop using it!)
 
Grammar and spelling

Be specific in your thread titles

Excellent suggestions. More people should follow them.

Never bump a buried thread, especially one you yourself started

I disagree with this as a blanket rule. Sure, bumping your own dead thread with "bump" is tacky and lame. But on a busy day, it's a very easy for even a moderately active thread to fall off the first page, and thus may be legitimately bumped back to the front page with a contentful post. And even older threads can be legitimately bumped when there is something new to add to that conversation.

Avoid chatroom-type abbreviations

Avoid broken java codes

Avoid lame attempts to look cool with inappropriate plurality

I think these are a generational thing. The things you refer to are the normal mode of writing for anyone under about 25 years old. They grew up on Internet instant messaging and cell phone texting, so to them, it looks and feels completely natural and normal. There was an interesting article a few years back about teachers who were getting frustrated because their students were turning in papers with u, r, ur, b, 2, r, b4, etc. Even after proofreading the students didn't notice these kinds of abbreviations because they were so ingrained and natural to them.

Complaining about these things will only make you look like an crochety old fogey.

Never respond to a thread with just a smilie or LOL

I agree.

Also never respond with just "I agree." 🙂

Never report a post to a moderator, unless it’s spam advertising

Like the other posters in this thread, I'm afraid I have to disagree strenuously with this point.

Drew, I know that you personally wish this was the unfettered Wild West of Usenet days, but its not. This is a moderated forum, and most people don't like flame wars.

Without moderator intervention a single heated post can easily break out into a full out flame war. And if a flame war has been ranging for a long time, once it does come to moderator attention, it can be far easier for them to nuke the entire thread than to tease out the good posts from the bad. And when that happens everybody loses. All the good-faith posts in the thread are deleted right along with the vitriol and insults.

I think all the moderators would agree that they would prefer that people report questionable posts when the first appear.
 
"Never report a post to a moderator, unless it’s spam advertising"

Mod-time chime-in. This is a user suggestion, not a TMF guideline by any means. We actually do encourage the reporting of abusive threads. It would be NICE if we could all just limit our reporting to spam, but unfortunately this is not possible on a forum such as ours.

That being said, I do agree with Drew to a point. Running to a Mod everytime someone says something you just don't agree with and making us all go through full inboxes of the "Bobby's touching me!" variety makes for cranky Mods. And "rules-lawyers" are really more of a hinderance than a help to the Staff. Not to mention the pain-in-the-ass factor. However, gross GR violations, and the repoting of a thread that our small Staff might overlook when it starts to get out of hand is encouraged by the TMF staff.

Carry on. :triangle:

(P.S. I am complete agreement with Drew on the clips posting suggestion. I could go on for pages on that one.)
 
This is actually the only point I fully disagree with......


Handling abusive posts yourself only leads to flame wars and the original point of the thread is usually lost or buried....
Sure, if you resort to the same blatant violations in your responses, and allow yourself to be steered off-topic. There ARE other (and better) options, I assure you. 🙂

Sorry, Ray. I love you man, and I'm really glad you're back; but this is one point on which we're likely not going to see eye to eye, buddy. I could never in good faith ever recommend reporting abusive posts to the mods.

These principles I've outlined are my own personal keys to SUCCESSFUL posting. The whole Romper Room aspect aside, tattling to the mods is an indication of a colossal FAILURE to address and deal with such issues in a confident and mature fashion. I mean, come on. If an irritable neighbor calls you a worthless loser, are you seriously going to call the police?

I'm not recommending starting flame wars or breaking the TMF rules of conduct. I'm just saying that there are far more mature and constructive ways of dealing with negative comments than tattling; even if it's just to ignore them and move on. Just because the administrative structure of the TMF is designed to handle us like children playing on a playground, it doesn't mean we have to act that way.
 
Very good list. I'd at least partly agree with every point on here. Some maybe more as guidelines than hard rules, but all have a good reason behind them.

Drew, would you object to others posting their own guides? I don't have any myself, but I confess that capnmad's post got me wondering what's on his list.

