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cool for me I am still looking for that very ticklish black woman in chicago who has very light tan soles and very ticklish feet my dream black lady
 
Slaver, how are you accusing a white man of racism when he wants to set up a site that specializes in women of color? Please tell me how that makes any sense? If he were a black man, maybe....just maybe you'd have a real argument to defend. Right now it only appears that you've taken this too far but don't know how to bring it back so you keep riding the "racism" horse. It simply isn't there Slaver......but keep on defending that opinion because the more you type the more you unravel your own defense.

Racist was the wrong choice of word, Discriminate better explains what I am trying to say...

Discriminate: v (foll. by against or in favour of) single out a person or group for special disfavour or favour

Kis123 said:
And if you don't believe I won't fight racism to the death around here you obviously don't frequent the P & R section and even some gen discussion threads around here because I've imploded more than my share thank you very much. You can think what you want, but where that issue is concerned.....you are wrong.

I know you have, when it was black people being discriminated against, but what about where it wasn't. I remember you pouncing on me once because I used a poor choice of words on a topic not much different then this one (not the same but still related). I remember us getting it on over you thoughts on a certain singer or model playing a certain super hero. I also remember you never answering my question regarding how you would feel is a white actress (lets say Charlez Theron for example) had played Storm in the X-Men films. Like I said above, maybe the term "Racist" is wrong (and I am sorry I ever called you that) because it pertains to hate, and I don't think you would dis someone because of their race or any other reason then who they are, but (like most) you do have your preference toward your own people (yeah that's going to piss you off to). Nobody on earth is without prejudice on some level.
 
Just my 2cents. I love ebony clips, and yes they are hard to find, so I say go for it.

As far as discrimination goes, I believe Slaver is right about the discrimination part, but I would add this to it, It doesn't matter. In the U.S., we can pursue any type of business (legal business) that we would like, and in that pursuit, we can serve it up to the public any way we'd like (again, legally). If I opened a Indian food restaurant would I be discriminating because a customer wants a big mac? Based of your definition, I would, because a restaurant should serve ALL food, not just a certain type.

Another example, If I open a movie theater and show only black and white films, am I discriminating against color films when the whole theme of the theater is black and white pics?

Basically what I'm saying is this, yes, the dictionary term for discrimination is what you're saying, but the world isn't just black and white. It's gray, and that's the area that this falls under. If the world followed every technical term this would be a TOTALLY different place. If an all ebony site doesn't appeal to you, no need to go there. So yes you are right, but you're also wrong...
 
As far as discrimination goes, I believe Slaver is right about the discrimination part, but I would add this to it, It doesn't matter. In the U.S., we can pursue any type of business (legal business) that we would like, and in that pursuit, we can serve it up to the public any way we'd like (again, legally). If I opened a Indian food restaurant would I be discriminating because a customer wants a big mac? Based of your definition, I would, because a restaurant should serve ALL food, not just a certain type.

No you would not, but if you only hired Indian people to work there you would be. Mind you I can understand going out of you way to hire an Indian cook, because he or she would probably have a better understand of the food, but to assume a person who wasn't Indian couldn't do it as well or sometimes better would be wrong.

kidd8th said:
Another example, If I open a movie theater and show only black and white films, am I discriminating against color films when the whole theme of the theater is black and white pics?

Do you only hire black or white people to work in the theater, or do you let people of other ethnic groups work there too?

kidd8th said:
Basically what I'm saying is this, yes, the dictionary term for discrimination is what you're saying, but the world isn't just black and white. It's gray, and that's the area that this falls under. If the world followed every technical term this would be a TOTALLY different place. If an all ebony site doesn't appeal to you, no need to go there. So yes you are right, but you're also wrong...

I am not wrong. I am talking about discrimination that would deny somebody the ability to make money. Look at the show "Friends" and how people freaked out because there were never any black people on camera for years. Did they firs Lisa Kudro and replace her with a black actress... no, they added a black actress to the cast. I don't see anything wrong with that. Of course they didn't replace Marissa Tomai when she left "It's a different World" way back when... I wonder where the NAACP was then.

The truth is, I am one of the few people who is coming from an honest place on this topic. I am usually the only one who has the balls to stand up and say "You know what, thats not right." when all the Yes Types are shacking hands and kissing butts. The model who wrote Tommy about his add in the paper, even though she chose the wrong way to respond, was in away correct. For Tom to put an add in the paper for a White Female Model for his site did discriminate against her (calling him white trash showed she was far worse). If he had explained why he needed a white model for rather then just a model.
 
Okay, no you're wrong.

I guess that one shot over your head there. U answered no to all my examples and added a people edge into it. It's the same thing. You're saying it wouldn't be discrimination for me to walk into a Indian restaurant and order a bigmac, and them to tell me no, but if I hired only Indians it would? Based off your definition that's incorrect, so yes u are wrong.

First, the restaurant is discriminating cause they should offer all food, not just Indian. Secondly, because they won't give me what I want, they are discriminating me. Let me say it in a way u can better understand. I'm taking your argument and applying it to this situation. Imagine I owned a chain of Mc Donalds, but decided to open a Indian restaurant.

