For a tickling forum we sure do bitch/hate a lot.

[Leo tickles]

lol i agree..its common sense.

in my opinion alot of you people need to spend a little less time in the general discussion..you know tmf has like..other threads right? Maybe that'll help with all the "bitching" and annoying shit that happens in this section

lately (from what i've seen) the general discussion has become the "how many pointless topics can i make up and get away with?" section..maybe people are just so annoyed by it all and that's why they're bitching. And for those that are bitching..just do what i do and just never come into this section.

As much as I hate to, I agree with Leo that there is an influx of retardation in GD as of late. Much of which are jokes, random youtube videos, threads that are geared towards one member of the community, etc that all belong elsewhere, in my opinion.

It's not like I'm going to report them, but at times I find them to be a bit annoying since subforums like Silly Stuff and Humor were purposely made so that threads like that don't clutter GD.

There are currently 4 to 6 threads that could arguably be moved, 2 of them being mine, but they are not nearly as bad as the junk that was being posted there a few weeks ago.

For example, this thread should have probably been in the Silly Stuff forum :http://www.ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?t=131065.

THANK YOU!

Not only am I not getting pounced on, people actually see that I have a somewhat decent point.

 

[Capnmad]

As much as I hate to, I agree with Leo that there is an influx of retardation in GD as of late. Much of which are jokes, random youtube videos, threads that are geared towards one member of the community, etc that all belong elsewhere, in my opinion.

It's actually a common complaint that's been on the rise, recently, from the feedback I get from folks.

 

[Deleted member 66627]

That's what reporting the post and threads are for.

I'm not sure what this has to do with the OP.

 

[Capnmad]

That's what reporting the post and threads are for.

I'm not sure what this has to do with the OP.

Aggravation over type of material = adding to the gripiness among folks.

As said, I think it's an overly broad question, but to it's credit, it invites all views.

 

[Deleted member 66627]

Then bump up a thread that you desire to see?

I understand that it can cause aggrivation. But does that give any reason to lash out?

 

[venray]

Then bump up a thread that you desire to see?

Shouldnt have to.

 

[Capnmad]

Then bump up a thread that you desire to see?

LOL! Sounds reasonable to me. Tell THEM!

That's why I do "History Thread" and ask about feelings on justice and whatnot. People should be making this place their own, but a lot just complain about it being someone elses. Sure, The Forum belongs to others, and some others get more feedback, but it doesn't stop you from asserting yourself and who you are, posting what you want, and what you want others to see.

 

[Deleted member 66627]

Shouldnt have to.

Sometimes you do. Regardless of goofy, "pointless" threads.. I have seen one getting heavy hits and posts manage to fall onto page 2 for no reason.

No other threads were getting action, but that one fell.

 

[xionking]

You know what sucks? Being in Australia with the time difference that stops me from getting my ass involved in these wonderful discussions! Uggh, it's so frustrating!!

So six pages into the discussion, I can finally have my say, lol.

Let me just say that, HATE is a strong word. I doubt that hate is a feeling that is thrown around here very often.

Please give yourselves more credit than that.

'Bitching' comes about as a result of feeling left out, discarded or disliked by others. To me, there is still an overwelming 'food chain' type thing happening in this forum.

See, I post stuff sometimes and nobody replies. Shit happens. I blame it on the time difference between USA and Australia, but it sometimes pisses me off that I write up something constructive, and nobody responds let alone reads it. Then someone like Crystallight (just using you as an example, Hun) posts something, and a lot more people reply.

I think what has happened now, is that because of the ACF and the chain of events that triggered as a result of it, people who feel like they don't fit in have further put their guard up, and those who are deemed 'popular' here, have also further put their guard up - meaning that there is now less tolerance and less room for open dialogue.

I can see a number of things happening as a result of this. I think people will start leaving, and it seems to have already begun.

