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[2tickleU]

Mz Chaos ,your previous Post is Awesome !!!

The first opinion that I had of you was very special , because I liked
how you described the things that TURN YOU ON .
And I PM'd you about it , but you seemed pretty "Cold" with your reply.
We exchanged a couple of follow-up PM's and I thought that I would never
break the Ice.
However , your last post is Warm and Caring , not through it's content ,
but by it's presentation.
I still think that your love of tickling is WAY COOL and I don't want you
to shy away from talking about it , because that is the kind of thing that
most of us in here are happy to hear .
When I joined the TMF for the 2nd time recently , I jumped in here
giving out my phone # , because that approach HAS NEVER HURT ME !!!. . .
but a few of the Cyber-Hermits in this room were offended by it .
Telling me how I should live my life by hiding behind a pm and not letting
people into my world until I have PM'd with them for at least 300 years ,
or so . Guess what folks . . . The first time I joined TMF , I met a really
cute 'Lee and we enjoyed a couple of sessions together . The second time
I joined , I met a really special 'Lee after about one week and I am flying
2000 miles to her location for tickle-sessions next month , and once a month
from then on .
>>>>> MY POINT IS THIS , MZ CHAOS ,
Tell everyone about your desires , WARM-UP to the ones who respond
favorably , and just ignore the ones who insist on trying to make you live
the way that they want you to , because you are the only one who will be
hurt if you let a few Clowns keep you from meeting the ideal mate .
Michael Jay

 

[LindyHopper]

I'm sorry now that I ever mentioned as much as I did or that I was so open on the threads here. Maybe from now on I'll stick to very short unrevealing answers... hopefully in time the earlier threads I have posted will fade into the background and maybe I'll become boring enough so as not to attract the attention I have brought upon myself by being open and honest.

I hope that you don't decide to go this way! If we can't express our desires honestly here, then where can we? 🙁

I'll say that for myself, I have been VERY explicit posting about my tickling activities and what turns me on, and I don't get inundated with inappropriate PMs from guys. Of course there are exceptions, but I think the content of one's posts, in and of itself, isn't what tends to draw cretins like a magnet.

I knew before I signed up here that I wanted to avoid that kind of attention, so I took measures to help prevent it. I chose an androgynous screenname. I've never posted my picture. I don't chat. I don't have a sexy signature. My profile does not indicate my age, or where I'm ticklish. (BTW - I'm not saying that you can/should do these things, I'm offering the advice mainly for any women lurking on this site who have been frightened by what they've seen on this thread. You can avoid most unwanted attention and still post what you like.).

That said, there will always be people who don't treat you the way you want to be treated. Pay them no mind, and you don't have to change a thing. At least in my experience, the cool people I've "met" and the positive interactions I've had on this forum far outweigh the negative ones, and I hope the same is true for you.

One more thing: 2tickleU - I believe several women on this thread are complaining specifically about YOUR offensive PM behavior (you may want to peruse page 11 of this thread). Hey, you can do whatever you want - it's a free country. I'm just pointing it out to you explicitly because... well... you seem not to have figured it out on your own. It sounds like your having plenty of fun with some 'lees that you haven't pissed off, but if you're at all curious about why some (many?) of us ladies haven't reacted so well to you, the answers are here on this thread.

And to all of you guys (like Battlecat) who've expressed concern about your own behavior on this forum: don't worry - we didn't mean you. We were talking about that other guy. 😀

 

[toneus79]

I can't stand submissive men and will not tickle a man no matter how much they beg.

As usual normal condescending female double standards apply here. Imagine if that was a guy saying how much he can't stand submissive women and wouldn't tickle them how much they beg.

Well just two points, I certainly wouldn't go as far as begging anyone to tickle me (kind of kill the whole thing really). Also there is NO BIGGER TURN OFF in the world for me, than a women (whether in a sexual or tickling sense) thinking she is doing a guy some almighty favour (yuk). Whatever happened to nice people, playing nicely with each other.

The other thing here is I think many of the females on this thread protest a little too much. For gods sake act like grown ups. If you want to avoid all the weirdos, stay out of the chatroom (I know I have never once ventured in there). If on the other hand you must go in there, then take the rough with the smooth. Similarly if someone if PM'ing you who you don't like, just block all messages from them and move on.

