If Emily brakes the strings or drop the weights she goes naked

[Dave2112]

Alright. Civlity returns to this thread right now. Enough. Making fun of someone's physical appearance is not tolerated and has absolutely nothing to do with anything here. What's the deal, only studly chiseled guys can tickle girls? Are you serious? It ends here.

As far as using a concept others have used....what did anyone expect? It's like trying to copyright a hogtie. They've been used a billion times, and do you hear the guy who came up with them bitching? Hell, I was using the "drop your arms and you get tied up" thing in play with girls back in the '80's. Should I complain as well. And I was doing it in real life, not on video. So, I'm sure it's a concept that's been employed before a video store was opened, trust me. Any issues regarding business between promoters can be handled by PM's or e-mail, not here. This is NOT the place for it.

All of that being said, I am really enjoying this stuff. I love Emily and this approach of sensual torment. It's refreshing. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for hard torture and use it all the time, but I also like to mix things up and see very little of that these days. Great work!

 

[smoothacer409]

Dude

see what ya'll did...now you pissed off a jedi...jk...your awesome dave...Hey skely....sorry dude i'll have to work on your name someday....i don't see many feet clips on your website. Are u just not into it or what????

 

[skelyrata]

Ok. This is the thing about feet.

My passion, my fascination, is to explore women upper body and find different ways to stimulate it with soft sensual tickling. I am not into feet fetish. Thats why I concentrate on the upper body. Also, as a fan, I have always frustrated that there aren't good upperbody tickling clipstores, or only a few. As I have seen in a recent poll, feet tickling is the most popular of the tickling spots, thats means that I am focusing on a nitch of the market, which makes my store special for working for the small fans.

If we all attack the same market, that market become spoiled because it has all of our attention and has too many options to choose from. Also in delutes the money they can spend. But if we attack different niches of the market we will get more direct contact with the costumer and a bigger support.

But as a buisness man I want everybody's support and back, up so starting next month am going to dedicate a full segment of every session (which is about 10 minutes out of a 60 minutes tape) to foot tickling. This will be a new experience for me and a learning skill, the same way that I learn new trick to tickle the upperbody too.

Any tips, any suggestions, any comments will be welcome and tested. Lucky for us, I have a very sexy "lab rat" to explore all this things.

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One other thing, last night I got a little carried away with some of the feedback and I wrote a paragraph that when I read it this morning was totally out of my style and taste so I went back and deleted it.

My intention on this forum is to comment and discuss product, mine and others, and how to make them better. I have no intention into getting involve in personal wars.

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[isabeau]

heck if you started tickling feet, you might get accused of copycating that in some way lol...i'm impressed by how gentlemanly you are acting to all these attacks and such....keep up the good attitude...if i could buy, i would buy from you certainly...

 

[ShadowTklr]

do you hear the guy who came up with them bitching? Hell, I was using the "drop your arms and you get tied up" thing in play with girls back in the '80's. Should I complain as well. And I was doing it in real life, not on video.

Dave, you beat me to this point, to be sure. I was using this technique as well, long before anyone had the balls to claim "ORIGINALITY" to it's use.

I think other video producers should simply produce better material. Don't whine about "that's not fair; I used that position in my video," or "hey, I thought I invented the tickle strip concept." LOL

Just make your stuff so good, that people will automatically tell the difference in terms of QUALITY, not concept. After all, nobody really gives a shit about a concept, if the quality sucks. Make your videos memorable, and people will come back to you no matter how many other likewise videos exist.

 

[ShadowTklr]

Any tips, any suggestions, any comments will be welcome and tested. Lucky for us, I have a very sexy "lab rat" to explore all this things.

Here is one huge suggestion: Since you don't have any real experience tickling feet, I would suggest that you hire me as a consultant. I'm pretty inexpensive (almost free, in fact) and completely tax deductible. More importantly, I can demonstrate both the physical techniques, and the mentality behind the art of foot tickling that will give you an added edge in the creation and implementation of "erotic" foot tickling clips that will open you up to a considerably larger audience.

Doing what you like in order to find a niche market is a great idea. However, in this particular market, you also have an untapped customer base that may represent many more profit dollars to your bottom line by simply diversifying your offerings in a way that adds uniqueness while maintaining the quality that people have come to expect.