Grammar and spelling: Yes, yes, a thousand times yes.

Be specific in your thread titles: Full agreement here too. Try to put yourself in the reader's shoes. Sure, you know how deliciously perfect your post is, but no one else does. Help them to find out.

Never bump a buried thread, especially one you yourself started: Perhaps a smidge of disagreement here in at least one specific case. There are some stories that I've really enjoyed and never would've found if someone hadn't bumped them. I'd also say it's important to say what a bump is and isn't. Substantive response to another user's post? Adding new information/content to a thread? Not bumps in my book, even to old threads. Tacking on "Bump" or "Why didn't anyone respond?" to a dead thread? That's a bump. (Oh, and asking why this link to a video from 5 years ago doesn't work anymore? That's worse than a bump.)

Avoid chatroom-type abbreviations: This might be a generational thing and I might just be getting crochety and old, but I kinda agree. If you want me to take the time to read it, take the time to write it well. (Also see grammar and spelling.)

Avoid broken java codes: Less important for me. I agree, but it doesn't bug me as much. I just tend to overlook such posts. Then again, this is advice on how posters can avoid being overlooked, so...

Never respond to a thread with just a smilie or LOL: The flip side of the "take the time to write it well" bargain. Someone else took the time to write something that moved you enough to respond. Do them the same courtesy.

Never report a post to a moderator, unless it’s spam advertising: As others have said, this is the one I agree with least. There's a solid nugget here: Don't whine over every little disagreement. But like many, I appreciate that this is a moderated forum, and think it's fine to ask for moderation...in moderation.
 
Drew, would you object to others posting their own guides? I don't have any myself, but I confess that capnmad's post got me wondering what's on his list.

LOL! Well, to be honest, I saw Drew's title and figured I was going to find something silly and sarcastic, and lo and behold, the man's being serious, so automatically, my mind was thinking up what would be on my sarcastic version of this, based on observations of what gets responses here, what sort of behaviors forums like this tend to reinforce, and why...

Ultimately, sarcasm of the kind I was considering has altogether too much tendency to be taken poorly and rub folks the wrong way, so I decided against it. But thanks for the interest. 🙂
 
tickledgirl said:
Drew, would you object to others posting their own guides? I don't have any myself, but I confess that capnmad's post got me wondering what's on his list.
Though our good Captain has already responded, my answer is yes. I invite any interested parties to add to this list in addition to all the subtracting that's being done. :jester:
[Never bump a buried thread, especially one you yourself started]
I disagree with this as a blanket rule. Sure, bumping your own dead thread with "bump" is tacky and lame. But on a busy day, it's a very easy for even a moderately active thread to fall off the first page, and thus may be legitimately bumped back to the front page with a contentful post.
Well yeah, sure. A thread can move to page 2 or 3 in the space of a day or two. I don't consider that "buried." I'm talking about threads that haven't seen a post in months or even years suddenly re-appearing.

Icycle said:
And even older threads can be legitimately bumped when there is something new to add to that conversation.
Like the kilt threads, for example? 😉 I suppose you have a point, but I've rarely seen it done legitimately. I'd still have to maintain my original recommendation to avoid doing it.

Icycle said:
[Avoid chatroom-type abbreviations

Avoid broken java codes

Avoid lame attempts to look cool with inappropriate plurality]


I think these are a generational thing. The things you refer to are the normal mode of writing for anyone under about 25 years old. They grew up on Internet instant messaging and cell phone texting, so to them, it looks and feels completely natural and normal. There was an interesting article a few years back about teachers who were getting frustrated because their students were turning in papers with u, r, ur, b, 2, r, b4, etc. Even after proofreading the students didn't notice these kinds of abbreviations because they were so ingrained and natural to them.
All that may be true, but it doesn't make it look any less retarded. And looking retarded is a major hindrance to successful TMF posting in my book. The recommendation stands

Icycle said:
Complaining about these things will only make you look like an crochety old fogey.
Who's complaining? I'm just offering advice on successful posting. 🙂

Icycle said:
[Never report a post to a moderator, unless it’s spam advertising]
Like the other posters in this thread, I'm afraid I have to disagree strenuously with this point.
I know it's asking a lot from you - to lay down your strongest tool for handling adversity, and I realize that for you and some others who rely on this tool exclusively, it may seem to be asking too much. All I'm saying is that if you want to be a successful poster, you really need to handle things in a more mature fashion or suffer the fate of being shunned as a loser/whiner/crybaby.

