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This post is for my lover - he'll know it's for him. But if others want read it, I suggest you do. But be warned - it's not your usual faire.



She got the e-mail at work, welcoming here to the team. Renee had volunteered at a charity event the year before and had volunteered again for the anual event which was coming up the following month. But this year the e-mail came from Rich who was usually just another volunteer himself but this year was in charge of Renee's department. She couldn't remember him well from the year before but she was a friendly person so she wrote back even though the e-mail didn't require a response.

Rich wrote her back and so began an e-mail friendship. Rich usually sent the first e-mail each day, just asking if Renee was busy. She wrote back that she was always busy but that she always had time to chat. Some light flirting began, but they were both married, though neither happily, and Renee never thought anything would come of it.

May arrived and with it, the charity event where Rich and Renee were volunteering. During the multiple day event, the flirting continued in person and by text messages. By the last day of the event Renee was glowing from all the attention and the compliments Rich had given here. She told this to Rich and admitted the attraction was mutual. As the evening wrapped up, Renee asked Rich to walk her to her car. When the got there, away from all the prying eyes, Renee gave Rich a hug and a kiss on the cheek. As she got in her car, he leaned in and gave her a quick kiss.

As she drove home that night, Renee thought that would be the end of it, atleast in terms of face to face contact, until the following year. Rich lived 4 hours away and they were both married remember. But the e-mails continued, now combined with daily phone calls between her cell and his work. Rich could never talk on his cell since his wife saw the bill but Renee could sometimes call his home if his wife was gone for the evening.

In less than a month, Rich told Renee that he loved her. She wrote back that he was attracted to her and liked here but it couldn't be love because he didn't know her well enough yet. He wrote back, "call it want you want to call it, believe me or not but I love you. I know already that there would be a hole in my life if you left." Renee said she'd wait to see but in her heart she already believed him, wanted so much for it to be true.

Renee and her husband Mark had a terrible marriage. It had been a mistake before they even said their vows. Three years later when their first and only child had been born, Mark had told Renee that he was having an affair and wanted a divorce. Renee cried, some for herself, but mostly for her newborn son that would never really know his dad. She had decided to fight for her marriage and they had stayed together but for all the wrong reasons. Her marriage died a little more each day. Their biggest problems revolved around sex. Renee had pulled out all the ***** tricks to keep him satisfied but she still came home all too often to find him on the internet looking at porn. For years it made her cry, then it made her bitter and angry, then she just stopped caring, stopped trying. Sex became a disaster and then non-existent. Because Mark had never been an affectionate person to begin with, the lack of sexual intimacy turned them into roommates who still shared the cal-king bed. Regardless of where Rich and Renee were headed, Renee told Mark she wanted a divorce. No big surprise to anyone, not even their twelve year old son, Mark agreed.

Less than a month after the volunteer event, Rich told Renee that his wife was going out of town. He had to drive her to the airport and asked if Renee wanted to meet somewhere for coffee. Renee didn’t even hesitate; she wanted to see him again too. She even went shopping for her date. She bought a short jean mini-skirt and a super low plunge, clingy top. She knew he liked boobs and legs, even though her boobs were a c at best and her legs too short, she showed them both off for him. Besides it helped her feel sexy too and she needed every little bit of help she could get because she was terrified. She wasn’t scared because she was starting an affair – she was just afraid of getting intimate with someone new, even kissing scared her. She hadn’t kissed anyone but her husband in twenty years and she hadn’t even kissed him any time lately. She told Rich how nervous she was and the first thing he did when he saw her was kiss her several times. That put her at ease – tough stuff over right up front! They drank coffee, sat, smoked, talked about their lives, wandered around hand in hand. It was over all too soon and Rich had to drive home. As he hugged Renee goodbye, she wanted to whisper in his ear that she loved him too. But it still felt way too soon and she chickened out.

They met again in July. They went to a movie where they made out like teenagers. In the darkness of the theater they groped eaf other and Rich quickly had his hand between Renee's thighs, making her cum 3 times. Renee was on cloud 9. She felt young and sexy and desireable and oh my God did it feel good after so many years of neglect!