You - Excuse me sir, I'd like to order a Big Mac

Me - Sorry sir, all we sell is Indian food.

You - What? Don't you own the chain of Mc Donalds?

Me - Yes, but I decided to open a place just for Indian food.

You - That's not right, you should have added the Indian food to your other stores menu, not open up a store specifically for Indian food.

Me - You can get a big mac anywhere, but it's hard to find Indian food around, so I decided to just open a place for that.

You - That's discrimination!

Does that whole conversation make sense? Well just change the Indian food to the Ebony site, and the Mc Donalds to the Tickle Abuse site, and that's your argument. U want to make it about people, but like we've been telling u it's about the green (or the colors of your currency.)

I know what you're saying about people favoring their own kind, but it's not out of discrimination, it's out of comfort. Most people are comfortable with their own kind, but it does not mean they discriminate against others. Normally I'm just like you when it comes to PC, but discrimination is hardly the case here. I guess we in the U.S. treat that word the same as racist, so maybe that's why you're getting a little backlash from all us.
 
You - Excuse me sir, I'd like to order a Big Mac

Me - Sorry sir, all we sell is Indian food.

You - What? Don't you own the chain of Mc Donalds?

Me - Yes, but I decided to open a place just for Indian food.

You - That's not right, you should have added the Indian food to your other stores menu, not open up a store specifically for Indian food.

Me - You can get a big mac anywhere, but it's hard to find Indian food around, so I decided to just open a place for that.

You - That's discrimination! .

Ok, ok, I realize I am a bit of an ass because I didn't read you post, I just sort of glance at it and responded. If I had read it properly my real response would have been as follows...

There is no nice way to say this, kid your a fucking idiot. We aren't talking about what food is served as a resteraunt we are talking about jobs, work, making money. If you have a site that only hires women of colour to model for them then models that are not women of colour are out of a job. We are not talking about a certain roll in a tv show, or a movie, we are talking about pretty girls being tied down and tickled. As far as I can tell race colour and creed doesn't have any effect on somebody being able to do that.

Thats how I would have replied to you dumb ass comment.
 
I know what you're saying about people favoring their own kind, but it's not out of discrimination, it's out of comfort. Most people are comfortable with their own kind, but it does not mean they discriminate against others. Normally I'm just like you when it comes to PC, but discrimination is hardly the case here. I guess we in the U.S. treat that word the same as racist, so maybe that's why you're getting a little backlash from all us.

No kidd you don't know what I am saying.
 
I'm the ass? Let me slow it down so even a mope like you can understand. (U started the name calling, not me). It was a comparison jackass! Obviously it's two different thing, but were going by your dictionary definition of discrimination. If you're going to be black and white about it, I'm showing you how completely stupid it sounds. If you can't understand comparisons, than you are the fucking idiot. BTW name calling is just a sign that your argument sucks. Spare me the "No your argument sucks" routine, cause you're in the minority here! (OMG, that must mean I'm discriminating against you!!!)
 
Oh, and you're right, I don't understand what your saying! I figured you had some sense, but obviously name calling is what makes u smarter!
 
Fellas, this is getting out of hand. Keep away from the personal insults and keep it on topic please.
 
I'm the ass? Let me slow it down so even a mope like you can understand. (U started the name calling, not me). It was a comparison jackass! Obviously it's two different thing, but were going by your dictionary definition of discrimination. If you're going to be black and white about it, I'm showing you how completely stupid it sounds. If you can't understand comparisons, than you are the fucking idiot. BTW name calling is just a sign that your argument sucks. Spare me the "No your argument sucks" routine, cause you're in the minority here! (OMG, that must mean I'm discriminating against you!!!)

Being in the minority doesn't make me wrong. The Dixie Chicks were in the minority once, and they weren't wrong were they?
 
I predicted this would turn into a flame and rant topic. lol. And what has happened. How about we agree to disagree on this one. This idea was taken way out of context. Tommy just wants to filter his content to a certain audience. If you go to Clips4Sale, and go to one of Tommy's many stores and type ebony into the search box or click on the "All Catogories" drop down menu and go to "Ebony", you will have every Ebony clip in the store your searching under at that point in time. The only difference between that and what Tommy is trying to do is that he wants to change the title at the top of the screen. It will help those who like ebony content, yet it won't hurt those who dont or those who are indifferent(as you are Slave Tickler which is perfectly fine).
Yes, it is discrimination, but not a racist context.
 
Yes, it is discrimination, but not a racist context.

I realized that and I even took the time to pm Tommy and let him know I was sorry for using the wrong term. I don't normally do this, but in his response he told me I didn't have to be sorry, and that he was glad I had taken a different point of few then everybody else.
 
I predicted this would turn into a flame and rant topic. lol. And what has happened. How about we agree to disagree on this one. This idea was taken way out of context. Tommy just wants to filter his content to a certain audience. If you go to Clips4Sale, and go to one of Tommy's many stores and type ebony into the search box or click on the "All Catogories" drop down menu and go to "Ebony", you will have every Ebony clip in the store your searching under at that point in time. The only difference between that and what Tommy is trying to do is that he wants to change the title at the top of the screen. It will help those who like ebony content, yet it won't hurt those who dont or those who are indifferent(as you are Slave Tickler which is perfectly fine).
Yes, it is discrimination, but not a racist context.

