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Knismolagniac symbol???

We need to go back a few pages, and analyze Mammers pic again. Take away the hand, and it looks like a perfect symbol to use...my 2 cents


excellent thread btw....
 
Once again I will say ALL are invited to post a symbol for this fetish.

... Are you ringleading this.. ?

Yeah -- I don't think anyone's trying to ringlead... It was a good thread begun by Cavum, championed by Hari, and we're all trying to encourage folks to join in on a good idea.



What's up with the red? What's that color signify? It's in two image examples.

I think both of those were mine. In the first, with Libertine's triskele, it was his personal request that the feathers be red; you'd have to ask him if it's a visual thing, or if he has a particular significance in mind.

In the one I thought reminded me of a Hoplite shield, I chose red because I thought it worked visually, but red is also considered the color of passion for much of the western world. Admittedly, color meaning varies culturally.
 
Paladin said:
we really didn't put any restrictions as to how the symbol is supposed to appear

Yes. I'm sure there won't be any form of restrictions at all. 🙂

Yeah -- I don't think anyone's trying to ringlead... It was a good thread begun by Cavum, championed by Hari, and we're all trying to encourage folks to join in on a good idea.

K. Just trying to figure out the whole aspect going on.


In the one I thought reminded me of a Hoplite shield, I chose red because I thought it worked visually, but red is also considered the color of passion for much of the western world. Admittedly, color meaning varies culturally.

What about something similar to a coat of arms? Or is a circular design something that seems to be more appealing to the majority. What exactly is the idea here? To develop a design that signifies tickling but using color/shape and other aspects as a expression, signifying more then what it's shown at face value?

Or maybe, two large circles with the thickness of a ring. Entwined together (similar to the Olympic symbol, but with less rings). Something wrapped in the middle to bind them close together.. a feather shape sounds too cliché to me. Maybe a ribbon of some kind?

Basically the raw idea knocking around in my head is the joining of a Lee and a Ler with the ribbon or "tie" signifying that they are bound by tickling, but the rings could be shaded differently to describe their position as Lee or Ler.

An amusing thread thus far. I really enjoy the images that have been created. 🙂
 
Holy hell. I leave for a couple of days...

I agree that we shouldn't start overdoing the pictures. The neuron tree growing out of my bizarre cup design is a little much.

I think the neuron tree is the leader still, but like I said before, if there were some way to alter it so it were more tickling specific as opposed to sensation specific, it would be perfect. I recognize that we can impose whatever meaning we want... but that's too easy. I'd personally like the symbol to have inherent meaning, if we can manage it.

Something small, like the neuron tree with the laughing eyes, would be good. That particular design made me laugh. Very anime.

Once my spring break is over and I get back to my own computer, I'll start contributing again.
 
My current thoughts on the situation so far.

We have a strong image thought up by subtle_feather and tweeked by me. The Neuron Tree, For me at least it covers the what I would suggest A symbol for our fetish should cover.

I feel the image itself is complete as im sure many of you agree, fiddling with it probably wont improve it.

There are other good images, that perhaps "do it" for other people more and some that have alot of potential for valid tweeks to make them strong contenders.

I personaly would really like to see some fresh ideas based around the same aspects as the Neuron tree, in that it represents only things that are applicable to all people into tickling. ya dont have to, but that what I would like to see an what Ive been working on myself (currently with no result)

A base train of thought that one COULD start at is trying to come up with something else other than Neurons that represent sensastion, ideas that have crossed my mind and passed straight out the other side have been electricity, friction, the breaking the barrier from person space to intimate space and other random thoughts.

I think we could benfit greatly from discussing really deeply, what else can represent sensation? and hopefully with that, we can leak tickling into it effectivly.

As a side note, during conversations elsewhere, its become more and more obvious that a vast portion of the community may not/do not want a symbol, be it becasue they dont see the point, or because they see no gain so it becomes invalid, whatever the reason, it makes the people that DO want one, a smaller group.

