OPINION POLL: Underage content

[wendynpeter]

This whole debate over whether an 18 year old is an adult or not is ridiculous.

TG is asserting that VERY few 18 year old are emotionally mature enough to deal with many of life's complexities. She's absolutely right.

Other people are asserting, essentially, that if you're old enough to fight in Iraq, etc., that makes you an adult. But it doesn't address the implied assertion that just because you are an adult in the eyes of the law, that doesn't make you emotionally ready to deal with much of what life has in store. Even the law recognizes that, and prohibits anyone under 21 from drinking alcohol.

You guys are talking past each other, and missing TG's real point.

 

[Bugman]

This whole debate over whether an 18 year old is an adult or not is ridiculous.

TG is asserting that VERY few 18 year old are emotionally mature enough to deal with many of life's complexities. She's absolutely right.

Other people are asserting, essentially, that if you're old enough to fight in Iraq, etc., that makes you an adult. But it doesn't address the implied assertion that just because you are an adult in the eyes of the law, that doesn't make you emotionally ready to deal with much of what life has in store. Even the law recognizes that, and prohibits anyone under 21 from drinking alcohol.

You guys are talking past each other, and missing TG's real point.

I have to agree with you on this one.Good point.

 

[chicago]

I'm sorry, ticklishgiggle, but an 18 year old is an adult.

I can only assume that you make that judgment based on what you believe to be the level of maturity of a normal 18 year old - which is a fairly logical way of doing it. But I'm sure you realize that some are much more or less mature than what is perceived to be the average. And I'm sure you realize that because of the way young people, right up to the age of 30 but especially 16-23, are covered in the media, the actual average level of maturity is higher than what is portrayed.

Also, I believe you only feel free to say this because you are older than 18, so you are not calling yourself a child. But I'm guessing you are somewhere around 23, although it's hard to tell.
Remember that many people much older than you and I believe that you only become an adult once you are in your 30s with kids and a mortgage. I'm not exaggerating! I have that said to me all the time! So my point is that 18 year olds would object to your statement because it is easy for you to say that now that you are older and it doesn't affect you, just as you would legitimately object on the same grounds if someone older than you called you a child.
The same logic applies, in my opinion, to you saying that even though you joined the TMF underage, under 18s should not be allowed. It's easy to say now, but when it actually affected you, you clearly disagreed!

And finally, if you truly believe that an 18 year old is a child, why are you still on this site where content containing 18 year olds is allowed, but you are saying you will quit another forum because of content containing children?

But I would like to add that you seem like a nice person, and I may come across as criticizing you personally. That's not my intention at all, but I strongly disagree with your statement and believe your logic is, well, illogical.

I am 19. And knowing my peers, and seeing how they act, I would say that more than half are not mature enough for the responsibilities given them once they hit 18. There's no gradual time to get used to them. It's one second you're still in high school, no job, living with your parents, and the next you're legally an adult and supposed to get on with your life. If 18 year olds are adults, why are they never treated as such from other adults? You can see my point, I'm sure. However, that being said, the law does say that 18 year olds are legally "of age." And so since the TMF makes sure to abide by that law, keeping all content free of minors, then there's no reason for me to leave, whether I disagree with that law or not.

The reason I'm leaving TT is because they ALLOW underage content, which scares me that they could get in trouble, and I don't want to be a part of that.

This whole debate over whether an 18 year old is an adult or not is ridiculous.

TG is asserting that VERY few 18 year old are emotionally mature enough to deal with many of life's complexities. She's absolutely right.

Other people are asserting, essentially, that if you're old enough to fight in Iraq, etc., that makes you an adult. But it doesn't address the implied assertion that just because you are an adult in the eyes of the law, that doesn't make you emotionally ready to deal with much of what life has in store. Even the law recognizes that, and prohibits anyone under 21 from drinking alcohol.

You guys are talking past each other, and missing TG's real point.

Thanks, wendynpeter.

 

[huskys]

Without geting into the complexities of it, underage content should always be banned from the TMF.

Yes, I realise that some people mature earlier than others, and the whole 16 y/o girl dating 20 y/o guy thing is age old. And I honestly can't see what fighting in Iraq has to do with any of it.

If the legal age for viewing adult material, (which some of this is) is 18, than that is that. And if underage stuff started creeping in, than I would certainly want no part of it!!!

