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I feel like I'm in high school.

LOL

I hear ya Marquis...

Point is that all of the hewer folks posting here think it is a good idea....only ones against have been around a while...I still cant figure that out...

I am for.....it is a good idea...
 
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Jen, I agree that such rumors need to be quashed, as I too believe they are untrue. But I'm convinced that herding the noobies into their own little area will perpetuate that rumor rather than dispel it.


Drew,
My point was that when the new folks introduced themselves, 10:1 it would be the cliquish snobs that would be the first to greet and welcome them to the forum.
That's just the kind of people we are.

Jen
 
I think all of the points have been made for both sides and it is up to the administrators and mods to make the final decision...

Quite a few delurkers have come forward in just the last few days...it is a good thing to see...take the time to say hi....:veryhappy
 
:bump:

Well, now that the forum is created, what are everyone's thoughts on it? And should the veteran members be allowed to repost their intros, to help kick-start the place? Maybe that would be a cool idea... =)
 
TMF Hello Forum (1 viewing)

That pretty much says it all, doesn't it?
 
No Drew it doesnt...many forums such has humor have no one viewing most of the day...

Means nothing at all...you dont have to participate there if you dont wish to, but dont put down the people who do...
In fact we should rethink the sporst forum as no one is there at this hour...ROFLMAO.....

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I think there is a real problem lately with a select few of relatively new members themselves "pontificating" how things should be around here, and that generally gets great attention because they are female and loved by the established clique - mods included.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing anyone here, but it is painfully obvious if you take a minute to stand back and "listen" to the radio.

Good God people, it's a forum. As I said once before in this thread, I think what makes us unique here is the fact "newbies" can mesh in with the others right off the bat in the tickling discussion forum. I know I won't go out of my way to check out the newbie forum. Please.....

As far as I'm concerned, it's just a concerted effort by the pontificators to clear up some of their unwanted clutter so that it doesn't get in the way of their own regular routine.

Just my two cents, I could be entirely wrong.... but I know how I feel about it.

Peace
 
Time will tell, no? It's not an attack, but what I think is a very warranted observation.
 
There is nothing warranted about prescribing to the rumor of cliques and newbies running the forum...I find it a very distasteful remark and you have known me for some time...I have never seen groups on this forum who shun others and do not let people join in to any thread silly or otherwise....

That is what cliques do.....to say the mods are a clique is ridiculous....their opinions on issues vary as much as any other member....believe me I know this having been a mod at one time....

It is far from a clique......(nasty word that)....
 
This is ridiculous. If you never enter a part of the forum, then what harm does it do to you? There is a personals section of this forum I never ever enter, but if two people go in there and get something out of it then I'm glad it's there. It is serving it's purpose. I don't use it, won't use it, don't have a need for it, but it is not affecting me one damn bit that it is there and available for others to use.

Every single other forum that I'm a part of (minus 1) has an "introduce yourself" section. Forums are made up of people. No people, no forum. Probably most of the users are formerly lurkers at one time no matter how brief. If this section brings out new people then why the hell not have it there? If someone does not like it, or does not like to welcome new people, then don't go inside. Let it sit there and the rest of us will go make new users feel comfortable. We'll be the ones to show that there are cool people here and they are amongst friends. If you don't understand it's purpose or haven't seen one before, take a step back and watch it unfold.

That welcome from a familiar name or anyone at all is heartwarming experience. And for some people it's what they need to come out of their shell. It's very easy for a post to fall into the basement very quickly without responses. On other forums I don't always greet every new person, because it can be hard to keep up if you don't sign in for a couple of days, but it always seems like there are groups of people welcoming others, alternating sometimes like in shifts. As long as there is a friendly hello back to the new poster, it's a success.

As for the clique thing, it's getting soooooo fucking old. I swear I didn't hear it this much in high school even. This isn't specifically aimed at anyone in this thread, just to the people saying it over and over lately. People with the clique problems, what is your specific problem? Is it that a group of people are EXCLUDING you and Rudolph from playing any reindeer games?

This is not high school. Grow the fuck up. Who is excluding you? Are they specifically keeping you from doing something? Or is it YOUR perception that they are? Or are they just not being as nice to you as they are to others? Again, we're adults, grow up. If you think you're being shunned, send the person a pm and ask if your concerns are warranted. Don't go running around saying it out loud hoping someone will notice. It's like a little girl sitting by a trash can crying out loud, hoping someone will notice, saying "boy I sure wish people would like me/let me play with them". Talk to the person you think is excluding you from something.

