More black women in fetish videos.

[SlaverTickler]

I have to tell you guys I would realy like to see more black women in fetish videos. I mena good looking one's not the the sloppy gehto trash that some of thease porn movie jers try to pass of as host. I realy like Lea (though I can't remeber what company she is with) and this one hardbodied chick that TC videos used in one video I have seen. To those companys that have made the effort to add a little "colour" to ther product I say Thank you.

 

[Iwon'tgrowup]

I probably wouldn't refer to someone as "sloppy ghetto trash," but one of my little privacies is my attraction to women of African descent. There's some great work with Black women prominently featured, and I surely wouldn't be opposed to seeing quite a bit more than we do now.

 

[SlaverTickler]

If the shoe fits....

When the adult film indistry is putting Jill Killy and Jenna Jameson types out there, and then through in some of the black women I've seen (like in Black Call Girls ect) I'd say they put vey little effort into finding realy hot black women. Out side of Blak Rein and any of the women in Lexington Steel movies. The best looking ones are in Black Rein but they never get it on with white guys... whats up with that.

Maybe "sloppy ghetto trash" sounds a little harsh, but do you think men of all types don't feel the same way. In the movie "October Pussy" there is a black chick who one of the few Black Beauties of the indastry, she (an several others ebony wonders) also apears in the Worlds Luckies Man. (the first one with Jon Dough) is the only time I have seen interatial sex sceans where more then one or two of the black chicks were realy hot.

 

[SYELLA]

I consider ''sloppy ghetto trash'' harsh, the same way I consider "inbred trailer trash'' harsh as well.Oh well ,I really dont want to get to deep into this .Kinda.But Slaver,If you have'nt allready, go over to the clips4sale site and check out Tickled Sole.Beautiful woman of african american descent being tickled out of their minds.Sexy women.And of course we have TC with black women like Missi and Porshe.Good looking black women are finding a interest in our fetish.

 

[Soda83pop]

The best looking ones are in Black Rein but they never get it on with white guys... whats up with that.

I am a member of Vanessa Blue's MSN club, and since she is one of those stars who is very vocal with her fans, I am gonna have to speak up on this comment.

Vanessa Blue has done plenty (take advantage of Google) of scenes with white gentlemen, as have the women in the movie you are refering to.

 

[kis123]

Maybe "sloppy ghetto trash" sounds a little harsh, but do you think men of all types don't feel the same way. In the movie "October Pussy" there is a black chick who one of the few Black Beauties of the indastry, she (an several others ebony wonders) also apears in the Worlds Luckies Man. Worlds. Worlds Luckiest Man (the first one with Jon Dough) in the only time I have seen interatial sex sceans where more then one or two of the black chick were realy hot.

Yeah, let's talk about the ghetto comments. They're a little hard to digest coming from someone with the word "slave" in his screename.

No, not "maybe" sounds harsh-the term "ghetto" in anything referring to blacks is DEFINITELY harsh! I can't begin to represent the opinions of men of all types, especially being female. But I really don't think all men have the same opinion you're expressing.

Besides, ghettos originated in Europe. There have been polish, jewish, and other races/religions forced to live in these areas. They developed a sense of unity and community not seen much today. It's really not as a negative term as it has been used in reference to black people.

There's nothing wrong with having an opinion. But if you're going to make it public, it would be greatly appreciated if it wasn't so offensive.

 

[ShadowTklr]

There's nothing wrong with having an opinion. But if you're going to make it public, it would be greatly appreciated if it wasn't so offensive.

I'm guessing that the comment was made with deliberate effort to get someone's goat. It was a stupid comment, ignorantly made in an attempt to say something colorful. (DOH!)

In support of Kis123's rightful outrage, the term is indeed a nasty way to refer to these women of color for whom you have no attraction. I would suggest in the future, you review other descriptive statements that don't carry a stereotypically racial slant.

 

[ShadowTklr]

If The Shoe Fits....??

When the adult fil indastry is putting Jill Killy and Jenna Jameson typed out there, and then through in some of the black women I've seen (like in Black Call Girls ect) I'd say they put vey little effort into finding realy hot black women.

