I'm feeling like a monster. Some thoughts from you would be helpful.

[toneus79]

I really wanted some honest feedback about the new feelings I was having,
and I realize now that I need some serious help if I enjoy watching someone who doesn't proclaim to be a lee get tickled to death.

I love watching people get severely tickled, and since I'm a lee and new to these feelings, I wasn't sure if that was normal. I've never been an open ler, so I'm really glad that the lers put me in my place and told me that I should be in jail, and that doing that is against the law.

I feel like a real pervert. Perhaps I need to withdraw from tickling. I'm sad but thankful that you corrected me.

Helena

You are nothing of the sort. It is a case however that you do need to distinguish between what is consensual and non consensual. For instance suppose my thing was Spanking instead of Tickling. Would I have the right to do this to you against your will. Similarly if I saw this being done to you by someone else wouldn't I also be complicit in that assault if I just watched and enjoyed your ordeal instead of trying to stop it.

As for DandyJack my reply was intended to credit you with intelligence which you obviously do not not have. So I will merely point out that if you believe that few people are ever prosecuted for non consensual touching, than sooner rather than later you are going to end up in court.

 

[TickledToDeath]

I thought that I was a submissive lee that liked to receive a really harsh tickling.

I have developed a sadistic streak, and really get off on watching other people get tickled insanely, and if I know they hate it, I love to watch it happen. There was a clip on here recently that was called "Another Massacre" with duct tape, bondage, and 2 ticklers attacking baby oiled feet. I loved that.

I recently witnessed someone being tickled, and I watched it happen and loved viewing it. This person is not into tickling, and she screamed alot, and I really got off on her suffering. Am I a freak?

I would like to hear from someone who will tell me the truth. I am not used to these feelings. I feel so hot thinking about that.

Nope. You are not monster or a freak.
Does this extend to you DOING the tickling and making the lee go insane from relentless tickle torture?
Nothing whatsoever wrong with you Helena!
In fact, we can satisfy your sadistic tickle torture desires right here if you care to partake!

 

[TickledToDeath]

Allow me to add something here.........tickling someone against their will up to a certain point may be fine.............however when it is taken too far, that indeed may be wrong but it does not make you a monster or a freak.

TTD

 

[isabeau]

Allow me to add something here.........tickling someone against their will up to a certain point may be fine.............however when it is taken too far, that indeed may be wrong but it does not make you a monster or a freak.

TTD

i concur with what TTD said. you are not a monster. being tickled to death is of course not a good thing. but the stories and clips dont have anyone taken that far. well a few stories do but those are fantasy tales. dont not keep coming here. i feel the same way, and i'm far from a sadistic person.

isabeau

 

[TickledToDeath]

Oh and one more thing Helena.......you can get the same affect/effect lol, from having (seeing or doing it) someone tickled into insanity and tickled to death figuratively speaking of course of someone who wants to be tickled so unmercifully it appears as if it is non con and beyond ones apparant limitations as seeing anyone get tickled to that point.
Tickle torture is at its best in my opinion when it is tetering on that fine line between torture and pleasure!

 

[isabeau]

Tickle torture is at its best in my opinion when it is tetering on that fine line between torture and pleasure!

my kind of ler....

isabeau

 

[Ticklerguy4u]

I really wanted some honest feedback about the new feelings I was having,
and I realize now that I need some serious help if I enjoy watching someone who doesn't proclaim to be a lee get tickled to death.

I love watching people get severely tickled, and since I'm a lee and new to these feelings, I wasn't sure if that was normal. I've never been an open ler, so I'm really glad that the lers put me in my place and told me that I should be in jail, and that doing that is against the law.

I feel like a real pervert. Perhaps I need to withdraw from tickling. I'm sad but thankful that you corrected me.

I don't remember saying you should be put in jail. I remember the post being about what turns you on, but the thread seems to be coming out of what you would like to do. I know that isn't what your asking. There are people here who have gotten turned on by the same thing when reading stories of kidnapping, bondage, non-consensual. So have no idea where all this finger pointing is coming from.

So dont feel bad..I'll admit I enjoy seeing a lee get it good sometimes. Especially on a vid. Most of those vids arent really "non-consensual" anyway. I believe all of us know this on some level even though some won't admit it. Dont leave thinking something is wrong with you for "watching" and enjoying.

The woman feels bad enough as it is..geez!

