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HIGH SCHOOL -- 1957 vs. 2010

wiz314

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You should know that by today's standards none of us was supposed to ever make it.



HIGH SCHOOL -- 1957 vs. 2010



Scenario 1:

Jack goes quail hunting before school and then pulls into the school parking lot with his shotgun in his truck's gun rack.

1957 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack's shotgun, goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.

2010 - School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.



Scenario 2:

Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school.

1957 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.

2010 - Police called and SWAT team arrives -- they arrest both Johnny and Mark. They are both charged with assault and both expelled even though Johnny started it.



Scenario 3:

Jeffrey will not be still in class, he disrupts other students.

1957 - Jeffrey sent to the Principal's office and given a good paddling by the Principal. He then returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again.

2010 - Jeffrey is given huge doses of Ritalin. He becomes a zombie. He is then tested for ADD. The family gets extra money (SSI) from the government because Jeffrey has a disability.



Scenario 4:

Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.

1957 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college and becomes a successful businessman.

2010 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse, Billy is removed to foster care and joins a gang. The state psychologist is told by Billy's sister that she remembers being abused herself and their dad goes to prison. Billy's mom has an affair with the psychologist.



Scenario 5:

Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school.

1957 - Mark shares his aspirin with the Principal out on the smoking dock.

2010 - The police are called and Mark is expelled from school for drug violations. His car is then searched for drugs and weapons.



Scenario 6:

Pedro fails high school English.

1957 - Pedro goes to summer school, passes English and goes to college.

2010 - Pedro's cause is taken up by state. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist. ACLU files class action lawsuit against the state school system and Pedro's English teacher. English is then banned from core curriculum. Pedro is given his diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.



Scenario 7:

Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from the Fourth of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle and blows up a red ant bed.

1957 - Ants die.

2010 - ATF, Homeland Security and the FBI are all called. Johnny is charged with domestic terrorism. The FBI investigates his parents - and all siblings are removed from their home and all computers are confiscated. Johnny's dad is placed on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again.



Scenario 8:

Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary hugs him to comfort him.

1957 – In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing.

2010 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison. Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy.
 
Baloney, but amusing. In reality, if people weren't so repressed and miserable and trained to ignore everything 'unpleasant' back then, like child and spousal abuse and alcoholism in families and such, the turmoil of the '60's and beyond wouldn't have happened and we wouldn't have many of the needed services we have now. A contented society doesn't need to rebel. The 50's were bright and shiny on the surface, but from the back of the bus many people couldn't see it.
 
Jack goes quail hunting before school and then pulls into the school parking lot with his shotgun in his truck's gun rack.

1957 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack's shotgun, goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.

2010 - School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.


That might be an extreme example, but there is plenty of lunacy and paranoia over this issue in real life.


http://www.thecypresstimes.com/arti...ACES_EXPULSION_OVER_GUN_LOCKED_IN_TRUNK/37246
 
OH I loved those times, oh I wasnt born till 1959 but everyone seemed to have thicker skin were now you have to be PC so you don't offend someone. Rememeber when the trash man was the trash man not the sanitization engineer and the paper boy was the paper boy not cirulation expediter. Now some of the change is good just have a problem with zero tolerance. But just my luck I had to feel that belt on my butt when I messed up and god all migthly I think my Dads belt was on my ass more then his pants but turned out ok I guess. But I'm glad to say that my 15 year old daughters never been hit so the cycle can change.
 
Clarifications:

Scenario 3: Jeffrey is diagnosed with ADD not by a medical professional but by someone fresh out of getting her Bachelors in psychology after sleeping during most of her courses the past 4 years who doesn't actually know a thing about medical/psychological disorders.

And to the people who say these are exaggerations... they all look about right to me. Then again I live in California...
 
A bit exagerated....but I get your point.

GQ
.......... "A BIT EXAGERATED"???
 
Plus, seperate water fountains just means shorter lines for everyone...
 
Scenario 1:

Jack goes quail hunting before school and then pulls into the school parking lot with his shotgun in his truck's gun rack.

1957 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack's shotgun, goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.

2010 - School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.


This one is legit. Just replace "1957" with "1995 at asutickler's backwoods Minnesota high school." We had to have had more guns in the parking lot, per capita, than ANY other high school ANYWHERE... And yet one was never used in an act of violence or even a threatening manner. They were just for hunting.

Weird, huh?
 
Scenario 6 is just nonsense.

Scenario 3: The present era isn't perfect, but thinking that the answer to every behavior problem is a good paddling is really sad.

As for Scenario 1, I refuse to believe that the so-called 1957 scenario isn't happening all the time right now in the good-ole-boy South.
 
Scenario 9:

Wiz314 publishes a crude manifesto about how the government is failing the American people, and society is being run by a bunch of incompetent ninnies.

2010- people post their own brief retorts and get on with their lives.