Personally, if you ask me, and I've said it before and will say it again, this all started with the cliques. The cliques allowed people to segregate themselves into groups, and this defined who was friends with who, and also who wasn't friends with who. I'm sure some of it was lighthearted and funny, but underneath the surface, I think this was brewing and bound to happen. So, all of the sudden, we didn't have a TMF with a world community who all share a common interest. Instead, we had a TMF that was dividing...the common interest being tickling all the sudden not being the main focus. 'Cliques' are designed to make people feel left out. That's why high school kids have 'clique's. It's a negative thing to make others feel less important and excluded. The word 'cliques' carries negative connotations. I think that's the one mistake this forum has made.

The cliques ordeal went on for so long, and it was so dragged out that even I was thinking of leaving going on hiatus. People really should've seen this coming.

-Xionking

 

[Raya]

Oh good lord.. This is ridiculous and unhelpful. All of it. Crystal, hon, learn not to paint quite such a large target on your forehead next time.

This is not the kind of question that can or will ever be answered with any kind of answer that will satisfy you or possibly even make sense to you. People's reasons for bitching and whining are just that.. their reasons. You cannot and will not impact them. You must understand that those who have an "off day" but normally don't bitch and whine are probably suffering from being human.. For those who make it a habit.. well, there is an ignore feature activated on this forum. Put them on it and move on.

Just be careful that your own "off days" don't go too long or become too frequent or you will have validated everything "they" have to say.. *sigh*

BTW, this is a human day for me in case you cannot tell

 

[locker669]

. People should be making this place their own...

That is the problem!

 

[xionking]

Oh good lord.. This is ridiculous and unhelpful. All of it. Crystal, hon, learn not to paint quite such a large target on your forehead next time.

This is not the kind of question that can or will ever be answered with any kind of answer that will satisfy you or possibly even make sense to you. People's reasons for bitching and whining are just that.. their reasons. You cannot and will not impact them. You must understand that those who have an "off day" but normally don't bitch and whine are probably suffering from being human.. For those who make it a habit.. well, there is an ignore feature activated on this forum. Put them on it and move on.

Just be careful that your own "off days" don't go too long or become too frequent or you will have validated everything "they" have to say.. *sigh*

BTW, this is a human day for me in case you cannot tell

Ahhh human days...thank goodness for weekends.

Well said, Raya.

 

[xionking]

Hard to say exactly. Some people have very thin-skin and may perceive a comment that is innocuous to you and I as something personally offensive to them and react strongly. Some people may have problems socializing with people in a constructive manner and don't know any way other than to complain or attack. And then some people in this world are just your garden-variety jerks and creeps.

Are you serious???

 

[Tomskee]

Why do we bitch? I think people are just naturally cantankerous. There are some of us that can't stand good things. We always see examples of people destroying things they cherish. This happy forum is not immune to this phenomena.

 

[Mitchell]

I post on such things much less than I used to, as I'm trying to keep a low profile on here. That being said, I want to react to this.

I find myself in the position of actually agreeing with both Tracy and Crystal on some things they posted in this thread. Tracy is absolutely correct about the ignore feature. I use it, a lot. If someone whom you dont get along with posts things in the forum that offend you, put them on ignore. Period. Doing so has solved a lot of hassles for me.

That being said, I also agree with Crystal that for a tickling forum, there is a lot of moaning. I'm not directiing this at anyone, because I havent read all the threads. That having been said, it seems to me that often times people lose sight of the main reason why they joined TMF in the first place, which is to be part of a community of like minded people into tickling. Was TMF easier when I joined six years ago? Yes. I'm a realist that when any community grows as much as ours has, you are going to have many differing opinions both on the message board, and in the chatroom, and that sometimes, those opinions are going to clash, and problems are going to develop.

