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[USATKLR]

Oh one more thing If you are so into this just for the love of tickling why don't you tickle the tmf members that ask to be in content like we do?
ticklehorror porn stars hired to date-7
ticklehorror tmf members requesting to be hired to date and actually were-12

Yep and i was one of them.. And i'll be happy to do it again laney. The way the shoot was for me was not only fun, but very very intriging as well. I love to do it again. Plus i think the quality of clips you provide, are very worth a lot of money.

There is plenty of room here in this forum, for more than one producer, and i think ticklehorror.com is one of the best up and coming producers around.

Dont worry laney, You may not be able to please everyone all the time ( Wink Wink ), But for those who love to criticize your work, Hmmmmmmm........i dont see them coming forward to give it a try. So people like that, shouldnt throw stones to a glass house they will never enter in.

See ya soon laney. KISS KISS !!!

 

[USATKLR]

🙂
you do realize that everyone else on the TMf sees the things you say, and the unprofessional attitude you say them with ... don't you?



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You do realize your baiting her and getting under her skin, right? I know you are. Now THATS unprofessional to me.

 

[tickler_n_black]

You do realize your baiting her and getting under her skin, right? I know you are. Now THATS unprofessional to me.

hi usatklr,
nah, i'm not baiting anyone, just talking with her.
hey, i'm happy for you that you were used in a tickling video. that's cool really. i realize there are some people that want to live out that dream.

but because you were hired by her to be in a video, (and haven't been from TC Video) you don't expect anyone to believe that you would do ANYTHING BUT stand behind her 100% on any issue ... right?

you gotta admit you're a little bit biased ... right?
(wink)

🙂

ps- in fact, you do realize that THAT is the main reason some companies sometimes film with TMF members right? because they realize they will have their undying support forever, on any issue, even when they are in the wrong. it's a marketing scheme. well that and, they don't have to pay you much, if at all.

that's not fair to you.

try and see this conversation in a non-biased way, without feeling "disloyal" to Laney if you admit she's out of line. 🙂

 

[USATKLR]

hi usatklr,
nah, i'm not baiting anyone, just talking with her.
hey, i'm happy for you that you were used in a tickling video. that's cool really. i realize there are some people that want to live out that dream.

but because you were hired by her to be in a video, (and haven't been from TC Video) you don't expect anyone to believe that you would do ANYTHING BUT stand behind her 100% on any issue ... right?

you gotta admit you're a little bit biased ... right?
(wink)

🙂

ps- in fact, you do realize that THAT is the main reason some companies sometimes film with TMF members right? because they realize they will have their undying support forever, on any issue, even when they are in the wrong. it's a marketing scheme. well that and, they don't have to pay you much, if at all.

that's not fair to you.

try and see this conversation in a non-biased way, without feeling "disloyal" to Laney if you admit she's out of line. 🙂

biased my ass. I have seen your clips as well, and to be honest. You want me to pay to see the same kind of torture in every video you make. Gets kinda boring if you ask me.

And if you want biased, My other favortie producer, ( and i havent starred in them either ) is renee from PARADISE TICKLING. She has scenerios and even some story lines.

Now to me they are never boring, that gets the imagination going more and more.

And believe me, if anyone is out of line with anything, Im the first one to point it to that person, and not feel bad about it.

SO.... You always pick on her, and no one else, How come?

 

[laney]

🙂
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TIb is anything it is YOU who look completely unprofessional and you have exposed yourself as such to the whole TMF and to all the other producers. (I would like to show here 2 emails I have gotten today from other producers about you but that wouldn't be fair to them and frankly I am tired of the dart throwing here that YOU started. It was completely unprofessional to stick your nose into my thread offering "blunt" as you called but rather "harsh" as I call it, advice when I did not ask you for it. You are known to other producers as a braggart with the proof being your constant referances as to being the # 1 clips4sale store. You looked just as unprofessional when you posted a clip of what you called "the most ticklish girl ever" and she didn't even look remotley close to that. In fact I personally belive our own "Lea" is much more ticklish than anyone you have ever captured on video. You look unprofessional and immature everytime you state the fact that you are the # 1 store in clips4sale. You look like a braggart and nothing more. Everyone can see that you hold that rank so why do you need to put it into so many of your posts? I have had nothing but respect for the other tickle producers and that USED to include you. The real professionals act like it. Bleu, Ticklecentral, Yaqi ect. You dont look professional at all in this thread. The fact is you look like an immature little boy that feels like he is losing something that was never really his. You have exposed yourself to everyone here and I belive you are sorry you even got into this thread. You had no right to jump in it the first place and its about time someone stood up to you. As far as your incorrect assumptions about "marketing schemes" the fact of the matter is that TH is targeting the adult website market. The porn market and it has been very succesfull at that so far. There is no marketing scheme about tickling real people that are into tickling. The reason we are doing that is because we are LEARNING from them. Just because you are doing it longer doesen't mean you do it better. You tickle beautiful women ( I sincerely doubt you ever found one in a grocery store or shopping mall) But you content looks all the same. I never laid any claim to do it better just DIFFERENT. Now you should go away and stay out of my threads in the future as I would never jump into one of yours or any other producers. You have opened such a can of worms here TIB by going after a female producer no less....Shame on you....how are those worms tasting right now?