1957- Wiz314's name is added to a secret list of "political subversives" and is wiretapped by the FBI, eventually being questioned by HUAC and losing his job.
 
You should know that by today's standards none of us was supposed to ever make it.



HIGH SCHOOL -- 1957 vs. 2010



Scenario 1:

Jack goes quail hunting before school and then pulls into the school parking lot with his shotgun in his truck's gun rack.

1957 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack's shotgun, goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.

2010 - School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.

One of the pleasures of my life is moderating the paintball club at the school I teach at. My student's get to shoot at me and I get to shoot back and we have a lot of fun in the process because it's done in a safe way in a structured environment with a whole lot of safety equipment.

With that said in the 4 years I had the job sometimes the thought of such an occurrence like this keeps me up at night.

Every time there is a paintball match I got to get my club together and remind them how fast their ass will be kicked out of the school if I even think they are bringing anything that can be considered a weapon into the school. (It's a private school so I can do that.) As it is now I wait until 6:00 P.M. to rent the field to allow my students ample enough time to get their equipment without bringing it to school.

Yeah it's not a fire arm but it can still take an eye out if some kid was to flash it in the hall or something or be taken the wrong way in so many situations.

The 50's were bright and shiny on the surface, but from the back of the bus many people couldn't see it.

Bella that's deep. Unfortunate to say the least but deep. I am going to have to use that line when I cover the Civil Rights Movement in my class.
 
I wish this post could go on forever... Ron comes out of the closet and admits he is a homosexual...1957: Ron is beat up by 6 Greasers and is on life support for 2 months before finally coming out of a coma.... 2010: No one really gives a fuck what Ron is or what he does.
 
Excellent points, Dave and Bella. I think any time you look at a time period as being "the good old days," a closer look reveals that they were only the good old days for those who were on the right side of the divide between the cultural mainstream and those who were oppressed. What's more, even if some of the modern-day reforms (like bilingual education, as SockTickler alludes to) have excesses and misguided elements to them, they can't be any worse than leaving things the way they were in the past.
 
This one is legit. Just replace "1957" with "1995 at asutickler's backwoods Minnesota high school." We had to have had more guns in the parking lot, per capita, than ANY other high school ANYWHERE... And yet one was never used in an act of violence or even a threatening manner. They were just for hunting.

Weird, huh?

You could probably find that at most backwoods MN high school up to 1999 then Columbine happened and then things got strict.




But on a serious note, considering what has happened over the years at schools across the country, would anyone really want to go back to that in today's world? :scared:
 
Excellent points, Dave and Bella. I think any time you look at a time period as being "the good old days," a closer look reveals that they were only the good old days for those who were on the right side of the divide between the cultural mainstream and those who were oppressed. What's more, even if some of the modern-day reforms (like bilingual education, as SockTickler alludes to) have excesses and misguided elements to them, they can't be any worse than leaving things the way they were in the past.

I wonder what the world will be like in 30 years when they call today's society backwards.
 
1957 the President was a actually born in Amerca and had a legitimate birth certificate.
 
You forgot one very important one..

1957: Schools were heavily segregated, and as the little rock 9 incident shows, the thought of african Americans attending an all white school was horrifying to to some people...

2010: Nobody bats an eyelid...
 
This is what really would happen...

Scenario 2: I guess the whole incidents with Charles Whitman, Luke Woodham, or the columnbine killers don't mean anything here? Anyway, what would likely happen is that Jack would be hauled off to jail, and the gun and/or truck confiscated. Then his parents may be charged with failure to fortify, or make it inaccesible to him...

Scenario 2: Johnny starts the fight. mark defends himself, and they both get into it. They are both taken to the office. Even though Johnny clearly started it, they are both expelled. Johnny whines to his parents that Mark started the fight, and they decide to sue Mark & his family for assault..

Scenario 3: Sadly, I must say that this sort of thing, happens/happened all the time when I was in school. Kid would always decide to disrupt the class, and because of all the laws and crap that protect the students, the teachers couldn't do shit, without fear of being sued by the parents and potentially losing their jobs. And the part about ritalin is partially true...

Scenario 4: Let's see if you break a window in this day and age, and nothing happens. At the least, you break a window, the owner has the right to sue you, or the parents for the damage to their vehicle. And depending on how much money your family has, you better hope that the damage isn't that big..

Scenario 5: Well, with the way drugs are in school, you have to take precutions. I remember when I took Ritalin in elementary school ( Yes, I used to), I had to go to the Principal's Office and tell them who I was, so they could give me my medicine. I guess that was a way to protect both myself and the school. Just don't take it out of your pocket unless you get to the bathroom, I guess..

Scenario 6: When you're in a country where the primary language is english, you'll be given every oppurtunity to pass and learn the language..

Scenario 7:

Scenario 8: that one is just silly. Mary is the teacher employed by the school. Is she just supposed to watch johnny scrape his knee, go over to the boy who is crying in pain, and say " Suck it up, Princess!" And walk away?
 
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