At first it made me think twice about whether this could work, and then I noticed a "failsafe" if you will.

Even if only a tiny portion of us make this happen and we declare that to us, what we have chosen represents tickling, it matters not if other people choose to accept it as relevant or not, they can go on happily without one, they have done up to now.

I imagine over time, it will either be forgotten or snatched up from time to time and used by more and more as time goes on and hopefully the use of it will grow to a far larger scale and become more accepted and more welcome. Ide wager alot of symbols are put to this test of time.

When people start to oh so common thread "what tattoo can I get to symbolize tickling?" people may say, well theres this pretty funky looking symbol some of the community drempt up once, and perhaps they will see and agree with its meaning and take it on board.

So our job is to come up with something attractive and meaningfull that people of any tickling preference is likely to enjoy visually as well as in meaning, that will give it the best chances or survival within the community thru the years.
 
ksymbol.jpg


Here's what i put together in the early hours of my morning classes. I'm aware that the are mis aligned to be a perfect triangle but i didn't have any tools with me.

I borrowed the idea of the endorphin release, symbolized by the circular shapes, and the neuron which are the primary sharp shaped protruding from the endless cycle of feathers.
 
Alright.
I'm gonna try to explain this the best way I know how.

symbol.jpg


[I think the hand should be either optional or not .. and I used picnik to create this so I dunno if that is illegal ... ]

The "burst" in the middle represents "bursts of laughter".
The faded background represents the endorphins you get from after tickling.
The spiral, more loose lines coming out of the "burst" represents feathers or fingers or anything that gives you shivers of excitement when you think about tickling.

And the reaching hand is optional .. dunno if it would look better with or without it 😕

Yeah well there is my idea ... ah dunno. I'll think of something better eventually.


I agree that this need more attention, Im not a fan of the image as such, I feel its too cplicated, too detailed, but I really like the concept behind it, purhaps theres a similar but simpler way to put it across?
 
ksymbol.jpg


Here's what i put together in the early hours of my morning classes. I'm aware that the are mis aligned to be a perfect triangle but i didn't have any tools with me.

I borrowed the idea of the endorphin release, symbolized by the circular shapes, and the neuron which are the primary sharp shaped protruding from the endless cycle of feathers.

I think its good man, its a step in the right direction from mammers` idea, personaly im still against the feathers involvment in it. 😛
 
H'okay - here we go.

ah..hehe ok 😉

skipadeedoodah what does it mean???

Here's my original explanation of the idea and the meaning behind it....

Maybe a "lock and key" type of thing? Like a circle with two halves, that only fit eachother, but instead of the curvey line of the yin yang, maybe an indent in one half of the circle in the shape of a key, and an extension off the other half in the same shape.

The two halves could symbolize the various opposites/two-sidedness of our fetish, while also expressing the fact that, like Libertine said about BDSM, tickling can't be done alone. You can't have lees without lers and vice versa. It also could symbolize the potential eroticism of tickling if you look at the key as a phallic symbol.

The lock & key could also symbolize the bondage aspect the fetish, but doesn't have to for those who don't prefer it.

I also think that, for the folks who like the idea of the TK symbol somewhat mimicking the BDSM symbol, this idea, or some variation thereof, could satisfy them as well.

I actually really like this idea the more I think of it, because I feel like it has alot of possible explanations/interpretations without symbolizing something that not everyone in the TK community feels a connection with (like the feather, or a more obvious variation the BDSM symbol). The symbolism can be really powerful without locking 🙂facepalm: no pun intended, honest) someone into a symbol to which they don't feel connected.

It also allows for alot of room to personalize it. If someone *is* into tickling with feathers, they can, perhaps, make the teeth of the key look like feathers. The colors and feel of the key and keyhole can be altered to fit just about anything. It can be made to look goth or girly...the colors can be changed...it has a ton of possibility.

