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Meeting with a Recruiter next week: What to expect?

COOLCAT88

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A few weeks ago I requested some info about the Air Force. And today, the recruited has contacted me! After asking a "Few" preliminary questions, I agreed to meet with him next week, to get some more info.

Just to let everyone know, i'm just getting info. Nothing's concrete yet concerning if i'm able to serve. Anyone here who's been in the military or still in, what can I expect? What questions should I ask?
 
I think you made a good choice with the USAF. Ask them if you can get a guarnteed military job choice. I joined up back in 1986.After my ASVAB test,I was given the choice of mechanical for choosing. That pretty much meant anything in aircraft or vehicle mechanics.

It wasn't until basic was almost over that I got to choose my job from six or so choices. Try not to let them talk you into chosing munitions as a job.
 
They'll mostly ask about your criminal record and your health history. In my day, they asked if you were gay, but we don't have to worry about THAT anymore, now do we?

Definitely give your all to that Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery (ASVAB). That is going to determine which jobs for which you are eligible.

As for which of the four branches, well here is my quick summary of the pros and cons of each one.

Army
Pros - Offers the widest variety of vocations, and the widest variety of potential stations not only in the US, but in Europe and a Asia as well.

Cons - Basic training sucks. You have to qualify on combat skills such as firing a rifle or throwing a hand grenade. Plus you have a week long bivouac out in the field.


Navy
Pros - Best food in all the uniformed services. Easy to save money when you're on a ship.

Cons - You get stuck on a ship for months at a time, so that when you finally get free and jump the first ********** you can find, you end up with the clap or worse.


Air Force
Pros - It's physically the easiest of the four branches. It's not really intended for combat so you don't have to mess with grenade launchers or LAWs.

Cons - This branch is the most sought after, and therefore the most difficult to get in. Once you're in, promotions are slower and more difficult to come by.


Marines
Pros - If you make it through Boot Camp, you've really accomplished something of which few can boast. As fighting troops go, Marines are the best of the best...cream of the crop.

Cons - With the other services, once you complete your basic training, they lighten up on you considerably, instead of calling you meathead or shitforbrains all the time. Not so the marines. You'll likely get stationed in Okinawa which is abysmally hot and humid. There's a certain "Lord of the Flies" mentality in the Corps, in which whomever can kick the most ass is generally elevated above the others. You also get nice epithets like Jarhead as well as reminders of what the acronym MARINE "actually stands for," like Muscles Are Required, Intelligence Not Expected....or My Ass Rides In Navy Equipment.


My recommendation would be the Army.
 
If you do not plan on doing more than 4 years or so,USAF.

BTW

ARMY= Ain't Ready to be a Marine Yet. 😛

One thing about all branches. It is political,even a bit Orwellian.
 
ARMY= Ain't Ready to be a Marine Yet. 😛
Haha. Hey wait, wouldn't that be ARTBAMY? :blaugh:

But the good General is right. The USAF is the one most people want of the four. The only thing I would urge you strongly is to not join the Marines unless you really have something to prove.
 
Keep in mind, this guy has a quota to meet. So he will lie, cheat, steal, and
any other thing he can to get you to sign. I did my time in the Navy. Because
of my scores on my entry test, I got a guaranteed school upon completion of
boot camp and E3 stripes to go with it. Not to mention becoming a member of
some of the greatest guys I'll ever have the privilidge to know in the
submarine service.
 
here is the counter argument from getting guarantees from whatever branch you join,even if they are signed.Once you get to basic,and they feel like changing said gaurantee,all they have to say is,it's for the convienience of said branch of service.
 
Expect him to lie through his teeth. Get a military buddy or even acquaintance to help give you tips and points.
But here is the main thing:

MAKE SURE EVERY PROMISE HE MAKES IS WRITTEN ON PAPER. I cannot stress this enough. So many people go to the recruiter and get pulled in by the things they say, and they always let little things slide and not getting written into the contract.

You need to understand something: if it is written in your contract, they must abide by it (as do you!). If it is not written in the contract- IT IS WORTHLESS. I'm not a fan of writing in all caps but I just can't stress any of this enough. If he says you are going to get x amount of money, you are going to be stationed in X place... if it is not specifically written in your contract, you are entitled to NONE of it.

Don't take it from some guy online- go find someone who has done this before, or better yet several people who have done this before, and talk to them. Sit them down and ask them what they remember from their recruitment, what they liked and what they regret. Botch this and you are out of luck.

Also, I'm not sure if USAF does this, but ask them if they would suggest taking the bonus or not. It sounds silly when the bonus is a sizable sum of money, but there are a lot of perks about not taking it (it comes with a few requirements)

In terms of buddies/aquaintainces, my father, who is an E-8 in the army, is giving me tips and points as in what to ask, so i'm not going blindly into this.

Anyway, everybody is giving me useful information. i'll keep all this in mind when I go next week..
 
In terms of buddies/aquaintainces, my father, who is an E-8 in the army, is giving me tips and points as in what to ask, so i'm not going blindly into this.