The relationship continued to grow and deepen, both of them now saying I love you in every phone conversation and several times by e-mail every day. They talked and talked. Renee told him everything including how she felt about stuff. She wanted to open every door for Rich so that he would truly know her. Among other things, Rich knew that Renee was going to file for divorce but that she was waiting for the following June as she had a big project the following May that was taking up most of her money and a lot of her time and planning. She just didn’t want to deal with a divorce at the same time and there was no real hurry anyway. She was miserable in her marriage and she wanted to be with Rich. He was so incredibly nice, always said just the right thing, told her how beautiful she was, how smart, how funny, how sexy, how she deserved so much more than Mark had ever given her. He told her all the things her heart ached to hear. He made her feel so amazing! For the first time in her life, she felt like this was the real deal, a love to last a lifetime.

Rich also told her about his past and his current marriage. He wasn't happy with his job or his wife and Renee encoraged him to talk, always trying to be there to say things which would boost him up, trying to get him to see things in a more positive light. He often told her the only good thing in his life was her and that she was all he needed. He had told very early on, before their first date, that he liked to write erotica. He didn't elaborate but eventually told her he used to write stories and e-mail them to people. He sent her 2 stories to read. The content didn't bother her, she had an active sexual fantasy life herself, but those other recipients did worry her. She could see he had 5 other women on his e-mail connection list and some of the connections were made after they had begun seeing each other. She tried to get him to talk about it but he said that was all in the past, he was staying away from his stories and stuff like that as long as they were in a relationship. Renee wanted to believe him but it was hard when he still had those women on his e-mail page. She told him she could wait for him to tell her more but told him a little piece of her would always be held back until he did so. Th1s didn't seem to bother Rich too much as he didn't explain, just kept telling her not to worry about it.

Pushing aside her fears and doubts, Renee allowed herself to fall head over heels in love with Rich. And she decided she wanted to marry him. She couldn’t help herself – she eventually dropped hints. Rich picked up on them and told her he wanted to marry her once they were both free. When she read that, she felt like crying with relief. She believed him. She started thinking the rest of her life could actually be happy, doing things she liked to do with someone who had similar interests and who actually loved her and cared about her. That was something she had never had with Mark. This was so much better, so incredibly wonderful, every day was better because Rich was in her life. And someday they would be together every day. She knew that things wouldn’t always feel this perfect but she knew Rich was a world apart from Mark and being married to him would be a huge improvement over the last 20 years. The future looked bright and rosy. Stupid Renee – someone should have taken her aside and explained a few things about extra marital affairs!

They saw each other twice in October. Once they just met for a picnic at a park. It was public but they were still able to get cozy. The second time, Renee rented a hotel room. She had an excuse to be out of town and stayed overnight. It was their first time and, if it wasn’t exactly what either of them thought it would be, it was still worth the wait. Renee was amazed at how beautiful it could be to make love with someone who loves you and who you love back. It was truly a first for her. To be kissed while making love, to exchange I love you’s. To actually feel something in her heart and not just her body. It was the greatest day of her life even though Rich had to leave after a few hours to go home to be with his wife and kids. She sent Rich two long e-mails telling him how great a time she had, how much she loved him, what she would be doing to him if he were there with her again. She wasn’t shy about anything, told him everything she felt and everything she thought he might like to hear.

They got together at a hotel again in January. This time they had several hours together and after they made love they had time to just relax like the old married couple they seemed and watch some movies.

The last time they got together, it was March. Renee always made the long drive so Rich could have the shorter one. They ate breakfast at a truck stop and took a drive in the desert. They were in podunk country with not much to see or do but Renee didn't mind, she was enjoying her day with her sexy man. When he suggested she pull off the road and into the desert, Renee just thought they would park and make out in the backseat but Rich had another idea. He bent her over the hood of her car and pried up her too tight skirt for a quickie. Not what Renee had planned but it was still fun if a little awkward due to clothes and all. Rich couldn't kiss her from that position, it was more Mark's style, more impersonal, but that's good too sometimes.

In April, Rich was out of touch for a week due to an anniversary trip with his family. While he was gone, Renee did a lot of thinking. If she wanted to marry Rich, she was going to have to fight her husband about custody and where she could live. The divorce which she had hoped would be easy was going to get nasty. She decided if she was going to spend time and money to fight to be with Rich, she better make sure Rich was everything he seemed.

