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helping loved ones quit smoking

emilyemilyemily

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i've just recently started seeing a really great dude who smokes a pack a day. it bothers me--not because i think it's gross or because i'm embarrassed to date a smoker--but because i worry about his health and just want him to reach his full potential in life. i want to encourage him to quit, but i don't know how to without being the token obnoxious naggy-ass girlfriend and i don't feel comfortable depriving him when he has a craving. he's dealt with hardcore drug addiction before, but he says that nicotine has always been the hardest for him to kick and i just don't know how to help. does anyone have any experience with this situation? i could really use some advice.
 
It is hard to watch people you care about inhaling nicotine when you know ALL the harmful aspects of it, especially the negative aspects towards their health. My sister was a smoker for over 10 years and finally quit when it took a toll on her health. It made it difficult for her to breathe and eventually was one of the reasons she developed Hodgkins disease, or cancer of the lymphnodes. She immediately quit smoking as did her boyfriend to support her. It was difficult but the two of them did it together 🙂 My father also quit for my step-mom a few years back because she really wanted him to because of health reasons too. It is VERY hard to quit, but with love and support it is possible. I myself have never been a smoker, but I watched how hard it was for my sister to quit. It takes a HEAVY dose of reality to really knock people out of the habit and/or addiction to nicotine.
 
It is a tough habit to break... I've been smoking for over ten years. But, I have found that physical activity has help reduce my urges. Perhaps, if you two get a gym membership, or even going for a jog around a park. What are his hobbies? Getting him to be more proactive with his passions on a daily basis, could also be another avenue to look at.
 
Some of my ex's have tried this with me and there was instant resentment. While your intent is good, he is well aware of the danger he is putting himself in. My reason for continuing is probably different from his, but if he doesn't want to stop, leave it alone because you WILL be the naggy-ass girlfriend.

However, if he does want to stop, try nicotine patches, gum, or a perhaps a visit to the doctor that may suggest some helpful things.
 
My mom's been a chain smoker for over thirty years. She has tried to quit many times, and has always said that the people who annoy her the most are the ones that try and force her to quit.

Don't force him. Encourage him, and if he's ignorant to it, then enlighten him to the harmful side effects of smoking cigarettes, but don't give him an ultimatum. If you can't handle him having a nicotine addiction, and he refuses to stop... well, there's really only one thing to do, unfortunately.

You have to accept him for who he is if you want it to work; even if he's going to be breathing through a hole in his throat some day.
 
If you really want my advice, I will give it to you. You won't like it, but I will. Here it is. And do be sure to suffer through and read the whole thing.

First of all, you say, "I want him to reach his full potential in life." I don't know this person, but odds are smoking may not be the only thing holding him back. I'm sure he is a really cool guy, but a pack a day habit is just a surface problem.

Everyone knows, including he, that he needs to quit. So you say you don't want to be the "naggy-ass girlfriend." You don't have to be. You do need to get on him to cut down so he can save money and become more healthy. You have to help him ease out of the habit. (you also said "token" girlfriend. I don't get that. is this a sitcom and he has a bunch of other girlfriends? whatever)

He says that nicotine is hardest to quit. There are heroin addicts that will tell you quitting smoking is way harder. I am addicted to caffeine. But it isn't the headaches that get me. I work in a grocery store and I look at Mountain Dew 2 liters all day! Cigs are everywhere and there is nothing he or you can do about that.

The best thing you can do is be supportive. Even if it means letting him smoke. Just help him ease off, and don't get discouraged if it takes a while. Patience is the key. Understanding and encouragement are important. My friend just stopped smoking for his son. He wouldn't do it for his friends, wife, mother or other people that care about him. But when his 4-year-old said he wanted his daddy to be healthy and not have scary white skin (commercial) that is what made him kick it (again). The most important thing to remember is he may not quit because of you. He has to find his own reason.

But I always think of what that one guy whose name I can't remember said (to misquote):

"Quitting smoking is easy; I've done it 100 times."
 
If you really want my advice, I will give it to you. You won't like it, but I will. Here it is. And do be sure to suffer through and read the whole thing.

First of all, you say, "I want him to reach his full potential in life." I don't know this person, but odds are smoking may not be the only thing holding him back. I'm sure he is a really cool guy, but a pack a day habit is just a surface problem.