Anyway, everybody is giving me useful information. i'll keep all this in mind when I go next week..

Excellent.
 
I have no idea whether this applies to the American military, but you may want to ask about the differences in pay among the trades. Up here, tech trades often come with higher pay, plus longer periods of paid training, and sometimes a promotion once said training is complete. Trades like communication techs, weapons techs, electrical/mechanical engineering, that kind of thing.

I had no time for any of that myself; I signed up to kill the enemy. But if you're a more forward-thinking man than I, you might consider those others.
 
I have no idea whether this applies to the American military, but you may want to ask about the differences in pay among the trades. Up here, tech trades often come with higher pay, plus longer periods of paid training, and sometimes a promotion once said training is complete. Trades like communication techs, weapons techs, electrical/mechanical engineering, that kind of thing.

I had no time for any of that myself; I signed up to kill the enemy. But if you're a more forward-thinking man than I, you might consider those others.

None of that here.
 
I have no idea whether this applies to the American military, but you may want to ask about the differences in pay among the trades. Up here, tech trades often come with higher pay, plus longer periods of paid training, and sometimes a promotion once said training is complete. Trades like communication techs, weapons techs, electrical/mechanical engineering, that kind of thing.

I had no time for any of that myself; I signed up to kill the enemy. But if you're a more forward-thinking man than I, you might consider those others.

Here, pay is strictly based upon the rank structure. However, some high-demand jobs offer enlistment incentive bonuses, awarded to troops once they complete their training. This means basic + tech schooling, includes a bunch of conditions you have to sign off on, saying you understand all the ways you could possibly NOT be awarded said bonus, and tends to require the troop to be proactive in making sure he/she gets the bonus once he/she HAS completed all required conditions. Oh, and it's taxed at about 28%. In the Marine Corps, the brokest branch of the four, where Marines are always encouraged to do more with less, I had a $4000 enlistment bonus that was reduced to $2880 after taxes, and I had to wait about 4 months after I was in the fleet before I saw it. Other branches tend to offer more generous enlistment bonuses.

As far as the original poster, this is going to be your life, so make sure you're thinking long and hard (*snicker*) about this. It's not gonna be just a job that you can quit if you don't like it. It's a commitment to serve, for a period of several years, whether you like it or hate it. As far as what branch to go into, any branch is a good choice, but it depends upon what you want out of the military. When I was still in high school, about 11 years ago, I thought about joining the Navy, since my father was in the Navy, and I thought I might try the same thing, with no other logical basis to my decision. In high school, I wore tie-dyed shirts and had hair almost down to my ass. At the school job fair, the Navy recruiter looked me up and down with a dirty look, handed me a business card, and said "Call me if you're interested." After that, I was not. I headed over to the Army booth seeking information. The Army recruiters seemed more interested in talking to other students about football than career options, and ignored me. I'd have checked the Air Force booth, but he was a no-show. I reluctantly approached the Marine recruiter's booth, as I felt it was something beyond my capabilities, but the recruiter took an active interest in me. He initiated the conversation, didn't judge my appearance, and in general, was very personable. The next year, when I was approaching graduation, the recruiter followed up with me, and kept my interest. I kinda jumped on the train on impulse, but I didn't regret it. I didn't really know what else I wanted to do, and all the college brochures started to look the same to me, and gave no useful information. I enjoyed my eight years with the Marine Corps and took a lot of my experiences with me to the civilian world. Wow! Big tangent! Anyway, think about what you want out of the military--the experience? The benefits? What piques your interest?

It's also probably gonna be difficult trying to decide what type of job to go into, since you don't really know any firsthand knowledge of what each job entails, but as previously stated, do your best with the ASVAB, as a high score will provide you with a larger number of choices. If you can, I recommend picking a job that will teach skills that are marketable in the civilian world. If your job ends up being too military-specific, you can always go to college while you're on active duty.

It's a big decision to make. I know I had more to say, but I'm tired and I can't think straight. Good luck with whatever you decide! If you have any questions, you're more than welcome to shoot me a PM. Good luck with whatever you decide!
 
Don't let the recruiter talk you into any job. Ask different recruiters the same questions to verify what is fact and what is BS.
 
Well everybody..

i have got back from the recruiter today, and here are my thoughts..

1. The recruiter was very helpful. Not like any of the stereotypical ones you hear about or what others have mentioned. Didn't get me to sign anything.

2. I took a practice ASVAB today. the minimum score you have to get is 36; I recieved a 51..

3.Then came the usual questions like any criminal convictions, of which I have none, what bills I currently have..

4. I did say that I have previously attended college at a 4 year university for 3 years, in which I earned at least 80 credits. This past year, I attended a community college, and I earned 6 credits. Based on the amount that i've earned, he said that I could go in as an E-3.

In conclusion, It was a good experience, and I got some useful information. He gave me some time in which to think about it, as I said that right now, the Air Force is an option for me.
 
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