She had time to kill on the internet so she started doing some searches. She wanted to find out who those female e-mail connections were and what Rich was doing with them. But she couldn't pin them down or find out anymore information. When Rich got back the next week, she sent him some e-mails telling him that now was the time for him to tell her his story, the whole story. She knew a lot about him but now she needed to know the ugly stuff too. She told him she was worried and why. He wrote back that that stuff was in the past and told her again she was all he needed, all he wanted. But he did give her a clue about those e-mail friends. He mentioned tickling.


Back on the internet Renee discovered some web sights about tickling but the wi-fi she was using blocked access. She did some hard thinking that night and almost ended her relationship with Rich. But she was trying to find some way to fix things, she wanted to keep him, kept trying to find the silver lining in the dark clouds. After a lot of thinking and praying she realized there were 3 things in Rich's favor so she wrote him another long, sincere e-mail. She told him about her worries and about why she thought things could still work out. She told him she wanted to be the bridge between what he normally did in bed and what he fantasized about on the internet. She told him she wanted all of him, all of his sexuality and that she wanted to be his sex toy. He could tickle her all he wanted. Funny thing was - he had never even tried! She told him again she loved him and that she was in this for the long haul but she asked him to give up the internet sex. Big mistake, Renee!


Rich's response gave her some hope that they were finally going to make some progress. He told her he would tell her everything, he just needed time to write it all out or tell her on the phone and it would have to wait until he had privacy.

A week went by with no chats about the issue which was swinging like a pendulum over the cord holding their relationship together. Rich was home Tuesday night with no family around but didn't call Renee until almost 6:30. They only talked for a few minutes and then he said he had to go as his wife would be home soon.

The next night, Renee had several free hours to spend on-line. She was hoping she'd finally get that promised e-mail to read but Rich had been too busy again. Renee was on a different wi-fi and she went back to that tickling forum website. This time she got in and easily found her lover's profile. She saw that he had posted several stories after he had voluntarily promised to stay away from that. And he had commented on other posts so he was obviously still engaged in it. And then she saw the line that cut that cord to a single tenous, oh so tenous thread. It was the date he had last accessed his profile. It was the night before right after he had hung up the phone with her!

Renee sat there in her car in shock. He had lied to her. Had been lying and deceiving her the whole time they had been involved. He had lied about it every time she brought it up. And he would continue lying about it. She fumed. She wanted to scream at him! If he lied about this then every single thing he had said and done was now suspect. How could she believe a single word!? Ah, Renee, now you get it. That thing that someone should have told her long ago. That thing that she had always known but tried to ignore. Tried to tell herself that this time was different. That thing all men and women know - a guy will say and do anything to get into a woman's panties! Duh, Renee, how stupid can you be???

She sat there dazed and wounded. Why did it hurt so bad?? Because she had been so stupid! Her yearning for love and attention had made her the perfect target. She had started this whole thing and she had actually been the pursuer all along. Rich had just used all the information Renee fed him to paint himself as her perfect soul mate and it was all lies. He had no intention of leaving his wife! And when Renee finally figured that out he would just find another sad, lonely, sex and love starved woman to prey upon. He'd probably been doing this for years. Renee was probably not his first affair; it certainly wasn't the first time he had tried.

Renee sat there and thought about what she should do. Should she just walk away from 11 months of love? Or should she give him one more chance to be honest? Well, Renee is a picker and gnawer so she decided to worry that sore spot one more time and see if there was a cure for it.

She copied and pasted the first few paragraphs of one of his "stories" (euphamism for written porn! - he knew how she felt about porn!!) into an e-mail. At the top she wrote, "thanks for lying to me!" And because she was pissed too, she next wrote, "have a nice life." She hit the send button and cried all the way home.

The next morning Rich called Renee on her way to work. She let it go to voicemail and then listened to it. The tone of his voice was changed - it was harder and leaning on annoyance and sarcasm. Rich had said, "I got your message. Don't understand it but I got it. Don't know if you're going to call back or not. If you are - great. If you aren't, (deep breath), whatever I did, I'm sorry. Talk to ya later." Click. That was it - no admission, still pretending he didn't understand the problem. No I love you, no please call me so we can talk about this. Just a blase - call if you want or don't - no big difference to me.

