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Phineas' Adventures in China

Phineas

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those of you who know me, know that I'm married to a woman from mainland China. Occasionally, I lose all semblance of common sense and allow my betrothed to drag me "home" to spend time with her family. This past January, I was on such a trip.

The amusing thing, actually, is that said wife's younger (27, looks 12 - go figure) sister is, without a shadow of a doubt, *the* most ticklish girl in all of China. I've said as much in the past, even posted how she's impossible to even touch, really... but this past trip, some interesting things happened, so I thought I'd share.

Now, as previously mentioned, my younger sister (I'll call her Mei) cannot stand to be tickled for *any* length of time. The first time I did so, on my last trip, she shot twenty feet into the air. The second, I received the most unholy of sounds for my effort. A mixed reaction, to be sure; I figured more "research" was necessary.

Well, the first time I had the chance this trip was when she, my wife, and I, were all sitting together in her dorm room in Beijing. I was lying on her bed, feet near the computer desk at the foot of the bed. My wife'd sat down to use the computer, and sassed me for reasons I don't recall, so I dug a foot under her arm. Ticklishness runs in the family, and my wife puts up with it once in a while. Mei laughed at my treatment of her older sib, so I figured hey, no big deal.

Mei eventually quipped something to me I don't recall; she's been studying English and we're actually able to communicate now, and of course she enjoys ribbing me. So when *she* sat down in front of the computer, she got the foot-under-arm treatment.

Now folks, I don't speak Chinese very well, but whatever she said in response to being tickled was not repeatable. She also gave me that indignant little "hmph!" thing Anime girls usually do, so I'm thinking okay, there's no hope for ol' Phin this trip. Don't want to make the girl angry - she didn't even laugh. To really drive the point home, my wife looks at me and says "she's afraid of tickling". Okay, okay, I get the point.

So the next day, we've arrived in Xuzhou, my wife's hometown. I stayed at home for some reason (we were bunking with her parents) while my wife and my in-laws went out. Mei stayed with me... basically, she'd vowed to never leave my side for the entire three weeks I was there because she wanted to improve her English. I have no problem with this. 😀

Now, Mei, for some reason, has decided that it's okay to be *very* physically affectionate with her brother-in-law (yo!). She held my hand, hugged me, put her head on my shoulder, and did all sorts of similar stuff the whole time I was there. So on this day we're chatting about something, and she informed me she'd done something for me that required me to thank her. Memory fails on what, exactly, but she was behind me as she put her head on my shoulder from behind and said, "thank me!".

My intent, of course, was to reach around and hug her "in reverse". But somehow, she shifted, and I could see in the mirror that my hand was about to go between her legs. My brain began to flail its' robot arms and shout "DANGER, WILL ROBINSON!" - would be *very* bad to continue on *that* course of action. So I shifted, using said mirror as a guide, to actually get her in the backward-hug as intended, and accidentally wind up tickling her in the ribs instead.

Here is where it gets interesting.

Rather than freak, swear at me in Chinese, or make an ugly noise... she laughed. That's not the funny part. What is...

...is that she tried to tickle me back.

Now, I'm not the most ticklish of persons, especially not in the clothes I was wearing (China's cold this time'a year!). But in the back of my nog, I'm thinkin', did my little sister, who is apparently "afraid" of being tickled, just have a favorable reaction and also try to initiate a tickle fight with me?

I didn't reciprocate, because I didn't want to push it. But that was definitely different.

Then, a few days later, I'm lying on the bed in our room, sans socks of my own. Wife-and-sister combo appear. Sister says something to wife, who translates for me. "She likes your feet."

Whaaa? I smiled, then went back to reading my book. (Star Wars: Cloak of Deception. Very good novel.)

Next thing I know, Mei is tickling my foot. Knowing how "weird" my wife is about this, I wag my foot in an effort to get rid of her finger. She giggles and keeps at it. Eventually my wife notices, and, thinking I'm under "duress", joins her sibling. Now, my wife has all the tickling skill of a spastic hamster, and the "ordeal" ends quickly. But ya gotta wonder, now don'tcha.

Fast-forward a few weeks. Mei has gotten the occasional poke in jest by now numerous times, usually when I was tired of her pidgin-English wisecracking, which is cute, but can't go unpunished. 😀 We've decided to all hop the train to Qingdao, because my wife has business there. We're sharing a sleeping car.

For some reason, my wife has been ordering me to massage her feet the last few days. Decided that I'm actually good at it, and that she wants me to do it. Okay, no arguments here. The funny part is, though, that Mei wakes up (remember, sleeping car) and sees me doing it. Her eyebrows shoot up five feet. "You know how to do that?"

