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Obesity in America

mabus

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Obesity in America:
The growing prevalence of obesity in the United States represents a significant health threat to millions of Americans, federal health officials say.

Obesity rose 6 percent nationally between 1998 and 1999, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). The increase affected all regions of the country and all demographic groups.

"The continuing epidemic of obesity is a critical public health concern," Jeffrey Koplan, M.D., director of the CDC, said in a letter to the editor published in the October 4 issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association. "As a nation, we need to respond as vigorously to this epidemic as we do to an infectious disease epidemic."

Since 1991, obesity among adults has increased by nearly 60 percent nationally. Whites — with a 7 percent increase — had the largest increase in obesity rates between 1998 and 1999, according to the CDC.

Obesity is defined as having a body mass index (BMI) of 30 or higher. A BMI of 30, in most cases, means that an individual is about 30 pounds over their ideal weight.

Dr. Koplan says that national efforts to encourage physical activity and better nutrition are needed. Moreover, additional research is warranted to identify educational, behavioral and environmental strategies to control and prevent obesity.

Physical inactivity and being overweight account for more than 300,000 premature deaths annually in the U.S., second only to tobacco-related deaths.

"As obesity rates continue to grow at epidemic proportions in this country, the net effect will be dramatic increases in related chronic health conditions such as diabetes and cardiovascular disease," says Dr. Koplan.

Recent CDC reports indicate that diabetes increased by 33 percent among American adults during the 1990s, reflecting a surge in obesity during the same period.

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I believe this whole "Battle of the Bulge" in America has gotten insane. It really has. The problem is this: the only way to effectively lose weight and keep it off is diet and exercise that is stuck with for a long time.

The problem is, no one wants to do this! It's hard, and since America is a self obsessed, victimized, "no responsibility on us" culture, obesity is out of control. Congress, THE CONGRESS! had to pass legislation protecting restaurants from fat lawsuits! Mention this 10, 20 years ago, and you would have been laughed at. The diet industry is a multi-billion dollar a year industry, when it shouldn't even exist at all. Changing your diet is free, hell, you save money. Exercise is free, how much does it cost to take a walk, or do a push up?

People in Africa and South America and poor nations must look at fat Americans, and see how they cry because they can't stop eating, and go crazy. No wonder the whole world hates us! You got some kid in Africa who hasn't eaten a piece of meat in a month, who is REALLY suffering, looking over at some fat American kid who is actually depressed because he can't fit in a chair because he has so much to eat. It boggles the mind.

Every diet commercial out there basically says, "buy this diet pill, you will lose weight", and then there's a disclaimer saying you must diet and exercise to actually lose the weight. Hell, just buy a tic tac, it would have the same effect as the diet pill.
These diet companies make billions feeding off the MTV generation attitude of "I want it fast, NOW!"

I'm just ... mind boggled, utterly confused, can't, unable to understand a person who is morbidly obese, who gives their sob story, then lets off what they eat for one meal : "I eat 7 pancakes, 5 sausages, 10 biscuits, 3 cups of chocolate milk, etc." Then for lunch...

I'm asking - How can you even AFFORD all that food? What kind of a job do you have, and where can I get a job like that? Hell, why don't you just NOT EAT THAT MUCH FOOD? And why, God, would a parent feed their child that much? Usually it's some parent who is feeding their kid that much food, since the kid or adult can't even leave their bedroom. Just walk in with a small, low calorie meal. It's not like the guy or girl is going to get up and chase you down, they can't even move!

I know people who have failed to lose weight, and people who have succeeded. The people who succeeded changed their diet, started exercising, kept up with it, lost a lot of weight, and continued to diet and exercise. Those who failed started some weird ass diet, they didn't exercise, (they had a list of excuses not to) and quickly gave up. Hell, just move around normally and you'll lose weight. You notice how the thin people park all the way in the back of the parking lot, and take the stairs, and always get up and get whatever they need themselves? The overweight ones will drive around for 20 minutes looking for the closest parking space, take the elevator up one floor, and ask other people to go get them whatever, because they won't bother getting up and doing it themselves.

The attitudes are what's really different. I used to know guys who lifted weights. They worked out every day, or every other day. When they'd miss ONE work out, they talk about how they were just not on the ball. One guy got sick for a week, ONE WEEK, and he was complaining how totally out of shape he was.