When Renee got in her e-mails that morning, she found two messages from Rich. The first one said, "what the heck are you talking about." Then he must have had some second thoughts so he wrote a second message which said:

not sure from your message what you believe
(Renee's interpretaion: Not what is real but what I believe – as if I’m imagining things)


Has shown you that I’ve lied to you
(Not denying that he lied to her – just wondering how she found out)


I realize you are going through a tough situation in life
(as in - she's over-emotional, unstable, not seeing or thinking clearly)


And I want to be beside you while you’re doing so
(Wants to be with with her while she's going through her divorce but not necessarily after)


Haven’t gotten my mind-reading certificate yet
(A little sarcasm back at Renee)



So I’m not gonna guess what I did
(Because he might guess wrong and give up some other secret she hasn’t discovered yet)


You as well have a great life
(fuck-off back at you, Renee)


you deserve it.
(Because you're a bitch and you deserve your shitty life!)

end of message



Renee was so incredibly incensed - he was still trying to act innocent and confused. Renee did a screen print of his tickling profile page and attached it to another e-mail. She wrote: "again, and let me be clear since you want to act stupid - THANKS FOR LYING TO ME!"

And the response this time?

Absolute silence.

No e-mails.

No phone calls.

Just absolute silence.


After 11 months of almost daily contact, he just completely dropped out of sight.

He had said over and over again that she was worth any effort. But she wasn’t. She wasn’t worth fighting for. She wasn’t worth an apology. She wasn’t even worth an explanation or a lame excuse. And that’s why she cries, not because of the past lies but because of the presnt silence. The bastard hadn't fought for her love at all. Instead he had proven what she has known all along. She was worthless.


For all of you ticklers out there with spouses and significant others. Every time you are here, you are stealing from them. You are hurting the person you supposedly love, whether they know what you do or not. You are debasing yourself into an object for someone else’s sexual gratification. You are selling yourselves and you're going cheap. You are missing the boat – real love is better than this. You are destroying your relationship. I know you don’t want to hear that, don’t want to see that, don’t want to face that. And you most definitely do not want to admit it or change your behavior. You will tell yourselves that what you do is your business and doesn’t hurt anyone. You are so wrong. Please – turn the computer off and tickle the person in your life not the stranger in a chat room.

Moderators -please, please do not delete this post. I know you won’t agree with what I have said. I know you are probably peeved. But there are two sides to every story. You post your tickling porn, please have the courage and respect to post the consequences. I need him to see it. I need him to know what he has done. What he could have had but threw away just to spend time with your bunch instead.

if you've gotten this far, thanks for reading. and if you are my lover, please call me or write me. i know we are both in God's hands and it doesn't have to be over unless you choose this site over me.
 
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If he'll cheat with you, he'll cheat on you. His sleaziness and lying
ways have nothing to do with tickling or being a member of an internet
forum, even a fetish one. There are many men on this forum who would
never act in this way, and again, it has nothing to do with tickling or this
forum, but it's rooted deep in their character.

I know how it feels to fall in love with someone (or at least I thought it was
love at the time) who is "going through a divorce" and then at the last minute
his wife took him back. I was devastated. But I learned from it, and I will never,
ever make that mistake again.

I hope you're able to find that partner who will be proud to call you his own.
Never be somebody's dirty little secret.
 
For all of you ticklers out there with spouses and significant others. Every time you are here, you are stealing from them. You are hurting the person you supposedly love, whether they know what you do or not. You are debasing yourself into an object for someone else’s sexual gratification. You are selling yourselves and you're going cheap. You are missing the boat – real love is better than this. You are destroying your relationship. I know you don’t want to hear that, don’t want to see that, don’t want to face that. And you most definitely do not want to admit it or change your behavior. You will tell yourselves that what you do is your business and doesn’t hurt anyone. You are so wrong. Please – turn the computer off and tickle the person in your life not the stranger in a chat room.

Sorry to hear this. I hope that you recuperate and he finds someone that shares his interests.
 
sorry. new here and not around for long for obvious reasons. meant to post it as a blog. but thanks for not getting defensive about what i wrote.

Nothing to get defensive about. Wasn't aimed at me. But you know, you do write rather well. Excellent heartbreak story, being taken by a jerk. You do have a knack for writing, it took me quite a while before I realized you were talking about yourself in the third person.
Bummer about the inspiration for writing it though.
 