Finally (and I know this is an anathema to all of you who lead such busy lives) if you want to meet someone from this forum. Do it in a public place, for a quick drink or pizza, no more, and then go home. Arrange any playtime for a seperate occasion. All this BS about wanting people to know me for who I am and all my other interests. My experience seems to suggest that very few ladies want to do that at all, instead it always seems to be a case of everything else (hobbies, interests ) is taboo and that it has to be all about tickling or nothing

 

[kis123]

As usual normal condescending female double standards apply here. Imagine if that was a guy saying how much he can't stand submissive women and wouldn't tickle them how much they beg.

Well just two points, I certainly wouldn't go as far as begging anyone to tickle me (kind of kill the whole thing really). Also there is NO BIGGER TURN OFF in the world for me, than a women (whether in a sexual or tickling sense) thinking she is doing a guy some almighty favour (yuk). Whatever happened to nice people, playing nicely with each other.

The other thing here is I think many of the females on this thread protest a little too much. For gods sake act like grown ups. If you want to avoid all the weirdos, stay out of the chatroom (I know I have never once ventured in there). If on the other hand you must go in there, then take the rough with the smooth. Similarly if someone if PM'ing you who you don't like, just block all messages from them and move on.

Finally (and I know this is an anathema to all of you who lead such busy lives) if you want to meet someone from this forum. Do it in a public place, for a quick drink or pizza, no more, and then go home. Arrange any playtime for a seperate occasion. All this BS about wanting people to know me for who I am and all my other interests. My experience seems to suggest that very few ladies want to do that at all, instead it always seems to be a case of everything else (hobbies, interests ) is taboo and that it has to be all about tickling or nothing

I believe we are acting like grown ups by discussing the issues and getting them out in the open. The initiator of this thread asked a question, and we're simply supplying the answers.

I get lots of men who are interesting and behave like gentlemen. I get men who comment on certain posts I've made. I get men of all ages who just want to chat and have taken the time to know me a little. And yes, we do talk about tickling-after all this is the common thread of every member of this forum.

I do NOT present myself as some tickle sex pot who needs attention. I've never been in the chatroom in the three years I've been a member of this forum. I know enough about chatrooms to avoid them completely.

Yet I still get plenty of PMs from men who just want a tickle date. I tell them I'm mostly ler, yet they still pursue. Then they get angry when I don't want to be bothered.

The difference between myself and the women you're describing is that I really don't care that much if I'm popular or not. I don't much care if I'm liked or accepted or not (although I appreciate those who like and accept me). I mostly care about being able to express my opinions in a safe place among the ticklephiles in this forum.

 

[toneus79]

The difference between myself and the women you're describing is that I really don't care that much if I'm popular or not. I don't much care if I'm liked or accepted or not (although I appreciate those who like and accept me). I mostly care about being able to express my opinions in a safe place among the ticklephiles in this forum.

Yes but this is as safe a place as you want to make it. There is always the option for anyone to just browse the forum without joining. Once you join (and this applies to any of us) you are opening yourself up by measure of degrees of how you operate it, to other people. Interactions with other people by there nature are often messy and don't always go the way we want. That can for example be another male (for instance) member of this forum objecting to something I say and then dragging me in to a flame war, or someone coming on as heavy handed cretin to female members of the forum.

Yet as I said in my post, if men PM you ignoring the fact that you are a Ler, then just block their PM's, and move on. Debate with intelligent people and ignore morons.

 

[2tickleU]

A Note for Lindy Hopper

Hey Lindy Hopper ,
Why don't you put about 5000 more posts on here telling me how I
should live my life . That way , I can ignore it about 5000 more times.
If you knew what I have achieved in my life doing anything that I choose ,
you would see just how pointless your argument is . So , until you come to
my home and see how content I am , doing things "MY WAY" , I will just
continue to ignore your pathetic criticism .