Sorry, I didn't mean to make a second consecutive post, but I just read this follow-up post you made, and I felt compelled to make an observation that may speak to why you sound so ignorant - not once, but twice. "If the shoe fits?"

Now, I'm not saying that you should find ALL black women attractive, and I'm not even saying that you should refrain from saying they're unattractive to you if that's what you think, but using racially derogatory phraseology is definite grounds for a correction.

You might try taking into consideration, the fact that women of color are generally different looking than white women. Having said that, it is obvious that you are seeking Caucasian characteristics in black women as you make your comparison. The reason why YOU find so few black women to be attractive may be because what you really want is a brown-skinned Caucasian.

Bearing that in mind, why not just stick to looking at nicely tanned white women, and pretend they're black? It will probably work better for you, since ethnic appreciation seems a little outside your understanding.

 

[tricham]

Well said

Yeah, let's talk about the ghetto comments. They're a little hard to digest coming from someone with the word "slave" in his screename.

No, not "maybe" sounds harsh-the term "ghetto" in anything referring to blacks is DEFINITELY harsh! I can't begin to represent the opinions of men of all types, especially being female. But I really don't think all men have the same opinion you're expressing.

Besides, ghettos originated in Europe. There have been polish, jewish, and other races/religions forced to live in these areas. They developed a sense of unity and community not seen much today. It's really not as a negative term as it has been used in reference to black people.

There's nothing wrong with having an opinion. But if you're going to make it public, it would be greatly appreciated if it wasn't so offensive.

It amazes me that in this day and age, there are still people who dont have the common sense or maturity to express themselves without name calling. Also people who make comments as idiotic as that really say more about themselves than anyone else. Look at his comments again, (see all the mispelled words) Don't you agree?

 

[SlaverTickler]

Seems to me...

It seems to me that, as always, people have twisted the true intention of this thread. What started out as an atempt to show suport for more black models in fetish/adult material, has been turned into "white boy bashing". I am sorry if my words offended some people, or if my poor spell bothers you.

The brown skined cocation crack sounded pretty racist to me, but nobody seemed to notice that one. Speaking of complection, Tyra Banks and Tracy Bingham seem to have fairly dark complections as do Gabriele Union and several of my favorit black celebs. For the record just about all my Table Dances are from dark skined black Canadian women.

As for the "Slave" in my handle (and it's Slaver), I just thought it sounded cool. Most people in the chat room seem to thing it's cool, and I get alot of attention form the F lee's because of it. So put that in your pipe and smoke it Kis.

Once again while reaching out a hand of suport, a blue colour white guy gets kicked in the teeth. It's a wonder I ever made it to over 1000 posts on the forum. When you don't show suport you get called a racist, and when you try to show suport your motive are in question.

 

[kcantankerous]

Your acting like opening doors for minorities to a damn fetish or porn industry is that much of a big deal. Its like shit lobbying for pee to get flushed down the same damn toilet. Yeah yeah I watch this stuff aswell, so what it is what it is.

 

[kis123]

It seems to me that, as always, people have twisted the true intention of this thread. What started out as an atempt to show suport for more black models in fetish/adult material, has been turned into "white boy bashing". I am sorry if my words offended some people, or if my poor spell bothers you.

As for the "Slave" in my handle (and it's Slaver), I just thought it sounded cool. Most people in the chat room seem to thing it's cool, and I get alot of attention form the F lee's because of it. So put that in your pipe and smoke it Kis.

Once again while reaching out a hand of suport, a blue colour white guy gets kicked in the teeth. It's a wonder I ever made it to over 1000 posts on the forum. When you don't show suport you get called a racist, and when you try to show suport your motive are in question.

No one called you a racist-I personally found the "ghetto" comment tacky! The only time the term gets used is towards blacks, even though the term is hundreds of years old. You really didn't think you were going to use the term and not have someone call you on it, did you? That was simply delusional on your part. If you want to compliment, encourage, or support a race of people, I suggest you do so in a positive manner and leave the "ghetto" comments out! They are OFFENSIVE, no matter how you slice it!!