 

[USATKLR]

TIb is anything it is YOU who look completely unprofessional and you have exposed yourself as such to the whole TMF and to all the other producers. (I would like to show here 2 emails I have gotten today from other producers about you but that wouldn't be fair to them and frankly I am tired of the dart throwing here that YOU started. It was completely unprofessional to stick your nose into my thread offering "blunt" as you called but rather "harsh" as I call it, advice when I did not ask you for it. You are known to other producers as a braggart with the proof being your constant referances as to being the # 1 clips4sale store. You looked just as unprofessional when you posted a clip of what you called "the most ticklish girl ever" and she didn't even look remotley close to that. In fact I personally belive our own "Lea" is much more ticklish than anyone you have ever captured on video. You look unprofessional and immature everytime you state the fact that you are the # 1 store in clips4sale. You look like a braggart and nothing more. Everyone can see that you hold that rank so why do you need to put it into so many of your posts? I have had nothing but respect for the other tickle producers and that USED to include you. The real professionals act like it. Bleu, Ticklecentral, Yaqi ect. You dont look professional at all in this thread. The fact is you look like an immature little boy that feels like he is losing something that was never really his. You have exposed yourself to everyone here and I belive you are sorry you even got into this thread. You had no right to jump in it the first place and its about time someone stood up to you. As far as your incorrect assumptions about "marketing schemes" the fact of the matter is that TH is targeting the adult website market. The porn market and it has been very succesfull at that so far. There is no marketing scheme about tickling real people that are into tickling. The reason we are doing that is because we are LEARNING from them. Just because you are doing it longer doesen't mean you do it better. You tickle beautiful women ( I sincerely doubt you ever found one in a grocery store or shopping mall) But you content looks all the same. I never laid any claim to do it better just DIFFERENT. Now you should go away and stay out of my threads in the future as I would never jump into one of yours or any other producers. You have opened such a can of worms here TIB by going after a female producer no less....Shame on you....how are those worms tasting right now?

go get em laney....

 

[tickler_n_black]

I never laid any claim to do it better just DIFFERENT.

This is a very interesting thread you started about 2 weeks after you opened up. Tell me, WHICH video companies that have been around for years were copying you? when you had been around for only days.

This thread is just proof that you came in with a bad attitude ... and still have it. We are all good at what we do. Incidently, I NEVER said anything about your clips. Only your attitude towards people.

This link is very informative as to how you came on the scene, day one, trying to stir the pot around here. 🙂

http://ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?t=60548

 

[Machival]

No matter what people say in this forum, postive or negative it will continue to improve my product past beyond the point of satisfaction and into an area of superiority. Some of you may argue that there is too much talking in the intro of the clip in this thread, without buying the full clip. OK.

You complain when people invest their time and effort into offering a FREE contribution when it doesn't suit your personal tastes yet when looking at the same usernames I see those same people putting NOTHING back into this community. Contributing and giving for FREE does feel good, but at the same time it is my right to edit the free material in anyway that I see fit. You cannot please all of the people all of the time, and that is fine too. If you guys ever make a contribution perhaps you will relate to me.

What I stand behind is my product, which is a quality product thats improving all the time. I will defend it as aggresively as I refine it to make it better. Period.

People who don't like my posts, or my FREE contributions into this community which take my time, and money to provide to you always have a choice...

It's that simple, to click or not to click. The decision is yours

Laney xoxo

http://www.ticklehorror.com

You're still not getting the point. Yes, your marketing should be about your customers' tastes. If you're not appealing to their tastes, then to whose tastes are you trying to appeal, and why? At the same time, it's not about your customers' tastes--it's about demonstrating to them what aspects of your product would compel them to buy. Most people are going to care more about her ticklishness and reaction than about her thoughts. Anyone can talk about their feelings on being tickled; it means nothing if they're not actually ticklish.