 

[shadow365]

I didn't feel like reading 9 pages of posts, but I wanted to put in my two cents. I feel that, given the nature of this site, even the innocent tickling of a minor could be construed as sexual. That's really all I have to say.

 

[Pat1982]

This whole debate over whether an 18 year old is an adult or not is ridiculous.

TG is asserting that VERY few 18 year old are emotionally mature enough to deal with many of life's complexities. She's absolutely right.

Other people are asserting, essentially, that if you're old enough to fight in Iraq, etc., that makes you an adult. But it doesn't address the implied assertion that just because you are an adult in the eyes of the law, that doesn't make you emotionally ready to deal with much of what life has in store. Even the law recognizes that, and prohibits anyone under 21 from drinking alcohol.

You guys are talking past each other, and missing TG's real point.

Anyone under 18 should be kept off this site, whether in photos or stories. However, I consider 18-year-olds to be adults. Sure, they have varying levels of maturity, but so do people of all ages. I refuse to treat them like children because they haven't learned all of life's lessons yet. They should try that one on the judge if they ever have a court trial. As for the drinking age, it was 18 for years. It should still be 18 for the sake of moral and logical consistency. The legal drinking age is just symbolic, anyway. It never stopped me or anyone I knew from drinking. Younger people (18-21) are infantilized in this country. It's over the top.

 

[Pat1982]

I am 19. And knowing my peers, and seeing how they act, I would say that more than half are not mature enough for the responsibilities given them once they hit 18. There's no gradual time to get used to them. It's one second you're still in high school, no job, living with your parents, and the next you're legally an adult and supposed to get on with your life. If 18 year olds are adults, why are they never treated as such from other adults? You can see my point, I'm sure. However, that being said, the law does say that 18 year olds are legally "of age." And so since the TMF makes sure to abide by that law, keeping all content free of minors, then there's no reason for me to leave, whether I disagree with that law or not.

The reason I'm leaving TT is because they ALLOW underage content, which scares me that they could get in trouble, and I don't want to be a part of that.



Thanks, wendynpeter.

That's based on your personal experience, which is fine. Few people are totally ready for adulthood when it arrives, but it's a learning process. You gotta start somewhere. You usually know more at 25 than you did at 18 and that process continues throughout your life. Raising the officially-sanctioned recognition of adulthood from 18 to 21 (or whatever) won't change the process.

 

[asutickler]

*edit* Never mind, I sort of mis-read something.

 

[Hiro]

TT does not allow underage content

TT does not allow pics or clips of real minors, period. The only "underage" content allowed there is legal cartoon characters (fake, not real people) in non-graphic settings. Real children and illegal drawings cannot be posted at TT.

 

[Ace Riley]

I find it somewhat disturbing that the vote is not 100% NO.

You find it disturbing that people know the difference between what is sexual and what is not, and that grown adults possess the ability to distinguish fantasy from reality?

The question of the poll was not whether we wanted underage content of any sort. That's deplorable. It defined itself as long as it was non-lifelike and non-sexual. Therefore as a mature adult, obviously why would I have a problem within this context?

Your pretense would bar even telling stories about you being tickled as a kid. This was a non-sexual event, yet it was true, yet you were a minor. How dare this occur to you, a crime I say! Yet it's the innocence of the time that even brought you here. And consists of a good margin of stories in the non-fiction forum.

You see the stupidity of the statement? Even the attacks on the stories on characters that are animated, which aren't even real, have no birth certificate, and may even be 20 years old in creation are still viewed under your zero-tolerance pretense. It's gotten bad enough that even the "ageing" of completely FICTIONAL characters, in the most literal of pretense is being placed upon the members as if nobody here has any judgement whatsoever.

It seems Americans to a large degree have trouble distinguishing fantasy from reality, and are extremely fickle in seperating what is sexual from what is not. Do you get turned on by a family member tickling their nephews? Of course not, what kind of pervert person could you be? This act within it's context should not be confused with fetishism, nor should it be judged by that by you. If you're having problems dealing with that sort of situation you have more issues than simply a moral one.

But from the sound of it, there are people here uncomfortable with the topic, as such if that's so, don't bring the issue of legality here. It's obvious that it's a personal problem with quite a few of you who can't seperate two completely different abstract situations and apply them to the right context in this forum.

Don't judge me for looking at things as they truly are, and not how they could possibly be interpreted by people of less developed wisdom.

