My latest tickle session: Is it weird to enjoy firmly tickling ladies upperbody?

[eddyderf]

Thread 'do most ppl here find it weird for a girl to be an extreme ler?'

May 4, 2024

cause I get loadsa DMs from ppl saying they are shocked I’m a ler and trying to force me to rp with them and tell them what I would do (and I dont rp or act like a slave to guys demanding I do it)

but anyway, I always thought it was normal to be a ler as a female 😂

• natscott6282
• Replies: 137
• Forum: Tickling Discussion

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In the spirit of equality I was inspired by the above thread by Natscott (I like how real and matter of fact she is). I just had a tickling session that was 80% upperbody and 20% feet and legs (M/F). I learned from that discussion that it is perfectly okay for a lady to extreme tickle men to their limits (or was it beyond?). In fact a few men giddily volunteered how much they looove to be "t*rtured" by women. So I am curious to see if there is any man willing to admit here that he likes to, not extreme tickle (I find it unnecessary, only continuous genuine laughter interests me), but to robustly tickle ladies upperbody? Are there ladies willing to admit that they love to be firmly upperbody tickled by M or F?

My session was about 20 mns of actual tickling after the breaks. Although I moslty alternate between 3s and 5s, one of my most fun moves is when I hit one particularly ticklish spot on the lower torso, I poke that spot for about 10s to silent laughter. Or to poke and hold inside the armpit hollow. Hopefully this is not rated-R. 😎

 

[Maneo]

In the domain of fetishes, or just intimate behavior in general, I think there is nothing that I would call “ weird.” One person’s weird is another person’s normal.

While my preference is to tickle a woman’s feet, if she is extremely ticklish on her upper body, that will be my focus.

The degree to which I enjoy tickling a partner may be considered weird by some and mild by others. I could care less what others think or how much my desires are shared by them. I’m only interested in how my tickle consensual partner and I are in sync.

 

[luvgirlsfeet]

I love to tickle. I’m more playful than torturous. If the person I’m tickling wants to be tied up that’s fine as for me being tied up no thanks

 

[U.N.Owen]

Um, no. There's nothing even slightly weird in what you describe. It just sounds like fun.

 

[WickedTouch]

Thread 'do most ppl here find it weird for a girl to be an extreme ler?'

May 4, 2024

cause I get loadsa DMs from ppl saying they are shocked I’m a ler and trying to force me to rp with them and tell them what I would do (and I dont rp or act like a slave to guys demanding I do it)

but anyway, I always thought it was normal to be a ler as a female 😂

• natscott6282
• Replies: 137
• Forum: Tickling Discussion

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In the spirit of equality I was inspired by the above thread by Natscott (I like how real and matter of fact she is). I just had a tickling session that was 80% upperbody and 20% feet and legs (M/F). I learned from that discussion that it is perfectly okay for a lady to extreme tickle men to their limits (or was it beyond?). In fact a few men giddily volunteered how much they looove to be "t*rtured" by women. So I am curious to see if there is any man willing to admit here that he likes to, not extreme tickle (I find it unnecessary, only continuous genuine laughter interests me), but to robustly tickle ladies upperbody? Are there ladies willing to admit that they love to be firmly upperbody tickled by M or F?

My session was about 20 mns of actual tickling after the breaks. Although I moslty alternate between 3s and 5s, one of my most fun moves is when I hit one particularly ticklish spot on the lower torso, I poke that spot for about 10s to silent laughter. Or to poke and hold inside the armpit hollow. Hopefully this is not rated-R. 😎

Weird essentially means strange, unusual, or unnatural. I would never say liking it is unnatural, but it is unusual, and maybe a little strange in the context of the whole population. It is not, however unusual within the tickling community. I love giving and receiving it, as does my wife. I’ll say it’s just more important to be aware of the individual’s preference and their personal tickle-pain threshold. Some people can’t be tickled this way unless there’s careful attention to pressure, some people want a lot of pressure, and some only ever want light tickling. Generally speaking, people are more likely to bruise this way (even with moderate pressure), and women much more so. That can make it uninteresting to some as well. There’s a whole spectrum of interests in and out of the tickling community, and in general, as long as you’re working within the bounds of safe, sane, and enthusiastic consent, you can be as weird or wild as you like.