I don't care who finds you screenname cool, you made the comment, and I pointed out a coincidence. If you don't want anyone else pointing out the same thing, I suggest you find a better way to express yourself. Or, you have the choice to continue appearing ignorant in print!

 

[BellaRisa]

Kis, we need to hire you at BellaRisa to answer our email; as one of the few women of color in the tickling industry, I find Slavertickler's posts pretty par for the course, sadly. Some of our 'fans' are, shall we say, interesting; if you saw the insane letters and requests I receive on a weekly basis you'd have started the revolution long ago 🙄 . I don't know what's more wrong: the ones who seem to forget that I *am* a black woman doing this, the ones who LOVE me but are angry that I don't have more of my black girlfriends in my videos (because of course all my friends must be black AND ticklish AND want to be in a fetish video ) or the ones who want me to dress up as a Snow White lookalike and hire 7 black midgets to tickle my feet. And no I did NOT make that up. Makes me want to hide far, far under the bed somedays...

Bella

 

[ShadowTklr]

It seems to me that, as always, people have twisted the true intention of this thread. What started out as an atempt to show suport for more black models in fetish/adult material, has been turned into "white boy bashing". I am sorry if my words offended some people, or if my poor spell bothers you.

If you pour a big bowl of punch for everyone, and then drop a turd in it, should everyone look past the floating turd to drink the punch? YOU dropped the turd in the punch bowl by using that phrase and contaminated your OWN true intention.

And what’s all this about “White boy bashing?” Who said anything about bashing you because you’re white? Other than YOU making the “ghetto trash” statement, who has made an issue of color here? You made a racially degrading statement in your reference to some black female fetish models, and people had something to say about it. What does that have to do with YOU being white? Listen, the laundry department wants their soapbox back.

The brown skined cocation crack sounded pretty racist to me, but nobody seemed to notice that one. Speaking of complection, Tyra Banks and Tracy Bingham seem to have fairly dark complections as do Gabriele Union and several of my favorit black celebs. For the record just about all my Table Dances are from dark skined black Canadian women.

My “crack” as you put it was NOT racist. It was an observation. I think that was obvious to everyone, well, except you.

I’m relieved to know that black women perform most of your table dances. I hope you’ll speak to this in greater detail at the next African-American Women-In-Enterprise Conference. This isn’t about you being a racist. This is merely about your poor choice of vernacular. All you had to say was “I’m sorry. I didn’t mean it the way it came out.” And move on. But you keep trying to deflect responsibility for your own lousy choice of words, by attempting to make yourself into a target.

Once again while reaching out a hand of suport, a blue colour white guy gets kicked in the teeth. It's a wonder I ever made it to over 1000 posts on the forum. When you don't show suport you get called a racist, and when you try to show suport your motive are in question.

So, what you really think happened is that you tried to reach across color lines to offer some support, and the forum beat you down for it. You see, Slaver, therein lies your ultimate problem. You’re not a blue-collar white guy getting a bad shake from black people for trying to like them. You’re just a guy who said something inappropriate in reference to a SPECIFIC group of people. The sooner you acknowledge the simplicity of it all, the easier it will be for you to stop seeing yourself as a martyr.

 

[Lost_My_Mind]

I think things got a bit distorted here, as perception much like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. By that i mean that I personally percivied the comment a bit differently then anyone thusfar. Maybe by "sloppy ghetto trash" he wasnt making a statement to imply all black people are ghetto trash, but instead drawing the line of distinction between trashy black girls (which is not what he wants) and classy black girls (which is what he does want).

There is a major difference between all people regardless of race. Likewise if you choose to make race a factor and break it down that way, then there are several different types of that race within the race.

There is a major differance between a black girl who's known for wearing fubu jeans, a tanktop, weave in her hair,
and known for saying "oh no dat bitch didnt!" while bobbing her head left to right in opposition to her right hands index finger......from a black woman who speaks intelligantly dresses nicly and known for getting her point across in a way that demands respect.