 

[natural tickler]

I hope I didn't offend anyone with my previous post, it didn't come out like I hoped. So lemme clarify for a sec

Yes, this is a forum, and a nice community to be in, it is unfortunate that some ruin it for everyone else by talking tickling 24/7. And because of those certain individuals, people shy away from here, or, don't communicate as much because of it. I am happy to say this is a small minority of folks, and a lot of folks here are good peeps. I hope the majority of the fellas here aren't lumped into that category because of it

I have no problem striking up conversation, and I can definitely talk a good one without even mentioning tickling, as are quite a few guys here. So please don't become incognito because of a few degenerates. There are good guys here

I now hope this clears things up, if not, oh well, such is life 😀

on a side note, I don't believe most of the females here are looking for popularity, it just comes up on them

 

[Tamia78]

Why can't I just shut my big mouth???

Why can't some of the guys on this thread just understand that I DON'T wanna be tickled by strangers? Not that I have to know your whole life story or anything, but I just am not comfortable having someone I don't know touch me...ANYWHERE!! Yeah, we can have a pizza, and meet in a public place, but if we don't have much to say to each other beyond tickling, how the hell am I gonna relax enough to laugh my head off later? Because of that, I get called "immature", "hermit" and "bitch"? There are plenty of lers out there that I have talked to and plan to meet this summer sometime. Not to mention going to the tickle party in Oct, so I'm not getting where the "bitch" part makes any sense. It's all in your approach. I think someone said it before....some approaches work for specific people, and some don't.



*note* the above post reflects ONLY the views of the poster, and even she gets a little snippy at times (hard to believe, I know, lol).....we now return to our regularly scheduled thread................

 

[natural tickler]

Why can't some of the guys on this thread just understand that I DON'T wanna be tickled by strangers? Not that I have to know your whole life story or anything, but I just am not comfortable having someone I don't know touch me...ANYWHERE!! Yeah, we can have a pizza, and meet in a public place, but if we don't have much to say to each other beyond tickling, how the hell am I gonna relax enough to laugh my head off later? Because of that, I get called "immature", "hermit" and "bitch"? There are plenty of lers out there that I have talked to and plan to meet this summer sometime. Not to mention going to the tickle party in Oct, so I'm not getting where the "bitch" part makes any sense. It's all in your approach. I think someone said it before....some approaches work for specific people, and some don't.

Tamia darling, you've made your point. I've felt you on that. Read my post above yours and you will see

 

[tmb515]

tickling forum.....TALK TICKLING

my general opinion...this is a tickling forum...I come here to talk and associate with people that are into tickling and to get views upon the issue..If I want to have a conversation about something other than tickling...I go to my friends or people that I converse with on a 24/7 basis..this is my opinion...ill prolly take heat on this forum for expressing it...

 

[2tickleU]

TMB , You are exactly right in that last post !!!

TMB is right !!!
If you go to a Tickling site and you are offended when most of the
people have tickling on their mind , it is not our fault that you are
totally "Wacked"

 

[drew70]

A big part of this argument in my opinion stems from the basic differences between men and women in general. Men tend to be more physically oriented, direct, and want to get straight down to business. Women tend to be more relationally oriented, These aren't meant as blanket statements, as there are exceptions to this among both genders.

The guys that are all business are put off when the women want to take things more slowly, and the women are put off by the guys who want to move too quickly. Then you've got the grandstand guys who make a big show of chiding the eager guys for being to forward with the ladies. Seen some of that in this thread.

My advice is to try to get to know the ladies in whatever way suits your personality. It's pretty clear that most of them are into tickling but don't want to be somebody's virtual "pocket pussy." If the let's-get-right-down-to-business approach works for you, than by all means don't change something that's not broken. If on the other hand, you find a lot of women losing interest in you, it makes sense to change your strategy.

 

[MrPartickler]

A big part of this argument in my opinion stems from the basic differences between men and women in general. Men tend to be more physically oriented, direct, and want to get straight down to business. Women tend to be more relationally oriented, These aren't meant as blanket statements, as there are exceptions to this among both genders.

The guys that are all business are put off when the women want to take things more slowly, and the women are put off by the guys who want to move too quickly. Then you've got the grandstand guys who make a big show of chiding the eager guys for being to forward with the ladies. Seen some of that in this thread.

My advice is to try to get to know the ladies in whatever way suits your personality. It's pretty clear that most of them are into tickling but don't want to be somebody's virtual "pocket pussy." If the let's-get-right-down-to-business approach works for you, than by all means don't change something that's not broken. If on the other hand, you find a lot of women losing interest in you, it makes sense to change your strategy.