Icycle said:
Drew, I know that you personally wish this was the unfettered Wild West of Usenet days, but its not. This is a moderated forum, and most people don't like flame wars.
By "unfettered" you mean "free" don't you? We were all free to say what we wanted to say without Big Brother editing our words. So yes, I take no shame in my view that it was a much better way than a controlled and censored environment.

Icycle said:
Without moderator intervention a single heated post can easily break out into a full out flame war.
LOL. You say that as if A) that's the worse thing in the world that could happen; and B) It never happens even WITH moderator intervention. Even without abusive name-calling and insulting, we still have long raging arguments and heated discussions. We still have discussions that veer away to off-topic tangents. I personally don't see the gain value in giving up freedom of speech so that the moderators can erase comments that everybody is freely capable of ignoring on their own.

Icycle said:
And if a flame war has been ranging for a long time, once it does come to moderator attention, it can be far easier for them to nuke the entire thread than to tease out the good posts from the bad. And when that happens everybody loses. All the good-faith posts in the thread are deleted right along with the vitriol and insults.
If you're concerned about over-burdening the moderators, then we're in agreement. I'm for leaving them out of it altogether. I'm sorry, but I really got a chuckle when I read your words "When that happens, everybody loses." Don't you see? "That" can ONLY happen in a moderated forum. By chosing a system of speech control and censorship, we've ALREADY lost our most valuable commodity: Freedom of expression without fear of repression. Anything we lose after that is pretty insignificant.

This thread wasn't to be about the pros and cons of forum moderation. What I've said here is going to be the extent to which I indulge this tangent. To bring it back on topic, a successful poster won't provoke moderator intervention by tattling, but will do his part to maintain the peaceful continuity of the thread in a mature and adult fashion.

Icycle, I couldn't help notice you didn't comment on this one...

Never announce that you are ignoring somebody

Any particular reason you skipped over it? I'd really be interested in your comments. 😉
 
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Grammar and spelling

Be specific in your thread titles

Never respond to a thread with just a smilie or LOL

Agreed, 100%.

Never bump a buried thread, especially one you yourself started

Avoid chatroom-type abbreviations

Avoid lame attempts to look cool with inappropriate plurality

Qualified agreement, for reasons that other people have already pointed out.

Avoid broken java codes

You know what that made me think of? 😱 There's a frequent TMF poster who I used to correspond with regularly via PM, before we eventually switched to e-mail. Once that happened, I occasionally found myself typing :devil2 or :blush into the text of my message, figuring he could just insert the appropriate smiley in his head. 😛 It's just another piece of the puzzle of how our written communication is evolving with new technologies and trends. Anyway, [/sidenote]. 😀

Never report a post to a moderator, unless it’s spam advertising

Never announce that you are ignoring somebody

I believe those opinions are only(?) popular among those who want to be able to flame others with impunity. "I should to be able to insult whoever I want, whenever I want, and they should have to read it, because the moderators should leave my flames alone for everyone to see." Sorry, but no. Surfing the TMF is leisure for most of us, not work, and people are generally interested in a positive user experience. Some posts deserve to be reported. Some people deserve to be ignored, and unfortunately, many of them suffer from last-word-itis. Once a conversation has passed the point of civility and/or rationality, and is basically just going around in ever more hostile circles, it's perfectly reasonable to depart, and to let the other person know that this conversation is over. Sometimes, that's the only thing that manages to get through. 😉
 
Never report a post to a moderator, unless it’s spam advertising – We’re all adults here. If you find yourself involved in a conflict, exercise a little personal fortitude and try to resolve it yourself. If you’re not so inclined, simply walk away from it. This practice of whining to the moderators that Tickler Joe was mean to me is a little too Romper Room for an adult forum, when you think about it.