Sorry to hear this. I hope that you recuperate and he finds someone that shares his interests.

i think u meant that in a nice way but not real sure...

i don't mind sharing his tickling fettish i just want exclusivity. would be a nice change over my husband who has similar issues. gotta love the internet and all the sex it provides. course if i lived in the olden days, i would have to put up with a lover who went a viking and raped and pillaged gallore the world never changes, does it?
 
i think u meant that in a nice way but not real sure...

i don't mind sharing his tickling fettish i just want exclusivity. would be a nice change over my husband who has similar issues. gotta love the internet and all the sex it provides. course if i lived in the olden days, i would have to put up with a lover who went a viking and raped and pillaged gallore the world never changes, does it?

There are many couples who post here who are monogamous. And to
compare a man visiting a tickling forum to being a viking who raped
villages of women is just ludicrous. Again, I'm sorry you were hurt,
but it's not a good idea to make your grievances with your ex-lover
public while insulting the general public of this forum. A large number
of us are a close-knit family who will not appreciate being compared
to rapists.
 
I meant it with sincerity.

I would not compare tickling, or a forum with tickling related material to raping and pillaging, but I see your point. I have made many friends here and would hate to think of this as just another porn site for one to get his or her rocks off.

i think u meant that in a nice way but not real sure...

i don't mind sharing his tickling fettish i just want exclusivity. would be a nice change over my husband who has similar issues. gotta love the internet and all the sex it provides. course if i lived in the olden days, i would have to put up with a lover who went a viking and raped and pillaged gallore the world never changes, does it?
 
i think u meant that in a nice way but not real sure...

i don't mind sharing his tickling fettish i just want exclusivity. would be a nice change over my husband who has similar issues. gotta love the internet and all the sex it provides. course if i lived in the olden days, i would have to put up with a lover who went a viking and raped and pillaged gallore the world never changes, does it?

It really sounds like you have self-confidence, jealousy and trust issues if you fear a significant other looking at pornography. Do you fear that they will leave you if they look at porn because they might see something that you're not and wish you were that?
 
I understand you must be extremely hurt right now, cause of what's happened. I know you were trying to get your point accross mostly to another person, but the truth is, you kinda came in here guns blazing, and you not only tried to take him down, but everyone you're asking for "support from" ... I'm not saying you don't deserve to be mad, i'm just saying I think IMO, You're really going about this the wrong way.

However, that being said, I DO wish you the best of luck. Nobody deserves to be made to feel that way, ever.
 
I'm single so I'll just keep on coming here and enjoying myself.

Also, it's not cheating if:

You are in different states
Different time zones
You're too drunk too remember
If you pay for it, technically that's just a business transaction
 
First of all, I'm sorry to hear things turned out the way they did. Heartbreak always suck, but as much as I understand you are hurt and feeling down I think you should take a step back and look at the situation as it was. You clearly come off as the victim in what you wrote above, and I guess that's fair enough since this is your version of the story, but these are the facts I gather from what you wrote:

  • You pretty much cheated on your husband with another man. Granted, he had already come clean and told you he had done the same thing, but you had been flirting with said man even BEFORE you knew that.
  • You actively encouraged another man to cheat on HIS wife, and you were fully aware throughout the ordeal that he was married.
  • You are (or rather, were) surprised that things turned out the way they did.

Really? Given your own role in all of this it kind of rubs me the wrong way when you mention "that thing all men and women know" - that a guy supposedly will "say and do anything to get into a woman's panties." I think it's unfair the way you put down men in general, not only with that comment, but the viking/rape/pillage one as well, as if men are just plain hopeless. Honestly, so what did YOU want to get out of your encounters. You even say yourself in one paragraph that you went to great lengths to "show off your boobs and legs" since you knew he liked that. Exactly what signals were you trying to convey with that, if not sexual ones? Obviously it's not just men who play this game...