I answer in the affirmative. She watches, enraptured. "I want to know how to do that."

I says, "okay." She then goes back to sleep. I finish up with the wife, figuring my impulsive little sister was just talking to talk and not really serious. It happens. Even so, my hopes aren't very high; no way would she let me demonstrate on *her*, what with even breathing wrong near her exposed skin sending her into ticklish hysterics. She'd probably ask me to use my wife.

Later on, tho, my wife is asleep in the upper bunk, and I'm reading an X-Men novel. (The Jewels of Cyttorak, if you care.) Eventually I notice Mei is awake and trying to kick me by waving her socked foot across the car. I raised an eyebrow at her.

When she realizes she's got my attention, she says, "Massage." (as an aside, in her less-than-perfect command of the language, she pronounces it "massaji".)

My momma didn't raise no fool. Besides, my sister-in-law has beautiful, slender, graceful feet. I relieved her of her socks and gave her a reflexology treatment. Now, knowing she's amazingly ticklish, I had to be very careful - one wrong move and she'd be buried under the sheets, and my wife would be scolding me for tickling her again.

Now, in the beginning, I can see her lips twitching like she's gulping back a giggle or two, but I finally get into the rhythm and produce a good, firm, massaji. She's content, and relaxed. Bonding moment? Maybe! But anyway, eventually I decide to show her how it's done... but I can't do that without teaching her the words involved. So Mei gets a quick anatomy lesson; toes, heel, instep, ball, arch. Unfortunately, I "slipped" when describing the arch; I used the back of my index finger to rub the surface of her arch, from end to end, just to show it covered the whole area... and naturally, that tickled the hell out of her.

But here's the thing. She burst out laughing... but didn't move her foot. I wasn't holding her particularly firmly, so she could have pulled out of my grasp and taken off, if she'd so desired... but she did not even make the effort.

Go figure.

The rest of the train ride found me learning some more Chinese, and her picking up further English terms... including, of course, the differences between "tickling" and being "ticklish". And when I quizzed her later, she remembered all the parts of the foot with no prompting. 😀 She did tell me that she's been getting less ticklish over the years, and that when she was younger, her schoolmates couldn't even put a hand on her knee without making her jump.

I didn't tickle Mei much after that, although I gave her a few squeeze for a particularly spicy jest she made; it's hard to give it to her really good when her elder sister is hovering overhead ready to "rescue" her at any given moment.

But overall... ya gotta wonder about that girl. And I do believe, judging from the events that transpired on this trip, that I may have "tamed" China's Most Ticklish Girl. And for that, I am content.

sorry I didn't get to see ya, Likang... but our schedule was so full, we had no time to even consider meeting anyone other than family.

Phin
 
Thanks for the story of your trip, Phineas. How's this for a fantasy? By the time you and your wife go back there in early 2005, your sister-in-law has told dozens of young women what great foot massages you give, and all of them insist on having the experience. 😀
 
Welcome back, Phinny!
Sounds like you had a great time...it's good havin' ya around, by the way, I don't think I ever told you that.
 
now that must have been a cool trip! what is it about Chinese women? a close friend of mine is ridiculously ticklish, especially on her feet. yet, i managed to get her to enjoy foot massages. she now LOVES it when i massage her feet and even allows me to lightly tickle her feet. if i try tickle torture, i'm out of luck. hey, you take any victory you can get. glad you enjoyed your trip!
 
Re: Phineas' Adventures In China

Phin,
Any chance of your sister-in-law coming here to Florida or NYC? I would LOVE to give her a foot massage. I will teach her to LOVE having her feet lightly tickled.
I wanted to be the first to offer my services IF.. IF she decides to visit the States.
 
Welcome to China !

Oh, my old friend! I just say nice to meet you this time. Well, you come to China this year but you didn't told me anything that you and you wife went to Beijing. I miss you, Chinese girl are more ticklish than American blond. Yes, yes, the truth is Chinese ladies are very sensitive. They have sofe skin and nice feet, if you come to China next year, please connect with me, I will tell you someplace which you enjoyed!
 
Likang:

Sorry man, but you know how it is with family and Spring Festival. Everybody comes out of the woodwork and demands that you have lunch or dinner with them, take sightseeing trips with them, etc. We spent the entire three weeks we were there just accomodating as many relatives as possible.

Far as Beijing goes, we weren't there long enough to do anything. Got in early evening, had dinner with my sister-in-law and her husband, went to sleep, then got on the train to Xuzhou early the next day. I would have loved to see you, but there was no time.