I do think that two things would help to solve the problem discussed in this thread. One, is to have and exhibit greater respect for others, and differing opinions posted on this board, and two, is to use the ignore feature if you truly dont like a thread, or dont like a specific person or specific people who post in certain threads. I made it a policy a long time ago that I was never going to allow myself to cross the line of flaming someone else to get myself banned from here. No one was worth that. I would put them on ignore, in both chat, and on forum, and if I ever did want to leave, it would be because I wanted to.

One final point: I think that it is only natural sometimes to post feelings on a message board. The key is to realize that not everyone is going to agree with those feelings. The poster has a right to his/her feelings, and the responders have a right to theirs, so long as they dont flame. A good policy might be this. If you see a post that you dont like, and feel the urge to respond with what might be a flame, stop and think a minute how you would feel if you were the one being flamed. Wouldnt a better idea to either be not to reply at all, or put whoeever is ticking you off on ignore?


I'm expecting some rather strong feedback on what I posted, but this is how I see it. I'll get back to my recent pattern of lurking and posting on non controversial matters, but I just wanted to express my view about this issue.

Mitch

 

[xionking]

I post on such things much less than I used to, as I'm trying to keep a low profile on here. That being said, I want to react to this.

I find myself in the position of actually agreeing with both Tracy and Crystal on some things they posted in this thread. Tracy is absolutely correct about the ignore feature. I use it, a lot. If someone whom you dont get along with posts things in the forum that offend you, put them on ignore. Period. Doing so has solved a lot of hassles for me.

That being said, I also agree with Crystal that for a tickling forum, there is a lot of moaning. I'm not directiing this at anyone, because I havent read all the threads. That having been said, it seems to me that often times people lose sight of the main reason why they joined TMF in the first place, which is to be part of a community of like minded people into tickling. Was TMF easier when I joined six years ago? Yes. I'm a realist that when any community grows as much as ours has, you are going to have many differing opinions both on the message board, and in the chatroom, and that sometimes, those opinions are going to clash, and problems are going to develop.

I do think that two things would help to solve the problem discussed in this thread. One, is to have and exhibit greater respect for others, and differing opinions posted on this board, and two, is to use the ignore feature if you truly dont like a thread, or dont like a specific person or specific people who post in certain threads. I made it a policy a long time ago that I was never going to allow myself to cross the line of flaming someone else to get myself banned from here. No one was worth that. I would put them on ignore, in both chat, and on forum, and if I ever did want to leave, it would be because I wanted to.

One final point: I think that it is only natural sometimes to post feelings on a message board. The key is to realize that not everyone is going to agree with those feelings. The poster has a right to his/her feelings, and the responders have a right to theirs, so long as they dont flame. A good policy might be this. If you see a post that you dont like, and feel the urge to respond with what might be a flame, stop and think a minute how you would feel if you were the one being flamed. Wouldnt a better idea to either be not to reply at all, or put whoeever is ticking you off on ignore?


I'm expecting some rather strong feedback on what I posted, but this is how I see it. I'll get back to my recent pattern of lurking and posting on non controversial matters, but I just wanted to express my view about this issue. End of post.

Mitch

It's clear you don't post often, Mitch. You don't have to write 'End of Post'. We know it's the end of your post. Writing 'Mitch' after you'd written 'End of Post' hasn't helped your cause out much either, eh? Well said, though.

 

[brianspencer66]

You know alot of this is really really meaningless. Why are we so hung up so much on what people say in here? I wont go so far to say it does not matter as we all have feelings. But lets face it, someone bitching in here should not ruin your day. Nor am I much concerned of people who are overly critical as I can be that way myself. But lets face it folks this is the internet and though we all are flesh and blood people if somthing really serious happens to you very few people here are going to lend you money, feed your family or cry at your funeral.

Its the people that you see on an everyday basis like your family or your friends maybe even clergy (if your a party of faith) who are what really matters. I think unlike developing countries where people really depend on family for day to day survival. We have grown to have a serious disconnect from what really is important. Folks this is only social icing on the cake. Its only here to make life intresting.