...and here's Hari's depiction of it...which, the more I look at it, I think it needs to be tweaked. It's exactly what I had in mind, but I don't really like my own idea anymore LOL I still like the concepts behind it, but I no longer have a picture in my head.

I dunno, maybe ive got it all wrong, but heres my attempt

skibbadeekey.png


I did it without the other side so it was two segments but il be honest, it no longer looks like a key if you do that.

Gin - similar to your word association, I tried to do some rambling about what tickling meant for me personally. Of course this isn't going to apply to everyone, but it might spark an idea in someone somewhere.

Okay - I'm gonna do some totally random rambling about what tickling is to me personally. Maybe it'll spark an idea in somebody. Of course, tickling is different things for different people, so anybody who wants to follow suit and explain what their fetish is about for them, feel free 🙂

For me, tickling is about two things - playfulness and power exchange. It's a somewhat intimate form of affection, in that you likely wouldn't engage in it with a perfect stranger. It also represents alot of vulnerability, especially when bondage is part of it, but even when it's not. I feel extremely vulnerable when I'm being tickled, not only because of the physical vulnerability, but because I'm letting someone into my personal space, and I have little to no control over my reactions. For that reason, trust is a big part of being a lee. I have to assume that the ler is going to stop when I want/need him to, and that they're not going to use the control they have over me to do anything inappropriate or create a negative experience for me.

Part of what I love about tickling is the power exchange. I'm a very assertive person in every day life, so having that snatched away from me via tickling is what makes it so appealing. It's a chance to escape the person I have to be every day, and let somebody else take the reins.

Someone mentioned before that it's a fetish of opposites - and that's so true. Lee/Ler. The Love/Hate feeling we get when we're tickled. The fact that even though the ler is physically "in charge" of the session, and the lee is traditionally at the mercy (or lack thereof 😛) of the ler, the lee has the final say in what goes on, and has the ultimate power to stop the session with a safeword.

That's all I have for now - hopefully it'll spark an idea in someone 😛

Any lers care to share? It'd be interesting to get a take on the flip side of the coin.



something like this?

So cute!!
 
ksymbol.jpg


Here's what i put together in the early hours of my morning classes. I'm aware that the are mis aligned to be a perfect triangle but i didn't have any tools with me.

I borrowed the idea of the endorphin release, symbolized by the circular shapes, and the neuron which are the primary sharp shaped protruding from the endless cycle of feathers.

I think this is pleasant to look at, but I don't really understand the symbolism in it. However, from someone who's been opposed to use of feathers all along, I think this isn't a terrible use of them. I didn't even really notice they were feathers til Hari pointed it out.

If we can't get away from using feathers, using them in a way that they don't look exactly like feathers, like this, might be a good compromise.
 
I think this is pleasant to look at, but I don't really understand the symbolism in it. However, from someone who's been opposed to use of feathers all along, I think this isn't a terrible use of them. I didn't even really notice they were feathers til Hari pointed it out.

If we can't get away from using feathers, using them in a way that they don't look exactly like feathers, like this, might be a good compromise.

I tend to disagree, I would say it would be best to have something without things like feathers, if feathers are important to someone, they would maybe add feathers to it in some way after, common, ya know im gonna keep going on about this feather thing, I couldnt be more against it 😛

I plan to add chains to whatever we decide on, and tattoo it as I like my tickling with abit a bondage on the side 😀
 
I tend to disagree, I would say it would be best to have something without things like feathers, if feathers are important to someone, they would maybe add feathers to it in some way after, common, ya know im gonna keep going on about this feather thing, I couldnt be more against it 😛

I plan to add chains to whatever we decide on, and tattoo it as I like my tickling with abit a bondage on the side 😀

I prefer that we don't use feathers, as well. But it seems as though alot of people prefer/don't mind the use of feathers in the symbol. So in the event that we may be fighting a losing battle 😛 this might be a good compromise. 🙂
 
What about removing the very bottom shape. Does it signify anything? I think it might look better with just the triangle and then the feather/not feather thing on top, and the circles.
 
