Knismolagniac symbol???

[MasterPaladin]

OK just to throw out a few thoughts squirming , pulling at restraints or trying to break free of a hold a body comes to mind power over another safewords ropes beds . the key in the keyhole could stand for man and woman the number 2 you need at least 2 to tango lol wide open eyes just before a tickle attack. No matter what you do though it's gonna look like a background and that Idea was shot down

 

[Tiger.Lily]

OK just to throw out a few thoughts squirming , pulling at restraints or trying to break free of a hold a body comes to mind power over another safewords ropes beds . the key in the keyhole could stand for man and woman the number 2 you need at least 2 to tango lol wide open eyes just before a tickle attack. No matter what you do though it's gonna look like a background and that Idea was shot down

All of those things, while good thought processes, are specific to certain people. Not everyone uses restraints, safewords, ropes, or beds.

I like the concept of power, but again, that's not specific enough towards tickling.

*sigh* Mrrrg. I wish I knew how to better articulate this...or how to draw up a symbol for laughter. 😛

 

[-Hari-]

That leaves laughter. What kind of icon could convey laughter or happiness? A smile would be my first thought. Not necessarily a blatant smile...but maybe a curvature subtly placed to represent it.

Well as Myriads pointed out:

From a graphical standpoint the best two designs so far are the Neuron Design, it's simple, and symbolic. English speakers can find a 'T' in it, and the curves suggest smiles in a way. It's the sort of abstract symbol that is very good for a group such as ours.

And I see what he means, check out the top of it:

A gleeful smile if ever I saw one 😀

Then again, it depends how technical you want to get, you COULD argue that tickling isnt always about the laughter and more about the torture and maybe some people prefere theyre lees to be screaming in agony rather than joyfully laughing....but I would like to think we can all agree that thats going abit tooooo far, however on the Neutron tree at least, the curvy smiles easily become sharp objects symbolising pain and agory....if that floats ya boat. So win win?

 

[MasterPaladin]

all the way from japan lol laughter endurance and ours for sensation

 

[Sir Bombers]

I understand the point that you tirelessly make, but I totally disagree with you. I can wear that symbol and if someone spots what it is than I really aint that fussed, in the extreamly rare occasion that some random person happens to actually know what that symbol means then they will do one of a few things,

*walk past and not give a monkeys

*make some stupid comment, which wont bother me because im proud of it.

*or ask me about it, and I will either be comfortable with telling them, or I wont be, itl be my choice and I dont HAVE to talk to them.

The vast majority of people wanting this symbol, dont want it to be obvious so thast they can have that choice.

Excellent! Finally you can see what I'm saying... 🙂



Yes I understand that you don't have to talk about it or it's meaning...I'm just trying to say that you can bet it will be revealed anyway... not just to a few people in your local community...but to possibly everyone nationwide the more tickling rises in the mainstream...just like BDSM it's meanings and symbols are nationwide to a lot of people...

what's to stop our symbol next?

Take the BDSM symbol, its widely used and the BDSM community if huge compared to ours, yet I have it tattooed on my arm and all ive ever had is "hey nice tat" or "is that some kinda yin yan thing?" to which I tend to reply "hmm sorta" and thats it, but in some cases I will rarelit say n"nah, its ites the bondage symbol" it really does depend on who it is and where it is.

You say its not wise, I say it is, we can disagree with eachother till we`re blue in the face 😛 but it wont make a difference, the symbol wont be obvious except to those who know what it is, thats how most people want it and its for the reasons ive stated.

I guess we'll have to agree on disagreeing... although I hope you don't mean I said the symbol itself would not wise... I meant the fact of wearing it in public, if you want to keep it a secret... would not be wise. You've proven my statement that questions will arise... and yes it can be a rarity, but don't disregard the fact that the situation can't elevate from one person asking and knowing to fifty some other day asking and knowing. Don't think that the symbol might not find it's way on wikipedia some day.... just like the BDSM symbols... 🙂

Besides, theres clearly alot of intelect floating about in our community, it would almost be an easy way out to go with something obvious and generic like a feather on a foot. Somethign with a deeper and more cryptic meaning would suit far better.

As a side not, do you feel as tho the bondage symbol should perhaps be changed to a person tied up? so that its not to subliminal?

I see... something with a deep meaning would be good artistically speaking...

As for your side note... Well...It wouldn't matter to me if it was a person tied up, or if it stayed in it's triskelion form, subliminal or not...

To me in my opinion, it falls to the choice of an individual's desire to represent the symbol without being afraid to explain it, draw attention to it or be associated with what it represents. Otherwise I...myself... wouldn't put it on.

I hate to open back old wounds...🙂 but that's why I keep saying that you've kinda already made your choice in showing your fetish, once you put the symbol on. A symbol is (or should be...) your visual testament of what you represent for all to see.