Everyone knows, including he, that he needs to quit. So you say you don't want to be the "naggy-ass girlfriend." You don't have to be. You do need to get on him to cut down so he can save money and become more healthy. You have to help him ease out of the habit. (you also said "token" girlfriend. I don't get that. is this a sitcom and he has a bunch of other girlfriends? whatever)

He says that nicotine is hardest to quit. There are heroin addicts that will tell you quitting smoking is way harder. I am addicted to caffeine. But it isn't the headaches that get me. I work in a grocery store and I look at Mountain Dew 2 liters all day! Cigs are everywhere and there is nothing he or you can do about that.

The best thing you can do is be supportive. Even if it means letting him smoke. Just help him ease off, and don't get discouraged if it takes a while. Patience is the key. Understanding and encouragement are important. My friend just stopped smoking for his son. He wouldn't do it for his friends, wife, mother or other people that care about him. But when his 4-year-old said he wanted his daddy to be healthy and not have scary white skin (commercial) that is what made him kick it (again). The most important thing to remember is he may not quit because of you. He has to find his own reason.

But I always think of what that one guy whose name I can't remember said (to misquote):

"Quitting smoking is easy; I've done it 100 times."

This is pretty much it as I see things. I smoked for over thirty years and it was tough to try and just quit. I had my moment of truth sitting right here and lighting one up. I took the day off because I thought I had a bad cold. The first drag of that cigarette felt like my lungs were on fire and no matter what I did I couldn't draw a breath of air. That feeling was new to me, very painful and frightening. I finally got enough air to drag myself to my doctor's office at the hospital. What got me was borderline pneumonia along with borderline broncitis....I never had these before. So now instead of some half asses stab at quitting I had a real reason. Every time I craved a smoke I remembered the pain and what it was like laying on the floor in my den, unable to breathe. That was what got me to quit.

Emily, your friend has to truly have the desire to quit. Everyone's reasons are different. If he ever has the circumstance, his own deep personal reason, or just plain scare like I had then he will tough it out and give them up. If he can weather that first giant craving then he can remember what it felt like and they will start getting milder and there will be more time between the craving until they go away. But He has to want to quit. You can't do it for him. And he may have a short fuse for a month or so, depending upon his personality.

Another incentive......I smoked two packs a day....5 bucks a pack for a long time. The math is I am now saving about 250 to 280 dollars a month. Multiply that by 12. I hope your friend beats smoking, Emily.
 
First he has to want to stop for himself, if not forget it, its not going to happen . If to he does decide to stop then I personally recommend "The easy way to stop smoking " By Alan Carr. It worked for me . The basic premise of this book is that nicotine is not nearly as strong a drug as we think it is and that most of the withdrawal symptons we feel are actually only anxiety about quiting rather than a physical effect. The book shows you how to deal with this anxiety first, and once youve done that. quiting is virtuaully withdrawal symptom free.
 
My mother tried to get my father to stop smoking for the last 25 years of their life together, until he died of emphysema. Among other things, she sent him to doctors who specialized in getting smokers to quit and to a hypnotist.

All she succeeded in doing was make him go outdoors to smoke, never in their house. It is a very tough addiction to break. I have no useful advice, I'm afraid.

But I always think of what that one guy whose name I can't remember said (to misquote):

"Quitting smoking is easy; I've done it 100 times."
It was Mark Twain (Samuel Clemens) who said that.
 
(you also said "token" girlfriend. I don't get that. is this a sitcom and he has a bunch of other girlfriends? whatever)

no, i said "token naggy-ass girlfriend". you need to read the whole phrase in order for it to make sense. 😉

thanks for the advice, everyone. i'm not entirely sure where he stands in terms of wanting to quit, so i'll talk to him about it and we'll go from there.
 
no, i said "token naggy-ass girlfriend". you need to read the whole phrase in order for it to make sense. 😉

thanks for the advice, everyone. i'm not entirely sure where he stands in terms of wanting to quit, so i'll talk to him about it and we'll go from there.

If you think he's ready (and it really has to be his idea), you might want to talk about "cutting down" rather than quitting cold turkey. As stroker very aptly pointed out, the anxiety of quitting is pretty powerful. My wife used to smoke a pack a day, now, she's down to a total of 2 or 3 cigarettes over the course of an entire day. She'll quit eventually, but for now, it's a huge improvement.
 
Some of my ex's have tried this with me and there was instant resentment. While your intent is good, he is well aware of the danger he is putting himself in. My reason for continuing is probably different from his, but if he doesn't want to stop, leave it alone because you WILL be the naggy-ass girlfriend.