 

[eddyderf]

Weird essentially means strange, unusual, or unnatural. I would never say liking it is unnatural, but it is unusual, and maybe a little strange in the context of the whole population. It is not, however unusual within the tickling community. I love giving and receiving it, as does my wife. I’ll say it’s just more important to be aware of the individual’s preference and their personal tickle-pain threshold. Some people can’t be tickled this way unless there’s careful attention to pressure, some people want a lot of pressure, and some only ever want light tickling. Generally speaking, people are more likely to bruise this way (even with moderate pressure), and women much more so. That can make it uninteresting to some as well. There’s a whole spectrum of interests in and out of the tickling community, and in general, as long as you’re working within the bounds of safe, sane, and enthusiastic consent, you can be as weird or wild as you like.

Respectfully that's not my experience. Poking, wiggling, and kneading on actual ticklish spots using gentle but focused pressure (with enough breaks and safewords) doesn't bruise anybody. It is using unnatural flat fingers technique while pressing down hard to prevent the lee from bursting into beautiful laugher (among other pretend tickling techniques commonly used out there) that is more likely to bruise a lady's delicate body.
Also mentally, tickling when done with appropriate restraint (especially on moderately ticklish ones) is a lot more dignifying to the ladies than say belly punching, anal sex, whipping and shocking, and there is no shortage of models in those fetishes. I fear that the current generation of men is being taught to worship/massaging women's body instead of actual gentle tickling with beautiful laughter (as opposed to giggles). It's quite unfortunate really.

 

[Bellydancer-Becca]

Upper body/belly and armpit tickling is so underrated. I adore it.

 

[pocketblondie]

I love being tickled on my upperbody !!! it’s such an incredible feeling

 

[WickedTouch]

Respectfully that's not my experience. Poking, wiggling, and kneading on actual ticklish spots using gentle but focused pressure (with enough breaks and safewords) doesn't bruise anybody. It is using unnatural flat fingers technique while pressing down hard to prevent the lee from bursting into beautiful laugher (among other pretend tickling techniques commonly used out there) that is more likely to bruise a lady's delicate body.

No problem—I was responding to your descriptor of “firmly,” which both means different things to different people, and affects different people at the different levels of firmness. Gentle but firm pressure will absolutely bruise some people, my wife included. Others, you could press really hard and it wouldn’t. Some of the people we’ve met with initially felt really bad about her bruising easily despite them not tickling her with much pressure, but were okay with it after her reassurance and enthusiasm. I’ve encountered a few people like this. All I’m saying is that some people bruise really easily, some of which are fine with that and others only prefer the lightest touches to avoid it. Neither is wrong.

Also mentally, tickling when done with appropriate restraint (especially on moderately ticklish ones) is a lot more dignifying to the ladies than say belly punching, anal sex, whipping and shocking, and there is no shortage of models in those fetishes. I fear that the current generation of men is being taught to worship/massaging women's body instead of actual gentle tickling with beautiful laughter (as opposed to giggles). It's quite unfortunate really.

Those really aren’t my kind of thing either, but there’s a legion of women that love it. I understand that you prefer gentle forms of kink engagement (and really, from my perspective I do to), but there’s plenty of women (and men) that enjoy more extreme things in very healthy ways. Within the context of consensual kink, those activities are driven by mutual desire (otherwise, it's just abuse).

To refactor my answer to your question, yes, plenty of women do enjoy firmer upper body tickling at levels all along the spectrum of firmness.

 

[eddyderf]

@WickedTouch - Understood.

 

[eddyderf]

Upper body/belly and armpit tickling is so underrated. I adore it.

I love being tickled on my upperbody !!! it’s such an incredible feeling

Thank you for sharing. Do either of you only like it playful or do you also enjoy strong tickling?
I will also note that not a single male came forward here when in the other thread they tripped over to admit how much they enjoy to be tickled by the other sex. Equality only goes one way? Lol

 

[WickedTouch]

I will also note that not a single male came forward here when in the other thread they tripped over to admit how much they enjoy to be tickled by the other sex. Equality only goes one way? Lol

I must be confused about what you were looking for. I am male and addressed the topic and questions of this thread, as did a few other males. Was there something specific you were wanting to know that was left unanswered?

