Has tickling content been going downhill since Tommy sold Tickleabuse ?

[Cave In]

All of it is going downhill.

Realtickling was the OG but seems to have been sold so RIP I guess.

Tickleabuse used to be great. Now it's a shell of its former self and can't even be considered to be the same studio. Pornstars aren't ticklish, stop trying to convince us otherwise!

Frenchtickling used to be amazing because of how candid it all seemed and how all the girls were girls next door types. Now he just follows the same system - 40% upperbody, 60% feet. end video. It sucks. Xavier had a goldmine and he butchered it. Every once in a while he has a great model (Shoutout to recent addition Yuming!) but for the most part I've completely lost interest.

I fucking ordered CUSTOMS for god's sake from RF Studio because I was just so annoyed with how crap everything was and knew the only hope I had of seeing a proper video was to have it done my way, but even they edited the video like shit and it turned out worse than it should have.

The only studio right now that isn't putting out straight trash is AmericanTickling but even he favors beauty over ticklishness every once in a while. It's not uncommon for him to have an absolute smokeshow strapped down to his table but who turns out to be as ticklish as a rock. Still though he's been the most consistent the past few years.

Czechtickling is also not bad.

UKTickling is mid but the girls are just caked in makeup and really overacting so it's offputting.

Zentickling is and always will be a solid 8/10. No complaints.

Gone are the days of Lolo, Brooke, Jackie French, and the other OG models who awakened me to this world, but I for one still go back to old TA and RT videos every once in a while because they were the best of the best.

RT in the early to mid 00's were the best by far, but sadly gone now.


I agree with you about French tickling, but its been posted on here before that he has said it was much easier to get models back in the 00s. Nowadays people are more aware of the consequences of where the content might end up, and also with the likes of OF, potential models can cut out the middle man producer and do what they want when they want and make their own money.
So he's stated that he can only really get fetish models now.
But then that's true pretty much everywhere now. Which is why theres a nostalgia for those old days.

Your point about his videos being too formulaic is interesting because I always thought Tickle Abuse suffered from the same problem. Their content bar some exceptions I always thought was pretty average, but each to their own in that regard.

Czechtickling is another that's not as good as it used to be.

Totally disagree about UK Tickling, I think its one of the best around at the moment, but being from the UK i am a little biased.

 

[yinzer]

RT in the early to mid 00's were the best by far, but sadly gone now.


I agree with you about French tickling, but its been posted on here before that he has said it was much easier to get models back in the 00s. Nowadays people are more aware of the consequences of where the content might end up, and also with the likes of OF, potential models can cut out the middle man producer and do what they want when they want and make their own money.
So he's stated that he can only really get fetish models now.
But then that's true pretty much everywhere now. Which is why theres a nostalgia for those old days.

Your point about his videos being too formulaic is interesting because I always thought Tickle Abuse suffered from the same problem. Their content bar some exceptions I always thought was pretty average, but each to their own in that regard.

Czechtickling is another that's not as good as it used to be.

Totally disagree about UK Tickling, I think its one of the best around at the moment, but being from the UK i am a little biased.

Is Czechtickling still making new content?

 

[yinzer]

Being that this thread is about how great Tickle Abuse used to be, I'd agree they had a lot of attractive models and did some great clips. But what I didn't like was it seemed like they were always using toe ties and I hate those fucking toe ties😆

 

[isurrender]

It may be due to the fact that the quality of Tickleabuses videos was so high, but ever since Tommy stopped shooting in NYC and then sold Tickleabuse, i just havent been into new content in the way i was when he was putting out his peak content in the years 2009-2014.

Does anyone else have this feeling ?

No, not at all. It's getting better. You just don't know where to look.

 

[SoleSensations]

What's wrong with Strykerentertainment, please expound on it? The only issue I have with the content are the lack of storylines and it also being a bit pricey.

I think you may have misread my post: I do like Stryker. I like their "classy approach" and how the guy stays quiet/stays out of frame for the most part during the tickling.