Look, I'm not defending him, I'm just suggesting that you have a pretty one-sided view of what happened. The things I've mentioned above are also an attempt at explaining why I also take offense to this following piece of text:

For all of you ticklers out there with spouses and significant others. Every time you are here, you are stealing from them. You are hurting the person you supposedly love, whether they know what you do or not. You are debasing yourself into an object for someone else’s sexual gratification. You are selling yourselves and you're going cheap. You are missing the boat – real love is better than this. You are destroying your relationship. I know you don’t want to hear that, don’t want to see that, don’t want to face that. And you most definitely do not want to admit it or change your behavior. You will tell yourselves that what you do is your business and doesn’t hurt anyone. You are so wrong. Please – turn the computer off and tickle the person in your life not the stranger in a chat room.
Honestly, what right have you to pass judgement in this situation? You have none. Granted that I don't have a spouse or s/o, but once/if I do get one I will still continue to visit this place. I think you have the wrong idea of what this forum is about, because I don't come here just to "flirt with pretty girls" or whatever notion you may have; I have just as many MALE friends here as I have female ones. Like BrightEyes already mentioned, a lot of us here are like family, and I have personally made friends here that I will want to remain in contact with for the rest of my life - again, both male AND female. A significant other who would deny me that is a significant other I wouldn't want in the first place.

But you seem a bit prejudiced about online pornography, and state your dislike for "the sex that the Internet provides". Perhaps that's why you feel so uncomfortable about the forum, I don't know... Anyway, is it unrealistic of you to expect a monogamous relationship where you have "exclusive rights" to the sex-life? Of course not, but that doesn't mean that online erotica is necessarily a bad thing either. One of my friends here on the forum writes tickling stories. His wife is on the forum too and is fully aware of it. No biggie, and I mean for all intents and purposes it is a way for you to express your sexuality. See, I can understand if you have a problem with cyber sex (or for that matter, and in this case, cyber tickling), but just visiting a forum like this, talking about and sharing experiences of your kink, and maybe looking at some written/drawn/produced erotica... I don't see why you feel the need to control that. :shrug: It won't decrease the person's love for you (provided it's there), and if it really worries you then just keep an open dialogue about it and make sure it doesn't affect your sex life. If the guy wanks it to online porn INSTEAD of being intimate with you, then yes, then I can see the problem. Otherwise... it's only natural.

Basically, what I'm trying to say is that the married people who frequent this forum have done nothing wrong, so long as they stay committed and loyal to their wife/husband/spouse. Your attempt to address them and make them feel bad is completely uncalled for.
 
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BEST POST EVER!!!! :yourock: Cars!!!!

I know you may see this as a bunch of people ganging up on you, but if you're able to look PAST that, a lot of people on here have given you some very good advice. It's up to YOU what you want to do with it.

I also suggest NOT stereotyping about a place you really seem to know nothing about.. Is it a fetish site? Absolutely, but as it's been stated over and over on here, this place is SO much more than that to many of us.

Speaking as someone who HAS a spouse.. He understands that as well. He would NEVER deny me friendships or the chance to get to know new people. Does he agree with everything about this place? Not at all, but he knows this place is where my friends are, and he TRUSTS me, something you seem to be lacking, on both ends.

When it comes to places like this, sometimes you need to look a little beyone the surface to see what everything is really about.
 
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^ Thanks T. XD

I know you may see this as a bunch of people ganging up on you, but if you're able to look PASSED that, a lot of people on here have given you some very good advice. It's up to YOU what you want to do with it.
A very good point. Criticism is hard to take, even if it's meant as being constructive. So marcius , while I feel like you needed the reality check, I hope I didn't come off as too hostile in my post above. Obviously I don't know the situation as well as you do, and I admit it was a pretty long read for my relatively short attention span. xD

That said, I don't think I read anywhere that you caught this lover of yours as ACTUALLY flirting with other women; you just took his presence here as a bad sign and, well, freaked. I don't say this to put the blame on you, but it does sound like you have some control issues. So like Canadian_Eh says, maybe you should work a bit on developing trust in your relationships as well. Maybe he needed his kink recognized and accepted even outside the bedroom (and by other people). I mean when it comes down to it we all just want to be accepted, and I know a lot of people here are very self-concious about their kink and think it makes them "weird." Then again, seeing as he was already cheating on his WIFE, maybe he wasn't faithful to you either - at the very least it doesn't exactly boost his credibility. I honestly have no idea what happened though, so I won't try to claim that I have all the truths... But I hope you at least learned something from all this: Don't look for love in the wrong places: Your relationship seems to have been built on secrecy and lies, and so you were off to a bad start already from the get-go.