Bart:

Do you always offer to "service" the relatives of complete strangers over the Internet? That's just weird, man...
 
Phineas,

I was wondering where you went bro.
Ya know, I guess I never paid attention.. I didn't know you were married! Cool and great adventure you had. Now the Jewels of Cyttorak, that was the Jewel that made Juggy unstoppable, right?

Anyway whatever happened with Phoung? Just curious. 🙂

p.s.- "That's just weird man" LOL, it's the internet, what did you expect? 😉
 
Offering my services. . .

Phin,
Hahahaha.
Yes I WOULD offer my services tickling-wise to anyone that is pretty & ticklish. Why is that weird? I'm NOT married or have any girlfriend at the moment.
Besides, I was half-joking.
Don't take everything so literal.
Hahahaha.
 
Darkknight said:
Phineas,

I was wondering where you went bro.
Ya know, I guess I never paid attention.. I didn't know you were married! Cool and great adventure you had. Now the Jewels of Cyttorak, that was the Jewel that made Juggy unstoppable, right?

yea, the plot of the book was that a second jewel was found, and turned the guy who found it into a second Juggernaut. Thing is, when both jewels are possessed by the same person, they become godlike. The X-Men needed to stop the guy because, well, he was Juggernaut *without* the "self-restraint", and also keep Juggernaut away from him because neither of them needed to get any *more* powerful. 'course, Juggernaut wanted to stomp this guy because using the second jewel causes him pain, and could take away his power. Badly-written, but an interesting story.

Anyway whatever happened with Phuong? Just curious. 🙂

*sigh*...

Phuong and I are currently not speaking. For some reason she turned psycho on me and started attacking me for things I didn't do. After three months of her "you're my best friend/you're a stalker/I'm sorry/I'm not sorry" routine I told her I was fed up, and goodbye.

That was two days ago, and I'm still hurting over it. She was a beautiful person, and a good friend.

p.s.- "That's just weird man" LOL, it's the internet, what did you expect? 😉

yea, I s'pose sharing an innocent story about my younger sister without the horndogs comin' out of the woodwork to offer their "services" was a little too much to ask fer. 🙄
 
Are we really strangers here anymore....?

Phin, how did you and your wife.... well, how do I ask this. What does she think of your tickling interest? "She puts up with it once in a while". And she's not a skilled tickler, either. What are her feelings about this? I ask, simply becuase I have always wondererd if I met the "right" woman in every way - except she wasn't into tickling like me, could I really be with her her happily forever? And when I really think about it the answer I always come up with is "no." This issue was even a topic here about a year ago. And yet you seem to be having a success of it, even endulging as far as doing the web images for the game. Unless my tickling interest is just stronger than yours, what is the secret?

Although, I think you may have picked up a Chinese convert in Mei.....
 
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Oddjob0226 said:
Are we really strangers here anymore....?

Phin, how did you and you're wife.... well, how do I ask this. What does she think of your tickling interest? "She puts up with it once in a while". And she's not a skilled tickler, either. What are her feelings about this? I ask, simply becuase I have always wondererd if i met the "right" woman in every way - except she wasn't into tickling like me, could I really be with her her happily forever? And when I really think about it the answer I always come up with is "no." This iaaue was even a topic here about a year ago. And yet you seem to be having a success of it, even endulging as far as doing the web images for the game. Unless my tickling interest is just stronger than yours, what is the secret?

Although, I think you may have picked up a Chinese convert in Mei.....

a fair question, and one that deserves an answer. I regret taking so long to come up with one, because it's not as cut-and-dry as it appears.

First of all, my attitude towards dating, as well as my fetish, has always been a little on the defeatist side. Women didn't exactly beat my door down, and I never truly found one into tickling who wasn't just putting up with it to make me happy. Eventually I realized that there is no one "perfect" person out there waiting for us; you can either spend your entire life holding out for your soul mate, or you can make concessions and be as happy as life allows.

This was what I had to decide when I became involved with my wife... because truly, she was perfect for me in every way with the single exception of not being a tickle-enthusiast. I had to debate long and hard with myself whether or not to pass on this woman and keep holding out for one "better"... because given my track record thus far, I did not hold a tremendous amount of confidence.

What's my secret? Well, I've never truly had the opportunity to satisfy my fetish to any great lengths, so I'm used to that fact by now. I'd pretty much given up on having my fetish be a big part of my love life by the time I was in my early '20s. We all have our "dirty little secrets" so this one would have to be mine. I didn't truly come clean to my wife until we'd been married for almost four years.