But yeah, they are a bit expensive; one of their recent videos was $60. I would buy from them more often if the prices weren't so high.

 

[CoochieKong]

I believe piracy killed quality. I think there's so much free content that producers struggle to be profitable and keeping their own stuff from being posted somewhere became next to impossible. Most of my favorite stuff is from the '00s. That's when we were in the right groove where most anyone could produce decent digital video but before anything could be posted on Pornhub or wherever people post stuff today.

 

[HomeMadeLemonade]

Great, that there are so many studios! 😻

 

[TickleMantis]

I believe piracy killed quality. I think there's so much free content that producers struggle to be profitable and keeping their own stuff from being posted somewhere became next to impossible. Most of my favorite stuff is from the '00s. That's when we were in the right groove where most anyone could produce decent digital video but before anything could be posted on Pornhub or wherever people post stuff today.

Piracy has definitely had an enormous impact. I won’t speak to the quality as such, but it’s easy to draw lines between the stark rise of stolen media and the nosedive in production value. Which isn’t to leave out the ease and availability with which more people have been able to produce their own videos, of course.

Again without commenting on quality, the biggest difference I’ve noticed -and this began long before TickleAbuse was sold- is the shift in providing any kind of narrative or unique setting. For many, many years now the vast majority of tickling are model tied to bed/model tied to table. That’s it, that’s the video. In the earlier days, producers were more inclined to include some semblance of a story/plot, and shoot at different locations. There was more creativity, generally speaking.

I’ve always preferred the videos with some loose story structure, but I fully accept that’s a personal opinion. There’s absolutely nothing objectively wrong with ‘model tied to table’. And I get it, I get why producers aren’t willing to go that extra mile anymore, and haven’t for years (decades?). Why put in the extra effort and money when most of the viewership will end up seeing it for free anyway?

It is much less about a fetishist with a fantasy and a camera and far more about the bottom line than it ever has been. I don’t blame them, people gotta make money, it just ends up being creatively less interesting in the pursuit of it.

 

[CoochieKong]

Piracy has definitely had an enormous impact. I won’t speak to the quality as such, but it’s easy to draw lines between the stark rise of stolen media and the nosedive in production value. Which isn’t to leave out the ease and availability with which more people have been able to produce their own videos, of course.

Again without commenting on quality, the biggest difference I’ve noticed -and this began long before TickleAbuse was sold- is the shift in providing any kind of narrative or unique setting. For many, many years now the vast majority of tickling are model tied to bed/model tied to table. That’s it, that’s the video. In the earlier days, producers were more inclined to include some semblance of a story/plot, and shoot at different locations. There was more creativity, generally speaking.

I’ve always preferred the videos with some loose story structure, but I fully accept that’s a personal opinion. There’s absolutely nothing objectively wrong with ‘model tied to table’. And I get it, I get why producers aren’t willing to go that extra mile anymore, and haven’t for years (decades?). Why put in the extra effort and money when most of the viewership will end up seeing it for free anyway?

It is much less about a fetishist with a fantasy and a camera and far more about the bottom line than it ever has been. I don’t blame them, people gotta make money, it just ends up being creatively less interesting in the pursuit of it.

I think the vids with something of a plot were largely produced for VHS/DVD. Once it was all digital sold on c4s, it became more 5 minute videos of models tied to a bed or in stocks.

 

[MikeMenace]

To quote the legendary Jumpin' Jeff Farmer, "Yep." Most of the stuff I buy on Clips4Sale was made in the 00s and early 10s. Thats when tickle videos peaked IMHO.

 

[smiegel]

RT in the early to mid 00's were the best by far, but sadly gone now.


I agree with you about French tickling, but its been posted on here before that he has said it was much easier to get models back in the 00s. Nowadays people are more aware of the consequences of where the content might end up, and also with the likes of OF, potential models can cut out the middle man producer and do what they want when they want and make their own money.
So he's stated that he can only really get fetish models now.
But then that's true pretty much everywhere now. Which is why theres a nostalgia for those old days.

