PRODUCERS!!!! Model recruiting idea--Myspace referrals

[jkb]

This is an idea I've been sitting on for awhile on how to recruit models. The reason I've waited so long is because I'm sure many will find it invasive and controversial, but I don't think it really has to be so.

Many of our esteemed tickle producers have Myspace, and many pretty girls have Myspace (and Facebook). And we all have Myspace (and Facebook). So why don't we all chip in and help them find lees?

Simply put, if we see a girl who's really pretty, we could send a producer a link to their page. We could use this thread to post links, or we could PM specific producers so as to not have a link to a girl's page floating around for all to see. It would be best to be mindful of the girl's location and the producer's location. For example, if you're recommending a girl in NYC, send her link to a producer that operates in NYC.

From there, producers could send a the girl (if they so choose) a message on Myspace, Facebook, or whatever other networking site a message offering her work. It doesn't have to be invasive and harassing; on the contrary, it is in the mutual best interests of the producer, the girl, and the community at large for the message to be polite, professional, and descriptive. After all, the producers are essentially business owners and this would simply be an attempt to contact a potential client.

A proper message would run something along the lines of "Greetings. I was browsing Myspace and came across your profile. I run a business that produces tickle fetish videos and would like to know if you are willing to model for us." Producers, put a link on your own Myspace that leads to your clips4sale store (don't put it in the message, or else the girl would be inclined--quite justifiably--to believe that it's only a spam message with a link containing a virus), as well as sample videos on your page to allow the potential model to see that your business is legit as well as to see what exactly it would entail. Mention payment as and if appropriate (I don't know much about that sort of thing), say that shoots take place in a relaxing, friendly atmosphere, mention that any specific needs she has can be accommodated if possible, so on and so forth. If she accepts your offer, then great! If not, you thank her for your time and let her know that should she change her mind, you would be happy to do business with her. And of course, remember to mind your spelling and grammar; these are supposed to be professional in their appearance.

Many of you might think this is harassing and invasive, but I don't think so; at least, not if we all conduct our affairs in a business-like and professional manner. I think this is a good idea. A really good model seems to come around once every so often, but this way we can increase the chances of actually seeing a girl we REALLY like, if only slightly. I freely admit that I have a few female friends on Myspace that I would die to see tickled (this being the reason I'm posting this message), and this is better than waiting around for a slightly above-average-looking girl to discover the wonderful world of tickling on her own (even though I'm well aware of how small the chances of seeing any one specific girl in a future video actually is). Not only that, but it could raise people's awareness of our underground fetish and help bring tickling into the mainstream, especially if people see it as an industry of courteous, professional business owners rather than perverted sleazebags trying to cop a feel on some college girls.

So what do y'all say? Is this a good idea that we should all jump on? I honestly believe it could really help producers find good models, if only a little bit. So does anybody have any Facebook/Myspace/etc. profile links they want to post, even in a PM to certain producers?

 

[LD_Tickler]

Girls on social networking sites aren't there to be solicited by fetish movie producers.

Not to mention, no matter how politely you word it, people could easily feel harassed by this, or at least, creeped out. Could cause trouble for the producers.

 

[KrazieDog]

I personally don't think it's a good idea at all. Enough creepy people cruise the social sites, just to hit on, perv on, or ask questions of, even from the tickling community, just to get their jollies off. Granted its the creeps, but last thing I want is anyone from here hitting up my nieces or sister in law, or sending producers their way, just because they are pretty.

Some well known producers here already use the sites to contact people who are into modeling, or fetish modeling to do this kind of work, so yea they've had the idea already. Contacting scores of girls out there simply on the basis they are pretty in my opinion only makes it that much harder to convince anyone it's mainstream and not creepy. Do you even see all the dare videos on youtube and myspace that wanks challenge these girls to do? And they don't stop at the innocent stuff either. It's come to a point a lot of people are putting in their profiles "stop asking me to do tickling/foot videos, it's creepy". But that doesn't stop them from continuing to ask them. More people, even polite people asking them to do it on film to be distributed is not going to help the issue.

I am not taking a shot at you at all, and respect the time you put into the suggestion. I'm just offering my opinion on it.

 

[Adam]

Nothing against you, but I have to agree with the guys on this one. I don't feel this is a good idea. Nothing wrong with sending an inquiry to those that advertise being available for work, but not some random gal just wanting to keep in touch with her friends.