Thanks to everyone for the past discussion... I've learned a lot... 😉

I do agree that this is quite complicated... maybe we could simplify it...

From the posts I see that we are making a symbol for "Knismolagniac" tastes...

This gives me another inquiry to ask... I don't know if it has be addressed already but...

This symbol is supposedly for everyone who's into tickling right? That's what is being mentioned a lot on this thread...

But from the very title of this thread, we are making a "Knismolagniac symbol..."

If I do recall, the definition of Knismolagniac is a person or people who get sexual gratification from tickling or getting tickled...

So from there, doesn't that cancel out the discussion of the symbol being for everyone if it's only for people who fit that description?

as I've recently learned from the people hear 😉... there are different types of ticklers...some who love tickling or being tickled, but have absolutely no sexual gratification from it.... Those are people with Acarophilia... (love of tickling without sexual intent.)

So... from that logic shouldn't there be an "Acarophilia" symbol as well?
Unless we assume everyone here who's into tickling gets sexual gratification...

With me personally I love it on both fronts... 🙂

I don't know...maybe I'm confusing this issue more... 😀


But I will say... that the symbol should show the most abundant part of the fetish...

You know... we should probably ask among ourselves...what does tickling as a whole, (either sexual or not) ... MOSTLY or GENERALLY produce when we partake in it on either one or both the sexual and non sexual fronts?


Or to make it simpler...what aspect between sexual and nonsexual ticklers is the MOST similar?

How can we compare the two types of tickling and see what comes out to be the most common between them? What common aspect between the two can we draw upon to incorporate into the symbol so that truly every tickler can share it?

If we could figure that out...then the symbol designing process could go by easier in my opinion... 🙂
 
Thanks to everyone for the past discussion... I've learned a lot... 😉

I do agree that this is quite complicated... maybe we could simplify it...

From the posts I see that we are making a symbol for "Knismolagniac" tastes...

This gives me another inquiry to ask... I don't know if it has be addressed already but...

This symbol is supposedly for everyone who's into tickling right? That's what is being mentioned a lot on this thread...

But from the very title of this thread, we are making a "Knismolagniac symbol..."

If I do recall, the definition of Knismolagniac is a person or people who get sexual gratification from tickling or getting tickled...

So from there, doesn't that cancel out the discussion of the symbol being for everyone if it's only for people who fit that description?

as I've recently learned from the people hear 😉... there are different types of ticklers...some who love tickling or being tickled, but have absolutely no sexual gratification from it.... Those are people with Acarophilia... (love of tickling without sexual intent.)

So... from that logic shouldn't there be an "Acarophilia" symbol as well?
Unless we assume everyone here who's into tickling gets sexual gratification...

With me personally I love it on both fronts... 🙂

I don't know...maybe I'm confusing this issue more... 😀


But I will say... that the symbol should show the most abundant part of the fetish...

You know... we should probably ask among ourselves...what does tickling as a whole, (either sexual or not) ... MOSTLY or GENERALLY produce when we partake in it on either one or both the sexual and non sexual fronts?


Or to make it simpler...what aspect between sexual and nonsexual ticklers is the MOST similar?

How can we compare the two types of tickling and see what comes out to be the most common between them? What common aspect between the two can we draw upon to incorporate into the symbol so that truly every tickler can share it?

If we could figure that out...then the symbol designing process could go by easier in my opinion... 🙂

Personaly I think you over analyze this very much. Think of BDSM. There is THOUSANDS of ways to do it. And there is also many BDSMers that don't turn on sexualy on playing with pain. Do they have a own symbol? No....