However, if he does want to stop, try nicotine patches, gum, or a perhaps a visit to the doctor that may suggest some helpful things.

First he has to want to stop for himself, if not forget it, its not going to happen . If to he does decide to stop then I personally recommend "The easy way to stop smoking " By Alan Carr. It worked for me . The basic premise of this book is that nicotine is not nearly as strong a drug as we think it is and that most of the withdrawal symptons we feel are actually only anxiety about quiting rather than a physical effect. The book shows you how to deal with this anxiety first, and once youve done that. quiting is virtuaully withdrawal symptom free.

If you think he's ready (and it really has to be his idea), you might want to talk about "cutting down" rather than quitting cold turkey. As stroker very aptly pointed out, the anxiety of quitting is pretty powerful. My wife used to smoke a pack a day, now, she's down to a total of 2 or 3 cigarettes over the course of an entire day. She'll quit eventually, but for now, it's a huge improvement.

^This is all good information. It has to be his idea, and he has to WANT to.

This is pretty much it as I see things. I smoked for over thirty years and it was tough to try and just quit. I had my moment of truth sitting right here and lighting one up. I took the day off because I thought I had a bad cold. The first drag of that cigarette felt like my lungs were on fire and no matter what I did I couldn't draw a breath of air. That feeling was new to me, very painful and frightening. I finally got enough air to drag myself to my doctor's office at the hospital. What got me was borderline pneumonia along with borderline broncitis....I never had these before. So now instead of some half asses stab at quitting I had a real reason. Every time I craved a smoke I remembered the pain and what it was like laying on the floor in my den, unable to breathe. That was what got me to quit.

Emily, your friend has to truly have the desire to quit. Everyone's reasons are different. If he ever has the circumstance, his own deep personal reason, or just plain scare like I had then he will tough it out and give them up. If he can weather that first giant craving then he can remember what it felt like and they will start getting milder and there will be more time between the craving until they go away. But He has to want to quit. You can't do it for him. And he may have a short fuse for a month or so, depending upon his personality.

Another incentive......I smoked two packs a day....5 bucks a pack for a long time. The math is I am now saving about 250 to 280 dollars a month. Multiply that by 12. I hope your friend beats smoking, Emily.

^This is also good information. There needs to be some sort of reason for him to WANT to quit, whether fear of not being able to breathe, or getting too pissed off about the cost, or even if it DID happen to irritate you with it making it difficult for YOU to breathe (Granted, the way around that is to go outside, but one can always display irritation about lingering odors and bad breath--NOT THAT I'M ENCOURAGING you to be the "pain in the butt" girlfriend. That can work, but also backfire! 😉 😛 ).

Basically, before you can get to helping him in any way, he has to want to help himself, first. That's going to be the hard part, because something like this... people tend to take the health risks for granted, like small, miniature transactions being drained from one's 'bank account of life', until Death passes by, casually grazing one's lungs or throat in passing, giving them that friendly reminder, "You're approaching your limit. Soon, it's going to be time to pay up." I don't know how old either of you are, but I'm speculating that he's a younger guy, and that horrible day of agonizing, deathly coughing fits are a long way off. It's kinda like life insurance, or purchasing cemetery real estate, something younger people simply don't worry about, because it's not gonna happen anytime soon.

If I were in your shoes, I think I'd simply BE the "pain in the butt" significant other who simply doesn't want to put up with the annoying aspects, because at a younger age, that's more likely to be effective. Granted, that sounds a little 'ultimatum-ish', and it CAN completely backfire, but if you're truly concerned about the health risks down the road, why should you have to suffer watching somebody you care deeply for slowly kill themselves? You're still young, and you've got a whole life of opportunities and experiences down the road that you shouldn't be bogged down worrying about the repercussions of someone's bad personal health choice? To me, if you don't try to put your hands directly in making him quit, but... I dunno, maybe avoid kissing him, or standing too close when he lights up, or giving other passive hints that it's not something you want to deal with, but you're not going to try to stop him, it has the potential to plant the idea in his head to try to quit, because how often is he gonna wanna swig mouthwash, pop gum or breath-mints, and Febreeze his clothes before he decides it's too much work? If it's his idea, he'll be more inclined to try harder, and he can't really resent you for it, because you're not TELLING him or MAKING him quit. You're just not putting up with nasty things you shouldn't have to deal with. It's not like something he CAN'T do anything about that a supportive girlfriend should 'have to accept'. He'd be wrong to tell you so. I understand if you don't wanna go this route, because I know it sounds 'dickish', but it's gonna be hard otherwise, because people aren't emotionally affected by health risks until they're physically affected.
 
