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MSN group for str8 guys into tickling

I agree with you Bill but here is a question that begs to be asked. Can you tickle another human being without it being sexual? The answer is yes of course you can. I use to tickle my now ex-wife's girlfriends all the time and I never thought it in a sexual context. Of course my ex was always there but (ahthose were the days). Back on track... I tickle my sister and (when growing up) my brothers with out the feeling of stirring in my stomach. But they are siblings. Can a straight guy tickle another straight guy without sexual tension? I don't know. I am not about to experiment either. I am curious about the answer though. We live in a world where ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE. maybe we shouldn't close our minds to it. What is your opinion I'd like to know.
 
Mimi I wasn't questioning his sexuality. At first I did but if you read on I have open the idea that maybe it is possible and that we should not close our minds to it. I am not trying to slam him at all. Infact in my previous post I try to compare it to tickling siblings and it a previous post I asked why we accept f/f tickling and not m/m tickling? I am just trying to keep the discussion open not to slam the guy but to ask if it is possible? I think it is an interesting topic. One worth taking the time out to discuss. My view is it is possible but I would rather not tickle or be tickled by another guy. But again that is an opinion. Life is about preference. Who am I to judge it to be right or wrong?
 
Just a hint for the original poster: Please don't take this as some sort of comment on your own preferences, but slang terms like "str8" are generally used by (and associated with) homosexuals. If you're looking to attract straight men to your group, you might benefit from taking the second to type out the extra four characters...
 
Do we have people under 18 posting here? This thread makes it seem that way..... F/F happens all the time in video's, do you think every one of them are homosexual or bi? Not a chance. I'm as straight as they come but have tickled a guy before. Also, Mimi is right, no need to make fun of the guy for posting a link. It's his preference. If you do not like it then why click on "reply" in this thread, period??

I really don't see anyone "bashing" him and it's your right to express your opinion in a civil way but something like "umm, ok" will just bring flames.... Just my opinion.
 
Knox The Hatter said:
In this case, without the sexual component, what would be the motivation? What would be the point?

A valid question, given that for me, it's as sexual a thing as you could possibly imagine (and there are times when it isn't, of course...). No ill will here.
 
I personally agree that I can;t explain why in this society is it acceptable to see F/F tickling while the subject of M/M tickling can make people question why is it OK for one gender while not the other..
AS a few have commented that siblings tickle each other for the fun of it which is true,I would also like to state that a married couple may have a playful/fun time tickling each other which is only natural for one or both to become aroused at same time while another couple could enact a scenerio where the tickler is tickling the ticklee erotically ..
Let me ask this to see what responses arise: Picture a straight guy ticklee being tickled at a gathering by a few or a number of lady Lers when along comes another straight male Ler,lee that sees the ladies tickling this other guy and the thought crosses his mind whether he should join in tickling this other guy thinking he might/would like to tickle this guy as a possible way to impress one of the lady lers that he has had his eye on..Would it make it different tickling this other guy because there are ladies tickling him rather than the guys being one on one/?
With that being said, I believe that as Lers;s that we do need to have some kind of idea what the restrictions/boundaries of the individual ticklee are and once we know what they are, we must respect those limits.
 
tickleshotel said:
when along comes another straight male Ler,lee that sees the ladies tickling this other guy and the thought crosses his mind whether he should join in tickling this other guy thinking he might/would like to tickle this guy...

all i know is in that situation, out of respect for the guy being tickled, he sure as hell better ask the permission of that guy before he jumps in and starts tickling. to a straight guy that wants no part in being tickled by a straight or gay man, that's almost a sort of sexual assault if permission isn't given.

just my take on that.
 
You know thinking about it, why can't it be just for fun? And TIB, I think that percentage is bloated a little bit. Not all people look at tickling in a sexual way because it is two different entities entirely. Every now and then when my brothers and sisters get into ticklefights my brothers tickle me, and I tickle them back. Siblings tickling each other. Now does that put me in the gay category??
 