 

[yinzer]

I will also note that not a single male came forward here when in the other thread they tripped over to admit how much they enjoy to be tickled by the other sex. Equality only goes one way? Lol

I must be confused about what you were looking for. I am male and addressed the topic and questions of this thread, as did a few other males. Was there something specific you were wanting to know that was left unanswered?

I'm also confused what is meant by this, @eddyderf ?

 

[tangledgirl]

Under my arms is my favourite place to my tickled. And it turns me on for some reason lol. I’m so super ticklish there. I think it would also be my favourite place to tickle another woman.

 

[eddyderf]

I must be confused about what you were looking for. I am male and addressed the topic and questions of this thread, as did a few other males. Was there something specific you were wanting to know that was left unanswered?

@WickedTouch @yinzer

Sure. The essence of the OP is that I personally like @natscott6282 tone and style. She prefers upper body tickles, so do I. She loves to tickle hard (firm is good enough for me) and more to the point she is direct and unapologetic about it. I like that too. No excessive qualifiers (I like feet too but...). Words like tickled relentless, to a maximum, to very core of being, and so on. And her thread linked in the OP reminded me that people actually like that kind of direct, honest talk, AS LONG AS MEN ARE ON THE RECEIVING END.
Over the years I found it amusing that when it's the other way around, then there are strong reminders about the safety of the model, boundaries, aftercare, all the good stuff. Lol. All fair of course, but very little of that in the linked thread. That's what inspired me to start this thread just to test my hypothesis a bit, and so far my perception seems accurate. You won't find proportionally many posts describing strong, extreme, upperbody tickling when a lady is on a receiving end. You just won't, at least not without all kinds of qualifiers or apologies.

 

[eddyderf]

Why does it matter? Well because one will see the same pattern in tickling videos. Take TickleAbuse. I am not into F/M tickling at all but I looked for available videos. The pattern was crystal clear. The lady would typically tickle her male victim real good. Great. No belt to protect his midsection, although you would think it necessary since men are stronger and struggle against the restraints harder. The most ruthless tickling videos I have ever seen are all F/M (think Sasha Foxxx tickling Tommy, and the video was pulled eons ago from the TA clips site). But when it was the turn of the guy to tickle back, they would barely graze the girls ticklish spots on the upper body, as if they didn't know how to tickle. AND TA would typically make sure there was a belt covering the girl's lower torso. One decade down the road, you can see what's produced nowadays when it comes to upper body tickling (feet and legs usually are tickled well).

Hopefully I am not tickling any sensibilities by saying all this. I've always sensed people are uncomfortable pointing all that, but it is obvious to me. I am very comfortable as a lurker, so if am going to speak up I may as well not beat around the bush. I do love the community very much.

 

[yinzer]

@WickedTouch @yinzer

Sure. The essence of the OP is that I personally like @natscott6282 tone and style. She prefers upper body tickles, so do I. She loves to tickle hard (firm is good enough for me) and more to the point she is direct and unapologetic about it. I like that too. No excessive qualifiers (I like feet too but...). Words like tickled relentless, to a maximum, to very core of being, and so on. And her thread linked in the OP reminded me that people actually like that kind of direct, honest talk, AS LONG AS MEN ARE ON THE RECEIVING END.
Over the years I found it amusing that when it's the other way around, then there are strong reminders about the safety of the model, boundaries, aftercare, all the good stuff. Lol. All fair of course, but very little of that in the linked thread. That's what inspired me to start this thread just to test my hypothesis a bit, and so far my perception seems accurate. You won't find proportionally many posts describing strong, extreme, upperbody tickling when a lady is on a receiving end. You just won't, at least not without all kinds of qualifiers or apologies.