 

[isabeau]

Here is one huge suggestion: Since you don't have any real experience tickling feet, I would suggest that you hire me as a consultant. I'm pretty inexpensive (almost free, in fact) and completely tax deductible. More importantly, I can demonstrate both the physical techniques, and the mentality behind the art of foot tickling that will give you an added edge in the creation and implementation of "erotic" foot tickling clips that will open you up to a considerably larger audience.

Doing what you like in order to find a niche market is a great idea. However, in this particular market, you also have an untapped customer base that may represent many more profit dollars to your bottom line by simply diversifying your offerings in a way that adds uniqueness while maintaining the quality that people have come to expect.

and i volunteer immediately to be Shadow's guinea pig er i mean victim...hehe...and i'll also work for almost free....lol...

the second half of this post makes perfect sense to me..there do seem to be many people, mainly men, who like to see feet tickled more than other parts of the body...

for me i'm not particular, i enjoy watching any body part get tickled, i place myself in the role of the lee or victim....and usually giggle along with said person...and cringe a bit also lol

 

[proudaya]

really???????????

Normally I wouldnt get involved in these squabbles but, this is pathetic. If anyone one should bitch about being ripped off its the guys like Yaqi or T.I.B. who basically started all this. If someone wants to make a tickling clip then so be it. You do not own the rights to having a tickling challenge game. How many times have you seen the superhero thing or stocks, renfaire, its all been done before; stop crying and release quality material. It wont matter who does what if the tickling is real and the models are good looking. There are companies I wouldnt dare go to cause they put out a crappy product. Do what you love and stop worrying about what others do. I personally love what you do at tickle challenge so keep it up.

 

[HansElectrik]

FYI... you can see more of that girl "Emily" at iwantkatie.com

just thought I'd pass that on. 😉

 

[Dave2112]

As far as the feet thing goes, I wouldn't worry about it. Don't go changing what you do just to slip into a market.

I mean, if that's a business decision, that's your call, and in all likelihood will attract some new customers. But if feet aren't your thing, do what you do best. Personally, I'm a full-body guy myself, far too many foot sites and foot clips out there for me. But, that's just me. You could never do a foot clip ever and I'd still hold your work in high regard.

By the way, I've officially decided that I'm hopelessly in love with Emily. Just the way it is.

 

[icetickler]

To you skelyrata I just say keep doing the same I love it all!!

 

[skelyrata]

Emily: "I'm not getting any of the sales from it"

FYI... you can see more of that girl "Emily" at iwantkatie.com

just thought I'd pass that on. 😉

I just received this email from Emily/Katie regarding this:

That site is from two years ago and I don't have anything to do with it, nor am I on good terms with the people who run it. I'm not getting any of the sales from it either. Hopefully it just goes away.
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[Alterbridge]

Well well well, look who strikes again. This Tickling producer is ripping me off left and right. This is a blatant rip off of my STRIP TICKLE CHALLENGE which debuted back in November. This guy has stepped on my threads trying to promote his site as well as he specifically buys clips from me and rips my ideas off for his site. I implore this community to boycott this producer and support myself and all of the other producers who add originality to this community. This guy IS NOT one of them.

As for Skelrata, I am asking that you take this clip off of your site and refer anyone who emails you looking for a girl who loses her clothes based on how long she can last being tickled to TICKLECHALLENGE.COM. ALSO, please don;t buy any more of my clips because, although, I appreciate the business, I do not appreciate you ripping off my ideas.

Thank You!!

TICKLE CHALLENGE CHRIS

Yeah Chris!! Your totally right. You know you are sooo original anyway. U remember when you tied up that girl and tickled her while she was naked? That was soo original. Give it rest. It doesnt matter what idea you have in this business. It is all about the models, and how ticklish they are. PERIOD!!!!
So who gives a shit if he ripped off your idea? Actually I have been playing tickle challenge like games for about 7 years now. That doesn't mean that when you came out with your silly little videos that you ripped me off. Once again it is all about the model. Who was the first person to put a girl in the stocks and tickle her for a video? Who knows, but obviously it wasn't the millions of people who are all doing it now. I know you don't appreciate him ripping off your ideas, but you have to remember you or in the land of media, and marketing. Some of the biggest strategies that similar companies have are eachothers strategies. Take coke and pepsi for instance; did you ever see any similarities? So what i suggest you do is get better models who are more ticklish then just plain bomb ass hot, and beat this guy with what the community really wants.

 

[Cid]

Well well well, look who strikes again. This Tickling producer is ripping me off left and right. This is a blatant rip off of my STRIP TICKLE CHALLENGE which debuted back in November. This guy has stepped on my threads trying to promote his site as well as he specifically buys clips from me and rips my ideas off for his site. I implore this community to boycott this producer and support myself and all of the other producers who add originality to this community. This guy IS NOT one of them.