I care not for the symbol's look, I care for who, and for what, the symbol portrays...

 

[-Hari-]

Excellent! Finally you can see what I'm saying... 🙂

I knew what you were saying, I just disagree that its a concern likely to effect anyone. We clearly disagree here but as someone whos willing to take the chance based on how unlikly it is to result in someone noticing, I really am happy to dismiss this concern, cant speak for everyone tho, maybe others are more worried about it than I? who knows 🙂

Yes I understand that you don't have to talk about it or it's meaning...I'm just trying to say that you can bet it will be revealed anyway... not just to a few people in your local community...but to possibly everyone nationwide the more tickling rises in the mainstream...just like BDSM it's meanings and symbols are nationwide to a lot of people...

what's to stop our symbol next?

Nothing at all, the BDSM symbol is worldwide and the majority of the people still dont know what it means if they see it.

So I dont see it as a siginificant risk..but more a potential but very unlikely possibility of a risk that probably wont bother anyone anyway,

I think its far worth the tiny risk that someone will notice and expose you, for the sake of wearing your symbol knowing your 99% safe from judgment and maybe even bumping into someone who knows what it is because they share your desire, which would be lovely im sure 🙂

I will no doubt get it tattood when its decided, I have no fear of exposure really, I just dont feel like its likely to happen.

I guess we'll have to agree on disagreeing... although I hope you don't mean I said the symbol itself would not wise... I meant the fact of wearing it in public, if you want to keep it a secret... would not be wise. You've proven my statement that questions will arise... and yes it can be a rarity, but don't disregard the fact that the situation can't elevate from one person asking and knowing to fifty some other day asking and knowing. Don't think that the symbol might not find it's way on wikipedia some day.... just like the BDSM symbols... 🙂

oh its not disregarded, I just disagree that anyone is anywhere near as likely to notice nor care what it means as you seem to think they will, sure it could happen, but they could also accidently stumble upon this website and see us all posting too, another risk we take each day, but not one that worries me in the slightest.

The chances are if someone not into tickling happens to give a monkeys enuf to look into whether it has a symbol or a website, that he/she may never actually bump into one wearing something that gives them away, and on top of that , are they likely to be malicious about it or ask questions or just walk on by? its a long and unlikely string of events that im quite happy to sweep under the rug, a bridge that I dont think il ever have to cross but will if need be.

 

[MasterPaladin]

I guess the laughter and endurance symbols are not to good either

 

[Capnmad]

I might not be explaining myself very well 🙂 I don't really know how else to describe it.

Hari? Morgan? A little help?

Didn't mean to ignore ya, babe -- I was just trying to get my head around it, myself... Seems Hari and I were thinking the same thing -- that you didn't want to see the handle of the key, somehow, but just the hollow for the key and the key "teeth"... I was still trying to figure the best way to work that out... Glad Hari came up with a suitable solution... 🙂

I really hope that you will. Most of what you've shared I've liked just as much as the neuron -- specifically the tri-feather, and the feather/stomach circle.

Thanks, sweetie. 🙂

I think if there was a way to make it into just TWO feathers of opposites it would be more appropriate to the fetish. Does that make sense?

Just reading that sparked a good idea... I'll see what I can work up... ...mind if I put it in a circle? 😉

LOL...

My friend that is my real last name! There's only a few other first names in this world that begins with "F"!

Most people have already found it out... 😉

Well, if it's too mundane, I'll have to require middle name, DOB and SSN as well... 😀

Since we're on the issue of being analogous... then my name being up here... out in the open... can be the perfect testament to me being open about the fetish... as with the symbol when it is brought into the real world... like BDSM when it caught the public's eye... 🙂

Not to say everyone is the same way... I understand that not everyone shares the same view of being open...

True enough. We all have varying degrees of acceptable privacy for this sort of thing.

Exactly my friend...

I'm not saying the fetish would be tarnish or uplifted in any way...

I'm just saying, if the case comes to hiding a secret that could bring "unwanted social repercussions" when exposed, then why would you have a symbol that would LEAD to the secret you are trying to hide? That's all I'm saying...

Why have a secret if you're gonna draw attention to it with a symbol?

Why did Superman only ever disguise himself as Clark Kent with a suit and pair of glasses? Sometimes, it just works...

The idea behind a coded symbol is simply to let in on its meaning who you want -- it's control of knowledge. Now, I could have a tattooist write down my arm, "Tickling makes me horny!" ...but I may not want everyone to know that.

But if I could have a symbol, I could let my selection of who I let in on that secret be the determining factor of what social repercussions there are (some of which may be VERY positive, as well). The symbol, therefore, is pragmatic, offering risk and benefit through discretion, whereas the declaration is pride, thrusting upon you possible risks and benefits without the control of discretion. We're choosing pragmatism over pride in this case.