You know Hotel and I talked about this thread before she posted it.I asked her for her opinion on this subject . So thank you Hotel for your input. I have tickled and been tickled by my siblings and never thought it to be sexual. I want guys to answer this question without using the term " because it is acceptable in society." I am well aware what society accepts. Why do YOU accept F/F tickling among straight(not bi-sexual but straight)women but don't accept M/M tickling among straight men? My opinion: men are afraid(myself included)it will turn into something more. What is your opinion? I'd like to know.
 
natural tickler said:
Every now and then when my brothers and sisters get into ticklefights my brothers tickle me, and I tickle them back. Siblings tickling each other. Now does that put me in the gay category??
🙂
nope. it doesn't put you "in the gay category."
that's your brothers and sisters... thats in "good fun." (at least i hope it is, haha)

look, i don't mind if someone wants to be gay. and be gay and tickle. i won't stop them or hate them for it. my only small input on this thread was that if a gay man wants to tickle and be tickled by straight guys, then he should be up front and honest about his sexual preferences, for the straight guys sake.
heck, perhaps he'll even find straight guys that don't mind being in a club that has gay guys and straight guys all tickling each other and cybertickling each other.
you never know!

i only thought that maybe the title of the thread, and title of the club might be considered misleading IF the captain of the club is a gay man. who knows. he may not even be. i have no proof either way. but if he is gay, then the title is unfair and misleading, because the title conveys that he is straight.

🙂
 
ticklingfeet4fu said:
Why do YOU accept F/F tickling among straight(not bi-sexual but straight)women but don't accept M/M tickling among straight men?

thats easy. 🙂
i do accept M/M tickling.
i just won't participate in it myself.
like i said. gay guys are welcome to tickle the hell out of each other. so are straight guys. just as long as there is no misleading going on, thats all. really simple.

so i would warn straight men wanting to try it to be sure the other man is straight, unless.... you don't want him to be straight, in which case you might not be either, in which case no warning is needed, in which case... i better stop.
:wow:
 
Mosts guys are turned off by M/M and I don't know any girls that could really get into watching it. Being the least indulged faction it became the most highly discriminated faction. People consider M/M wierd the same way most people would consider tickling fetishes wierd. Kinda funny really...
 
That is so very true. I agree with you. I mean Red is right because ticklers as a general rule of thumb are considered weird different and that is fact. So M/M is is looked at as even more odd than tickling itself. Kinda makes sense.
 
welcome to the world of double standards. ever since i came out out I've gotten to know them very, very well. :sowrong: I love anything m/m, so thank you for posting my friend. I'll check it out pronto.
 
Straight Tickling

First, thanks to the moderator for reminding everyone that this message board is for all 4 types (f/f, f/m, m/f, m/m) of tickling.

Secondly, the MSN group has to have the term "Str8" in it because the group is not for all types of M/M tickling. The group is not for sexual m/m tickling. I'm not bashing those into sexual m/m tickling, just saying that I'm not.

There are people who haven't realized, or refuse to realize, that there is sexual vs. non-sexual tickling.

The guy that first started that MSN group and I are straight. I've actually tickled my fellow straight guy friends (we're in our 20s) alot, and they've retaliated by tickling me as well. Not flirtatious tickling, not naked tickling, not tickling in sexual places (genitals, ass, etc), just tickling. It may be a suprise to some reading this that we've never concluded our tickling episodes with a grand orgy. LOL Thats just not in our nature.

I understand the guys that say "there must be something fishy about this str8up tickling group" because I understand they're not separating tickling from sex. I'm not bashing people that don't separate tickling from sex, just saying that I do.

The only reason other straight guys and I tickle other guys is to make them laugh alot, not foreplay. I've tied and tickled alot of guys and had them laughing without control, its pretty cool actually.

Yes, for me, tickling girls is cool too, but not to make them laugh completely out-of-control for an extended period of time. Just light and flirty tickling.

I see that more people have joined our MSN group for straight guys into tickling the past couple of days, must be because of this thread. Thanks to the TMF moderators for keeping a cool group.

Later...

Jay
 
My 3 cents, 'cause I just gotta

For the record, there many, **MANY** women who enjoy M/M tickling, spanking and other activities. Myself included. It's been found that the vast majority of M/M stories online and real time are written by straight women. We don't talk about it because of the negative reactions from so many others, but as you must know by now I personally don't give a mouse's rear (heh).