As for Skelrata, I am asking that you take this clip off of your site and refer anyone who emails you looking for a girl who loses her clothes based on how long she can last being tickled to TICKLECHALLENGE.COM. ALSO, please don;t buy any more of my clips because, although, I appreciate the business, I do not appreciate you ripping off my ideas.

Thank You!!

TICKLE CHALLENGE CHRIS

Your idea! lol. Your like a guy I know here who thinks meeting up with a lady for some tickling is unique. Anyone who says "Don't move while I tickle you" invented the idea. Hell I played that game with my girlfriend long before you came up with this, so I think you owe me some money.

 

[Alterbridge]

Normally I wouldnt get involved in these squabbles but, this is pathetic. If anyone one should bitch about being ripped off its the guys like Yaqi or T.I.B. who basically started all this. If someone wants to make a tickling clip then so be it. You do not own the rights to having a tickling challenge game. How many times have you seen the superhero thing or stocks, renfaire, its all been done before; stop crying and release quality material. It wont matter who does what if the tickling is real and the models are good looking. There are companies I wouldnt dare go to cause they put out a crappy product. Do what you love and stop worrying about what others do. I personally love what you do at tickle challenge so keep it up.

Ahem! it goes further back then Yaqi, and TIB, but for the sake of your argument I agree.

 

[skelyrata]

OK, thanks, and lets cool down

Ok, guys, thanks for your support. I think that a point has been made and I don't want to turn this into an attack to Chris, Tib or any other producer.

I respect both producers, specially Tib, who I consider a legend and one way or the other we are all following the path he and others created and only wish one day to be as succesful as he has been.

Lets concentrate on our videos and work.

Thank you!

 

[Tooth]

FYI... you can see more of that girl "Emily" at iwantkatie.com

just thought I'd pass that on. 😉

You can also find more of Emily/Katie at
www.MPClips.com

and also at www.clips4sale.com/8617


thanks

 

[The Last Laugh]

A problem is that nobody is ever going to believe the pretty models are there with you for anything other than a lot of money so therefore they will see the models as not really having fun and as not really wanting to be there. I think the models are grossed out do you know what I mean sir?

So you're assuming that, usually, people are meant to believe that models are doing this because they want to hang out with the producers? Like the models are supposed to get a sexual kick out of being tickled by them or something? Come on. Also, while you certainly weren't as insulting as that jackass before you, I do think you seriously lacked tact with your own post.

When I do a shoot, there's typically a pleasant, friendly relationship between the models and myself, and most of them find the experience to be fun. I do my best to be a fun person to work with, which does help. But I don't kid myself and think they're participating because of me. Still, while I don't consider myself to be a particularly attractive guy, I don't think the girls are grossed out. It's a work/business relationship, first and foremost. Being attracted to your employer is not a job prerequisite, you know. You think female employees in an office are grossed out at their jobs just because their boss happens to be overweight or unattractive? Looks have nothing to do with it.

That said, I must admit that my personal preference is to avoid appearing in my own videos as much as possible. You can see my hands from time to time, maybe even a rare quick shot of my face, but I actively limit my own appearances on camera. But that's just me. If other producers prefer to do it differently, that's their right, and I'm sure there are many people out there that don't really mind.

By the way, skelyrata, I hate to be a nitpicker, but as a piece of friendly advice, I'd recommend to be careful with spelling in a commercial product. Like the word "brakes", for instance, which really should be "breaks". It's no big deal in a forum post, but for an actual product it's best to be thorough. Somehow it makes it seem more professional, you know. It's a very minor issue, though, so don't worry too much about it.

 

[Cid]

So you're assuming that, usually, people are meant to believe that models are doing this because they want to hang out with the producers? Like the models are supposed to get a sexual kick out of being tickled by them or something? Come on. Also, while you certainly weren't as insulting as that jackass before you, I do think you seriously lacked tact with your own post.

When I do a shoot, there's typically a pleasant, friendly relationship between the models and myself, and most of them find the experience to be fun. I do my best to be a fun person to work with, which does help. But I don't kid myself and think they're participating because of me. Still, while I don't consider myself to be a particularly attractive guy, I don't think the girls are grossed out. It's a work/business relationship, first and foremost. Being attracted to your employer is not a job prerequisite, you know. You think female employees in an office are grossed out at their jobs just because their boss happens to be overweight or unattractive? Looks have nothing to do with it.