Overweight people will brag about exercise they did years ago! I knew one guy who spend a few days one summer riding his bike around. He spent two summers after that bragging about his leg muscles from that one summer. I knew a girl who bragged about her thigh muscles from ballet classes - when she was a kid! If that were the case, I'd lift weights for a month, and never have to lift again for the rest of my life, and I'd always be in shape.

This is frustrating because the rest of us are going to have to foot the bill for this problem. Our food prices will rise, insurance will go up.

Children now are suffering from high blood pressure. Diabetes is on the rise. I doubt this bubble will burst, because people will always look for soemone else to blame.
 
Mabus;

I'm trying to understand the purpose of this rant. If you're not overweight, be happy about it and stop complaining. If you're like me who is what the country considers Morbidly Obese, either do something about it, or stop whining!

As far as what Americans are paying for these days, look at the war! I'd rather pay every cent of my taxes for an American citizen to lose weight and get healthy, than to pay billions to drop bombs and shoot innocent people in a foreign country. As far as insurance premiums are concerned, insurance is a big racket and if everyone in America got to the unrealistic weight on those weight tables, they'd just raise the prices with some other excuse. We have compassion for alcoholics and drug addicts in this country, but no love at all for large folks! We never have to drink or drug, but everyone has to eat and that makes food addictions (which is the problem, by the way)harder to overcome.

I do agree with you regarding the fast food issue. We are responsible for what we stick in our mouths. I think it's about time the fast food industry that uses sugar and chemicals to hook people on their products take some responsibility. However, it's like the cigarette industry, lawsuits that are for something you've been previously warned about (side of the cigarette pack surgeon general) are frivolous at best, and obnoxious and costly at worst. You're right, we should stop blaming others for our problems.

There is not an intelligent reason how I or anyone else in my position has gotten into trouble. Depression comes first to mind along with lousy metabolism. It's as if you wake up one day and there's another 30lbs on the scale. And if you do have health problems, exercise can be a problem. No excuses, simply facts.

As opposed to complaining, how about being part of the solution? How about taking an obese person under your wing and helping them lose weight without taking any more of their dignity away than society already has. How about encouraging someone to help themselves as opposed to finding fat people as disgusting blobs undeserving of your respect? How about if you're not going to be part of the solution, just keeping your commentary to yourself?

I take full responsibility for my situation and am struggling my way out of it. So I'm not one of the slobs you describe, and neither are the millions of people who are in my mess.

This is kis123 and I am responsible for this message.
 
I was just gonna say... the fat lawsuits are so stupid. It just gives these companies more excuses to give smaller portions of food at restaurants and grocery stores. Being underweight myself, I suppose I'm both lucky and statistically rare....
 
Great Britain and Germany have the same discussions going on right now. Medicare costs are rising, and heart problems have become mortality hazard number 1 in our countries.

I'm overweight myself. Not meant as an excuse but as an explanation: I used to eat 4 times as much as ordinary persons and still was slightly underweight, due to a thyroid gland malfunction. One day, those glands had to be removed because they constricted my windpipe, and all the trouble started: My appetite was the same as before, but suddenly I gained weight like crazy. I tried about 30 different diets (all under medical supervision), but then the jojo effect drove my wieght up even more.

Now, since about 10 years, I have stopped dieting. A therapist helped me to accept myself as I am, which is fat, to say it plain and simple. I haven lost my overweight, but I haven't gained weight either since then. By now, I eat much less (but more food-conscious) than the average person of my age.

Many weight problems are caused by psychological problems. Food addictions, eating because of frustration, bulimy and so on outweighs obesity due to thoughtless food consumption by now. Much of the psychological problems are caused by a lack of acceptance in our society. If a slim waist becomes a measure for your value in society, self-acceptance gets very difficult. Happy people won't get eating problems, but fat people are simply not allowed to be happy, according to public opinion.