So, while my fetish is pretty strong, my desire to date and meet women is also strong. I had to weigh the pros and cons of whether or not I was willing to risk being alone for the rest of my life unless I found The One. I decided that if I wanted to marry there were going to be some things I may have to sacrifice. Finding a tickle partner, apparently, was one of them.

Now, as far as how she feels about it? I don't know for sure, as we've never truly sat down and discussed it. She may not like it all that much; being a typical woman, her opinion on that (and other) topics tends to fluctuate about as predictably as the cycles of the moon and tide. But as long as it never "crossed the line" she has never really said anything one way or another. Far as the game goes, I began it without her knowledge, and eventually revealed it when it was too far along for her to nix the idea. Once she saw that my friends (the ones whom I'd filmed) were okay with it, she relaxed on the concept. Plus, allowing her to be present while I filmed some of the later models helped, I guessed. It hasn't all been roses, but I've told her flat out that if she refuses to indulge me (as she does) then I have to find other outlets, and she has no choice but to accept that. Being a very rational woman, she does.

So in summary, I suppose she's okay with it - at least, she's never complained openly. And I felt that gambling with my life based on something so iffy as acceptance of my fetish by a potential loved one was not a risk I was willing to take. You may feel otherwise, but that's because your life experiences and personality may have dictated your overall opinions otherwise.

Besides, overall I think I made the right choice in a mate; everyone I've met since then whom I thought might be "better" has proven not to be... and anyway, how many Asian women do we have on this forum, the largest gathering of tickling enthusiasts on the World Wide Web? Of those, how many are local enough to meet? The odds were stacked against me from the start based on my other preferences. We all have to sacrifice something.

Hope this helped, OJ.
 
Phin that was a brilliant post; I personally found your candour and frankness to be very refreshing. I think you've summed up your life and your feelings about yourself and your "inner workings" very well.
 
Phineas said:

Hope this helped, OJ.

Not a bad answer at all, Phin. I've always wondered how to deal with it. While tickling isn't all I'm about, it's a big enough part of me that I could never successfully suppress it, which would affect my happiness in life and ultimately the realtionship of the person I'd be with. I know some couples where both people are into "it" and things work out great. I've known couples where only 1 person hd the interest and it didn't work at all. Here's a case where only 1 person's into it, yet it seems to be working out.

So the key was this: she didn't have to be into tickling...... but she did have to be Asian! :jester: :firedevil

(Hey, how come there's no 'fire jester' character????)
 
Oddjob0226 said:
Not a bad answer at all, Phin. I've always wondered how to deal with it. While tickling isn't all I'm about, it's a big enough part of me that I could never successfully suppress it, which would affect my happiness in life and ultimately the realtionship of the person I'd be with. I know some couples where both people are into "it" and things work out great. I've known couples where only 1 person hd the interest and it didn't work at all. Here's a case where only 1 person's into it, yet it seems to be working out.

my life has always been about suppression. I can't think of a single aspect of myself that, at one point or another, I didn't have to crush down into non-existence because it was found to be unfavorable by the people I was around. So when you're used to having "life itself" tell you, all during your formative years and beyond, "you can't do that", "that's inappropriate behavior", or "you can't have that", eventually you just shrug and move on.

So the key was this: she didn't have to be into tickling...... but she did have to be Asian!

strangely enough, I've found that I mesh best with traditionally-raised Chinese women. I started out being attracted to their appearances (obviously) but the combination of hard-working ethics, rationality, and selfless affection in my wife really struck home with me. Having spent a lot of time around non-Americanized Chinese over the past five years or so, I've come to the conclusion that American women are generally selfish, contradictory, and inherently unpleasable. I thought it was just that my wife was a gem, but most Chinese women I've met both here and abroad are a lot like her. Go figure. 🙂 There's a huge difference in the attitudes of Chinese/other Asian women raised here in America as opposed to being raised in their countries of origin... and having experienced both sides of the coin over the years, I can safely say I prefer the "home-grown" variety.

now, if only their sense of family didn't border on the ridiculous... 😀
 
Phineas said:
my life has always been about suppression. I can't think of a single aspect of myself that, at one point or another, I didn't have to crush down into non-existence because it was found to be unfavorable by the people I was around.

Dude, reading that made me want to tear my rapidly receeding hair our by the roots!

One of the biggest tenets of world freedom is the right to express your individuality in whatever you you please, providing it doesn't impinge upon that same right in another person. From what you said earlier in the thread though it sounds as if you have managed to redress the balance somewhat, so damn good for you mate! 🙂
 
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