 

[jonsmith]

This seems to be a big issue.

Why not just make places where that content can be exclusively shown? That way people that like it can view it, and those that don't can just not go near it? There are places like that on the internet after all. Just put it there. It just seems very silly to me that instead of being so cut and dry, most people don't look past the initial emotional response, and actually deal with the problem itself. Because the issue is i the psychology of the individual, and sometimes in the genetics. You can't just kill flies that are going after poop and not clean the poop, expecting that the flies will not come back.

The proposed places do not need to be on this forum, but can be somewhere else. Preferably not american servers, but another nation's servers which will allow it. There are many nations to pick from. I have no doubt that that's already been done. When someone posts some underage stuff, just let them know that "You don't put this here, you put it on THAT site." direct them there, and never hear from them again.

Don't judge me because I am neither for or against. I'm more interested in peace, and this seems like the most peaceful method so far.

 

[rhiannon]

This seems to be a big issue.

How big of an issue can it be if this thread has been dead for uh, almost six years now?

Don't judge me because I am neither for or against.

Really? Then how did you find this thread?

 

[jonsmith]

searching up anime, lol.

 

[Tooticklish4u]

Ok, I'm going to throw in my 2 cents in here on this one. I am not advocating anything underage whatsoever. But i do have one exception. True tickling stories. lets face it, 99% of us have developed our "fetish" for tickling, being tickled at a very early age. So what is wrong with stories telling about how that developed? I for one have had tremendous ticklings from age 12 up. My brother also could tell you stories (and has) about tickling me and girls my age when we were growing up. In fact he used to write a LOT of stories on here years ago. One true story about growing up was nominated for a Golden feather award, was praised highly, and suddenly it gets yanked one week before the voting. My brother stopped coming to this site ever since, and I have stopped being a part of the community as well. I will lurk, i will TAKE from the community, but i will never be a part of it again, because of the Bias i see here all the time. And i do find it very hypocritical as well. My brothers true stories were taken down, and yet i see all the time other true stories with underage tickling going up in that section all the time.
Back on base, I think the mods could chill just a bit about underage tickling in the true tickling section as long as it doesn't involve sex. All my brothers true tickling stories about tickling me and my g/fs had NO sex in them whatsoever. it was always about tickling.
Thats just my opinion, and I'm sure you all will go ahead and bash me for having that opinion. That's fine. I'll go right back to lurking and smirking at everything and stay silent again.

 

[scorpionldr]

Hopefully the title doesn't mislead you too much.

Debate has been sparked on TickleTheater (waves...yeah, i did it) as to whether underage tickling content, in a non-photorealistic and cartoon-ish form should be permitted on adult tickling fetish websites.

TickleTheater's reasoning is that, since tickling between twelve year olds (using that age as an example) is a common occurence with no sexual implications, it shouldn't be banned from the boards. They (by 'they' I mean moderators) believe that if there are no overt sexual implication in the drawing, and if the drawings are not realistic in any way (as in very cartoony), then there is no reason anyone should be aroused by them.

However, on the same site, some artists are posting pictures of twelve-ish year olds licking each other's feet. There's no way you can tell me that's not sexual. Besides which, how can it be innocent if underage characters are being specifically drawn? If there's no sexual aspect there, then age wouldn't matter, right?

My opinion is very, very clear. Underage content in ANY way shape or form needs to be kept off of so-called adult websites. It's disgusting, if you ask me.

I'm curious as to what the general consensus is here on the TMF, and thus, this poll.

Please vote honestly, as you know this is an anonymous poll.

((NOTE: This is not a bid to change the TMF's rules. Just an opinion poll.))

so why would you put unarousing stuff on a site meant for arousing stuff? Both sites here and there reak of pornographic content. Ppl could get confused. And then when they make their own assumptions they draw to one conclusion, no matter how definite they may be.

 

[Dave Pavet]

What if it's in a story and a incident of "reminiscents" such as this happened to me when? or i was a witness to this? Overt NO! but in the context of a flashback or previous incident to follow a story line... No problem. I can see other exceptions to it also. A young girl gets tickled in the stocks. They would print the picture in a newspaper but not here?

 

[rhiannon]

So what is wrong with stories telling about how that developed?

What's wrong is the thought of people jacking off over it. This is a tickling fetish site, and I don't think anybody here wants it linked to underage participants.

 

[lovesribs]

no kids. period.