Again though, I'm sorry things turned out the way they did.
 
Everything Carsomyr and Canadian-Eh said!

Yes, it seems that there quite a few husband and wife teams here, as well as boyfriend/girlfriend members. Some single folks have met through here.

The main purpose of this place, surely for me, and I dare say most others, is to find people LIKE US.

I don't know ANYONE in the outside world in my sphere, that has a tickle fetish. I spent most of my life ALONE in that knowledge, thinking I was a freak or something, asking God what was the matter with me. Having low self esteem about myself, etc. etc.

I discover the first version of this place, and then the forum it now is, and it was a jolt from heaven - there are.....other people....like me....in the world !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's like anyone who is different anywhere, meeting people who are like them. And then finding THOSE folks are different - some of us like pantyhose tickling, some like bare feet, some like long toes, some like short...etc. etc. Some are actually Republicans! Some are Democrats, some believe in God like me, some are athiests! Some are assholes, some are kind, wonderful people! It's unbelievable!

THAT is why this place is REALLY here.

Let me say something else, and I must stress this as hard as I can - A cheater is a cheater. Life is what you make of it. If someone wants to cheat, they will cheat. If someone would never cheat, they would never cheat. Thee are scores of fashion photographers who have never cheated on their wives. There are guys who have tons of female friends and never cheat. There are guys who work around all women, or mostly women, who never cheat. There are guys who can look at porn all day, and never cheat. They just want to look at porn! They'd NEVER ask another girl out.

A cheater can work around all GUYS, or all GIRLS if it's a girl, and STILL cheat! They'll go FIND someone to cheat on, make an enormous effort. I know this because I'd never cheat, never have. I come here to debate politics, discuss videos, because that's my thing, offer advice to friends and fellow members, or just discuss random things. I have known a few guys who cheated, and some had to go out of their way to cheat, and did. Other friends of mine have had ample chances to cheat, but never would.

Being on this forum doesn't make someone become a cheater, they already have that in them.
 
me again. and i said i wouldn't be around long!

first all let me say thanks for your comments which were polite for the most part. considering what i said at the end of my story, you've shown great restraint and even empathy. i honestly did not expect feedback since i forgot the purpose of chatrooms. i didn't think anyone other than my lover would bother to finish my story since it was not abot sex or tickling. and i thought i would get a lot more hostility so, again, thanks for all of your posts.

you're right - i know nothing about your site and have not browsed or read anything other than his stories. what i do know is: you have to be over 18 to enter the site, this site is blocked on many servers, when entering the site i was immediately hit with flashing images on both sides of my screen showing naked women tickling and being tickled(why no men?), i also saw a post where someone asked for a story involving itching powder, tickling and i think bondage. i really haven't seen anything to make me think this site is about anything other than tickling for sexual gratification. and isn't that what a fetish is? taking an object or activity that most people take to be non-sexual in nature and making it into a tool for arousal and orgasm? try to step back and see your site from an outsider's perspective. it's all about sex from what i saw.

i'm actually much more okay with words than images. every book i have ever read has had sex scenes. some short. other with lots of detail. some even homosexual since i like to read histrical fiction. i don't mind that he writes stories. i've written a few to him too. and i don't mind too much if he is posting for the general public.

i do mind if he is writing a story for a particular person. to get a certain reaction. and i especially mind if he is having a back and forth discussion about what they would like to do to each other if they were in closer proximity. (remember, that he has those 5 other women in his e-mail connection and one of them lives nearby.) cuz that's on line sex and it's cheating in my book. course we are already cheating so i'm a hypocrite and that's a big part of my problem. i shouldn't have expected a good outcome when i've known all along that what i am doing is wrong.

my husband used porn instead of using me. i would hate to marry this guy and come home hot and horny for him only to find his mo-jo is zapped cuz he masturbated already. that would be exchanging one sexually dissatisfying marriage for another and turning my current world upside down to achieve status quo.

for those of you on here who say you are born-again and saved, you should read your bibles and go to church more often. and if you read your bibles and attend regularly, you should pay attention. and if you pay attention, then should apply it and be obedient to what it says. being a christian is nothing more than lip service if we are living in defiance and disobedience,. i know, i know - the pot calling the kettle black since i am also being disobedient. the difference? it may not seem like much - but i know i am sinning, i acknowledge my shortfalls and i justify my sin (in error) with hoping God will still bless my sin if i actually married my lover.