I could take any race, gender, religion or any other defining group of individuals and seperate them based on fact to show how no group is exactly alike. I know the differances in culture, race and religion better then most being a white athiest metal-head male who goes out with a black christian r&b loving female.

I think the statement he's like to say is something more along the lines of:

"I would like to see some more black female lee's. And not those classless kind, i want to see a sophisticated, elegant, beautiful black woman more along the lines of halle barry instead of lil kim"


At least thats MY take on the statement, i could be wrong. I do agree with the statement if i'm not though.

 

[SlaverTickler]

Lost is right.

Lost seems to be the only one who understands what I ment by what I said. Unfortunetly it makes no real difference. No matter how I worded it some one would have said it was bad to have wrote it. If you mention black people and your not a black person, even if your intentions are good you get slapped in the face for it. I guess I'll just take my "Cracker ass cracker" self and go.

 

[kcantankerous]

I'm black and I probably woulda used the same phrase although not on this thread. I wonder if its framing or just exposer. But I run into alot of getto trash, or wanna be getto black people. I have no problem with SlaverTickler, I actually have more of a problem with some of these idiot rappers and other punks that think they carry the tourch for all of us. If I run into one more person, from any race, that says I don't talk black I'll knock their lights out. I almost came to blows with other blacks because of their stupid ass comments. And if it is true that I dont sound or act black, then hell I may as well be my own race then. Also some of you damn well know what slavertickler was refering to when he said "sloppy getto trash". It's like saying sloppy trailer trash. Course I suppose if you live in a getto I could see getting up in arms.

 

[Iwon'tgrowup]

I was the first respondent to the original post. The word ghetto is almost incidental for me. Knogz is right about that. Trailer or any derogatory term referring to location would work just as well. In my city, even community names that were once proud now connote poverty, crime and undesirable living conditions.

SlaverTickler's original post could easily be interpreted as racist, despite his intent. But my problem lies in the words sloppy and trash. I hate hearing any human being referred to in these terms. We all have value.

I live in the United States, where there is a First Amendment right to free speech. So I support the right of anyone who participates in this wonderful forum to express themselves any way they choose. Conversely, those of us who respectfully disagree with a poster's choice of words have an equal right to state that disagreement.

Choosing words carefully is important, because feelings are at stake and words can wound as well as heal.

 

[drew70]

For me, attractivity is the norm for women of color. I find the majority of them hot. "Sloppy ghetto trash"? Sure, that could apply to any race, but the context in which it was used was in bad taste, to say the least.

 

[lilnastydude]

I wish there were a place where all the dumbasses could go and be together. That way they wouldn't have to look far for people with the same dumbass ideologies. (ideology - a body of ideas reflecting a person's beliefs) Dumbass

 

[SYELLA]

Both ''sloppy ghetto trash'' and "sloppy trailer trash''are derogatory terms.Just plain unnecessary.And I would still find them offensive with either a middle class or a lower class background.Think this is getting off the subject of tickling somewhat.

 

[ShadowTklr]

I think things got a bit distorted here, as perception much like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. By that i mean that I personally percivied the comment a bit differently then anyone thusfar. Maybe by "sloppy ghetto trash" he wasnt making a statement to imply all black people are ghetto trash, but instead drawing the line of distinction between trashy black girls (which is not what he wants) and classy black girls (which is what he does want).

Don't get ahead of yourself now. Nobody said he referred to ALL black people. No one said that. I understand exactly who he was talking about, and I have said that a couple of times already. Please don't interject something that never existed into the post.

Quite frankly, I took the comment to mean exactly what you just said. That doesn't excuse the comment itself. The context is not the problem, and the differentiation is not the problem. The problem is the comment. It shows a lack of tact and sensitivity for the people reading it.

 

[ShadowTklr]

Lost seems to be the only one who understands what I ment by what I said. Unfortunetly it makes no real difference. No matter how I worded it some one would have said it was bad to have wrote it. If you mention black people and your not a black person, even if your intentions are good you get slapped in the face for it. I guess I'll just take my "Cracker ass cracker" self and go.