Do we all want to be liked and taken seriously and listened too? Sure. But the buttom line is we are all here for the tickling content and without that well its like a party when all the booze runs out.

 

[The Bandito]

Hey amigos,

I don't spend a ton of time in this part of the forum for precisely the reason that CL started this thread. Discussions get internet people reeeeeeally freaked out. So perhaps going out of our way to prove every little point, we can all just agree that there are a lot of different opinions, feelings, attitudes, and likes/dislikes here - and that that is kinda cool.

There is a ton of hostility on this forum... this planet... the known universe O.O!

Why? That's a BIG freakin' question. A big metaphysical question into the fundamental nature of man, and trolls, and sandwich cookies, and all manner of weird things.

So I just wanted to say... maybe we should all be more existential and less metaphysical. Maybe we should just all take a deep breath and move on when the bitching starts.

If there's too much bitching, maybe we should go out of our own way as much as we can to not bitch. Leave bitching to the trolls. And when the trolls show up... maybe the rest of us take a walk. Let the trolls go back to humping the ground, or biting rocks or whatever they do when they don't have people to pester.

I'm gonna go back to my bandito hideout in the art forum and do some goofy tickle comics now and think of laughter, and pleasure, and love, and eroticism.

So with that - I'll talk with y'all later.

And BTW - I love you guys. You heard me. That just happened.

I don't know who most of you are.

But I love ya.

Who wants to make out?

The Deeto

PS - Crystal Light has cool hair. She'd make great reference for a comic character.

 

[Saeria]

I personally feel like alot of the issues with people being disrespectful to others has everything to do with reaction. It's easy to react, and easy to feel justified in stating your reaction, no matter how abrasive it may seem. Reaction is a normal part of the emotional state but it's how it's maintained that really makes the difference. Instant emotional reaction can be best summed up as a strong emotional response that lacks appropriate reasoning. In a way it's like trying to bake a cake without turning on the oven first. Sure, your intention is there.. you see the cake batter in the pans and the pans are in the oven, but no good is going to come out of it until you take the appropriate steps and follow it through to the end. So is the way of the reaction.
Let's say i make a rather abrasive comment about some inflammatory subject. Let's assume it's something you feel strongly about. You then react without reasoning a way of conveying your response in an effective and appropriate manner and you're left with little more than sludge in a pan that isn't worth eating. It takes quite a bit of emotional effort to reason through your initial reaction and come to a logical response.
This tidbit isn't something that can just be applied here but in any kind of conflict, really. I've learned the value of setting aside initial reaction and weighing in the factors. Where is this person coming from? Is this statement meant to create distress or was it simply a misinterpretation of something a bit more benign that you first thought? If you think it was intentionally meant to do harm, leave it alone. That's your best bet. If you're not sure, don't be afraid to ask for clarification.
We are all different people in so many ways, we live our own lives and often what we say and feel are governed by our environment and past lessons in life. These are inherently going to be different for each person therefore in kind, our opinions and views are going to be as varied.
Another metaphor (cause i'm a dork and speak in metaphors) take the kaleidescope. Ever looked through one that one has one of those little glass squares in it.. it's interesting enough but not near as interesting as if there were 35 little glass squares. Each time you turn the end, the squares collide and merge and with each movement they're always clashing, yet when it's looked at as a whole, it's something beautiful each time. That's kinda how i feel this place is. Like the little glass squares in a kaleidescope. We're always clashing and merging, shifting and changing yet it's still beautiful when you take it all in at once.
Be good to one another as best you can. It may not always be reciprocated but nonetheless, you can say that you've at least tried. 😀😀

 

[venray]

Hey amigos,

I don't spend a ton of time in this part of the forum for precisely the reason that CL started this thread. Discussions get internet people reeeeeeally freaked out. So perhaps going out of our way to prove every little point, we can all just agree that there are a lot of different opinions, feelings, attitudes, and likes/dislikes here - and that that is kinda cool.

