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Japan has no culture

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eh....Pride in anything more than yourself and God is an absolute waste. I don't believe in any cultures, counrties or any government. Mostly because every few hundred years most if not all civilization are blanked swept and started over again at some point. i doubt one country we know today will be around for another 300 years at least. I'd stick to helping fellow men than fellow country.
 
Darth Vegeta said:
Explain that. I assume you are referring to hightech gadgetry, robotics etc?

As their industrialization and modernization was based on Western know-how and examples. That's why unlike so many 'old powers' they advanced so 'early' to the level of a Western Power.

So i'm assuming you are merely referring to less distant things?
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Their modernization was based on Western examples because it was the only modernization there was at the time.

It's not exactly a question of being superior in all forms of technology per se. And, not addressed at you but another poster, Japan's constitution, written by the United States in large part, puts significant constraints on their military. Therefore it is a very small part of their GDP and saying their military is "technologically inferior" is a meaningless statement.

But back to my point. It's not always the technology but how you use it. For example, did you know that the United States has one of the worst ratings when it comes to bringing high-speed Internet connections to all areas of the country? That American attempts at public wireless networks in their cities are often confounded because there is no standardization and our airwaves are cluttered because private companies can use different wavelengths if they so choose? Having led the way in the formation of the Internet, America lags behind in bringing those benefits to its citizens because of the absolute terror many people have of the government attempting to do anything broad. Obama's revitalization plan is striking for its scope if nothing else, something that the American people are unused to.

And it doesn't always have to be high-tech. For example, in my home town plus pretty much every Japanese city I have been to (I've been to some small ones like Saijo and Niihama, some larger ones like Matsuyama and Okayama, and the truly metropolitan in Tokyo) on the sidewalks there are an odd pattern of rubberized yellow tiles with shifting patterns of bumps and ridges that I could never quite figure out, as well as an odd, sometimes irritating, but very distinctive chirping when the walk signal comes up at a traffic crossing. It wasn't until recently that I realized the purpose of all this was to allow blind people to walk without the aid of a seeing-eye dog or cane.

While something like that isn't breathtaking in innovative technology, the sheer scope of the project is something else entirely, and something that I cannot recall ever seeing anywhere in America.
 
the_jimmy_james said:
That's what I don't get. I'll see kids wearing T-shirts written in Japanese or whatnot. Just doing things that prove to the world how much they wish they were yellow. They're posers, pretenders, wishing desperately for something they know nothing about.
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Isn't that essentially the same thing as a wigger? Only it's for Japanese people/culture instead of black?
 
Jaynin said:
Their modernization was based on Western examples because it was the only modernization there was at the time.

It's not exactly a question of being superior in all forms of technology per se. And, not addressed at you but another poster, Japan's constitution, written by the United States in large part, puts significant constraints on their military. Therefore it is a very small part of their GDP and saying their military is "technologically inferior" is a meaningless statement.

But back to my point. It's not always the technology but how you use it. For example, did you know that the United States has one of the worst ratings when it comes to bringing high-speed Internet connections to all areas of the country? That American attempts at public wireless networks in their cities are often confounded because there is no standardization and our airwaves are cluttered because private companies can use different wavelengths if they so choose? Having led the way in the formation of the Internet, America lags behind in bringing those benefits to its citizens because of the absolute terror many people have of the government attempting to do anything broad. Obama's revitalization plan is striking for its scope if nothing else, something that the American people are unused to.

And it doesn't always have to be high-tech. For example, in my home town plus pretty much every Japanese city I have been to (I've been to some small ones like Saijo and Niihama, some larger ones like Matsuyama and Okayama, and the truly metropolitan in Tokyo) on the sidewalks there are an odd pattern of rubberized yellow tiles with shifting patterns of bumps and ridges that I could never quite figure out, as well as an odd, sometimes irritating, but very distinctive chirping when the walk signal comes up at a traffic crossing. It wasn't until recently that I realized the purpose of all this was to allow blind people to walk without the aid of a seeing-eye dog or cane.

While something like that isn't breathtaking in innovative technology, the sheer scope of the project is something else entirely, and something that I cannot recall ever seeing anywhere in America.
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Dude... that whole cross-walk thing is super cool. o.o So simple that it's brilliant! lol
 
Those innovations have been around for about ten years. I remember seeing them in Spain in 2000, Little Rock in the early 00s, and they were EVERYWHERE in Dallas in 2007.

Funny thing, that. The reason that they're so prevalent is that they became part of ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) new construction guidelines in 2003, and became a new construction requirement in 2007. That is, all road and street construction done using federal money after January 1, 2007 is required to incorporate all of those safety features.

It rocks to know shit.
 
Those wayfinding paths first saw use (possibly invented) in Japan in the late 1960s.
 
Rick Tibbler said:
I really didn't want to enter this silly discussion, but I think the original poster would have done everyone a great service if they'd clarified their thoughts on the matter in their very first post, rather than having to backtrack through the rest of the thread, explaining what indeed they were trying to get at.
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Backtracking? Seemed more like back-pedalling to me. lol

I lived in Japan for a year and a half in the late 70s. They have a very rich multi-faceted culture. As somebody else already pointed out, you can't judge their culture strictly on their marketing and entertainment. There is way more to them than that. Their culture and traditions are very deeply rooted, and are not likely to go away any time soon.
 
the_jimmy_james said:
Those innovations have been around for about ten years. I remember seeing them in Spain in 2000, Little Rock in the early 00s, and they were EVERYWHERE in Dallas in 2007.