That's understandable... and the idea does not elude me, but I doubt that most people here have the discipline of a spy... which brings me to the point that the secret of the mysterious symbol that we're going to have, has a very strong chance of being found out by the non fetish society, and then like I said in the past comments...the cat will be out of the bag... and then what? Not to say that the love is based on the symbol or measured by it...

I'm just saying that once a symbol of the secretive get's out to the public's knowledge, then the public WILL attribute the people wearing the symbol to the secret... and you can bet by then, that it will be foolish to wear the symbol if you don't want people to know about the secret once it's been called out... 😉

Dunno what circles you travel in, my friend, but before this, did you know that that triskele was the symbol for BDSM? And if so, through what avenue did you find it? The dispersal of information tends to correlate positively with its importance to individuals. Those who find such information inapplicable to themselves are markedly less likely to spread it. Those who find it applicable to themselves or are at least curious about it might disperse it. I think on that basis, the secret will never be fully secret, but obscure, mysterious, possibly heavily rumored, and fairly rarely known with any certainty to total outsiders. And with that, I'm more than comfortable.

I have been reading the comments on this subject,and with all do respect,I think some are kind of overdoing it a bit.I mean just vote on some symbols and if one is chosen then great.Once a symbol is established people can make a decision of wether or not to sport it ya know.I for one,like this idea so maybe I can spot others into tickling and allow them to spot me as well without feeling so uncomfortable.That would be cool.Tis just me ; )

I think we're overdoing it, too. But I think that's inevitable when trying to create a symbol to represent a large group for the foreseeable future. And really, despite the possibility of a public vote, the success of any symbol is dependent on the widespread adoption and accurate usage of it. We may very well come to a vote here, and gradually over time another symbol may gain in popularity and supercede the one voted for. Voting's one thing, use is another. In any event, I'm glad someone's trying to put together something as a starting point for wider adoption among fetishists of our stripe.

 

[TklDuo-Ann]

I think that the biggest problem we have in coming up with a symbol for the tickling community is in the fact that we are all so different. Some are more comfortable with it as a part of their lives than others. Some are into it as purely fun, others purely sexual, others a mix. Some enjoy specific targets while others are equal opportunity ticklers. Some like to be purely playful, while others enjoy pushing the envelope and getting sadistic with it. Yada yada yada.

Is it any wonder why we're having difficulty coming up with one symbol to represent all of that? I think the challenge is to further simplify it, not to further complicate it. Something very basic that represents tickling should suffice. As has be pointed out, folks can and will add thier own flair to it if and when they choose to use it.

Why don't we just come up with something very basic? Then, we can have some of the more artistic folks among us add a bit of variety. The same original symbol will be in them all, with extra goodies added for those who'd like something a bit more flashy or more representative of their own specific tastes.

Just a thought.

 

[Deleted member 66627]

I don't think there's a way to come up with a symbol that everyone will agree with. Tickling is such a complex interest that many of us view and enjoy differently. There would possibly have to be at least 2 different representations right off the bat, not including any other asides other folks might carry.

Meaning; one symbol for those who ONLY can enjoy tickling in a sexual nature. And one for those who strictly enjoy it on a playful base. Then you're going to span into the one's who are mixed, the one's who can only enjoy it if it's being done on feet. The folks who like tickling but only watching, not partaking. The unique Lee's who happen to not be ticklish and so on.

The BDSM symbol is a great representation of any fetish, IMO. Because it's Black and white and extremely basic. There's no fancy add-on's or images. It's like a blank canvas design, waiting for you to fill it individually. I'm not saying that I'm not enjoying seeing what everyone has come up with. However, if you go back and view some of the contribution's that have been made, you'll notice that almost every single one of them is different.

If anything, I think it would be interesting for someone to make a thread encouraging people to create their OWN Knismolagniac symbol, and explaining why they made what they made. It would be interesting to see what people choose to come up with and why they choose what they choose.

 

[MasterPaladin]

I don't think there's a way to come up with a symbol that everyone will agree with. Tickling is such a complex interest that many of us view and enjoy differently. There would possibly have to be at least 2 different representations right off the bat, not including any other asides other folks might carry.

Meaning; one symbol for those who ONLY can enjoy tickling in a sexual nature. And one for those who strictly enjoy it on a playful base. Then you're going to span into the one's who are mixed, the one's who can only enjoy it if it's being done on feet. The folks who like tickling but only watching, not partaking. The unique Lee's who happen to not be ticklish and so on.

The BDSM symbol is a great representation of any fetish, IMO. Because it's Black and white and extremely basic. There's no fancy add-on's or images. It's like a blank canvas design, waiting for you to fill it individually. I'm not saying that I'm not enjoying seeing what everyone has come up with. However, if you go back and view some of the contribution's that have been made, you'll notice that almost every single one of them is different.