I'm wondering if people know what a clique is or if they are just using the word. A clique by definition has to be exclusive, not allowing others. There are very close groups of friends here, without a doubt. You can't call them a clique because they know each other personally and have inside jokes, and call each other by their real names. Thats what friends do. Some people let that make them feel excluded, but that is your personal/emotional mind game with yourself. That is not their issue, it is yours and is for you to figure out how to cope with.

People who go to NEST meet each other for real and hang out, and have dinner, and trade phone numbers, and speak to each other over the phone. They become close friends. THAT IS AWESOME! If you don't like it and don't share in the happiness of others, then you probably aren't the kind of person people want to hang out with in general. Don't flame me, I'm saying it. If you had a so called friend that refused to be happy for you anytime you are happy, newflash, they aren't quite the friend you think. Friends find joy in each others joy and accomplishments. I missed out on NEST this year for legitimate reasons, and missed out on a chance to meet a lot of people personally, but I smile from ear to ear reading their recaps and share in their joy.

I delurked recently after being a member from day one this place went up. When I did I specifically sent pm's to two people thanking them for a few things. I didn't know either from a hole in the ground. I have no doubt they are both people considered to be in a/the "clique", but both responded lovingly like I knew them to be from the way they handle themselves here. I'd have no reservations of pm'ing them again for anything and wouldn't expect a cold shoulder in the least. I have no fear of entering conversation with either, or anyone in their circle of friends, in a thread, pm, IM, or chat with the thought that they might blow me off or anything like that. I personally just don't see anything in their normal behaviors that would even warrant that concern.

I'm rambling at this point and just venting. I respect everyone here and am just trying to say, change is weird, sometimes we have to embrace it. It may turn out for the best. For those who think this place is so bad,(and I'm only speaking to those who always have nothing good to say about anything) we don't lock the door upon entry. It's a revolving door, and you welcome to carry your silly ass out at any time; hell you can even post 10 goodbye threads to make us laugh. Peace and love to you all.

ps Yes Crystal it is a wall of text, but I tried to break it up when I could so bite me :roflmao:
 
Hmmmm.

I wonder if this would be a good time to request an underarm sub-forum?:xpeepsofa
 
Wow. Maybe I should read this thread more carefully, but I don't think there's anything more to be gained from it...

Let me just say as a known opinionated person who's said his fair share of controversial things on this Forum (among them, expressing his own thoughts with regard to the degree that cliques may influence goings on), that it's not worth my time to discuss any of them here, since, as applies to the proposal of a "Hello Forum", THEY HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO BEARING.

Let me say frankly, IMHO, that any suggestion that a "Hello Forum" increases "cliquishness" (if that is indeed a word) is asinine. I encourage anyone who thinks otherwise to share with me their views in PM rather than making this a fight thread.

This concept has worked on other Forums without issue. That it was taken down so soon after its inception here is regrettable, but probably a final decision. I suspect it needed only to outlive the initial debate of it's creation to overcome any negative perception, but it seems unlikely to be given a second chance to do so, at least for the near future.

This is, indeed, ridiculous. :disgust:
 
I agree with leafstk and Drew70 119 3/4%...

...which is a big part of why I've just pretty much given up on the TMF altogether. It's just not my scene anymore, perhaps never was, but during my regular stay there, I was able to form several close friendships, and those people added me on their various messenger services, or I them. To me personally, that's far more preferable to derive from any forum, rather than, for example, to hope to be included in the NEST cliques, the TMF Radio "club" and other highly-exclusionary...very, VERY highly-exclusionary...groups. I mean, for an entire new subforum to be created just because one obviously overly-popular new member suggests it? Please. I mean, does anyone ELSE see the absurd irony in a clique leader saying, "Well, to PROVE there's no clique, I and some of my equally mega-cool pals will grant all newcomers a place to post, and we'll make this HUGE grand gesture about doing it and making sure people know who came up with it!"? I think that's what honestly tipped the scales for me right then and there, and, while I may be the only "member" that outright says so aloud, I SERIOUSLY doubt I'm alone in feeling this way. Leafstk and Drew70, well done, men.
 