 

[TikleBelly]

I think it's great if two people get together and want to tickle until the ticklee is forced to say the safeword. However I've usually not made getting the ticklee to use her safeword the goal of the tickling.

For me the safeword is exactly that, a "safe" word, a word to be used when the tickling is no longer desired or there is some other problem (asthma attach, muscle cramp, etc.). The ticklee is free to use the safeword at anytime, even 2 seconds into the tickling if she likes, and the tickling would stop.

I would prefer the ticklee not to use the safeword because that means the fun is over!

I certainly appreciate the kind of tickle play where the ticklee and the tickler has the goal of making her use the safeword. That kind of play is common at tickle gatherings and I have participated in it many times. I can enjoy that kind of tickle play because I know the ticklee enjoys that challenge, to see how long she can withstand the onslaught of tickling fingers. At a gathering if someone keeps tickling even after the safeword is used, then they would get their asses kicked out and not allowed to return!

The bottom line is that there is a very wide range of how people express their tickling desires. As long as it is consensual, go for it!

 

[Hiryu]

I thought that I was a submissive lee that liked to receive a really harsh tickling.

I have developed a sadistic streak, and really get off on watching other people get tickled insanely, and if I know they hate it, I love to watch it happen. There was a clip on here recently that was called "Another Massacre" with duct tape, bondage, and 2 ticklers attacking baby oiled feet. I loved that.

I recently witnessed someone being tickled, and I watched it happen and loved viewing it. This person is not into tickling, and she screamed alot, and I really got off on her suffering. Am I a freak?

I would like to hear from someone who will tell me the truth. I am not used to these feelings. I feel so hot thinking about that.

..........Marry me?

EDIT: Well I for one am a monster and a freak as well and I don't apologize.

 

[Fred46]

Yes, Helena, you are a monster. Will you marry me?

060315 TMF Tickling Discussion I’m feeling like a monster

I thought that I was a submissive lee that liked to receive a really harsh tickling.

I have developed a sadistic streak, and really get off on watching other people get tickled insanely, and if I know they hate it, I love to watch it happen. There was a clip on here recently that was called "Another Massacre" with duct tape, bondage, and 2 ticklers attacking baby oiled feet. I loved that.

I recently witnessed someone being tickled, and I watched it happen and loved viewing it. This person is not into tickling, and she screamed alot, and I really got off on her suffering. Am I a freak?

I would like to hear from someone who will tell me the truth. I am not used to these feelings. I feel so hot thinking about that.

I know someone else already proposed to you on this thread, but I just wanted to let you know I was kidding about saying you are a monster.

The things you described would be powerful turn ons for me. Reading posts from Kis123 and others reminds me of how important it is to exercise care in tickling and to be aware of the risks. It might be a wild rush to watch someone getting tickled, but the aftermath could certainly spoil it completely. I enjoy the safety of watching video clips where the responsibility and risks are someone else's.

A fun tickling among friends, even if it is non-consensual, might end well if it is within reason and the respect, friendship and trust among the people involved is strong. The birthday tickling seems to be an example of that. In the final analysis, there is consensual non-consent, and nonconsensual non-consent. If there is real non-consent, as Kis123 indicated, it can end up very badly.

I remember a roommate of mind from college told me of a time he came down to talk to his friend who was working in the study room of the dorm. They talked for a couple of minutes, then my roommate pinned his friend in against the desk where he was sitting and tickled him from behind. All he had to do was lean against his chair preventing him from getting up. His friend laughed and screamed and struggled to escape, and the others in the room, males and females, all laughed in open enjoyment. He tickled him for about 30 seconds, then stopped and gave him a break. After his friend got all settled down, he tickled him for another 30 seconds. The others present all laughed, again.

That tickling was non-consensual, but it was between friends, and it didn’t extend beyond a reasonable time. Everyone present enjoyed it, and they remained friends. So, even though it was non-consensual, it was consensual non-consent.

I think the potential for truly monstrous behavior is common to the human condition. History is full of examples of terribly cruel behavior. Maybe the popularity of slapstick comedy stems from widely shared sadistic impulses.

I know that tickling can be very abusive when misused. Still, seeing someone tickled, within reason, without their expecting it or giving their consent, can be a powerful turn-on for a lot of people. I don’t think that makes anyone a monster, but there is cause for caution in how we act on our impulses, as Drew70 and others have said in this thread.

Fred46