sorry for the preaching. comes with the territory since i was a PK. i also am very analytical about the whys and wherefores of behavior, mine and others, and i am always trying to fix people even when the don't want my help or advice. 🙂

oh - and i definitely have self esteem issues up the ying-yang! no doubt about that. and i am afraid that i won't satisfy him in the long run and that this site could lead him to another actual affair. of couse i have trust issues. if he had been upfront and told me stuff, things would have been a lot easier. i can only assume he didn't for one of two reasons: a) he's a chronic liar and cheater (what i felt when i wrote my story!) or b) he was afraid i'd leave if he was truthful (what i hope is true).

lover - i've told you i can accept the good, the bad and the ugly. i have plenty of ugly too. what i can't accept is a wall of lies, secrets and deception that would only seperate us and eventually destroy every good thing we have built up. sorry for the public venue for this discussion. it started out as ironic sarcasm but in the end i don't feel it was such a bad idea. and yes, if you are wondering, i still love you.
 
I'm single so I'll just keep on coming here and enjoying myself.

Also, it's not cheating if:

You are in different states
Different time zones
You're too drunk too remember
If you pay for it, technically that's just a business transaction

Seinfeld reference??

OT: sorry to hear about what happened, how you are able to pull through
 
I think the not cheating thing comes from the movie Road Trip if I'm not mistaken.

If we're talking Road Trip, it's also NOT CHEATING if:

You spread peanut butter on your balls and have your dog lick it off.
 
Marcius,

If you take a step back, and think, "what am I trying to accomplish here," you will see that your approach is a bad idea.

To the extent that one of your goals is to let all of us know that every time we visit this site, we steal from our loved ones and engage in porn, that's just ridiculous. To suggest that every person who has responded to your post (and you, for that matter, for replying to those posts) has done either of those two things is so obviously wrong that it warrants no discussion.

As for your guy, what are you really trying to accomplish? To review, he apparently likes to write sexual stories, and wanted to hide that from you, presumably because he thought you'd react in a way that he didn't like. (Can't imagine why he'd think that, considering that you wrote, " . . .one of his "stories" (euphamism [sic] for written porn! - he knew how she felt about porn!!")

So, you should decide. Is this a great enough sin (to take your parlance) that the relationship should end? If so, then end it. Is it that you need him to apologize for trying to hide this from you, promise never do it again, and promise never visit this forum again? I doubt he'll agree to that (and question whether he should), but if that's the dealbreaker for you, let him know. If you need to see what he sent the women on the list, so you can see whether they seemed aimed at particular people (more akin to cheating than various kinds of posts), then ask him directly. If you want to "negotiate" what he can and cannot do, then you could do that, too.

However, regardless of the substance, the manner of discussion so far is counterproductive. In fact, if you look at the chain of communication so far, the angry attack, his response, and the public posting, this alone will make reparation an uphill battle. Consider again the possibility that he hid this from you because it embarrasses him and he's concerned about your reaction. If that is the case, your actual reaction likely exceeds his worst fears in many respects (though your willingness to participate in his fetish should be encouraging to him.) If you want to salvage things (as opposed to feeling righteously indignant), I strongly suggest an approach to discussing this with him that is radically different (and more private) than what you've done thus far. Much more "how can we fix this" and much less judgmental. Put another way, he may be willing to fight for your love, but he probably wasn't thinking that he'd have to fight YOU for it!

As for the whole, "has he been playing me to get in my pants" thing, that's easy. In the unlikely event that the above problems get resolved, you find a pleasant but direct way to tell him that you don't want a fling, but rather, a marriage, so he has to leave his wife or you'll stop seeing him. Then, either he'll leave her or he won't.

Good luck, for I feel bad that you feel so hurt. But why are you reading this, if being here is all the bad things you say it is?
 
ugh, i just read her imploring people to "read their bibles." please don't be the moral police. it is insulting and condescending.

Does reading the bible ever work for anyone ever?? I mean, if you weren't religious beforehand, the bible is just like a giant book of violent fiction.
 
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