Sometimes, I wish I lived in Asia. In Thailand, girls always stroked over my belly, because touching Buddha's belly is considered to bring luck... 😛
 
as someone who has been on and off of "diets" alot of my life and by these standards considered overweight possibly obese the word diet is all wrong and will never truly succeed. The correct idea is a lifestyle change. Change the way you eat but do it sensibly, don't look for instantaneous gratification, accept something rational and do able. Increase your activity a little each day and week, think of little ways you can add some in. Try to make smart food choices and think about the portions you eat, portions are a big part of the problem not necessarily cutting fat carbs, etc. Eat sensibly and most of all do it for health, do it for yourself, do it to feel good.


PS...all of you who have met me know thats not my body on this pic!! LOL, my face but not the bod!!
 
Ah, lifestyle changes, that's what I am trying to do.

I am fat as hell. I started walking and stuff summer of last year. Before that, I couldn't walk for like 5 minutes without my back hurting. Now I can walk for hours without any real trouble, besides sweating like crazy, which is annoying as hell.

I drink nothing but water now, except for every now and then, I might have juice or milk or something.

Trying not to eat as much meat, and more vegetables and stuff, because I learned stuff in school about how the meats are processed and stuff, and how the animals are treated, and it kinda makes me sick. Not to mention there are pesticide residues on like everything, and like 55% percent of all pesticides and stuff is on meat.

Thinking back to how I used to live, doing absolutely nothing all the time, getting fatter and fatter. Most of the time, all I did was eat and sleep. Blahhhh, I am so glad I changed from that. I probably would've kept that up, though, if it wasn't for spending some time talking to a certain someone from here... will this person know who I mean? 😀

Still, weight is coming off VERY slowly... I think I lost about 10-20 pounds, though I don't think I look any different really. Thinking of going to a gym and doing cardio and stuff.

I agree, way too many people are becoming overweight. Getting too lazy these days, it seems. Though, could be other reasons also. I was just lazy, and I regret not starting to excersize and stuff earlier.

Well, this may be a pointless post, but I was bored and couldn't find anything else I felt like posting on, so there ya go.
 
Drago69 said:
Ah, lifestyle changes, that's what I am trying to do.

I am fat as hell. I started walking and stuff summer of last year. Before that, I couldn't walk for like 5 minutes without my back hurting. Now I can walk for hours without any real trouble, besides sweating like crazy, which is annoying as hell.

I drink nothing but water now, except for every now and then, I might have juice or milk or something.

Trying not to eat as much meat, and more vegetables and stuff, because I learned stuff in school about how the meats are processed and stuff, and how the animals are treated, and it kinda makes me sick. Not to mention there are pesticide residues on like everything, and like 55% percent of all pesticides and stuff is on meat.

Thinking back to how I used to live, doing absolutely nothing all the time, getting fatter and fatter. Most of the time, all I did was eat and sleep. Blahhhh, I am so glad I changed from that. I probably would've kept that up, though, if it wasn't for spending some time talking to a certain someone from here... will this person know who I mean? 😀

Still, weight is coming off VERY slowly... I think I lost about 10-20 pounds, though I don't think I look any different really. Thinking of going to a gym and doing cardio and stuff.

I agree, way too many people are becoming overweight. Getting too lazy these days, it seems. Though, could be other reasons also. I was just lazy, and I regret not starting to excersize and stuff earlier.

Well, this may be a pointless post, but I was bored and couldn't find anything else I felt like posting on, so there ya go.

Your post is by no means pointless. I'm slowly learning to correct many years of poor eating habits and stinking thinking to get on track. I've always been big and only have gotten bigger over the years. If I ever expect to have any type of a productive future, I have to take the effort to make some serious changes. It hasn't been easy at all, but it will get better over time.
 
For those of you who watch what you eat...

What Really Kills You
Here's the final word on nutrition and health. It's a relief to know the truth after all those conflicting medical studies.

1. The Japanese eat very little fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than the British or Americans.

2. The Mexicans eat a lot of fat and also suffer fewer heart attacks than the British or Americans.

3. The Japanese drink very little red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks than the British or Americans.

4. The Italians drink large amounts of red wine and also suffer fewer heart attacks than the British or Americans.

5. The Germans drink a lot of beer and eat lots of sausages and fats and suffer fewer heart attacks than the British or Americans.

CONCLUSION: Eat and drink what you like. Speaking English is apparently what kills you.

Mimi 😀
 
Mimi;

I knew you were my type of girl!!😀 😉 😛 I keep telling people unless you grow the food yourself, you don't know what's been allowed by FDA and not to be so secure in what you're eating.