Actually, underage content should also always be reported. Otherwise, you gave great advice. 😀
 
Great Thread Drew !


*awkward pause*



Ermm..


LULZ ZOMG R U FOR CEREALZ?!

😵 >< n_n




:justlips::upsidedow:woot::wavingguy:fish:<<<<----
 
...I'm not sure where to begin.

I really don't understand such difficulties with spelling and grammar and symbols...If I can understand what the poster is trying to say then the post is significant...There is a diverse population here. Some may not possess the education or abilities that others have. There are going to be people with higer IQ's and people with emotional issues and people with disabilites of one sort or another. In other words, not everyone is posting with poor sentence structure on purpose...that may be the best that they can do. On a forum that is celebrating or sharing something that is "different" these issues sure scream out...."be like me or we don't want to hear from you". We have mods here to keep the forum within boundaries...passing a basic writing exam is not in the rules for entry.

One more thing.....There is absolutely no guarantee that posting within these guidelines will make a poster a more noticed or popular person here. I fit very nicely within these guidelines and my posts are not commented on most of the time and my PM box is not even close to full....and I am a woman....So that blows that theory. The only time my PM box got a lot of attention was when I brought some sexual content into a post.

I think that these issues are trying to take a wide open forum and introduce rigidity.......how far do you go?
 
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Don't worry tickles..tis just Drew70's view of a more perfect forum...

Much as i love the man, we butt heads on a regular basis in disagreement....


:hipoke:
 
Hmm, can't help myself, but that's quite an interesting list for someone who's so much into 'freedom of expression' 😉 😀

As long as someone is friendly, respectful, open minded and fun to talk to they basically are a successful poster IMO.
 
Once a conversation has passed the point of civility and/or rationality, and is basically just going around in ever more hostile circles, it's perfectly reasonable to depart, and to let the other person know that this conversation is over. Sometimes, that's the only thing that manages to get through. 😉
You know, I'll let you in on a little secret. I've found that when I want to end a conversation I employ a little known strategy that's even more effective than announcing a new arrival to my ignore list...I simply stop responding. Yeah. Who'd have thought it could be so simple? Crazy I know, but I've yet to see this strategy fail to "get through" to somebody that a conversation has ended. Also, it leaves me free to respond to that person's future posts without the embarrassment of explaining how and why I'm responding to someone I previously vowed to ignore. 😉

Hmm, can't help myself, but that's quite an interesting list for someone who's so much into 'freedom of expression' 😉 😀
Interesting in what way, I wonder? I mean, surely there's a big difference between imposing forced compliance under threat and promoting suggested guidelines for successful posting. While I do feel that people should should be free to express themselves any way they want, even if that way is rude and obnoxious; that doesn't mean I'm going to recommend them to do so. Similarly, while I recommend these particular guidelines for successful posting, I would never want them to be enforced as rigid requirements, subject to disciplinary action upon failure to comply.

Do you see the difference?
 
Like the kilt threads, for example? 😉 I suppose you have a point, but I've rarely seen it done legitimately. I'd still have to maintain my original recommendation to avoid doing it.

Thanks for clarifying. I would agree that bumping a dead thread is not a good idea if the bump is devoid of content and the thread has little or no participation beyond the original poster.

All that may be true, but it doesn't make it look any less retarded. And looking retarded is a major hindrance to successful TMF posting in my book. The recommendation stands.

As someone who is over 25 myself, many of those IMing and texting abbreviations get on my nerves too. And I would agree that anyone who wants to successfully communicate with an audience that includes folks over 25 would be well advised to use standard written English. The leet-speak and abbreviations will just confuse or annoy the older folks and detract from the message that is being delivered.

Who's complaining? I'm just offering advice on successful posting. 🙂

I never said you were. But I long ago gave up fighting that battle. As an amateur linguist and a descriptivist, I just acknowledge that these new abbreviations are part of the evolution of English.