Thank you again for the clear illustration of your unprofessional attitude. Yes, yes, yes, you're going to be better than everyone. Oh, and gosh darn it, people like you. Please save your daily affirmations for your bathroom mirror, because we don't care.

Regardless of whether we click or not, we still have to put up with your attitude.

So far, you have yet to offer anything concrete to support your side of this debate. Any one of us can go "I AM SO GREAT I AM SO GREAT LOOK AT ME EVERYONE AND HOW GREAT I AM". It doesn't win any arguments, and just makes you look silly and self-aggrandizing.

 

[laney]

This is a very interesting thread you started about 2 weeks after you opened up. Tell me, WHICH video companies that have been around for years were copying you? when you had been around for only days.

This thread is just proof that you came in with a bad attitude ... and still have it. We are all good at what we do. Incidently, I NEVER said anything about your clips. Only your attitude towards people.

This link is very informative as to how you came on the scene, day one, trying to stir the pot around here. 🙂

http://ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?t=60548

That wasn't a bad attitude, that was enthusiastic inexperience posted at the same time my boyfriend was watching a bad western on TV. I quoted a phrase from the movie "There's a new sheriff in town" and by the way it was YOU who was the company doing the copying. Not of style or anything about tickling but of format your first being back in june with Fawn Smith 1 (smaller version) when you started offering your clips in dial-up size like we have from day 1. Something no other large tickle producer other than you felt they needed to do. But I supposed you did this for your "love of tickling" and not to sell more clips.

 

[a1532b]

Jeeze...Wow. We will need jerry springer in here to finish this arguement...I had no idea the tickling industry was such a cutthroat business...I don't really see why you two are fighting in the first place. I mean, you're both making clips, both making money, and both having fun in the process. Even if you are number 1 now doesn't mean that you will always be number 1. That's not a bad thing though. In a hundred years, who will care who was number 1 in the tickling business? I own clips from both of your stores. Both of you are doing a fantastic job. Let's all shake hands and be friends here. After all, there are still people in the world left to tickle!!!!🙂

Ps. By the way, I really do love both of your clip stores! 😀

 

[laney]

Jeeze...Wow. We will need jerry springer in here to finish this arguement...I had no idea the tickling industry was such a cutthroat business...I don't really see why you two are fighting in the first place. I mean, you're both making clips, both making money, and both having fun in the process. Even if you are number 1 now doesn't mean that you will always be number 1. That's not a bad thing though. In a hundred years, who will care who was number 1 in the tickling business? I own clips from both of your stores. Both of you are doing a fantastic job. Let's all shake hands and be friends here. After all, there are still people in the world left to tickle!!!!🙂

Ps. By the way, I really do love both of your clip stores! 😀

I could not agree with you more a1 and thank you for being a valued customer.

 

[laney]

any chance of posting a clip of wendy?
thanks much
J

here you go ttiicc, enjoy http://www.ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?t=71509

 

[mart]

Mart I edited the description of that clip. This clip was actually a best selling in clips4sale and I just checked the admin and it has sold 146 copies to date without a single complaint till now. If you email me privatley I will be happy to send you a free clip if you werent satisfied. About 40% of our tickle torture clips contain some sex in them sometimes hardcore like this clip (blow-job scene) I do have to disagree with you on 1 or 2 points about the actual clip though. The tickle action takes place in the first 6 minutes of the clip. I have to disagree when you say the tickler is to busy getting himself off (a 40 second blowjob scene where you cant actually even see it because his hand is blocking that while its working on Lindsays' clitoris) But if you mean the final 2 minutes of him eating her pussy was him "getting himself off" well thats a bit perplexing for me to understand. I personally do not know to many men who get themselves off by eating a woman's pussy but if you know any that get off that way please have them contact me asap and they can tickle me lol
Please though if you weren't satisfied I will be happy to have you pick out a clip from the store and send it to you.

Laney xoxo
http://www.ticklehorror.com

Thanks for your reply. No it is not the last part that I am referring to. Oddly enough, I don't find that offensive, though I would never get off on it.
What I am talking about is all the faffing around. She is begging all the time for him to stop. To stop what? He touches her foot for 2 seconds, then her body, then looks for his brush, uses that for five seconds, then resumes wandereing around her. I seems to me that what he really wants is to get his hands on her tits. I mean, you can't tell me that what he does to her feet is in any way tough, let alone merciless, nor is the rest of the tickling. That is what I am talking about.