Why do you have so many people having problems? It can't be irresponsibility on everyone's part, as some would like you to buy into. In the 60s and 70s, we didn't have the technology and knowledge we have now, but we are fatter than ever. And, we didn't have the knowledge we have now. We ate pretty much the way we could afford to. Instead of studies that totally waste the taxpayers money, how about a study of what fast food companies are putting in the food that make it addictive?

My cousin worked in a McDonalds and she told me that they used sugar and chemicals in the food to make the customers come back. Similar to how cigarette companies use crack (trace amounts, of course) to keep smokers hooked and coming back. They don't mind a multibillion lawsuit when they can keep current customers hooked and bank on hooked customers to come in the future.

Mabus, in answer to your question of how can we afford to eat the way we do, it is very simple. It is very easy to afford to eat poorly. We can buy soda pop for 25-50 cents. We can buy potato chips for 25cents. We can buy candy for less than a dollar. The high-carb items are always the cheapest. If you try to eat healthy, you'll pay for it through the nose. It's real cheap to be fat in this society. If it was made more economical to eat healthy, some will try it and may win the battle with the bulge that much sooner.
 
OK, I ran across this thread after having a few beers so forgive me if I come across sounding like an idiot but there's a few points I want to make.

Forget the fast-food conspiracy crap, that's excapism.

One does not become morbidly obese in months, it takes years.

We all have our daily routines that we follow.. daily...

We've been following that daily routine for years because we like it.

We don't want to change that daily routine because we're lazy.

Guess what ? Keep following that same daily routine and you'll only get heavier.

Simple physics.

Get a new daily routine.
 
I, for one, DO NOT believe in the BMI. If we were to use the BMI as a standard of where we should be, a person who is 6'5", like myself, should be between the weight of 168-210. To me that is too skinny. My doctor, at a recent check up, told me I should be between 240-250 judging by my frame. I weigh about 265 and caluculating my BMI would put me in the obese category. I don't consider myself obese, I am very muscular from weight lifting though I have a beer gut. I have lost almost 40 pounds over the past couple of years and the way I did it was getting more excercise, and, more important, not eating late at night. The time of the day of when you eat is just as much of a factor as the food choices you make. When you eat and go right to bed, you are as inactive as you are going to be so you don't burn as much as when you are more active during the day.
 
Ah yeah. I heard that eating after like 7pm isn't good, 'cause your body starts to shut down or something around that time, so you can't burn fat much at all. So I don't do that anymore.
 
TKpervert said:
OK, I ran across this thread after having a few beers so forgive me if I come across sounding like an idiot but there's a few points I want to make.

Forget the fast-food conspiracy crap, that's excapism.

One does not become morbidly obese in months, it takes years.

We all have our daily routines that we follow.. daily...

We've been following that daily routine for years because we like it.

We don't want to change that daily routine because we're lazy.

Guess what ? Keep following that same daily routine and you'll only get heavier.

Simple physics.

Get a new daily routine.

I can empathize with your simplicity of solving the problems of the fat universe. I don't think the people replying to this thread are trying to escape anything. I thought I agreed with not blaming fast food for my plight. I can eat anywhere from my home to a McDonald's. The choice is mine to make, and it's a rare choice to go to a fast food restaurant of any kind because even the salads can be unhealthy.

I AM NOT A LAZY PERSON BY ANY MEANS!! Raising two children, one who is multi-handicapped, does not afford me the luxury of laziness. That is the biggest load of crap society has been fed about obese people. Were fat because we're lazy slobs, right? Some of the most active people I know are obese because no one is around to do anything for them. If they don't do it, it won't get done. Obese people are the most invisible people when it comes to being noticed or heard. That is unless someone needs a joke to make, then they see the fat person having difficulty in the street. Not to be of any assistance, of course, but to point and mock like a clown. So do me a favor and not refer to me as lazy again. You don't know me that well. Sometimes my day begins at 6am and doesn't end until 9 or 10pm. If I were lazy, could I make it through a day that hectic and demanding? I certainly don't think so.