I agree it has also and I am glad that Tommy is trying to find a new website for black women which I think is sexy. I stand by my convictions. I like all types of colors and races so I don't want to be limited to just one.
 
Thats how I would have replied to you dumb ass comment.

You're being too politically correct. Reason for that is that when he opens up a company just for ebony tickling, it means that his costumers will know what to expect. If I opened an Indian restaurant, I would probably hire Indian staff too. Not just based on their skills, but also because if I run a place called Mumbai Curry and there's only blond Hooters-girls working there it would give a very weird impression. People like "what you see is what you get" more than weird surprises.

People are different, and should be dealt with in different manners. Thing is that that is not a bad thing at all, it just depends on the reasons why you deal with people differently. (in this case giving the customer what they want)
 
I realized that and I even took the time to pm Tommy and let him know I was sorry for using the wrong term. I don't normally do this, but in his response he told me I didn't have to be sorry, and that he was glad I had taken a different point of few then everybody else.

I am too. Its nice to know you can get a different viewpoint around here every once in a while.
 
I think it is a pretty good idea.

As the tickling community opens up, and more people become aware that there are other people who love it as much as they do (I thought I was a weirdo at first, still am though), people start looking to see where they fit in. Are there people really like me who are into tickling? Who look like me? Will I be accepted?

These things are natural. For me, ticklish people are ticklish people. Whatever! People are People! I love all races; however as a matter of pride, I still get a bit more excited when I run across people who are like me- Women into tickling, Teachers into tickling, people of color into tickling,- It is kind of natural for me. I don't want to say for US because I can't speak for every minority on this site or in the world.

Now, I do think you should go for it and wish you all the success in the world. What I look for in a tickling vid/clip is quality- Lee/Ler, picture quality, quality of bondage... etc. But I would be a huge liar if I said that I didn't think: Oh cool! When I saw someone like me being tied and tickled out of his/her mind.

I think we've evolved, which is great for TMF. 6 or 7 years ago people were flat out saying only fair skinned girls were extremely ticklish and that darker skinned girls just weren't as much. The fact that we are arguing about whether or not it is appropriate to make a site catering to a particular race of a model, instead of whether the model is too dark to be ticklish means we are at least improving somehow. LOL 😀

By the way, it is totally appropriate. Back in the "day", people had only Ana and Andre to turn to for ethnic clips. Open it up, group it up... Good luck in your adventures!

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Racist was the wrong choice of word, Discriminate better explains what I am trying to say...

Discriminate: v (foll. by against or in favour of) single out a person or group for special disfavour or favour



I know you have, when it was black people being discriminated against, but what about where it wasn't. I remember you pouncing on me once because I used a poor choice of words on a topic not much different then this one (not the same but still related). I remember us getting it on over you thoughts on a certain singer or model playing a certain super hero. I also remember you never answering my question regarding how you would feel is a white actress (lets say Charlez Theron for example) had played Storm in the X-Men films. Like I said above, maybe the term "Racist" is wrong (and I am sorry I ever called you that) because it pertains to hate, and I don't think you would dis someone because of their race or any other reason then who they are, but (like most) you do have your preference toward your own people (yeah that's going to piss you off to). Nobody on earth is without prejudice on some level.

Now I can address your post.

I temporarily unsubscribed because a member was trying to twist my words and start a fight. I'm no longer feeding the trolls so I waited until an opportunity for intelligent dialogue presented itself.

Yes, your use of the word "racist" was not appropriate here. That word conjures up some of the most horrific crimes in this society that were practiced for hundreds of years. You'll almost guarantee a fight from somebody when you use it. Glad you realized that wasn't the right word to use.

Yes in the past, you and I fell out over potentially using two black actresses in the role of Wonder Woman and this is NOT the subforum to regurgitate it. I don't remember your analogy of using Halle Berry for Storm's character so that's why I didn't address it. I probably unsubscribed so you and I didn't implode a perfectly good thread; that's my new way of avoiding hijacks and locked threads. I'm getting too old for arguing with some of you around here.

When XMen and most of the comics were created, America was pretty much at its worst in the racism department. I'm not good with the history of comics in this country but I'm thinking there weren't too many black superheroes in the comic books back then. But that doesn't mean that it couldn't change in the 21st century. And that's the bottom line Slaver IMO; what you see as discrimatory and borderline racist, every black/African American/whoever member that has posted here sees it as special and something to celebrate. Actually, I feel honored at the thought we're that much a consideration in the community; didn't even know that many blacks into tickling until I came here. Sunrise explained it in her post; only a few years ago they were arguing about lighter vs darker complected blacks being more or less ticklish (which I find absolutely assinine) to a white producer desiring to create a site that celebrates all women of color. I think it's a progression of the times, not the other way around.
 
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