That was really well-said, IMHO. Be honest, be yourself, do what works, but understand that not everyone will respond (e.g., ladies to guys) and/or approach (e.g., guys to women) in the way you would personally prefer. You really can't ask much more of anyone.

 

[Redmage]

Hey Lindy Hopper ,
Why don't you put about 5000 more posts on here telling me how I
should live my life . That way , I can ignore it about 5000 more times.
If you knew what I have achieved in my life doing anything that I choose ,
you would see just how pointless your argument is . So , until you come to
my home and see how content I am , doing things "MY WAY" , I will just
continue to ignore your pathetic criticism .

Works for me. See, Lindy wasn't insisting that you take her advice - she even said so. She was letting you know why a number of women here think you're a jackass, just in case you wanted to know. If that doesn't matter to you, no problemo.

And yes, this is a tickling forum. That's not to say it's a treat-women-like-non-persons forum, or a check-your-manners-at-the-door forum. The fact that (some) members come here to talk about things that some of them consider sexual doesn't make the forum a sexual free-for-all. And it doesn't mean that those who want to discuss something besides sex should find another forum in which to do it. There are whole sections of the forum in which such things are discussed, so saying "people here think about tickling, so I should be able to talk about tickling anytime, with anyone I like, regardless of their interests" is lame, not to say childishly self-centered.

 

[lishbeth_m/f]

I probably come off as bitchy haha I try not to be though...I know like in the chatroom I HATE pc's...everybody knows that...so if you PC me I will first say no pc's then I just ignore them...and not to be rude...but I like talking to EVERYBODY not just one person

beth

 

[LindyHopper]

Hey Lindy Hopper ,
Why don't you put about 5000 more posts on here telling me how I
should live my life . That way , I can ignore it about 5000 more times.
If you knew what I have achieved in my life doing anything that I choose ,
you would see just how pointless your argument is . So , until you come to
my home and see how content I am , doing things "MY WAY" , I will just
continue to ignore your pathetic criticism .

Aw, well that's kind of harsh! 😀 I thought I was the "Perfect-Lee fine Female!" Don't you still want fly to SF and be my slave? 😛 I'm recalling that I told you, "No thanks," because your approach rubbed me the wrong way.

But hey, that's cool - like I said before, you can do whatever you want. Personally, I find it easier when the *ssholes on this forum make themselves obvious - it saves me a lot of wasted time getting to know them.

I'm happy for you that you've achieved so much in your life. That's clearly why within a couple of weeks here you've apparently PMed every woman on this forum looking for a tickle-date. And certainly, this approach can work: PM a dozen women, or a hundred, and you might get one positive response back, and be content with that. You can choose not to care about the other 99 women who now think you're a jerk, and that's perfectly legitimate. You'll never meet us, and we'll have no impact on your life. But wouldn't it be nicer if you did, and we did, in a good way? 🙂

Anyway, I know you don't care what I think - you were quite adamant about that (though somehow, I think you're going to read this post anyway). 😉 But really, another reason that I sent it is because this thread is turning a lot of guys defensive - probably a lot of guys who haven't offended anyone. I don't think it helps any of them for us women to keep talking about "offensive behavior" in general, when the feedback is intended for just a few people. I suspect that any guys who wanted to learn from this thread what many women like and dislike, already have. And I'd like to thank you for that - you're good people. 🙂

 

[Strider]

To some of you folks who would like a sample of the PM's we get... I have deleted portions which may point fingers just to give you a clue.
I was PM'd about a response to a thread.
I answered that PM. (I always answer the first one) I gave a response very similar to those responses I give on the forums. *snip snip*

Dearest Tina ,
Your last letter was very nice , and don't worry
about "Rambling" on about tickling. When it comes to
that topic , there is NO limit . There can be many styles of tickling for "Deserving" girls like you ,
who are filled with so much passion that it can almost never be quenched. I have had many pretty
girlfriends and some of them were pretty good about
tickling , but none with your enthusiasm !!! Here are
some possibilities>>> I pin you down on the bed with
your arms over your head , in a position where I can
tickle your armpits while licking your nipples. When you are giggling like crazy for about ten minutes ,
I switch to your feet and tickle softly for about an
hour. Then the foot-tickling becomes more rapid and
you are really laughing and squirming. By this time ,
you are so turned-on that we have sex . After 3
orgasms , you ask me to pin you down again and
tickle your very very sensative clit until you BEG for
mercy.
Does this sound good ??? How would you rewrite
the script ???
Anonymous Member(***)-555-BLAH