Your point about his videos being too formulaic is interesting because I always thought Tickle Abuse suffered from the same problem. Their content bar some exceptions I always thought was pretty average, but each to their own in that regard.

Czechtickling is another that's not as good as it used to be.

Totally disagree about UK Tickling, I think its one of the best around at the moment, but being from the UK i am a little biased.

I would like to mention two newer studios that I think still make excellent content from time to time: Real Sole Encounters and The Tickle Room. While they sometimes do settle for being just another stop on an OF model’s circuit, they still get genuinely ticklish newbie and amateur models that vary nicely in age and personality.

 

[sman9000]

All of it is going downhill.

Realtickling was the OG but seems to have been sold so RIP I guess.

Tickleabuse used to be great. Now it's a shell of its former self and can't even be considered to be the same studio. Pornstars aren't ticklish, stop trying to convince us otherwise!

Frenchtickling used to be amazing because of how candid it all seemed and how all the girls were girls next door types. Now he just follows the same system - 40% upperbody, 60% feet. end video. It sucks. Xavier had a goldmine and he butchered it. Every once in a while he has a great model (Shoutout to recent addition Yuming!) but for the most part I've completely lost interest.

I fucking ordered CUSTOMS for god's sake from RF Studio because I was just so annoyed with how crap everything was and knew the only hope I had of seeing a proper video was to have it done my way, but even they edited the video like shit and it turned out worse than it should have.

The only studio right now that isn't putting out straight trash is AmericanTickling but even he favors beauty over ticklishness every once in a while. It's not uncommon for him to have an absolute smokeshow strapped down to his table but who turns out to be as ticklish as a rock. Still though he's been the most consistent the past few years.

Czechtickling is also not bad.

UKTickling is mid but the girls are just caked in makeup and really overacting so it's offputting.

Zentickling is and always will be a solid 8/10. No complaints.

Gone are the days of Lolo, Brooke, Jackie French, and the other OG models who awakened me to this world, but I for one still go back to old TA and RT videos every once in a while because they were the best of the best.

@ZenTickling Zen Tickling is great! I totally agree @Tickle Lover 1 !

 

[FootTickleManiac]

I know many will disagree, but in my opinion, tickle fetish content in general has been in the toilet for several years now. However, as of the last few years like someone else stated, it's now "scary bad" vs just bad.

But, there are still some gems from time to time like back when, you just have to dig around c4s and other places that vid makers sell content to find them.

 

[suikoden]

Yes. That's not to say there isn't still good material out there.

Back in the heyday of Tickle Abuse, you also had Czech Tickling, Zen Tickling and of course French Tickling was well-established. Then you had some smaller, 'home made, girl next door classics' like Vellication Video (RIP Irving Krebb) and TMJ Productions. The RF came along with some amazing content etc...

I think a few things happened. The endless stream of hot 'non-fetish models' in studios like TA and Czech started to dry up. I understand FT used to get a lot of models through university adverts, friend of friend recommendations etc. Hence we had classics like Air Hostess Nelly. These were all amateur models who shot some niche, fun stuff for some extra money. I imagine it's the same for the other studios.

Then we had instances of stalking and doxing. Most people know that this nearly wrecked Prya's life so there is no way she will ever have anything to do with the community again. Other studios had their models stalked and threatened with doxing. I may be mistaken but I think Zen disappeared out of disgust for a while because this happened to some of his models.

You also had the rise of sites like the Hub where content was pirated so producers didn't make as much money and girls who were shooting niche, fun stuff for what they likely thought was a pretty small audience suddenly found themselves up on these sites. With all this there's far less incentive for the kind of models TA, Czech and FT used to attract to do any filming. The risks of being outed are higher and the internet is forever. So instead you end up with the same circuit of fetish models shooting with everyone and faking it. A lot of producers disappeared, it just wasn't cost effective to continue.

