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Male=tickler Female=ticklee. Why?

Garret

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Why are Males allways the ticklers and Females allways the ticklees??😕
 
Hello, Garrett. I'm moving your inquiry to Tickling Discussion because there's no poll attached to it.

Men aren't always the ticklers, and women aren't always the ticklees. While M/F tickling is the preference of a lot of people here, many others prefer F/M. Many women enjoy tickling men as much or more than being tickled by men. Many men prefer the ticklee side as well.

Recently we have started labeling threads in the media and story forums to make them more gender-specific. Now it's easier to find the kind of content you prefer. Browse around and you will find there's quite a bit of interest in F/M material.
 
Garret said:
Why are Males allways the ticklers and Females allways the ticklees??😕

Not Always the case Garret.
There are alot of tickle switches in both genders there are just fewer that come out into the open about it or are affraid to for what ever reasons they have.

TTD
 
'ler and 'lee

the Tickler ('ler) is the one doing the tickling
the Ticklee ('lee) is the one being tickled.

Neither is gender-specific. Personally, I've always been a Tickler, and my wife has always been a Ticklee... but my favorite pics usually have a female in both roles.:devil:
 
Garret is not really mistaken...

Garret, you're mostly right, actually. Yes, there is some women tickling men, and a lot of women tickling women, but a lot more is men tickling women. Many people prefer women tickling women, because they can take turns being tickled, gaining the upper hand, whatever, and many men don't want to see another guy getting tickled. (This is mostly, some men do, but from my journeys on the net, most men prefer to see women being tickled.) So, instead of just seeing one girl being tickled by one guy, if one girl is tickling another girl, she can overtake the tickler and turn the tables, so, if it's potrayed in a video, lets say, you get two girls being tickled instead of one over-talkative guy tickling only one girl. I have found that girls have a much higher rate of tickling and not blabbing than guys. Guys have a habit of talking and talking and talking....and get so annoying you can't hear the girl laugh sometimes.

Now, why men are usually the ticklers, and girls are the ticklees? Guys usually run the companies, or write the stories., or take the pictures. Maybe guys fantasize more about tickling girls than girls about tickling guys or other girls. (According to Jay Leno, who got the information from some smart person, guys think about sex every other second, girls think about sex one out of every ten seconds...)

But instead of theories, lets just look at reality. Look at this forum. There are more guys on it than girls. Look at the member's pictures section. Almost all of them are guys, there are almost no girls who send in their photographs. The ones who do are all gorgeous so far, so I don't know why more girls don't send theirs in....or maybe no one has told them that!
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Lets say a thread is started, about whatever, But, it asks for girls opinions. Many of the responses, sometimes most of the responses, are from guys! And this isn't a bash to the guys, because sometimes a thread is directed at girls, and NO girls answer it, or one or two, and the subject just dies. If the guys didn't answer it, it would get any attention. There's just a lot more guys on this forum than girls, and I'm sure, ironically, most of the guys WISHED more girls would participate. We begin to assume that girls just aren't interested in tickling as much as guys, so we create fanatasies and fantasize about girls who like to be tickled, and some writers just put a guy as the tickler because they're basing it subconsiously on the reality that girls just don't like tickling or want to tickle. Even in real life, I see more guys tickling girls than girls tickling guys, or other girls.

I don't know, maybe the girls here haven't been told enough that they are beautiful, and shouldn't be afraid of participating. Post your photo, join in the discussions, you're all gorgeous, what are you waiting for?

Maybe girls just don't like tickling as much as guys, so the guys have to be the tickler. Maybe they do, but thinks it's wierd, or think since they don't look like a runway model, so don't join in, I don't know. That's my thoughts.....Any ideas?

😕
 
There are many more women posting pics than mabus states. Last time I checked, approximately one female member in every ten had posted her picture, while one male member in every 50 had posted his. So actually a higher ratio of women posts.

The fact is, there are many, many more men on this board than there are women. That's because many more men than women have strong enough sex drives to seek out sexual material. Exceptions to every rule, of course, but that's one of the big differences between men and women.

As for posting my picture, I don't need to be told I'm gorgeous. Like many others I do not post my pic because of privacy issues. I don't know who visits this board, I don't know all their reasons for visiting, and I don't believe they need to see my face while they're here.🙂
 
evilqueen said:
I don't believe they need to see my face while they're here.🙂

But, what about a pic of your feet in nylons awaiting a good tickling?
Good point on the sex drive, I can't argue with that😉
 
I'll see your dare and raise you...