Maybe it's just me... but this isn't my idea of what the first 2 PM's should contain. Hell... I've been talking to guys on here for 2 months that have never even gone the direction that this man went. There is a big difference in the content of a PM when the man shows respect for the 'lee he is talking to. This man... showed me no respect what-so-ever and in fact was degrading in his treatment of me as a person. He made me feel as if he viewed me as cheap and slutty.
There is a right way and a wrong way to approach us... if you want us to talk nice to you... talk nice to us, if you want our respect, show us some... we're not asking for a whole hell of a lot, and it shouldn't be that painful to give.

Damn. That's almost like one of those spam emails trying to get you to sign up for some random porn site.

My respect for the ladies here just shot through the roof seeing that this is what you actually have to deal with.

 

[LindyHopper]

It did not!

My respect for the ladies here just shot through the roof seeing that this is what you actually have to deal with.

You can't fool me! You respected us already. 🙂

 

[Tamia78]

*Hi-fives Lindy and Redmage*

Drew, I think you were right on point with different genders having different ways of thinking, and I think that's what I forgot. I'm here getting defensive about my personal position, and forgot that alot of guys are "hands-on, get down to business" people. I hate when I do things like that! *sigh*........

--T

 

[steph]

You've nothing to apologize for Tam~remember that guy~what the hell was his name? John Gray? "Women are from Mars and Men are from Venus"?
We just communicate differently gender-wise that's all. The fact this whole thread has turned so ugly-just to prove a point, is sad IMHO.

XOXO

*Hi-fives Lindy and Redmage*

Drew, I think you were right on point with different genders having different ways of thinking, and I think that's what I forgot. I'm here getting defensive about my personal position, and forgot that alot of guys are "hands-on, get down to business" people. I hate when I do things like that! *sigh*........

--T

 

[kis123]

Yes but this is as safe a place as you want to make it. There is always the option for anyone to just browse the forum without joining. Once you join (and this applies to any of us) you are opening yourself up by measure of degrees of how you operate it, to other people. Interactions with other people by there nature are often messy and don't always go the way we want. That can for example be another male (for instance) member of this forum objecting to something I say and then dragging me in to a flame war, or someone coming on as heavy handed cretin to female members of the forum.

Yet as I said in my post, if men PM you ignoring the fact that you are a Ler, then just block their PM's, and move on. Debate with intelligent people and ignore morons.

It's really a pathetic shame that I have to be the responsible one at all! It's a shame that common courtesy and common sense don't prevail. Some people (not just men) simply lack tact.

I have no control of other's lack of tact or as my mother and grandmother would've described "home training!" I can only control my response or reaction to it. Sometimes I choose to warn the offender, sometimes I simply don't respond and hope he crawls away on his own. But I really shouldn't have to do anything, but alas..........

As I've said before, most of the men here are gentlemen and I've had few problems. There's just a small group who just don't know the basics where women are concerned and it comes out in their PMs and posts.

 

[isabeau]

this thread is getting ridiculous.. attacking each other now? i think the thread has run it's course , and everything that has been said has been said.. now it's only a repeat over and over.. no one is going to convince anyone else, just saying the same old thing in different words.

i think the thread has run it's course..

isabeau

 

[toneus79]

this thread is getting ridiculous.. attacking each other now? i think the thread has run it's course , and everything that has been said has been said.. now it's only a repeat over and over.. no one is going to convince anyone else, just saying the same old thing in different words.

i think the thread has run it's course..

isabeau

Isabeau

You're taking this forum seriously again

 

[isabeau]

Isabeau

You're taking this forum seriously again

oo ooops i forgot.. don't pm me ok? hehehehehe actually i meant others are taking this thread and just re hashing things over and over.

isabeau

 

[chrisheaven]

excuse me, could you repeat that?