 

[jaba]

thanks for helping in my decision

No matter what people say in this forum, postive or negative it will continue to improve my product past beyond the point of satisfaction and into an area of superiority. Some of you may argue that there is too much talking in the intro of the clip in this thread, without buying the full clip. OK.

You complain when people invest their time and effort into offering a FREE contribution when it doesn't suit your personal tastes yet when looking at the same usernames I see those same people putting NOTHING back into this community. Contributing and giving for FREE does feel good, but at the same time it is my right to edit the free material in anyway that I see fit. You cannot please all of the people all of the time, and that is fine too. If you guys ever make a contribution perhaps you will relate to me.

What I stand behind is my product, which is a quality product thats improving all the time. I will defend it as aggresively as I refine it to make it better. Period.

People who don't like my posts, or my FREE contributions into this community which take my time, and money to provide to you always have a choice...

It's that simple, to click or not to click. The decision is yours

Laney xoxo

http://www.ticklehorror.com

Wow.......with the negative feedback and negative energy all over this thread, I think you have helped to make the decision for me....

Quality tickling content is very important, but it is not nearly as important to me as positive relations with potential customers...

I like the way that Rene from Ticklingparadise has responded to the negative feedback that her company received prior to her taking over the company.

Because of her positive customer relations, and her proof that her company is now customer friendly, I am now a supporter of her work. Prior to her changes in the customer relations attitude of her company, Ticklingparadise could not pay me to watch any of their movies or media.

Good luck with your company, and thank you for helping me make my decision.

 

[Machival]

P.S., laney: I don't see any guidelines at the door that say that everyone who participates on these forums has to be the producer of tickling content. Business isn't all about the supply, you know--you have to have the demand as well. You're not going to sell anything to anyone if you tell them they all suck for not providing their own.

I find your continued attitude appalling. Be thankful you have more than just your personality to offer, because from what I can tell, it'd be completely unmarketable.

 

[asutickler]

Good luck with your company, and thank you for helping me make my decision.

Same here.

 

[Stevereeno]

TIB, Laney was right on how you shouldn't have been so intrusive with your advice. I am aware that TC is number 1. TC became number 1 for reasons. Whatever you did in becoming number 1, other people may not be able to do or may not want to do. You have to understand that and also respect that. Take some time and think about this. You gave Laney advice on how to be professional unprofessionally. And of all times to give a person advice, you give advice when that person is under enough stress as it is from her clip viewers. How did you expect Laney to react? You made it worse by broadcasting your company against hers while her company was under scrutiny. If Laney doesn't want to take shit from people, she doesn't have to. Everybody has a limit, including you. You better be on the ball whenever your shit hits the fan because what goes around comes around. Humble yourself and be thankful that you have been number 1 for so long and don't get sloppy. Everybody that is attacking Laney's personality, try to place yourself in her shoes and understand why she is acting the way she is.

 

[laney]

P.S., laney: I don't see any guidelines at the door that say that everyone who participates on these forums has to be the producer of tickling content. Business isn't all about the supply, you know--you have to have the demand as well. You're not going to sell anything to anyone if you tell them they all suck for not providing their own.

I find your continued attitude appalling. Be thankful you have more than just your personality to offer, because from what I can tell, it'd be completely unmarketable.

Well honeslty I don't know Machival. I can't get statistics on how well sales improve or not from posting here. You seem to like to create your own quotes like "I am great" and "you suck" things I have not said. One thing that is factual tho is that since this ugly thread started I have sold 185 tickle clips vaulting the store from # 21 to 13. By the way how do you like this for a trailer? Is this a good marketable trailer do you think? http://www.ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?t=71509

 

[theshire]

By the way how do you like this for a trailer? Is this a good marketable trailer do you think? http://www.ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?t=71509

Mmm, well I'll answer this in my own way. No, for me that isn't a good marketable trailer. I found nothing enjoyable in it. The girl didn't even smile once during it, let alone laugh - and this is a TICKLING video. Either she has just about the worst reactions I have ever seen or it's a pathetic attempt as faking 'true tickle torture'. She wasn't even being tickled very hard or intensely. Either way, I'll stick with TC Videos, thanks. Good luck in getting anywhere near them in the clips4sale rankings!