I think the tickling clip industry was in a slump for a long while because of all this.

But there is still some great stuff out there. TickleYes seems to be putting out great content and finding cute models. Siberia Fetish has that 'girl next door, friends shooting with friends' feel from some of the older 'home made' studios. Czech is back in some capacity and there are other studios like Door44 and UKLer who have some good stuff out there.

For me the heyday was C4S but I know a lot of stuff goes up on insta and other platforms and not everyone is on this forum. I saw a gif from a guy called Ler.Of.The.Burg who has a private insta and I would pay for full clips of some of their stuff. I daresay the average age on this platform tracks higher and newer producers aren't posting here or on C4S as much. So it's definitely out there but you have to look a little harder. For example, a lot of these newer producers will post promo clips on Reddit tickling subs with details on where to contact them to buy full clips.

 

[luvgirlsfeet]

I admit I do miss his videos. My favorite tickle model was Dancer Diane. She was super ticklish everywhere. I think she made about 5 videos. The first one I had seen of hers she was having her feet worshiped by Brooke.

 

[St. Louie]

I think it’s naive to say people aren’t faking it. Not every model…but there’s plenty. Hell…even Cheri Deville came out and admitted it was all an act. And why….because it sold videos. Shit…I bought many myself. IMO…once people learned that they can monetize their fetish with great ease (probably using an iPhone and an OF account) it’s become easy to “set up shop” and produce less than mediocre quality films. Me personally, I think I can tell pretty easily who’s faking. For some models I don’t care because they have other attributes that interest me (natural beauty…big feet…etc) It’s the brutally obvious fakers that I don’t enjoy and let’s be honest…it takes about 10 seconds to tell who’s faking. So…if the model or video floats your boat, even if they are clearly faking it….then enjoy. If it doesn’t…then don’t buy it. Pretty simple.

 

[Louis_19]

I agree the OG Tickle Abuse was so good Brooke and Tasha were so good I miss them dearly honestly. They were the one who got me into belly button tickling and belly raspberry tickling videos/clips because that how good of ticklers they were. Especially Brooke she was really into the belly button tickling and loved blowing raspberries on her ticklees when she had the chance. Had to save my favorites. I know they sold it to British company or something but yeah it just off putting it doesn't feel genuine it just feels fake.
And I feel the same way with those who want real feet tickling/tickling but for me it like that with belly button tickling and belly raspberry tickling I want them to be genuine not playing it up just to put on a show. Tickling should be genuine I mean it tickling for fuck sake but even we can't escape the people who have to porn acting there way into everything. But there are smaller tickling studio popping up I found a Italian and Mexican tickling studios that I fell in love with on c4s. And reddit seems to be a gold mine for smaller studios so don't be scared to look for small tickling studios.

 

[Louis_19]

Piracy has definitely had an enormous impact. I won’t speak to the quality as such, but it’s easy to draw lines between the stark rise of stolen media and the nosedive in production value. Which isn’t to leave out the ease and availability with which more people have been able to produce their own videos, of course.

Again without commenting on quality, the biggest difference I’ve noticed -and this began long before TickleAbuse was sold- is the shift in providing any kind of narrative or unique setting. For many, many years now the vast majority of tickling are model tied to bed/model tied to table. That’s it, that’s the video. In the earlier days, producers were more inclined to include some semblance of a story/plot, and shoot at different locations. There was more creativity, generally speaking.

I’ve always preferred the videos with some loose story structure, but I fully accept that’s a personal opinion. There’s absolutely nothing objectively wrong with ‘model tied to table’. And I get it, I get why producers aren’t willing to go that extra mile anymore, and haven’t for years (decades?). Why put in the extra effort and money when most of the viewership will end up seeing it for free anyway?

It is much less about a fetishist with a fantasy and a camera and far more about the bottom line than it ever has been. I don’t blame them, people gotta make money, it just ends up being creatively less interesting in the pursuit of it.