Okay P.H., I've got a pic of my bare soles, oiled and ready for attention (sorry, currently no stockinged feet photos). I'll send it to Myriads to post as soon as you submit a photo of yours. 😛

I know you're a tickler, not a ticklee, and you have your own privacy issues. But the request for pics brings up a question:

Are the female members expected to be entertainment for the male members, or are we valued as more than tickle victims?

The women on this forum visit for a wide variety of reasons, same as the men. Some want to meet, some don't. Some want to cyber, some don't. And so on. Like a lot of the men, most women just want to lurk. Why the hell not? Like a lot of the men, they just don't have any reason to say anything. And they're entitled to that. Same as the men.

I don't see any women asking why more men don't post pics, or wondering out loud if the men lack self confidence if they don't post. Neither women nor men ask such questions about other men. So why do men ask it about women?

Women don't have to post. We don't have to chat, or meet. We don't have to do anything, but if we do, we've got our own reasons for doing it and will do it in our own good time. Same as the men.

evilqueen
a big fan of men, and women🙂
 
I think that the generalizations are more the problem than the discussions themselves. Saying things like "women don't" or "men don't" invariably offends those who "do." lol Still, the questions themselves are likely not intended to offend.

When disparities are apparent, clearly someone will voice them....eventually. People always look for "patterns" and try to explain them. Since this is a discussion group, I don't think we'll ever see a real end to questions along thses lines...whether they involve gender disparities, age differences, or anything else.

Since currently more men post, I'd expect more of those individuals to ask questions like that "aloud" to be men. The questions would be no less valid coming from women, though. The answers may be painfully obvious (e.g., more men on the internet in general, let alone into fetishes/porn..lol) but the questions will be asked from time to time in some form or another. Also expected will be the host of responses--also mostly from men--in attempt to explain the "pattern."

I hope women don't feel too "pressured" by the questions. In a discussion group like this, they're going to be asked by someone. If it's a guy doing the asking, he's asking other men just as much as any women out there reading. (Sorry, we, of the "Federation of Men" can't stop him from asking though. 😛 )

Oh, and peronally, I won't post a pic either, and won't ask anyone else to do so. (I've swapped with a few folks before, but only after chatting with them pretty well first.) Do I like seeing pretty faces? Sure, who doesn't? LOL Still, please, do what you wanna do. 🙂 (So please don't lump me in with the fraction of men who want more ladies' pics posted for "entertainment." 😛 )

😎
 
Good observations, Frink.

If it's a guy doing the asking, he's asking other men just as much as any women out there reading. (Sorry, we, of the "Federation of Men" can't stop him from asking though. )

"Federation of Men," LOL. We of the Sisterhood know of what you speak. We can't stop our own when one of them asks "Tell me, do you think I'm pretty? Be really, really honest." knowing that you are being lured into a trap from which you will emerge dazed and confused (and probably pissed off).😀

My 'entertainment' question comes out of left field on this thread and I hope P.H. Tickler (or anyone else) doesn't feel it was directed at him. It's just something that's been in the back of my mind as I've read some of the current threads and pondered why we often have trouble understanding one another.

But one thing's for sure (she said, searching frantically for the original point of this thread): Males aren't always the ticklers and females aren't always the ticklees.:cool2:
 
There are indeed guys who love getting tickled 😛. In my case, with no "'ler side interest" at all.

The other thing I don't get at all, is the idea of paying for, or sitting still throughout entire videos. Sure, I'll look at a pic now and again but...I'm far more driven to actually GET TICKLED than watch others have fun!
 
As I just posted in the F/M tickling thread...

It does seem that most guys prefer the LER role and aren't interested in submitting. That doesn't mean that we ladies aren't interested in taking a crack at them though. I know I tickle my hubby all the time. We both love both sides of the game. 😀

Ann
 
evilqueen wrote:
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Are the female members expected to be entertainment for the male members, or are we valued as more than tickle victims?

The women on this forum visit for a wide variety of reasons, same as the men. Some want to meet, some don't. Some want to cyber, some don't. And so on. Like a lot of the men, most women just want to lurk. Why the hell not? Like a lot of the men, they just don't have any reason to say anything. And they're entitled to that. Same as the men.
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The fact is, there are many, many more men on this board than there are women. That's because many more men than women have strong enough sex drives to seek out sexual material. Exceptions to every rule, of course, but that's one of the big differences between men and women.
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I'll go a bit further than this, even. I'm sure women have good reason to be hesitant before jumping into a tickling forum with a lot of guys.

I'm new posting here, but having spent years as a lurker on various 'net tickling places, I can state with confidence that the regulars on a well-established and -respected board like this are mindful of all the "rules" of fetish communities: respecting safe words, making sure everything is really consensual even if the "game" being played involves the pretense of apparent compulsion, etc.

