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Just So We Have This Straight........

red indian

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....ENGLAND are the world champions of rugby football union. The U.S. got knocked out some weeks ago. We beat (amongst others) South Africa, France, and in the final Australia. I realise this is a difficult concept for you Americans to understand, so let me help you....in order for England to earn the title of "World Champions" we actually had to compete against other countries, kind of scary dont you think? how do we do it? and no body armour to be found anywhere.
 
Now we're really confused..rugby, football..I thought football was soccer and rugby was like a comination of basketball and American football....you Brits gotta get your sports straght, mate..you're confusing to the rest of the civilised world at large...


(ROFLMAO!!!)


Ven
 
Do your worst venners..........

...I can take it all night......and when i wake up....guess what?....we will still be WORLD CHAMPIONS.
 
Hey Red..My wife ..the lovely Venraya wishes to know if there arent horses involved in some way in this sport...

I assured her it was only horses arses and not the whole beast.

Ven
 
Hey Ven, I don't believe horses are involved, but I do think a lacrosse stick comes into play at some point.


Drew
 
Well...........

....yes you are almost right. There were 14 Donkies out on the pitch who rejoice in the name of "Australia."
 
World champs fits, from what I understand, there aren't a lot of countries that play baseball professionaly. Besides, there are plenty foreign players on U.S. teams.

I don't see any problem with people wearing pads in football. Doesn't make less harsh a sport, smarter players probably. Do rugby players drive in cars without wearing seatbelts to prove how "tough" they are?
 
we call our professional teams "World Champions" because name another country that can beat that team. can any other country beat (last season's champions) Tampa Bay Buccaneers (football), San Antonio Spurs (basketball), New Jersey Devils (hockey) or Florida Marlins (baseball)? NO. so, our teams are WORLD CHAMPIONS.

as for wearing pads, the athletes in the NFL are bigger, stronger, and faster than any damn rugby player. our collisions are a LOT more violent. let a rugby player play American football and see how long he lasts.
 
Not very convincing prime me old china!!.........

......how do you know no one else can beat the teams you mention unless you go out and play them? I am sure they are very good teams and deserve their sucess, but no one else in the world as far as I know rejoices in the title "World Champions" unless they have at least been to the trouble of taking part in a tournament that involves the participation of a reasonable representation of the rest of the world. It seems to be a rather odd U.S. custom to call their teams "world champions" without any plausible excuse.

Your points on the relative merits of RFU and NFL beg one or two obvious questions. Firstly, why do you think the "collisions are a LOT more violent"?.....er.....now let me see....(dont rush me on this, I know it I know it!).....GOT IT!!!!.....they wear armour! (my powers of deduction never cease to amaze me!!)

Secondly, I am sure the likes of Martin Johnson, Lawerence Dallaglio, Neil Back and all the rest of the England team would find life very much easier if they could go out on the pitch looking like robocops. The less welcome question for your boys is how long do you think THEY would last in a game of RFU without all their talent boosting equipment??


A code swapping tournament was discussed by the RFU and the NFL a few years back.....no prizes for guessing who turned it down.
 
Did it ever occur to anyone that in the balance of such things, both types of players would be equal to one another? For example, you would expect your Rugby player to be tougher, having to take harsh impacts with little protection, but an NFL player would have more stamina, since he must take those knocks and then run, fast and hard, wearing a full suit of body armour. A rugby player would no doubt play well in NFL, but would tire much, much more easely in such padding, and an NFL player would probably last longer than any other rugby player on the pitch, but take tackles less adeptly.

Not that this actualy means anything...its like trying to argue who would win between star wars ans star trek, really...

AT
 
Re: Not very convincing prime me old china!!.........

red indian said:
The less welcome question for your boys is how long do you think THEY would last in a game of RFU without all their talent boosting equipment??

You mean the padding and helmets? How are they "talent boosting equipment"?
 
again red, name ONE country that can beat the Tampa Bay Bucanneers in American Football. i think it is pretty safe to assume that no country outside the United States can field a team that can beat them. same goes for the San Antonio Spurs in basketball. now in baseball, they may have a chance. same with hockey. but the NBA and NFL champions can call themselves WORLD champions.

as for wearing pads, red, use your brain. if rugby players used pads, their collisions would be even more violent. plus, pads do NOT increase talent.

you silly English people.....😀
 
Padding increases the risk-taking, thusly resulting in more
"astounding" results. I think that's a gerneally accepted idea. If they didnt' have the padding, it's doubtful you'd see the same level of play.

I think a more comparable situation is to use sports more than one country plays at a high level. You may not see a rival to TB, but that's not because other countries are inadequate. It's because they just don't place importance on that game. A realistic comparison of world champ value is a sport like soccer. Or, perhaps, try looking at the Olympics. All American gold winners??? I thought not.

What non-Americans don't "dig" about football is that somewhere buried in the concept of the game, is that little sub-rule, "To enjoy this sport, one must automatically assume that their favortie team is better than anything a damn foreigner can throw at them."