...which is a big part of why I've just pretty much given up on the TMF altogether. It's just not my scene anymore, perhaps never was, but during my regular stay there, I was able to form several close friendships, and those people added me on their various messenger services, or I them. To me personally, that's far more preferable to derive from any forum, rather than, for example, to hope to be included in the NEST cliques, the TMF Radio "club" and other highly-exclusionary...very, VERY highly-exclusionary...groups. I mean, for an entire new subforum to be created just because one obviously overly-popular new member suggests it? Please. I mean, does anyone ELSE see the absurd irony in a clique leader saying, "Well, to PROVE there's no clique, I and some of my equally mega-cool pals will grant all newcomers a place to post, and we'll make this HUGE grand gesture about doing it and making sure people know who came up with it!"? I think that's what honestly tipped the scales for me right then and there, and, while I may be the only "member" that outright says so aloud, I SERIOUSLY doubt I'm alone in feeling this way. Leafstk and Drew70, well done, men.

Not even worth a real response.....those that dont get just dont get it...lol

Dont forget to mention the clip producers clique or the artist clique or the story writers clique as we would not wish to exclude those people....
 
We all enjoy tickling?

Yes.



ZOMG LOOK OUT PEEPZ WE'Z PART OF A CLIQUE !


ZOMG ZOMG ZOMMMMMGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!
 
I have just become a member of the put the whiners about cliques on ignore clique and will now be free to move about the forum again in peace...:dogpile:
 
How did I miss all the craziness?

Oh, and we're starting a Silly Stuff clique next week.

You must bring your clown shoes.
 
Ahem!

*pulls C.K. aside* We're starting a Silly Stuff clique next week.

*looks imperiously in Venray's direction* :illogical

And I don't know if he's got the chops to be part of our clique...



...or the clown shoes.
 
...which is a big part of why I've just pretty much given up on the TMF altogether. It's just not my scene anymore, perhaps never was, but during my regular stay there, I was able to form several close friendships, and those people added me on their various messenger services, or I them. To me personally, that's far more preferable to derive from any forum, rather than, for example, to hope to be included in the NEST cliques, the TMF Radio "club" and other highly-exclusionary...very, VERY highly-exclusionary...groups. I mean, for an entire new subforum to be created just because one obviously overly-popular new member suggests it? Please. I mean, does anyone ELSE see the absurd irony in a clique leader saying, "Well, to PROVE there's no clique, I and some of my equally mega-cool pals will grant all newcomers a place to post, and we'll make this HUGE grand gesture about doing it and making sure people know who came up with it!"? I think that's what honestly tipped the scales for me right then and there, and, while I may be the only "member" that outright says so aloud, I SERIOUSLY doubt I'm alone in feeling this way. Leafstk and Drew70, well done, men.

No dude dont be embarrassed and your saying what lots think. Ive talked to other members here off the record away from here and they agree. but they are afraid to say so here. Nothing against the new member she is a nice person but that only garners resentment.
 
I was able to form several close friendships, and those people added me on their various messenger services, or I them. To me personally, that's far more preferable to derive from any forum, rather than, for example, to hope to be included in the NEST cliques, the TMF Radio "club" and other highly-exclusionary...very, VERY highly-exclusionary...groups.
Hubba Hubba WHAT?!?!

I am part of a club and NO ONE taught me the secret handshake, the password or anything?!!?!?

I AM SOOOO PISSED!!!

The TMF Radio is not a club. In fact a post was put out to invite ANYONE that wanted to host a show, could have PMed and done so. It went a couple of weeks before anyone really responded. I was one of the first and not because I feel I need some sense of being "above" or in the "high-class" area, I did it because I like to be funny, I enjoy doing radio and I wanted to. Nothing more, nothing less. I do not do my show for any kind of freebies from the MODS, members or otherwise. I do my show because I enjoy it.
And no...Ive never been to NEST, I have NEVER been to any gathering (although I am throwing one) and the people that have responded to attend so far, 80% of them have never been either.
I am here to make friends with a lot of people. I pretty much chat with any group (thats right group...not clique...because if it was I would never be let in or I would be shunned because I "slum" with those that have no groups, and post with anyone no matter whom they are.
And for the record....I was not in favor of the "Hello" forum...but when it was created I really could have cared less. I have more important things to worry or be ranting about than whether it was created by a group, for a group or because of one person.

By the way....Ill be doing my little TMF Radio show (NOT A CLUB) tonight at 11pm....join me if you can as I attempt to jump through hoops naked that are coated in brine.

Rob
 
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