But sadly, in the world outside the established fetish community, people are not always respectful of these rules. Unfortunately, tickling can be a rather popular means of non-consensual torture used by men against women. I've seen horrible letters to Dear Abby, Dan Savage ("Savage Love"), etc. that make me cringe, written by women describing how a boyfriend/date/etc. tickled them by force, without consent, sometimes for pretty long periods of time, and then claimed the victim had "no sense of humor" for being upset about it.

Given that this kind of crap is out there, who knows just how widespread but enough to appear in print in several places, it is very reasonable for women to be cautious about participating in a tickling board with lots of male 'lers. And I say this as a male who overwhelmingly prefers the 'ler side. The main reason I'm willing to be on the 'lee side occasionally, in fact, is to avoid even the appearance of sexism that I'm sure many women naturally associate with a guy who just wants to tickle them but never to be tickled.

Jeff
 
I'll expand the topic a little. I spend much of my time here on the General Discussion forum. Not many women there, but those who visit are valued.

One obvious reason that more men post is that most of us here are men. Another possibility is that men are socialized to be more outspoken than women. Ann and EQ, can you add any insight?

Strelnikov
 
in the spirit of fun ;-)

I, for one have never been to the member pics thread. I have always assumed that everyone on the net is a middle aged horny depraved male psycho killer... or just a male. (kinda puts a new spin on "Queen" lol).
I would never impose on a female or male(posing as a female) for information, pictures, "those kind of chats", or anything else. It's all bits and bytes, the best part of TMF is seeing the thoughts and ideas of other people who have similar interests.😉
 
A long reply to Strel's short question

Back around six months ago, when I was asked to help moderate here, I tried to figure out some things about the women on this forum. So I studied user names, and profiles, and the way people posted; and I determined that members who are plausible women - i.e., members who go out of their way to identify themselves as women - post at a slightly higher rate than the membership at large. I also found that, once she starts posting, a female member is more likely to keep posting than her male counterpart.

So women hold up their end of the contributions at the TMF. But since we make up such a small percentage of total membership, you won't see us unless you read the forums where most women spend their time: Tickling Discussion, Stories, and the Chat Room.

Why these forums? Because that's where the tickle talk is. Tickling, be it fantasy or reality, is the overwhelming reason why people come here. Also, women prefer words over pictures, so we don't lurk the media forums as much.

So. There are women here on the forum. On average, we post as much as men do. But we're hard to spot, and in some forums we're damn near invisible. Is this because men are socialized to speak up more? Well, partly. In a way.

Women are socialized not to create conflict. We are supposed to be peacekeepers; we seek accord. We will not post on a controversial thread because someone's feelings may be hurt, probably our own. We tend to personalize conflict - certainly not a trait restricted to women, but one identified with us.

So that's where women don't speak up. We'll tell you about our favorite books or movies. We'll talk about food (the TMF dinner thread), folks (JoBelle's sickbed thread) and fun (jokes and webcrack). And we'll talk about tickling. But we'll rarely join in a fight. That's not why we're here! 😛

eq

BTW, the other thing I notice keeps me from posting more is the repetitive nature of so many threads. How many times can I tell a roomful of strangers how I like to be tickled before I start feeling kinda funny about it?
 
Summed up very nicely, evilqueen!

Originally posted by evilqueen

So women hold up their end of the contributions at the TMF. But since we make up such a small percentage of total membership, you won't see us unless you read the forums where most women spend their time: Tickling Discussion, Stories, and the Chat Room.

Why these forums? Because that's where the tickle talk is. Tickling, be it fantasy or reality, is the overwhelming reason why people come here. Also, women prefer words over pictures, so we don't lurk the media forums as much.

So. There are women here on the forum. On average, we post as much as men do. But we're hard to spot, and in some forums we're damn near invisible. Is this because men are socialized to speak up more? Well, partly. In a way.

Women are socialized not to create conflict. We are supposed to be peacekeepers; we seek accord. We will not post on a controversial thread because someone's feelings may be hurt, probably our own. We tend to personalize conflict - certainly not a trait restricted to women, but one identified with us.

