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earthquake safety, for those who might need to know...

steph

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This came from a pal. I apologize, it's a little hard to read, (why the hell do they put those damn arrow things in there anyway?) but I'm trying to answer mail and then head out ina hurry. I thought it was too important not to post right away. Be safe all!
XOXO

Didn't check snopes website for urban legend spam, but this is
definitely
> >food for thought for those of us in California...
> >
> >
> >My name is Doug Copp. I am the Rescue Chief and Disaster Manager of
the
> >American Rescue Team International (ARTI), the world's most
experienced
> >rescue team. The information in this article will save lives in an
> >earthquake.
> >
> >I have crawled inside 875 collapsed buildings, worked with rescue
teams
> >from 60 countries, founded rescue teams in several countries, and I
am a
> >member of many rescue teams from many countries. I was the United
Nations
> >expert in Disaster Mitigation for two years. I have worked at every
major
> >disaster in the world since 1985, except for simultaneous disasters.
> >
> >In 1996 we made a film which proved my survival methodology to be
correct
> >The Turkish Federal Government, City of Istanbul, University of
Istanbul
> >Case Productions and ARTI cooperated to film this practical,
scientific
> >test. We collapsed a school and a home with 20 mannequins inside.
Ten
> >mannequins did "duck and cover," and ten mannequins I used in my
"triangle
> >of life" survival method. After the simulated earthquake collapse we
> >crawled through the rubble and entered the building to film and
document
> >the results. The film, in which I practiced my survival techniques
under
> >directly observable, scientific conditions, relevant to building
collapse,
> >showed there would have been zero percent survival for those doing
duck
and
> >cover. There would likely have been 100 percent survivability for
people
> >using my method of the "triangle of life." This film has been seen
by
> >millions of viewers on television in Turkey and the rest of Europe,
and
it
> >was seen in the USA, Canada and Lat! ! in America on the TV program
Real
TV.
> >
> >The first building I ever crawled inside of was a school in Mexico
City
> >during the 1985 earthquake. Every child was under their desk. Every
child
> >was crushed to the thickness of their bones. They could have
survived by
> >lying down next to their desks in the aisles. It was obscene,
unnecessary
> >and I wondered why the children were not in the aisles. I didn't at
the
> >time know that the children were told to hide under something.
> >
> >Simply stated, when buildings collapse, the weight of the ceilings
falling
> >upon the objects or furniture inside crushes these objects, leaving
a
> >space or void next to them. This space is what I call the "triangle
of
> >life". The larger the object, the stronger, the less it will
compact.
The
> >less the object compacts, the larger the void, the greater the
probability
> >that the person who is using this void for safety will not be
injured.
The
> >next time you watch collapsed buildings, on television, count the
> >"triangles" you see formed. They are everywhere. It is the most
common
> >shape, you will see, in a
> >collapsed building. They are everywhere.
> >
> >TEN TIPS FOR EARTHQUAKE SAFETY
> >
> >1) Most everyone who simply "ducks and covers" WHEN BUILDINGS
COLLAPSE
> >are crushed to death. People who get under objects, like desks or
cars,
> >are crushed.
> >
> >2) Cats, dogs and babies often naturally curl up in the fetal
position.
> >You should too in an earthquake. It is a natural safety/survival
instinct.
> >You can survive in a smaller void. Get next to an object, next to a
sofa,
> >next to a large bulky object that will compress slightly but leave a
void
> >next to it.
> >
> >3) Wooden buildings are the safest type of construction to be in
during
an
> >earthquake. Wood is flexible and moves with the force of the
earthquake.
> >If the wooden building does collapse, large survival voids are
created.
> >Also, the wooden building has less concentrated, crushing weight.
Brick
> >buildings will break into individual bricks. Bricks will cause many
> >injuries but less squashed bodies than concrete slabs.
> >
> >4) If you are in bed during the night and an earthquake occurs,
simply
> >roll off the bed. A safe void will exist around the bed. Hotels can
> >achieve a much greater survival rate in earthquakes, simply by
posting a
> >sign on the back of the door of every room telling occupants to lie
down
> >on the floor, next to the bottom of the bed during an earthquake.
> >
> >5) If an earthquake happens and you cannot easily escape by getting
out
> >the door or window, then lie down and curl up in the fetal position
next
> >to a sofa, or large chair.
> >
> >6) Most everyone who gets under a doorway when buildings collapse is
> >killed. How? If you stand under a doorway and the doorjamb falls
forward
> >or backward you will be crushed by the ceiling above. If the door
jam
> >falls sideways you will be cut in half by the doorway. In either
case,
you
> >will be killed!
> >
> >7) Never go to the stairs. The stairs have a different "moment of
> >frequency" (they swing separately from the main part of the
building).
The
> >stairs and remainder of the building continuously bump into each
other
> >until structural failure of the stairs takes place. The people who
get
on
> >stairs before they fail are chopped up by the stair treads -
horribly
> >mutilated. Even if the building doesn't collapse, stay away from the
> >stairs. The stairs are a likely part of the building to be damaged.
Even
> >if the stairs are not collapsed by the earthquake, they may collapse
later
> >when overloaded by fleeing people. They should always be checked for
> >safety, even when the rest of the building is not damaged.
> >
> >8) Get Near the Outer Walls Of Buildings Or Outside Of Them If
Possible
-
> >It is much better to be near the outside of the building rather than
the
> >interior. The farther inside you are from the outside perimeter of
the
> >building the greater the probability that your escape route will be
blocked.
> >
> >9) People inside of their vehicles are crushed when the road above
falls
> >in an earthquake and crushes their vehicles; which is exactly what
> >happened with the slabs between the decks of the Nimitz Freeway. The
> >victims of the San Francisco earthquake all stayed inside of their
> >vehicles. They were all killed. They could have easily survived by
getting
> >out and sitting or lying next to their vehicles. Everyone killed
would
> >have survived if they had been able to get out of their cars and sit
or
> >lie next to them. All the crushed cars had voids 3 feet high next to
them,
> >except for the cars that had columns fall directly across them.
> >
> >10) I discovered, while crawling inside of collapsed newspaper
offices
and
> >other offices with a lot of paper, that paper does not compact.
Large
> >voids are found surrounding stacks of paper.
> >
> >
> >Spread the word and save someone's life.
 