I definitely get what your saying it rare to see a tickling video nowafays with a storyline or just roleplaying but I think they do that on purpose because they want you to buy customs from them so they can do roleplaying and stories like that. The only time I see tickling studios do roleplaying is when someone orders a custom form them and they upload that custom on there store.

 

[ThatPayPhoneGuy]

It may be due to the fact that the quality of Tickleabuses videos was so high, but ever since Tommy stopped shooting in NYC and then sold Tickleabuse, i just havent been into new content in the way i was when he was putting out his peak content in the years 2009-2014.

Does anyone else have this feeling ?

Agreed. I've been collecting California Star's Tied & Tickled videos and while their production value is above most (sets, skits, ect) I believe a lot of the tickling is fake. Tommy's stuff was basic gonzo, but it was good Gonzo, as in Lexington Steele Mercenary Pictures level gonzo. I miss it.

Unfortunately that's what happens when people posts stuff on the internet. My guess is Tom stopped make any money because of piracy and eventually gave up and sold the company.

 

[bluey1]

It may be due to the fact that the quality of Tickleabuses videos was so high, but ever since Tommy stopped shooting in NYC and then sold Tickleabuse, i just havent been into new content in the way i was when he was putting out his peak content in the years 2009-2014.

Does anyone else have this feeling ?

Tickle Abuse was really good in those years around 2010-14. And they had lots of really good models - Brooke and Tasha, just to name two.

But back then, there was Tickle Abuse, Tickle Intensive, and Tickle Central all making good videos at the same time.

Then there was Czech Tickling Submission, making good videos.

French Tickling had some really hot girls, but the videos just seemed like the same thing over and over again, and tbh they felt fake or at least overacted.

However, I think the UK Tickling has improved significantly over the last 10 years, and tbh, now UK Tickling is the only studio I buy from and is far and away the best studio. As the model reacts genuinely and the videos are good.

So, I would say there are fewer good studios; but the quality of UK Tickling videos now is much better than Tickle Abuse's then.

 

[brotherted]

All of it is going downhill.

Realtickling was the OG but seems to have been sold so RIP I guess.

Tickleabuse used to be great. Now it's a shell of its former self and can't even be considered to be the same studio. Pornstars aren't ticklish, stop trying to convince us otherwise!

Frenchtickling used to be amazing because of how candid it all seemed and how all the girls were girls next door types. Now he just follows the same system - 40% upperbody, 60% feet. end video. It sucks. Xavier had a goldmine and he butchered it. Every once in a while he has a great model (Shoutout to recent addition Yuming!) but for the most part I've completely lost interest.

I fucking ordered CUSTOMS for god's sake from RF Studio because I was just so annoyed with how crap everything was and knew the only hope I had of seeing a proper video was to have it done my way, but even they edited the video like shit and it turned out worse than it should have.

The only studio right now that isn't putting out straight trash is AmericanTickling but even he favors beauty over ticklishness every once in a while. It's not uncommon for him to have an absolute smokeshow strapped down to his table but who turns out to be as ticklish as a rock. Still though he's been the most consistent the past few years.

Czechtickling is also not bad.

UKTickling is mid but the girls are just caked in makeup and really overacting so it's offputting.

Zentickling is and always will be a solid 8/10. No complaints.

Gone are the days of Lolo, Brooke, Jackie French, and the other OG models who awakened me to this world, but I for one still go back to old TA and RT videos every once in a while because they were the best of the best.

This comment checks out with me. For the record, Tickle Central and Tickle Town also belong in the Hall of Fame. (For fans of verbal / psychological teasing to accompany the physical hijinks, like me, Tickle Central is especially missed.)

 

[gokun989]

anyone have the old clips of missi from tickleintensive in stocks?

 

[Elyos]

Not going downhill at all. The niche has many good vid creators still, and there are great models out there.