Yes, something needs to change. Yes, I could definitely could make some better choices regarding eating habits and exercise. No one is arguing about that. But I put up with enough stereotypes as it is by being an African-American female. I don't need the "fat" prejudice too.:sowrong:
 
Hmmm... well, some fat people became obese due to negligence (aka - a sedentary lifestyle). The obese people that I can sympathize with are the ones with thyroid problems. A chemical imbalance is mostly beyond an individual's control. However, a non-active lifestyle is something you can change. There are plenty of overweight people in this country, but being obese takes it a step further. In most cases, being 30 pounds overweight is due to a lifestyle decision. Being overweight by less than that is more subtle and easier to blame on metabolism.
 
I've been up and down and down and up the scales over the years. When I found out my biggest problem, things improved drastically. I was a veyr slim kid, but when my body started to mature (read as hormones kicking in) I began to gain weight. Twenty years later, at the age of 30 I found out why. I had 3, yes, count 'em THREE ovaries. for those not up on their anatomy, women are supposed to have only two! LOL To put my situation simply, due to the elevated hormones in my system, my body acted like it was pregnant all the time, storing every bit of fat I took in. I never had a big appetite, so not eating a lot of calories, my body reacted much like it was pregnant and needed to store every molecule for later use. And so, for years...I gained. I tried every diet and exercise progam I could find.

At the lovely age of thirty, and "thanks" to some abnormal cells in the pathology from a D&C, among OTHER factors, I underwent a radical hysterectomy where my extra ovary was found. Since that surgery, I have steadily lost weight. Unfortunately, depression and anxiety combined to form really bad eating habits in the few years prior to this so those are still being broken now.

The first person who says that someone is overweight and it's something that they could change if they really wanted to should take a breather before opening their mouth. People drink alcohol, smoke pot, and have promiscuous sex lives to feel good and forget life for a while. Some people eat for that same reason. The only difference? Eating creates a VISIBLE difference where the others do not. They all have side effects though...and all result in cost to society.

So, go have a few drinks, smoke your weed, have a tickle affair, do what ever makes YOU feel good. At least you only have your emotional baggage to carry. Sometimes that can weigh more than any scale can measure.

Jo
 
JoBelle, I believe there is a mistake in your "signature." Shouldn't it say, "Do not cry out"? By the way, what is a D&C?
 
Thanks Mr. You're right, and I made the change. Stumped my own thought with that typo~! 😉

To answer your question and then let things get back on topic.

"Dilation and Curettage (D and C) is a common surgical operation. It is often used to diagnose or treat abnormal bleeding from the uterus. It can also provide important information about whether a woman has cancer of the uterus. Dilation means stretching the opening of the cervix with special instruments to make it wider. Once the opening of the cervix is enlarged, another instrument is inserted into the uterus to loosen and remove the lining of the uterus. This is called curettage. "
 
Christ... that sounds like something that Jack the Ripper would enjoy... sorry to hear you had to go through that....
 
MrMacphisto said:
Christ... that sounds like something that Jack the Ripper would enjoy... sorry to hear you had to go through that....

Eek...you're right...it is pretty uncomfortable. It sreved a good purpose though. I'm alive now! Compared to the other things I've gone through, that was like laying in a hammock in a tropical breeze.

The point I was making with that bit of my history is that although it's very easy to rant about problems, it would do well toward solving them to understand that they come about in a variety of ways. Many times, the problems such as weight (via food addiction, emotional eating, laziness what-have-you), alcoholism (We have an institution with the variety of 12-step programs!!!), emotional weaknesses (how many people are in therapy nowadays?), you name it...these can pale in comparison to other things. It's not until it gets out of control that folks realize it and then it's a retraining to get your life back.

Hell, I have no doubt that if I had the active life of my farmer-ancestors that I would be more fit as society as a whole would be. But...I'd also be dead because the same technology that makes us lazy....saved my life. All in all, if it weren't obesity, it WOULD be something else. You can bet on that.

So, as I continue to shrink..hehe...I'll have to be on guard that I don't develope some new horror to take the place of my big butt! 😀

Jo
 
I think the problem is that parents use the TV as a babysitter, and since everything has to be fast, convienet, and easy they go to fast food more often than not. And the kids get used to fast food, maybe dont develope any cooking skills, so when they move out, all they know is to go to the corner and get a burger or whatever.


 
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