I could be completely wrong, but if I were to guess, I'd think more women prefer to be 'lees than 'lers, and more men prefer to be 'lers than 'lees. The thing is, I'm admittedly basing this off of stereotypes and my own intuition. When I look at the forums and consider the interactions I've had here, I definitely have my doubts about this, but I continue to tenuously hold onto this assumption. That's why when I posted a comment on Nat's thread you're referencing, my thoughts were, yeah, it does seem weird to me, but only because of my preconceived assumptions that might be way off in reality. The way I read her 'extreme 'ler' title, I thought she meant extreme in that she is only a 'ler and never a 'lee, which I'm also 'extreme' in that way. Her being 100% 'ler as a woman does seem at least somewhat unusual to me, but I don't mean it in a bad way, just that I'd think she'd be in the minority of women with that. For that matter, I consider everything in the tickling world weird to the majority of people, and that's fine with me. She probably meant it the way you read it tho, meaning her tickling style being extreme, or possibly she meant both?

 

[WickedTouch]

@WickedTouch @yinzer

Sure. The essence of the OP is that I personally like @natscott6282 tone and style. She prefers upper body tickles, so do I. She loves to tickle hard (firm is good enough for me) and more to the point she is direct and unapologetic about it. I like that too. No excessive qualifiers (I like feet too but...). Words like tickled relentless, to a maximum, to very core of being, and so on. And her thread linked in the OP reminded me that people actually like that kind of direct, honest talk, AS LONG AS MEN ARE ON THE RECEIVING END.
Over the years I found it amusing that when it's the other way around, then there are strong reminders about the safety of the model, boundaries, aftercare, all the good stuff. Lol. All fair of course, but very little of that in the linked thread. That's what inspired me to start this thread just to test my hypothesis a bit, and so far my perception seems accurate. You won't find proportionally many posts describing strong, extreme, upperbody tickling when a lady is on a receiving end. You just won't, at least not without all kinds of qualifiers or apologies.

I think I better understand what you meant now, though I somewhat disagree with the assertion. I was initially confused because your previous message really gave me the impression that you felt no males had answered the questions in your OP.

I know I have read many messages on this forum that sound very much like they match what you describe. I'll also say that I don't think there are as many as there used to be (without the qualifiers you mentioned). I don't think there's anything wrong with that, and I feel certain it is not due to a declining interest. Here are some reasons I think this has happened, as well as some reasons your story might be incomplete:

• Women lers, especially those who lean to the extreme end, are rare in comparison to the number of extreme male lers. How rare is not known, but it is a palpable reality.
• How people express their desires and interests in subcommunities online is not necessarily representative of how many people in the whole community actually play or wish to play. A lot of men play in that extreme way, but also don't only lean into those aspects online without qualifiers because they do not want to be misperceived as someone who does not have the interest of potential play partners in mind. For extreme play, men can much more easily come off as a potential threat than a good time if extra care is not taken to communicate their intentions.
• While the TMF is a part of the tickling community, it is a much smaller representation of it than it used to be. I see much more references to extreme and intense play on tickling subreddits and discord these days.
• I can't speak much for videos, and I don't consume them much, but I can say there are videos that show very extreme m/f upperbody tickling. Do most? Definitely not. But again, videos are not necessarily representative of the spectrum of how people in the community actually play. Producers have things to consider like professional liabilities, hopefully re-bookable models, and many models who are more looking to get paid and less trying to satisfy their own extreme tickling fetish. They have to work with what they've got and what makes good business sense.
• Many women lees enjoy extreme upperbody tickling by males and write about it all the time on many platforms. You may not hear about the majority of the accounts from the males involved, but often the lees will share their story.
• A primary source example is that I tickled my wife's upperbody to the extreme last night to the point she was breathless with hard laughter and thrashing uncontrollably. When I was done, she was sweaty and gasping with giggles.I did it, I often do it, and I'll do it again. I enjoyed it and she did to. I know several other couples that are the same way. This is not especially uncommon in my experience.

 

[SirTristran]

Its not uncommon for a ler to have a preference but I always make every effort to diversify my approach.

Too many lers just sit on feet for example to satisfy their own fetish. I make it a point of making my seshes as much about the lee as it is myself.