Pointless bondage

[dw2288]

I'm sorry but someone tell me if it bothers you as much as it does me. I hate when you find a tickling video where the girl is tied up and here body is COMPLETELY exposed and they only tickle her feet......... that makes my blood pressure rise I hate that with a passion it defeats the purpose of bein tied up that way....does anyone else share my feelings????

 

[Mislaffsalot]

i feel ya. if a guy or girl is half nekkid and tied up (especially spread eagle) and all those wonderfully vulnerable ticklish spots are easily accessible and the only place that is tickled is their feet is just soooooo wrong!!! im an upper body fan anyways, so when the upper body is ready and waiting to be tickled and is neglected, it not only makes me mad, but it's such a let-down.

 

[chemcutie]

I agree completely, it is a letdown, mostly because I'm an upperbody fan. But I guess its great for the foot people.

But yes, its not much use tying someone up if you're only gonna tickle their feet!

 

[drew70]

Feet tickling is great, but the upper body is a gold mine and should not be ignored.

 

[huskys]

I have to agree. I love tickling feet, but to ignore a helplessly tied upper body,is almost criminal.
Soooooo many ticklish areas to explore there.
I certainly wouldn't make that mistake!!!

 

[SlaverTickler]

I'm sorry but someone tell me if it bothers you as much as it does me. I hate when you find a tickling video where the girl is tied up and here body is COMPLETELY exposed and they only tickle her feet......... that makes my blood pressure rise I hate that with a passion it defeats the purpose of bein tied up that way....does anyone else share my feelings????

Now people are catching on to my biggest complaint here at the forum. Foot folk have taken over. There isn't enough veriety, all it is about is the feet. I once posted some Non-TK nude vid clips and I was told it was off topics. Well if thats the case then why are none tk foot clips aloud. Foot folk drive me NUTS!

 

[ShadowTklr]

I've expressed this sentiment many times in the past, and it appears it bears repeating: If you want more variety, create it.

What most of you fail to realize is that foot tickling is the predominant fetish of focus on this site BECAUSE the foot tickling crowd has thus far taken it upon themselves to contribute the material that is desireable to them.

If upper body folks feel as though their predeliction is not being adequately represented, then I suggest they take up the fight to balance things here and introduce their own material.

As a foot tickling fetishist, I would think it is not encumbent upon me to provide material to represent your interests.

With respect to ticklers of all types, I would love to see some creativity borne of the minds and imaginations of the upper body crowd. I think it's a real untapped resource.

 

[Bizkit]

I looooove feet tickling so at times it is alright.But,it does leave many vulnerable spots feeling left out.We cant have that.....

 

[ftkl_haha]

I've expressed this sentiment many times in the past, and it appears it bears repeating: If you want more variety, create it.

What most of you fail to realize is that foot tickling is the predominant fetish of focus on this site BECAUSE the foot tickling crowd has thus far taken it upon themselves to contribute the material that is desireable to them.

If upper body folks feel as though their predeliction is not being adequately represented, then I suggest they take up the fight to balance things here and introduce their own material.

As a foot tickling fetishist, I would think it is not encumbent upon me to provide material to represent your interests.

With respect to ticklers of all types, I would love to see some creativity borne of the minds and imaginations of the upper body crowd. I think it's a real untapped resource.

Bingo.

Foot fetishism and tickling kinda have a sort of symbiosis which makes foot tickling very marketable (it's 90% of the industry, cuz it's what makes the money). If you want what you like to have a bigger share in the market, you have to either contribute material or (Heaven forbid) spend money on the stuff that you like to make it more prominent. I've been drawing stuff for 10 years now and the market has not changed. I'm not complaining because what I like is on top. Foot tickling is my passion, so like Shadow says it's not encumbent upon me to provide the material that you desire.

If you want to see more of what YOU like, then step up and make it happen. But can you do it without slamming the foot folk? It's just a fetish, not a damn civil war. Some of you make it sound as if you upperbody ticklers are the Rebel Alliance to our Galactic Empire. It ain't that serious. Chill.

~FTKL

 

[drew70]

"Stepping up and making it happen" is one way to get it brought about, but that is far more easier said than done. There are many producers of tickling media who are very interested in hearing what people want to see, so it makes better sense to me to go that route rather than going to the considerable trouble and expense of making one's own.

 

[SillyMan]

I must say, that I agree with you and often think the same thing. I have been wondering, if it's because I am not specially into feet and more a upperbody tickler - but glad to see, that others have the same thoughts.

 

[MrPartickler]

LOL. I've thought the same thing pretty often actually. Some positions (e.g., spreadeagle) are pretty much made for an "all over" style of tickling. It's not optimized for any one spot; it just makes them most all of them vulnerable. I'm sure anyone here who saw that a woman was barefoot and in stocks would raise an eyebrow if she wasn't ever tickled on her feet. Heck, I sure would question it. lol

What most of you fail to realize is that foot tickling is the predominant fetish of focus on this site BECAUSE the foot tickling crowd has thus far taken it upon themselves to contribute the material that is desireable to them.