Funny thing, that. The reason that they're so prevalent is that they became part of ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) new construction guidelines in 2003, and became a new construction requirement in 2007. That is, all road and street construction done using federal money after January 1, 2007 is required to incorporate all of those safety features.

It rocks to know shit.
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Combative tone aside, my point was not so much that Japan invented this kind of thing (whether they did or they did not is not in my knowledge) but that I, as an American citizen, have never seen it in any American city or town, whereas I have seen it in the vast majority of Japanese cities and towns.

My point was ultimately the practical use of technology, even existing technology, not about who can race further ahead and develop more new things.

I feel obliged to mention that there is a wide gulf between the "obsession over all things Japanese" and the "serious study and/or genuine admiration for the culture" here, and I believe it's unfair that some people on the other side of the debate seek to marginalize those of us who hold a genuine appreciation for the country by lumping us in with the fanboys and/or fangirls who plague any popular trend. While I can't quite put my finger on it, there's a vague tone of condescension in your post that bothers me.
 
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QueenBeeBeeMari said:
Not just technology.They are highly athletic,they could win any sports competition and they are awesome with art.They made anime.Without Japan there would be no anime
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America is better with all those things you just named that matter. And droll entertainment does not.

Ticklecat2 said:
It sure the hell is, paleface.

-- Writing from her reservation

Squaw Ticklecat
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I didn't know the english language was such a problem for some people.
 
Jaynin said:
Combative tone aside
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The word you're looking for is irreverent, my Engllish-teaching friend. Combative would be if I directly attacked you, for example through an ad hominem argument, which holds no true weight in a debate.

Instead, I was informative and told everybody about the wonders of the 2008 ADA Construction requirements.

Then tooted my own horn because I love knowing lots of rather useless information.

That is all.
 
meangry said:
America is better with all those things you just named that matter. And droll entertainment does not.



No,they aren't.Not one American has yet to beat Ninja Warrior and without the Japanese America would lose a lot of the things we have.I think the entertainment matters I wouldn't want to lose Inuyasha,Witch Hunter Robin, manga,cosplay and lots of other things they give us.Oh and I love their Kimonos,they have a cool sense of fashion.
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I don't think Japan sucks. I do think some people in it however (like all other countries in this planet) are shitheads.

I'd have to say that my only quarrel with some people in Japan's government is the following:

#1: The annual slaughter of dolphins

#2: The continued discrimination and forced assimilation of the anu people (aka the original Japanese).

#3: Unit 731 (responsible for some 500,000 deaths via live human dissection, vivisection, and bio-experimentation.
 
First off to the person that started this, what have you been smoking?

You have made accusations that have no ground, "Japan has no culture."

Have you really looked at their history, their heritage, and their way of life? Truly looked at it in depth.

The art they have created (no not just anime and manga)

The Martial Arts

Their spiritual beliefs

The delicious food they create

Their poetry and legends

Artifacts, statues and buildings that have survived for hundreds if not thousand and something years.

The scenery of the very nation itself could be counted as well.


So please enlighten us as to how you came to this conclution?

Oh and the whole "Japanese culture is completely exportable" thing. OK I'll bite, but you forgot one very important thing. THAT'S THE WORLD WE LIVE IN TODAY!!!!!!!!!!

Evey country, every nation makes money from importing and exporting merchandise, more so the ones that are basically islands. And if you can make a buck off of something simple that is common in your country and another doesn't and wants to have it and or experience it, then why not. Whats wrong with it being a major source of income, nothing. One of their reasons for that is because the products they ship are known for their craftsmanship and quality.

Why don't you do some research and get back to us when you actually know what you taking about MR. "I AM intelligent."


Oh and before I forget, Haruhi Suzumiya gave me something to post this to tell what she thinks of you and your beliefs on Japan. (Everyone else feel free to look as well.)
 
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QueenBeeBeeMari said:
meangry said:
America is better with all those things you just named that matter. And droll entertainment does not.



No,they aren't.Not one American has yet to beat Ninja Warrior and without the Japanese America would lose a lot of the things we have.I think the entertainment matters I wouldn't want to lose Inuyasha,Witch Hunter Robin, manga,cosplay and lots of other things they give us.Oh and I love their Kimonos,they have a cool sense of fashion.
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As I stated, droll entertainment does not matter in reality. They can take Ninja Warrior all they want. I'll take superior firearms, because unlike what those animes tell you, a ninja can't take out all the bullets from an automatic weapon.
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meangry said:
QueenBeeBeeMari said:
As I stated, droll entertainment does not matter in reality. They can take Ninja Warrior all they want. I'll take superior firearms, because unlike what those animes tell you, a ninja can't take out all the bullets from an automatic weapon.
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Oh,I guarantee if we ever went to war with Japan they would win.If that ever happens I am getting the heck out of here!
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The main force is F-15 Eagles. The old fighters have been on the way out for some time now. They're planning on moving beyond the F-15s this year. They are considering several new fighters the Eurofighter, F-22, F-35, F/A-18E/F and F-15FX.
 
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