And when it comes to what common aspect between the two logos?
I would say....THE NAURON TREE! 😛
 
fmilling... your not confusing it. I tried to find the meaning of Knismolagnic and can not but assuming that what was given is correct we do not have to call it that. This will be a symbol for tickling only and can be used as such in other symbols ie someone into bondage can use that symbol with ours in the middle showing that their into bondage tickling.

Hari.... I think this thread is getting a tad demanding I feel that some of the ideas are getting put down by one or 2 peoples opinions. I agree I don't like feathers but if the majority wants them well need I say more?

I pushed for this symbol from the beginning of this thread even though I was told it always failed then hari and others pushed even harder and it looks like it is gonna take off. I would say lets not be to critical with the submissions. I keep saving them to a folder so we can use them for a vote in the end.

and chrystal you may have hit the nail on the head with whats missing with the neuron tree I like that circle Idea.
 
Personaly I think you over analyze this very much. Think of BDSM. There is THOUSANDS of ways to do it. And there is also many BDSMers that don't turn on sexualy on playing with pain. Do they have a own symbol? No....

And when it comes to what common aspect between the two logos?
I would say....THE NAURON TREE! 😛

LOL...sorry about that...I'm near the point of graduating with a degree in psychology come May... I over analyze everything!

I understand what your saying though...only the title of this thread confused me in to believing that the symbol would be geared only toward the knismolagniac and not the acarophiliacs...

Like the BDSM folk, I think the reason for them not having individual symbols is that they probably found a symbol to represent everybody regardless of it's members getting turned on or not...


But looking at us and our own fetish at this point... we seem to be having trouble doing just that...discovering something that covers a large portion of what we ALL do... THAT is the main factor of my comment, my friend...


This "neuron tree" does indeed have a common element of representing sensation, though... and that is something indeed felt by both fronts...

this is exactly what I love to see for a symbol for this fetish...it's general and covers everything! What is tickling or any fetish with out the sensation? 😀


fmilling... your not confusing it. I tried to find the meaning of Knismolagnic and can not but assuming that what was given is correct we do not have to call it that. This will be a symbol for tickling only and can be used as such in other symbols ie someone into bondage can use that symbol with ours in the middle showing that their into bondage tickling.

I see... and that's what I would like to see as well along with others too... a symbol that represents everyone as a whole... nothing that shows too much of the sexual gratification part but again, nothing that shows not enough of that gratification side as well...it should be equal both ways... just something that is general...something that covers tickling fetishism as a whole...

For togetherness sake and stuff... 🙂
 
I think it's safe to say most like the neuron tree I used chrystals Idea in 2 attempts what do you think. It's plain and simple the circles represent the lee and ler coming together
 
I think it's safe to say most like the neuron tree I used chrystals Idea in 2 attempts what do you think. It's plain and simple the circles represent the lee and ler coming together

A very interesting concept! 🙂

It has a strong meaning, in all of it's simplicity... 😉
 
The first on also symbolizes that there is a top and bottom as one is over the tree and the other under it
 
I still think the Neuron tree is complete and needs nothing added to it, its already has 6 circles on it, coming together in a circle around it, showing a group perhaps, and those circles are very smily circles,

I dont hold any sort of power to dismiss feathers, but as visually stunning as some of the images with feathers in are, by using them in a symbol...blah blah blah<--ive said it loads of times 😛

As I said, I think it should remain applicable to everyone, I dont think we should look for a comprimise, I think we should look for a balance. something happens inbetween feathers/fingers and tickling, a touchwith the desire to cause a reaction, I think that is the what it should symbolize.

Im no bossman tho, Im not laying down the rules, just putting my thoughts down 🙂
 
It was an Idea brought by crystal I just put it in I sorta like it here is mammers with a combo of crystal and skipadeedoodahs ideas
 
It was an Idea brought by crystal I just put it in I sorta like it here is mammers with a combo of crystal and skipadeedoodahs ideas
another good step forward, I still wonder if its too complicated, its a work of art for sure but it it symbol material?
 
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