So that's where women don't speak up. We'll tell you about our favorite books or movies. We'll talk about food (the TMF dinner thread), folks (JoBelle's sickbed thread) and fun (jokes and webcrack). And we'll talk about tickling. But we'll rarely join in a fight. That's not why we're here! 😛

eq

BTW, the other thing I notice keeps me from posting more is the repetitive nature of so many threads. How many times can I tell a roomful of strangers how I like to be tickled before I start feeling kinda funny about it? [/B]

Especially this last part! I thought I was the only one who thought that! 🙂

~Thelma Lou

p.s. Oh...and I'm mainly a 'lee but frequently get to play the 'ler
 
I think I just wanted to see that there were actual real people that liked tickling, and I wasn't a freak or something. I am happy and content with myself, but there are people in this world that wouldn't see it that way. (This will continue in that long promised "mainstream" thread I will one day write...) But since I'm a guy, interested in seeing girls being tickled, I came to the conclusion that, logically, guys would want to tickle the girls. Girls have beautiful laughs, guys spend a lot of time trying to make girls happy because of the nature of male/female relationships, etc. (Some guys do everything to make women UNHAPPY, but that's another thread/story altogether!)

I enjoy the viewing the member's picture section every now and then just to see that yes, those are real, normal human beings on this forum, not a "middle aged horny depraved male psycho killer" as P.H. Tickler theorized. Heck, I can't believe there are other people who like pantyhose tickling like me! But, I don't know, the thought that, yes, there ARE beautiful women who enjoy tickling too tells me that this is something fun and almost "popular," I guess, I can't think of a word better than popular...

I come from south Louisiana, surrounded by christians everywhere, many of whom are always waiting to point the finger of judgement and condemnation at anything they perceive as unholy or different. Most of my friends are christians, many fundamentalists, and there's no way I would say I have ANY kind of fetish to them. (Of course, I don't talk about anything sex related, or private for that matter, small talk is about the only safe thing around highly religious people.) That's the reason I can't post my picture, you never know what fanatical people will do. It's sad, yes, but it won't change anytime soon. There aren't many athiests to be friendly with, because the few I know are pissed off at life and always pouting about something. I am a skeptical-faithful person, and don't hate christians, I would be considered one with much of what I believe, but most religious people accept what they believe as fact and refuse to gie it much thought, or debate it, or anything else. That closemindedness scares me.

I secretly wish and hope, though I know it isn't true, that I would know someone on this forum, who has some silly username, but is actually someone I see everyday. One of those pretty girls, or uptight churchgoers is actually, secretly, a member of this forum! I wish that one day I would browse into the photo section and see someone I know, so that I could breathe another sigh of relief, as if it's one more step to "fitting in." I don't know, that would be the greatest thing in the world! "Hey, I know that girl!" If it was a guy, it wouldn't be that exciting...I think I'm starting to sound like Andy Rooney. Don't worry, I'm not as old as Andy Rooney, it would take me 24 more years to even reach middle age, assuming middle age is 50 and I live until I'm 100. That would be nice.

Finding tickling sites on the web was the first huge sigh of relief, that "Hey, other people like this too, I not a mistake God accidently created!" That was nice thought too.

P.S. And yes, I too kinda get tired of hearing all the ways people want to be tickled, but I say keep posting them if it suits you, that's what the forum is here for.
 
I've been really impressed with many of the well thought out comments of "evilqueen" on htis thread about "why guys always are ticklers.... and girls always are ticklees". A lot of her comments ring close to home. As a male INFP Dom foot fan, and tickler, I don't fit into anybody's "square hole".

I've been familiar with many of the social differences, vanilla and "scene" between men and women, and yes there are normative types, but there are a few that fall between the cracks. And a few of us guys have more than just a couple hands full of varied interests (outside of the sexual, erotic, and tickling), though I'll admit most males are singularly 'driven'.

The fascination is that the ladies who do contribute to this fine list and others like it are very complete persons, and with plenty of native wit, insight, and yes.. ... passion.

It almost seems that where the twain actually "meet" in real life, there's just the right and proper number to fit into a balance, no matter what the gender or orientation.

Spenser
 
Re: Summed up very nicely, evilqueen!

Thelma Lou said:
Especially this last part! I thought I was the only one who thought that! 🙂/B]


Funny that Thelma. I thought *I* was the only one as well. After a dozen or so times, you fear the "She might like tickling a little TOOOO much." comment. Hmmm...is that poosible? 😉

Jo...who won't repeat what the women have said, but will just nod affirmatively. 😛
 
Re: I'll see your dare and raise you...

evilqueen said:
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Are the female members expected to be entertainment for the male members, or are we valued as more than tickle victims?


Well, I don't know about other guys, but I actually prefer seeing pics of females like that Sabrina from Magic Touch. She's one hell of a tickler! I wish she'd get her....er...hands..on me..well, at least her fingers digging into my ribs. 😀

I like seeing females as the ticklers a little more than as ticklees. Why? I guess I just can't help wondering what it'd be like to have some long nails diggin into my sides. I've already felt em one, diggin lightly into the back of my neck.....tickled like hell. And it almost gave me tingling sensations in *cough cough* ...OTHER parts of my body besides my spine. :devil:
 
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