If upper body folks feel as though their predeliction is not being adequately represented, then I suggest they take up the fight to balance things here and introduce their own material.

Careful there, Shadow. I think the supply generally follows the demand in these cases. The way the demand is made known is through vocal requests and complaints--lots of them. So, in that way, SlaverTickler and others here are actually "taking up the fight." The problem with that is just what we see here: it quickly annoys those who don't share that opinion.

This is just another example the squeaky wheel getting the grease. We don't have to go very far to realize that there are way more people who'll request material, voice complaints, and discuss their concerns--whatever they are--than who actually supply or find solutions for them. That's just the nature of the beast I think.

 

[ShadowTklr]

Careful there, Shadow. I think the supply generally follows the demand in these cases. The way the demand is made known is through vocal requests and complaints--lots of them. So, in that way, SlaverTickler and others here are actually "taking up the fight." The problem with that is just what we see here: it quickly annoys those who don't share that opinion.

Ordinarily, I would take your side on this issue in its entirety. However, we have to understand that for most of the contributors in this arena, foot tickling is also a personal passion, not simply a business endeavor.

And, for what its worth, this whole site began with nothing more than participant contribution. ALL of that material was created by people who had a specific interest, and were not creating material for the sake of commercial appeal.

With this in mind, it is not unreasonable to assume that those interested in upper body tickling can begin contributing material in order to garner greater support from others.

 

[ftkl_haha]

With all due respect, this is another example of missing the point. As soon as someone comments on the obnoxious behavior of certain posters, it automatically brings out this "slamming the foot folk" indignation. Let's try to make this clear - nobody is picking on a whole segment of this community (at least I'm not), just certain members who insist on having it their way all the time. We should stop to think about that before conflating any complaints about that into a "civil war".

Unfortunately, most of these behaviors are exhibited by foot fans just because of their numbers here. Does that mean we should excuse them? No. I'd be just as against it if people posted in foot tickle threads to whine about no belly tickling, only we rarely see that.

Speaking of missing the point, Vollin, I've made similar posts about obnoxious behavior from the foot crowds. You missed the part where I said "It ain't that serious" and seem to have dismissed my comment as a rant.

So now, I'll rant:To contribute stuff that suits you, ya don't have to make a clip. You could draw, you could commission someone else to do artwork or a clip, or ANYTHING constructive, other than bitching about it all the time. But it takes EFFORT or some other form of expenditure. ALL the contributors to this fetish and to the TMF have spent, put forth effort and made sacrifices to make material available and I respect them all for this, even if I don't like their particular brand of tickling. Bitching takes NO effort, no expenditure and generally requires a lack of respect, IMHO. That's my point. I'm glad you contribute. It gives weight to your opinion. (Yes, I'm "one of those" who'll tell people that don't vote to stop whining about the government, too.)
End of rant.

I'm glad you don't slam the foot folk, Vollin, but I've seen a great deal of it happening on this forum in recent months ... and yes I've seen the foot folks doing it too. It's deplorable. And Shadowtklr, your last response was right on the money.

~FTKL

 

[MrPartickler]

Ordinarily, I would take your side on this issue in its entirety. However, we have to understand that for most of the contributors in this arena, foot tickling is also a personal passion, not simply a business endeavor.

And, for what its worth, this whole site began with nothing more than participant contribution. ALL of that material was created by people who had a specific interest, and were not creating material for the sake of commercial appeal.

With this in mind, it is not unreasonable to assume that those interested in upper body tickling can begin contributing material in order to garner greater support from others.

I see what you're saying. But it's interesting to note that much of the early material still originated from producers. (I'm purposely excluding the artwork and stories sections, which I'm assuming are mostly original but personally know little about.) It's pretty easy to check the earliest posts in, say, the VidClips and Images sections and notice that most of the things there are reposts/copies/scans of what other producers had created. (I can recall quite a flap regarding copyrights that came about from this several years ago in fact.)

After all, a lot existed before the TMF. The TMF has since grown substantially since then, but the times have changed too. Nowadays, since so much revenue is based from clip sales and/or site memberships, reposting the material of existing producers is generally (but not always) frowned upon. So I wouldn't even expect to grow the TMF today the same way it happened at its inception.

That being said, another interesting thing to note is that when you scan the aforementioned sub-forums, the "foot-centricness" so often claimed is actually not readily apparent. It might be (and probably is) overrepresented in some ways, but at the top level there's actually a great deal of diversity there. I think this is because most producers really do cater to a variety of tastes.

It's always been a theory of mine that here we only have the appearance of an overwhelmingly "foot-dominated" forum rather than actual fact. However, it's difficult to tell for sure without referencing something quantifiable. I just haven't yet figured out an easy way to verify that--short of reviewing and cataloging every post. (lol) Anyway, I'd love to get some hard numbers on that.

While I think that it's necessary for people to let producers know what they want to see more of, I'd agree that a flood of complaints is not desirable. But, as evidenced by this very thread, sometimes there can be a fine line between the two.

 

[luv2tikl]

oh my gosh, agreed! It's a huge waste of time becuase you're like "there's no way they won't tickle her upper body" and then you watch the whole thing or skip through it just to find that they don't! AAAAH! I want to jump into the screen and punch the tickler in the face! And then tickle the crap out of the 'lees tummy and underarms! lol, if only I could...