Tell him you're allergic.

Or just tell him how you feel, but honestly, it's not that easy, so expect a lot of relapses if he does decide to quit.
 
Tell him you're allergic.

Or just tell him how you feel, but honestly, it's not that easy, so expect a lot of relapses if he does decide to quit.

Good point...

I'm thinking, now:

1. He will continue smoking, and you will lose attraction over time.

2. He will quit, and become the man, you will actually love.

So, look out for your interest too...
 
But I always think of what that one guy whose name I can't remember said (to misquote):

"Quitting smoking is easy; I've done it 100 times."


Here is the real deal on it. I smoked from age 12 (yes 12) 1981, to age 23 1992. I bought a "self-hypnosis" tape that didn't work BUT the intro to the tape said something that hit me square in the common sense region of my brain.

Smokers quit all the time. Durring the periods in which they don't smoke, they are still smokers who have quit.

In order to ACTUALLY STOP SMOKING FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE you have to become a NON-SMOKER!

Take Persephone for example:

I myself have never been a smoker, but I watched how hard it was for my sister to quit.

She is a non smoker. Because of this, she could hang out with her smoking sister all day and never have any temptation to light up. No magic trick involved...she simply is a non smoker.


Now, allthough that revelation the intro to the hypno tape did allow me to become a non smoker that day and never have another cigarette again, I do understand the stark reality that it is not that easy for everyone. I WILL however say that the new mindset that it put me in, that is, becoming a non smoker, DID kill all mental craving for a cigarette outright. At least it did for me. In other words, your results may vary.

I do wish you the best of luck for him and you and anyone else that smokes and wants to stop.

If anyone wishes to PM me about this at all, you are more than welcome!! I am not labeling myself as the "stop smoking guru". I just genuinely hate cigaretts and genuinely want to help.

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Exercise works! Really well. I used to be a right lazy bastard, and heavy smoker but after starting to run and go to the gym (and actually enjoying it) my cravings have died down.

As someone before said, try encouraging a gym membership. But don't push too much.

If all else fails, try blackmail.....
 
Been smoking for ten years (only 24, too, no bueno). I've been with a few non-smoking girlfriends; depending on my feelings for them, I'd either ignore their requests for cessation completely, or I'd go to great lengths to never smell like an ashtray around them.

Methinks this might happen to you as well... depends on his feelings. I know that for people who do not smoke the habit is filthy... smells bad, looks bad, costs money, makes you ugly.

Good luck dude!
 
This:

Emily, your friend has to truly have the desire to quit. Everyone's reasons are different. If he ever has the circumstance, his own deep personal reason, or just plain scare like I had then he will tough it out and give them up. If he can weather that first giant craving then he can remember what it felt like and they will start getting milder and there will be more time between the craving until they go away. But He has to want to quit. You can't do it for him. And he may have a short fuse for a month or so, depending upon his personality.

...Is completely true. But you have to realize you can't make someone want to quit, and if you don't want to be a nag, I wouldn't try. He's already kicked hardcore drugs, I imagine smoking fulfills some psychological need he has. If you mean what you say about not finding it gross or embarrassing, then my advice is to accept his habit. Who ever said smokers can't 'reach their full potential' anyway? Unless he's aspiring to be a triathlete, smoking won't hold him back from anything.

I wish you the best of luck, girl. :twohugs:
 
no, i said "token naggy-ass girlfriend". you need to read the whole phrase in order for it to make sense. 😉

thanks for the advice, everyone. i'm not entirely sure where he stands in terms of wanting to quit, so i'll talk to him about it and we'll go from there.

No I read the whole thing, Just didn't quote it all, but.... If you are the 'token naggy-ass gf' to misquote. Does that mean there is a token sweet and spoiling gf and a token African American gf. You never answered the question anyway. Reading the whole phrase doesn't...never mind.

You are welcome on the advice. And talking with him about it is the first step. This way you can be the token understanding girl friend. ;P
 
Sorry, i have nothing to say. In fact, i'm also looking for some advice to kick the butt
 
thanks, guys. he broke up with me the other day, soooo i guess i don't need this thread anymore...
 
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