Just as many men enjoy seeing two females engage in various activities even if the ladies aren't sexually attracted to one another, so it is with women and the M/M genre. Sometimes I find it arousing, but many times it's a very different, non-sexual type of enjoyment. Personally I have a major interest in power, discipline and control dynamics, and I'm drawn to such relations between men, both sexual and non; Military dynamics, Daddy/boy relations...the spectrum is very diverse and vast. That's why I enjoy wrestling (the real wrestling, not the Caped Avenger malarkey on tv) and Judo and other such sports. The more my boyfriend tells me about football the more I find myself wanting to watch. And by the way, the fact that so many men love football and wrestling and other such close physical "pat each other on the heinie and butt heads" contact sports while shuddering over M/M tickling or spanking is simply hilarious to women 🙄 😛 . I know, I know, it's totally different. Um, no. It's not. Serious, no holds barred M/M tickling is ROUGH and RAW, as is M/M spanking, and few women I know could handle it-that's a major reason the straight guys who engage in them do so. A guy feels freer to go truly nuts on another 200 lb guy than he does on a 130 lbs female for some things, hardcore tickling included. Furthermore, for a lot of ticklephiles humiliation and dominance are very important factors. Turning another male into a helpless blob of begging without actual pain can be an incredible rush for both parties, one that I totally understand. And I think others here 'get' that too, whether they're comfortable enough in their masculinity to admit that or not 😉 . So fellas, while you're making sure we all see you shaking your head 'no' at such activity, keep in mind that lots of folks of both sexes enjoy it and are happy to see such a group in existence😎

Bella
 
I remember Jay when he was CoolTickleGuy at the AMT newsgroup. My reaction to his invitations was similar to the first responses to this thread. I talked with him, asking him about this seeming dichotomy between the concepts of "str8" and "m/m." Though an answer wasn't required of him, he explained to me openly his reasons and position. Though I didn't grasp it at the time, I've thought about it over the years and finally concluded it was possible and even likely that certain guys (when I say 'certain' I don't mean 'gay') could have fun tickling each other without any sexual intentions. After all, women do it.

I would even take it a step further and speculate that if a straight guy has a vast life-long obsession with tickling, he might reach a point in his life where he could get a sexual charge out of tickling or being tickled by another guy. It's not the other guy's face, body, or genitals that turns him on. It's the things Bella mentioned. The control, the outrage, the dominance, and the humiliation. I never thought I'd ever believe this, but I've concluded that the ACT of tickling itself is bisexual in that it can be performed on either gender by either gender. I've found that I harbored a certain envy toward people like Yaqi and Bob Hare who can enjoy ticking between all genders rather than restricting himself to one or two gender orientations. I hope to be there one day, but at the moment my current interests are mostly for female ticklers. 😀
 
IMHO, tickling is many things to many people. For some it's not sexual, for some it is. However, i remember Myriads once stated it very well, that tickling(fetishes in general, actually) can transcend gender. Personally, i agree completely with this arguement. Even though it might sound odd, personally, i wish m/m tickling was much more widely accepted and practiced. Now, i know we all have little control over what turns us on, but it would be a hell of a lot more convienent, i'd say.
 
I do believe I will stick to my Tuesday night bowling league for my male bonding. When one of us bowls a strike we give each other high fives or a handshake. Call me old fashioned but tickling members of my bowling team would probably get us kicked out of the league.
 
I have no problem with 2 men tickling each other. but in my personal opinion, 2 straight guys tickling each other is a little fruity.
 
I'll go along with those who say that if f/f tickling is okay and need not be sexual, that the same goes for m/m tickling. Furthermore, I agree with those who say that the objecton some have to m/m tickling is based on an out of date social attitude. It has not been all that long since it was thought wierd for one football player to smack another on his rear, but times have changed.
 
simple

for those who find tickling so overwhelmingly sexual,,it must be almost impossible for them to accept that tickling can be anything other than a turn on,,and then you have the fear factor,, the fear that some guys have where they simply cannot give over that kind of controll to another guy,, i myself have experianced this at work with guys who think its funny to sneak up on me and tickle my ribs,, everytime it happens i feel so strange,, of course it tickles cause im ticklish,, but because of my feelings for it it always leaves me feeling kinda violated lol! i have to keep reminding myself that tickling for many is just a fun activity and not the turn on that it is for us the members of this forum,,
 
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