That said, I must admit that my personal preference is to avoid appearing in my own videos as much as possible. You can see my hands from time to time, maybe even a rare quick shot of my face, but I actively limit my own appearances on camera. But that's just me. If other producers prefer to do it differently, that's their right, and I'm sure there are many people out there that don't really mind.

By the way, skelyrata, I hate to be a nitpicker, but as a piece of friendly advice, I'd recommend to be careful with spelling in a commercial product. Like the word "brakes", for instance, which really should be "breaks". It's no big deal in a forum post, but for an actual product it's best to be thorough. Somehow it makes it seem more professional, you know. It's a very minor issue, though, so don't worry too much about it.

Maybe saying someones a jackass isn't a good idea either. Makes the producer seem a bit unprofessional to me.

 

[The Last Laugh]

Maybe saying someones a jackass isn't a good idea either. Makes the producer seem a bit unprofessional to me.

Oh please. Have you even read what Todd Tickles wrote? It was beyond insulting. Normally I wouldn't use words like "jackass", but in this case I think it's justified.

 

[hamneggs]

hhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmm .............

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Sorry. Bad Joke. GREAT pic though, huh??

I really don't post much, but I've been this forum around a while. It's always been an interesting place to visit, but what's with ALL the hostility lately? This is a freekin tickling forum. It SEEMS (to me, anyway) like Francois' last post is pretty professional. It tells the truth in an articulate, tactful, and, most importantly, NON-FLAMMABLE way. Unlike some others.

I think Dave 2112 said it best. Important legal issues--copyrights, etc., should be handled and resolved privately, through PM's. I think the humor on the forum is awesome and entertaining as hell, but pointless flames should be ignored and/or edited (as "Sky" had the decency to do, even after y'all stoned him).

LOTS of "original ideas out there in the 'ARTS' these days, huh? Like SAW III, maybe?? ... and I guess Elliott Smith and the Finn boys from New Zealand ripped off the Beatles, too.

Want to FLAME? How about directing it at Congress to get them to get our guys and girls home safely. ASAP. Now, THAT's some heavy shit.

(OOPS, sorry. got carried away)

Peace

H&E

 

[J Unit]

A Solution?

Ya know I think I found a good solution were we all win in this argument here. Aftere watching another Great Wrestlemania this idea just hit me, I propose a contest between the two ticklers, we can call it a "Battle of the Tickl-aires" its set up is simple each tickler pic a model to represent them. Then the models are tickled by the other tickler in a "Tickle Challenge" sort of set up, the losers of this then are tickled by the winners and the filiming rights of this video go to the winner as well. I think this is a fair & just way of settling this little tiff we have here, and its win-win for all of us, cause us veiwers get a great video while the ticklers get bragging rights(so to speak). Come on this is a great idea, you know it is. Anyone agree?

 

[tickleeler]

My Props to You

I personally think your videos are wonderful, Skelyrata. I also happen to appreciate the fact that you appear in your own videos. I know that's not everyone's style, but I think it works for you and it only enhances the clips for me. It gives your scenes the intimate, flirty feel that I often find lacking in others' work.

Thanks also for taking all this criticism like a man and maintaining a sense of humor about some of the downright ridiculous comments that have been made in attack against you. I know it's hard to be unphased by blatant and personal insults, but your positive attitude about it is only an encouragement to those of us who already love what you do; it makes me more inclined to take notice when you post and to be open to varying ideas you put out.

Please keep on doing what you're doing, because there is a market for your exact style and, as you've already seen, there are people like me who follow and enjoy your work. There are also hundreds of site members here who are completely non-verbal in terms of posting feedback but who do follow threads, check out previews and buy clips--so I can only imagine how many more than the few who've spoken in your defense are fans of your vids as well. Keep it up, buddy!

 

[Hapless Ticklee]

Can this forum get any more bloody childish?

I'm going to sue every last one of you pigs and smash you all to little pieces and then I shall take all the pieces and I shall JUMP on them 'cos I've been subjected to tickling challenges that involve the loss of my clothing since the mid 1990's. How dare you steal this brilliant, innovative and wholly original groundbreaking idea and manipulate it for your own satanic ends? I bet you're all part of some evil mind control programme sponsored by some shadowy underground government department or other.

God's mercy on you swine!

 

[qwertyzzzz]

well, u didint patent it, so its free for anybody to use.