I know it's asking a lot from you - to lay down your strongest tool for handling adversity, and I realize that for you and some others who rely on this tool exclusively, it may seem to be asking too much. All I'm saying is that if you want to be a successful poster, you really need to handle things in a more mature fashion or suffer the fate of being shunned as a loser/whiner/crybaby.

As you frequently do, you seem to be skirting right along the edge of GR violations, trying to imply that I'm immature, or a loser/whiner/crybaby, but coming just short of saying it outright, because you know that to do so would be a violation.

In any case, I've learned from several past experiences the most important reason for reporting posts to the mods. More than once, a thread that I was passionately involved in got deleted in its entirety due to a flamewar that got out of hand. In a subsequent thread about the nuking, the mods explicitly said that they way to prevent threads from getting nuked is to report a probable violation as soon as it occurs.

By "unfettered" you mean "free" don't you? We were all free to say what we wanted to say without Big Brother editing our words. So yes, I take no shame in my view that it was a much better way than a controlled and censored environment.

And you are still free to participate in the unfettered Wild West of Usenet if you want to. Many of us here on the TMF like the fact that the mods are around to maintain a level of civility that certain members of our community are unable to maintain on their own. All things considered, the mods have a very light touch. I would hardly call them Big Brother. The overwhelming majority of posts are still around exactly as they were posted.

If you feel you need an environment where you are free to fling insults, frankly that's not a place I'm going to join you. Not because I can't handle being insulted, but it's just a lot nicer to talk to people in a place were they usually converse as mature adults.

LOL. You say that as if A) that's the worse thing in the world that could happen; and B) It never happens even WITH moderator intervention. Even without abusive name-calling and insulting, we still have long raging arguments and heated discussions. We still have discussions that veer away to off-topic tangents. I personally don't see the gain value in giving up freedom of speech so that the moderators can erase comments that everybody is freely capable of ignoring on their own.

I'm actually perfectly fine with raging, heated discussions. You only have to look at my posting history in the P&R forum to recognize that. And to the best of my recollection, I've never reported anything to the mods in the P&R forum. In there, I realize that it is an environment that is bound to rile people up, and I'm fine with it.

But here in the General forum, I expect a higher degree of civility, and I"m fine with the mods doing what is necessary to keep the trolls and flamers under control.

If you're concerned about over-burdening the moderators, then we're in agreement. I'm for leaving them out of it altogether. I'm sorry, but I really got a chuckle when I read your words "When that happens, everybody loses." Don't you see? "That" can ONLY happen in a moderated forum. By chosing a system of speech control and censorship, we've ALREADY lost our most valuable commodity: Freedom of expression without fear of repression. Anything we lose after that is pretty insignificant.

Like it or not, the TMF is a moderated environment. You may prefer absolute free speech. But since we don't have it here, I take the steps necessary to make sure the speech that I care about doesn't get suppressed.

This thread wasn't to be about the pros and cons of forum moderation. What I've said here is going to be the extent to which I indulge this tangent. To bring it back on topic, a successful poster won't provoke moderator intervention by tattling, but will do his part to maintain the peaceful continuity of the thread in a mature and adult fashion.

I take issue with your forumulation. A successful poster will not provoke moderator intervention by maintaining peaceful continuity of the thread in a mature and adult fashion. He will not intentionally provoke, or obliquely insult others, purely for his own amusement.

Whether someone reports to the mods or not is completely irrelevant to how he is perceived on the forum, because reporting to the mods is private. No readers or other participants in the thread will have any idea who (if anybody) reported a violation unless the mods themselves reveal that information.

Icycle, I couldn't help notice you didn't comment on this one...

Never announce that you are ignoring somebody

Any particular reason you skipped over it? I'd really be interested in your comments. 😉

Because I didn't particularly care about that one. It seems to really get under your skin when people do that, but it doesn't really bother me one way or another. As for myself, to date I've only ever put one person on ignore, and when I did I never said anything or made any fanfare about it. I just got tired of having to scroll past that poster's posts.
 
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