Like me, for example. I hate the game,but I love my Saints. 😀

Joby
 
Here we go again, explaining the rules 8 times to the Thicky Twins...

venray1 said:
Now we're really confused..rugby, football..I thought football was soccer and rugby was like a comination of basketball and American football....you Brits gotta get your sports straght, mate..you're confusing to the rest of the civilised world at large...


(ROFLMAO!!!)


Ven

Ray old chum, how are the piles? 😀


To be exactly accurate there are two different games of football. One is Association Football (so called because it's run by the FA) and the other is Rugby Football. (So called because it was invented by a bored soccer player at Rugby School.)

Most often Association Football is just called "football" by us Brits, whereas it's alternative is called "Rugby". Occasionally we may slip into official speak and call it by it's full name.

Neither one requires more armour than you'd find on an M-1 tank to play. 😀
 
For Red: My 2 Loonies...

Ahem...step out onto the ice with me, will you sir?

Ya so, England is beating out countries that they used to own. We're just afraid you'll impose bangers'n beans as a worldwide cuisine again.

What the dilly? Tally-ho!!

...and so forth. 😛

Cheers.😀

P.M.S. Pleeze tell Lizzie that her tests came negative, except one.
 
Red Indian, my friend, did it ever occur to you that nobody here in the U.S. could give a flying crap about rugby?? The only people who play rugby is too much of a pussy to come play football😀
 
Well in that case.........

...if you dont "give a flying crap about rugby" why did you send a team to the world cup finals? you got beat by the way, you got beat REAL BAD!!
 
well indeed that may be the case........

.......and it was a pleasure to entertain you my old china!
 
well, to settle this once and for all, why don't you gather the best rugby players, teach them American football, try to get a pro team there, and we'll see who's the best then?? If we try rugby, then surely you can play football....unless you're scared😀
 
Blimey NT!!!!..........

....get your specs on squire!!! and read my posts carefully....I quote..."A code swapping tournament was discussed by the RFU and the NFL a few years back.....no prizes for guessing who turned it down." .....doh!!!....(do try and keep up old chap!!)
 
To save old Red from having to scream from his nether regions in each of his celebratory threads (and also to help him preserve his voice for serenading purposes), I have taken it upon myself to have this custom designed trophy created. With this, I believe everyone will get the point once and for all. 😀 😀 😀

champtrophy.jpg



Mimi 😛
 
Yes, but

The Chinese domination in small paddle sports continues...where the hell is Engerland NOW? Someone must break this stranglehold! First ping pong, now badminton...crap, soon we'll be fending them off with a bit of help from Canada in racquetball as well!



China produces two new
world badminton champs
Posted: 6:04 AM (Manila Time) | Aug. 05, 2003
Agence France-Presse

Briefer affair

The women's final was a briefer affair.

It was clear from the moment that second-seeded Zhang dispatched Camilla Martin, the former world champion from Denmark for the loss of only six points in the quarterfinals that she was in outstanding form, and had made herself the unofficial favorite for the title.

However, there were signs of early match nerves as Zhang quickly went 4-0 down in the biggest final of her life, before finding her touch and rhythm.

She signaled that she had settled down with a wonderfully disguised net shot return which left Gong stranded and soon was advancing from 3-5 to 7-5 confidently.

Zhang then made another run of four points from 7-6 to take the game, finishing with a backhand block lifted to such a perfect length that it landed on the baseline.

The early stages of the second game saw the most competitive phase of the match, with the serve constantly changing hands and Gong fighting hard to hang on to her title.

But she did not have the creativity of the older player, and after Zhang won a long rally, full of accurate clearing and disguised drops, completing it with a deft net exchange, to reach 3-3 she got on top.

Gong only served twice more in the match, as Zhang caressed the shuttle to all four corners with increasing fluency, with the champion forced to over-stretch to try to stay in it.

Gong lost the title when she put an ambitious smash into the net.

Earlier Zhang Jun and Gao Ling also lost a world title, the mixed doubles, when they were well beaten for the second time in four months by the former champions Kim Dong-Moon and Ra Kyung-Min.

Indeed the Chinese pair might have lost more heavily to the brilliant Koreans than by 15-7, 15-8, for they were consistently outplayed and only picked up three or four consolation points at the end of each game when they were already down and out.

Kim, widely regarded as the best doubles player in the world when fully fit, has now won eight Grand Prix doubles titles in the last 16 months, and the victory was consolation for Kim's defeats in two world finals last time, two years ago in Seville.

China won three titles and Asia four. The only European success saw Sigit Budiarto and Candra Wijaya foiled in their attempt to win the world men's doubles title back, as they were beaten 15-7, 13-15, 15-13 by Lars Paaske and Jonas Rasmussen of Denmark.


It was a massacre...
:sowrong:
`Q
 
I refuse...............

....to allow Q,s attempts to mock our great victory to over shadow Mimi,s wonderfull gesture in reproducing a gleaming replica of the Web Ellis Cup. I am over whelmed at such a generous gesture!! I can not find the words to express my gratitude to the wonderfull Mimi. I am also greatly indebted to Mimi for her delightfull threat to spank me if I ever try to spam this site again!

So come Mr super cool Q...tell me what offers you had this week to match THAT!!!???
 
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