 

[Machival]

They're not really direct quotes, but summarizations of your attitude. You <i>did</i> essentially tell all of your customers who happen to not be producers of content that they have no right to express grievances with your methods, even though much of business is determined by demand and consumer interests (which is true even though consumers are often too lazy to fully exercise this power).

You've also been extremely boastful about things that you have yet to accomplish. "We have a superior product", et cetera. Most of what you've said, here, can be summarized as "LOOK AT ME, EVERYONE, I'M SO GREAT! CHECK OUT HOW GREAT I AM!"

I'll admit that TIB can be boastful as well, and has done so in his responses on this thread. But he's at least been sensible, and has brought up more of a point than "look at how great I am". He also hasn't thrown temper tantrums over criticism.

You don't come across as "defending your product"; you come across as an arrogant little brat who screams and stamps her feet when things don't go her way, and who gets all kissy and cute and will shit rainbows for anyone who happens to compliment her.

Before climbing onto your white horse, love, and claiming you're the top of the professional content producers, you might actually want to look into what a professional <i>attitude</i> really is. Otherwise, you're just a brat with a video camera and a computer.

 

[laney]

They're not really direct quotes, but summarizations of your attitude. You <i>did</i> essentially tell all of your customers who happen to not be producers of content that they have no right to express grievances with your methods, even though much of business is determined by demand and consumer interests (which is true even though consumers are often too lazy to fully exercise this power).

You've also been extremely boastful about things that you have yet to accomplish. "We have a superior product", et cetera. Most of what you've said, here, can be summarized as "LOOK AT ME, EVERYONE, I'M SO GREAT! CHECK OUT HOW GREAT I AM!"

I'll admit that TIB can be boastful as well, and has done so in his responses on this thread. But he's at least been sensible, and has brought up more of a point than "look at how great I am". He also hasn't thrown temper tantrums over criticism.

You don't come across as "defending your product"; you come across as an arrogant little brat who screams and stamps her feet when things don't go her way, and who gets all kissy and cute and will shit rainbows for anyone who happens to compliment her.

Before climbing onto your white horse, love, and claiming you're the top of the professional content producers, you might actually want to look into what a professional <i>attitude</i> really is. Otherwise, you're just a brat with a video camera and a computer.

I didn't tell anything to my "customers" I said it to the handful of people here(usually the same all the time) that do nothing but critiqe content they don't like which is FREE in the first place. I also never laid claim to being a top producer of any professional content (this is all amateur video). And you don't seem to contribute anything except rudeness and hostilty.

 

[Machival]

Is it really necessary for me to point out that some of your customers or potential customers might also be some of the people complaining that they can't make a decision about your product based on the sample? I mean, I could draw you up a Venn diagram, if you want, but it should be apparent that there's a potential for overlap.

If my tone is "[rude]" or "[hostile]" (though, might I also put forth, intelligent, succinct, and enlightening), it is only so in response to the aggressive, rude, and unprofessional tone you've set for this entire discussion. You've done very little but boast and blow up at people throughout this thread. I'm sure any objective reader will note quite a significant contrast between your behavior and mine.

I guess I stand corrected, though, on one count: your amateur attitude is perfectly suitable for, as you've described it, amateur content. While you may be moving toward the most successful position in sales, you're also racing exponentially to the most amateur position in attitude. If for nothing but your own good, you may want to consider correcting that.

 

[tickler_n_black]

Do you really think you would be the number one store in clips4sale for 9 months STRAIGHT without the # 3 google rating for tickling keywords?

yes.
but it doesn't matter much to me if i'm #1 or #50 on that list.
i only ever mentioned our position in this thread because you seemed to be so worried (and competitive) about your "status" on the top stores list.

giving you a little ribbing is all.

then you came unglued and hurled personalized insults at everyone on this thread that doesn't see things your way.



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[laney]

Tell me, WHICH video companies that have been around for years were copying you? when you had been around for only days.

Yours and only yours. Not in tickling but in clip format (dial-up specifically) but I suppose you did this (after seeing us do it from day 1) for your love of tickling and not to increase sales.

 

[laney]

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the REAL effort comes from going into the malls, the fast food employments, the colleges, and asking girls if they're ticklish, and would do a video.

I am going to play your game now TIB and be selective with the Quote tags.
I don't belive you have ever gotten a single model from a mall or a fast food establishment. You have a very wild imagination which unfortunatly you don't input into your videos. They are all the same (other than the type of bondage) and lack any humor or theme.