Thanks for the list steph, I'll read it when I get a chance.
 
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steph said:
This came from a pal. I apologize, it's a little hard to read, (why the hell do they put those damn arrow things in there anyway?) but I'm trying to answer mail and then head out ina hurry. I thought it was too important not to post right away. Be safe all!
This is an excellent safety message, and I had not heard this before. I went ahead and cleared out the arrows using the replace feature on my word program. Here's the gist of the message, cutting through this guy's bona fides.

… during the 1985 earthquake. Every child was under their desk. Every child was crushed to the thickness of their bones. They could have survived by lying down next to their desks in the aisles... I didn't at the time know that the children were told to hide under something.

Simply stated, when buildings collapse, the weight of the ceilings falling upon the objects or furniture inside crushes these objects, leaving a space or void next to them. This space is what I call the "triangle of life". The larger the object, the stronger, the less it will compact.

The less the object compacts, the larger the void, the greater the probability that the person who is using this void for safety will not be injured.

The next time you watch collapsed buildings, on television, count the "triangles" you see formed. They are everywhere. It is the most common shape, you will see, in a collapsed building. They are everywhere.



TEN TIPS FOR EARTHQUAKE SAFETY

1) Most everyone who simply "ducks and covers" WHEN BUILDINGS COLLAPSE are crushed to death. People who get under objects, like desks or cars, are crushed.

2) Cats, dogs and babies often naturally curl up in the fetal position. You should too in an earthquake. It is a natural safety/survival instinct. You can survive in a smaller void. Get next to an object, next to a sofa, next to a large bulky object that will compress slightly but leave a void next to it.

3) Wooden buildings are the safest type of construction to be in during an earthquake. Wood is flexible and moves with the force of the earthquake. If the wooden building does collapse, large survival voids are created. Also, the wooden building has less concentrated, crushing weight.

4) Brick buildings will break into individual bricks. Bricks will cause many injuries but less squashed bodies than concrete slabs.

5) If you are in bed during the night and an earthquake occurs, simply roll off the bed. A safe void will exist around the bed. Hotels can achieve a much greater survival rate in earthquakes, simply by posting a sign on the back of the door of every room telling occupants to lie down on the floor, next to the bottom of the bed during an earthquake. If an earthquake happens and you cannot easily escape by getting out the door or window, then lie down and curl up in the fetal position next to a sofa, or large chair.

6) Most everyone who gets under a doorway when buildings collapse is killed. How? If you stand under a doorway and the doorjamb falls forward or backward you will be crushed by the ceiling above. If the doorjamb falls sideways, you will be cut in half by the doorway. In either case, you will be killed!

7) Never go to the stairs. The stairs have a different "moment of frequency" (they swing separately from the main part of the building). The stairs and remainder of the building continuously bump into each other until structural failure of the stairs takes place. The people who get on stairs before they fail are chopped up by the stair treads – horribly mutilated. Even if the building doesn't collapse, stay away from the stairs. The stairs are a likely part of the building to be damaged. Even if the stairs are not collapsed by the earthquake, they may collapse later when overloaded by fleeing people. They should always be checked for safety, even when the rest of the building is not damaged.

8) Get Near the Outer Walls Of Buildings Or Outside Of Them If Possible - It is much better to be near the outside of the building rather than the interior. The farther inside you are from the outside perimeter of the building the greater the probability that your escape route will be blocked.

9) People inside of their vehicles are crushed when the road above falls in an earthquake and crushes their vehicles; which is exactly what happened with the slabs between the decks of the Nimitz Freeway. The victims of the San Francisco earthquake all stayed inside of their vehicles. They were all killed. They could have easily survived by getting out and sitting or lying next to their vehicles. Everyone killed would have survived if they had been able to get out of their cars and sit or lie next to them. All the crushed cars had voids 3 feet high next to them, except for the cars that had columns fall directly across them.

10) I discovered, while crawling inside of collapsed newspaper offices and other offices with a lot of paper, that paper does not compact. Large voids are found surrounding stacks of paper.
 
It is interesting. At first it seems logical to hide under something, but often it is what is not logical that is the right thing to do. I guess it is like that with manythings in life.
 
Sole seeker~bless you for that! :smilelove Thanks!
XOXO
 
I just read the article, and the advice in it sounded suspicious to me (I've lived in Southern California all my life and have ALWAYS heard you should "duck and cover" during an earthquake), so I went to the snopes "Urban Legend" website. It said you should take this article "with some very large grains of salt":

http://www.snopes.com/crime/warnings/triangle.asp

Sorry steph but it looks like you got some bad advice. 🙁
 
Party pooper! :evilha:
Thanks for the correction!
XOXO

amk714 said:
I just read the article, and the advice in it sounded suspicious to me (I've lived in Southern California all my life and have ALWAYS heard you should "duck and cover" during an earthquake), so I went to the snopes "Urban Legend" website. It said you should take this article "with some very large grains of salt":

http://www.snopes.com/crime/warnings/triangle.asp

Sorry steph but it looks like you got some bad advice. 🙁
 
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