There is a ton of hostility on this forum... this planet... the known universe O.O!

Why? That's a BIG freakin' question. A big metaphysical question into the fundamental nature of man, and trolls, and sandwich cookies, and all manner of weird things.

So I just wanted to say... maybe we should all be more existential and less metaphysical. Maybe we should just all take a deep breath and move on when the bitching starts.

If there's too much bitching, maybe we should go out of our own way as much as we can to not bitch. Leave bitching to the trolls. And when the trolls show up... maybe the rest of us take a walk. Let the trolls go back to humping the ground, or biting rocks or whatever they do when they don't have people to pester.

I'm gonna go back to my bandito hideout in the art forum and do some goofy tickle comics now and think of laughter, and pleasure, and love, and eroticism.

So with that - I'll talk with y'all later.

And BTW - I love you guys. You heard me. That just happened.

I don't know who most of you are.

But I love ya.

Who wants to make out?

The Deeto

PS - Crystal Light has cool hair. She'd make great reference for a comic character.

Dude! You need to come out of that hideout a little more often....😎

Good insight....

 

[Deleted member 66627]

This was the point of the thread.

Discussion and Debate.

There doesn't always have to be an obvious outcome. If that were the case all the time, then all of life's issues would be answered.

Agree to Disagree.

Thank you all.

 

[drew70]

My feeling is that our gut reaction to any comments we feel don't put us in a good light is to dismiss such comments as bitching and hating. Maybe instead we should try to find useful information in such comments and use it to consider where we could try to improve ourselves.
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[AffectionateDan]

Who da man?

Hey amigos,

I don't spend a ton of time in this part of the forum for precisely the reason that CL started this thread. Discussions get internet people reeeeeeally freaked out. So perhaps going out of our way to prove every little point, we can all just agree that there are a lot of different opinions, feelings, attitudes, and likes/dislikes here - and that that is kinda cool.

There is a ton of hostility on this forum... this planet... the known universe O.O!

Why? That's a BIG freakin' question. A big metaphysical question into the fundamental nature of man, and trolls, and sandwich cookies, and all manner of weird things.

So I just wanted to say... maybe we should all be more existential and less metaphysical. Maybe we should just all take a deep breath and move on when the bitching starts.

If there's too much bitching, maybe we should go out of our own way as much as we can to not bitch. Leave bitching to the trolls. And when the trolls show up... maybe the rest of us take a walk. Let the trolls go back to humping the ground, or biting rocks or whatever they do when they don't have people to pester.

I'm gonna go back to my bandito hideout in the art forum and do some goofy tickle comics now and think of laughter, and pleasure, and love, and eroticism.

So with that - I'll talk with y'all later.

And BTW - I love you guys. You heard me. That just happened.

I don't know who most of you are.

But I love ya.

Who wants to make out?

The Deeto

PS - Crystal Light has cool hair. She'd make great reference for a comic character.

You da man!

One of the coolest posts I've ever had the pleasure of readin'. Rock on, 'Deeto.

 

[Mitchell]

Xion, actually, I do post very often, just not on this type of issue. I'm about the 14th top poster in this forum, if you look at the list. The reason I wrote "End of post", was because it was more like a long rant. I just edited that post and took it out, though. Thank you for saying that my post was well said. I tried to contribute something meaningful to a thread that is on an unpleasant subject.

Mitch

 

[The Sean Man]

I think most of the problem revolves around the fact that:

1) Some people don't think before speaking.

2) If you don't have anything good to add, keep your piehole shut and let the others enjoy the conversation. Otherwise, you're talking just for the sake of talk.

3) A lot of people have 0 conversation skills.

It's clear you don't post often, Mitch. You don't have to write 'End of Post'. We know it's the end of your post. Writing 'Mitch' after you'd written 'End of Post' hasn't helped your cause out much either, eh? Well said, though.

4) See #2