If anything, I think it would be interesting for someone to make a thread encouraging people to create their OWN Knismolagniac symbol, and explaining why they made what they made. It would be interesting to see what people choose to come up with and why they choose what they choose.

That's what this thread is all about we were trying to get all to make one or whoever is artistic enough. I think your reading into tickling to much. What you said here can be said for all fetishes. Coming up with a symbol for tickling in general was the Idea here not to depict every aspect of it. Once again I will say ALL are invited to post a symbol for this fetish.

 

[Deleted member 66627]

That's what this thread is all about we were trying to get all to make one or whoever is artistic enough.

Ah. In reading the Original Post of this thread, as I did; it doesn't state that.

I think your reading into tickling to much.

Not necessarily. I know of what I read here. And clearly it is complex. Look at all the individuals here as well as how they personally view tickling.

Coming up with a symbol for tickling in general was the Idea here not to depict every aspect of it.

And again, tickling is viewed differently. You'd have a massive complex design if everyone jumped in with their own views. Keeping it to a B&W form ala the BDSM symbol would probably be the best.

My personal contribution was to see everyone's individual symbols, and what it means to them. Which was posted as an aside to the OP, as indicated by my suggestion of it being a *NEW* thread.

Once again I will say ALL are invited to post a symbol for this fetish.

... Are you ringleading this.. ?

 

[MasterPaladin]

Cavum posted it I thought it was a good idea and started pushing for it. I did say I would do a lot of the footwork like posting a poll to vote on symbols. I don't want to jump in and take over as it became a joint venture but if people wish I will try to coordinate it. I did put a post in TT to try to spark their interest but it didn't get any responses, I think Hari did it again and I saw 1 response.

 

[MasterPaladin]

Just to recap a bit this is what seems to be the favorites so far.
I do agree to have another thread to attempt to eliminate all the reading that is really not necessary

 

[MasterPaladin]

Just to recap a bit this is what seems to be the favorites so far.
I do agree to have another thread to attempt to eliminate all the reading that is really not necessary

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[MasterPaladin]

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[Skulls]

Check out the new Signature. I like that symbol you guys came up with.

 

[-Hari-]

I don't think there's a way to come up with a symbol that everyone will agree with. Tickling is such a complex interest that many of us view and enjoy differently. There would possibly have to be at least 2 different representations right off the bat, not including any other asides other folks might carry.

Meaning; one symbol for those who ONLY can enjoy tickling in a sexual nature. And one for those who strictly enjoy it on a playful base. Then you're going to span into the one's who are mixed, the one's who can only enjoy it if it's being done on feet. The folks who like tickling but only watching, not partaking. The unique Lee's who happen to not be ticklish and so on.

The BDSM symbol is a great representation of any fetish, IMO. Because it's Black and white and extremely basic. There's no fancy add-on's or images. It's like a blank canvas design, waiting for you to fill it individually. I'm not saying that I'm not enjoying seeing what everyone has come up with. However, if you go back and view some of the contribution's that have been made, you'll notice that almost every single one of them is different.

If anything, I think it would be interesting for someone to make a thread encouraging people to create their OWN Knismolagniac symbol, and explaining why they made what they made. It would be interesting to see what people choose to come up with and why they choose what they choose.

tis exactly why ive been trying to push it to be based around the things that are essential for every tickle person, sensitivity or else it doesnt exist, ler/ler cause you cant do it alone, the growth of the community-is an arguable factor, perhaps some people dont care about the growth? who knows?

And as Gin reminded us, laughter,because thats what it causes most people, altho I feel compelled to point out that some people arnt after laughing because REALLY sensual ticklign doesnt have to have laughter so its not valid to EVERYONE.

but the first two and probably the third without a doubt are very important to all...arnt they? So a symbol based on those points would work?

 

[-Hari-]

Just to point out, both The UKTF and TickleTheater are aware of this and will/will not take part, as with here, various members wont like the idea and wont take part and others will, I hope the latter holds as high a number as possible 🙂

 

[Deleted member 66627]

What's up with the red? What's that color signify? It's in two image examples.

 

[-Hari-]

What's up with the red? What's that color signify? It's in two image examples.

I was thinking about colors earlier, its somethimg I would try and avoid in an initial design, A symbol should be a shape in my opinion, capable of being any colour depending on various preferences.

 

[MasterPaladin]

What's up with the red? What's that color signify? It's in two image examples.

these are what members submit we really didn't put any restrictions as to how the symbol is supposed to appear

 

[Mephistopheles]

Well as Myriads pointed out:



And I see what he means, check out the top of it:

A gleeful smile if ever I saw one 😀

something like this?

 

[-Hari-]

something like this?

yeh man, happy happy happy 😀

 

[Mephistopheles]

yeh man, happy happy happy 😀