Wrong. But then again, you have chosen to insist on this course of nonsense since your original post. If you want to be the poor "cracker ass cracker," then please remember that it's your pity party and no one has accepted an invitation, but you.

Since you can't take criticism in the spirit in which it was given, then the problem is yours to deal with. No one called you a racial name, or made issue of your race at all. You made it a race issue in the beginning, and now you're the only one making a race issue of it now.

I suggest you get some professional assistance to deal with your psychological inferiority complex that seems to revolve around your color. It seems to be dogging you to the degree that you can't stop calling yourself names. Really, it's gotten tired already.

 

[kis123]

I think things got a bit distorted here, as perception much like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. By that i mean that I personally percivied the comment a bit differently then anyone thusfar. Maybe by "sloppy ghetto trash" he wasnt making a statement to imply all black people are ghetto trash, but instead drawing the line of distinction between trashy black girls (which is not what he wants) and classy black girls (which is what he does want).

There is a major difference between all people regardless of race. Likewise if you choose to make race a factor and break it down that way, then there are several different types of that race within the race.

There is a major differance between a black girl who's known for wearing fubu jeans, a tanktop, weave in her hair,
and known for saying "oh no dat bitch didnt!" while bobbing her head left to right in opposition to her right hands index finger......from a black woman who speaks intelligantly dresses nicly and known for getting her point across in a way that demands respect.

I could take any race, gender, religion or any other defining group of individuals and seperate them based on fact to show how no group is exactly alike. I know the differances in culture, race and religion better then most being a white athiest metal-head male who goes out with a black christian r&b loving female.

I think the statement he's like to say is something more along the lines of:

"I would like to see some more black female lee's. And not those classless kind, i want to see a sophisticated, elegant, beautiful black woman more along the lines of halle barry instead of lil kim"


At least thats MY take on the statement, i could be wrong. I do agree with the statement if i'm not though.

I would love to agree with you except for one minor thing:

He hasn't changed his statement, has he???

Some things are better left unsaid, and definitely un-printed (if there's such a term). It was a poor choice of words and they basically pissed me off. I approached him in an intelligent manner to discuss my issues. Then, he tells me to stick something in a pipe and smoke it? And you think I'm off course here? I'm not!

If he were going to talk about any race of people other than blacks, he wouldn't have used the term "ghetto". Sorry dear, it's a negative term when used against the black race, right up there with the dreaded "N" word! I could've handled the term sloppy-looking and he could've left it there. Since he chooses to attack rather than correct himself, whatever he gets, he gets around here.

 

[kis123]

I'm black and I probably woulda used the same phrase although not on this thread. I wonder if its framing or just exposer. But I run into alot of getto trash, or wanna be getto black people. I have no problem with SlaverTickler, I actually have more of a problem with some of these idiot rappers and other punks that think they carry the tourch for all of us. If I run into one more person, from any race, that says I don't talk black I'll knock their lights out. I almost came to blows with other blacks because of their stupid ass comments. And if it is true that I dont sound or act black, then hell I may as well be my own race then. Also some of you damn well know what slavertickler was refering to when he said "sloppy getto trash". It's like saying sloppy trailer trash. Course I suppose if you live in a getto I could see getting up in arms.

I guess I need to get a couple of things on the table here.

I'm not up in arms over this little drama. I'm not an over sensitive black person who feels her civil rights have been violated. I'm not that extreme at all! I'm concerned for his lack of tact on a public message board. I'm concerned about his disrespectful comments after I called him on a couple of things. There's a right and a wrong way to do things, and I'm leaning on the side of wrong on this one too. His terminology was derogotory any way you slice it and I called him on it. That's the way this board works-if you make comments, you might get called on them. I've been through this myself-it's the nature of the beast. If you don't want someone commenting about something you said, this is not the place for you (and that goes for everyone here, not just him).

And I do understand how you feel about the not "talking black" enough. I go through it everyday. People think I'm the ebonics dictionary at my job. I don't have a clue what most of it means! My children go through the same thing at school. It's as if just because we're black, it means we behave the same way and have no sense of individuality. Some people watch way too much TV!