 

[vsa7a]

And, for what its worth, this whole site began with nothing more than participant contribution. ALL of that material was created by people who had a specific interest, and were not creating material for the sake of commercial appeal.

i would disagree with that. unfortunately the story is we depend on them to uphold this forum.

 

[vsa7a]

oh my gosh, agreed! It's a huge waste of time becuase you're like "there's no way they won't tickle her upper body" and then you watch the whole thing or skip through it just to find that they don't! AAAAH! I want to jump into the screen and punch the tickler in the face! And then tickle the crap out of the 'lees tummy and underarms! lol, if only I could...

lol i would do the same *jumps through screen and kicks tickler's ass 'you suck tickler!' tickles the lee into submission*

 

[ShadowTklr]

I see what you're saying. But it's interesting to note that much of the early material still originated from producers. (I'm purposely excluding the artwork and stories sections, which I'm assuming are mostly original but personally know little about.) It's pretty easy to check the earliest posts in, say, the VidClips and Images sections and notice that most of the things there are reposts/copies/scans of what other producers had created. (I can recall quite a flap regarding copyrights that came about from this several years ago in fact.)

After all, a lot existed before the TMF. The TMF has since grown substantially since then, but the times have changed too. Nowadays, since so much revenue is based from clip sales and/or site memberships, reposting the material of existing producers is generally (but not always) frowned upon. So I wouldn't even expect to grow the TMF today the same way it happened at its inception.

That being said, another interesting thing to note is that when you scan the aforementioned sub-forums, the "foot-centricness" so often claimed is actually not readily apparent. It might be (and probably is) overrepresented in some ways, but at the top level there's actually a great deal of diversity there. I think this is because most producers really do cater to a variety of tastes.

It's always been a theory of mine that here we only have the appearance of an overwhelmingly "foot-dominated" forum rather than actual fact. However, it's difficult to tell for sure without referencing something quantifiable. I just haven't yet figured out an easy way to verify that--short of reviewing and cataloging every post. (lol) Anyway, I'd love to get some hard numbers on that.

While I think that it's necessary for people to let producers know what they want to see more of, I'd agree that a flood of complaints is not desirable. But, as evidenced by this very thread, sometimes there can be a fine line between the two.

It appears that we may be saying the same thing, although, I concede to your point about the producers having existed long before the TMF's inception. Also, I agree that see more UB tickling here than I ever have before, so maybe the problem isn't as pervasive as some might think.

And, while there were certainly producers of tickling material around before the TMF, it didn't appear that many of them were actually members in the beginning. Companies like Cal Star and HOM really weren't fetishists themselves. Members were actually posting their stuff. So, even if the producers themselves weren't fetishists, the members who represented their material were.

I guess I just feel as though there are things (like artwork, stories, and images) that some members could actually create themselves. Hey, you gotta start somewhere.

 

[ShadowTklr]

i would disagree with that. unfortunately the story is we depend on them to uphold this forum.

11 years ago, a small start-up video company would have had to be interested in tickiling material to produce it, I would think. A fetish company would be a different story, because the diversity of their offerings would have attracted a larger audience. But tickling? I think you were either a fetishist posting material from non-fetish companies, or you were a small start-up, trying to capitalize on your personal passion for tickling.

I'm open to be corrected, if someone can show examples to the contrary.

 

[giggle-maker]

Especialy if there are two 'lers' and they BOTH ignore the UB.

 

[P[a]pi]

My lee is an upperbody lee at heart and we both love it.

 

[phfttklr]

Geez, you people need to relax. What's up with all the violence? So, a tickle video isn't your cup of tea, move on to one that is and be happy that there are videos out there. I don't know how old you are but there was a time not long ago,where there were no videos or only a few but with non-ticklish women that you had to pay $60 and up. Now there's M/F, F/F, F/M, M/M and multiple lee's and ler's. You can buy clips for less than $7 and if you can't find one out there by now, you have issues... and it seems there are some, with all this talk of "punching people" because you don't like there tickling tastes. Get a grip. I'm hoping they're just kidding.

Come on, everybody. "All we are saying, is give tickling a chance"

 

[ftkl_haha]

Geez, you people need to relax. What's up with all the violence? So, a tickle video isn't your cup of tea, move on to one that is and be happy that there are videos out there. I don't know how old you are but there was a time not long ago,where there were no videos or only a few but with non-ticklish women that you had to pay $60 and up. Now there's M/F, F/F, F/M, M/M and multiple lee's and ler's. You can buy clips for less than $7 and if you can't find one out there by now, you have issues... and it seems there are some, with all this talk of "punching people" because you don't like there tickling tastes. Get a grip. I'm hoping they're just kidding.

Come on, everybody. "All we are saying, is give tickling a chance"

Word.

~FTKL

 

[baubaloo]

I think even if you only tickle feet, there should be bondge. I mean I don't feel it's pointless. It may not be as needed, but it is still needed none-the-less...

My 2 cents...