 

[rhiannon]

I also don't think that is a good idea! The majority will feel harrassed, maybe even insulted!

There are plenty of platforms on the internet where models available for that kind of stuff are registered, you don't have to contact girls on social networks! And why would you? I have never had the impression that the producers have a model-shortage!

Plus, I think you could even get kicked out of myspace for something like that!

 

[The Last Laugh]

Many of you might think this is harassing and invasive, but I don't think so; at least, not if we all conduct our affairs in a business-like and professional manner. I think this is a good idea.

I'm sorry to say that, like the other people who've replied so far, I also don't think it's a good idea, for the same reasons they (and you, for that matter) have mentioned. I'm sure many of these girls would find it quite creepy and insulting, even if it were done in a professional manner. After all, we're talking about fetish material, here. It's meant for arousal. Put even more bluntly, people jerk off to it. Most people are, understandably, put off by the idea.

Contacting models on modeling sites is one thing. It's not ideal, and obviously, most of the models don't have fetish videos in mind when they become members, but at least they're on those sites hoping to get photo/video gigs. They might not be interested, but if they're reasonably professional and/or open-minded, at least they shouldn't be too offended by such offers (though there are exceptions). Frankly, they should expect to get such offers from time to time. On the other hand, most people on MySpace aren't interested in modeling work, especially of the fetish kind. They're just there to keep in touch with friends, to share their thoughts and pictures, etc. Contacting them with fetish video offers is indeed invasive, and wouldn't do much to improve the reputation of ticklephiles and fetishists in general. I wouldn't entirely blame them for being annoyed, or even freaked out.

Besides which, in my experience, most people are irresponsible and unreliable to some extent. People on modeling sites may not all be professionals, but they're still more likely to keep in touch and to show up at shoots than the average person, including MySpace members. A few of the latter might express interest at first, but more often than not it's a passing whim, and they eventually change their mind after thinking about it some more or mentioning it to a friend, boyfriend or family member, who often talk them out of it. One might get lucky, but it would be a rare occurrence, and overall I don't think it's worth all the wasted time and frustration. Believe me, it's the same thing when trying to get models through ads. I prefer slightly more reliable sources of models.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love it if I could use MySpace as a source of models without offending people. You're right, there are tons of cute girls there, a few of which might be interested and ticklish enough. But in practice, it's still not a good idea.

 

[rhiannon]

It's not ideal, and obviously, most of the models don't have fetish videos in mind when they become members, but at least they're on those sites hoping to get photo/video gigs.

On the site I am registered at the models can mark the areas that they are interested in or not. Fetish is also on there. Makes things easier. 🙂

 

[Tissueboy]

In a way its a good idea, I mean its very different to anything tried before. Unfortunately though, many women wouldn't react well to it, and maybe with good reason. I suspect the part a lot of people would have a problem with is users referring them, rather than recieving messages from producers. But yeah I don't think its workable. Just my 2c.

 

[The Last Laugh]

I suspect the part a lot of people would have a problem with is users referring them, rather than recieving messages from producers.

You're right, if anything, it makes it worse. Some girls might resent being referred to a producer without their knowledge or permission. Kind of like being added to a mailing list, and god knows how annoying that can be. Even more so when the context is something that one doesn't approve of, or even finds perverted.

 

[The Last Laugh]

On the site I am registered at the models can mark the areas that they are interested in or not. Fetish is also on there. Makes things easier. 🙂

True. However, while chances of such a model being interested (or at least not offended) are higher than with the average person/model, personally, I like to work with models who don't have fetish experience. It's not really the type I'm looking for, especially since most people associate fetish photography with leather, latex, bondage, BDSM, etc. Not really what I do in my videos. Oh, some of my models do have that sort of experience, but it's just because they tend to be more open-minded and comfortable with alternative/adult stuff. Of course they're more likely to accept. But I don't specifically target them, and overall they're not my first choice. On the other hand, if one prefers to work with actual fetish models, then you're right, such a feature on a modeling site can be very useful indeed, saving a lot of trouble.

 

[rhiannon]

That site is mostly for photography anyways, and yes, Fetish means mostly latex and leather and stuff like that. I suspect very few models on there have even heard about a tickling fetish. Most also have "film", which would include clips, ruled out as an option anyways, most are just available for photos.

 

[Sandrock74]

I think this idea has "Bad" written all over it.

 

[Musicroxmysox]

While I understand your reasoning, since many girls post provocative pictures on those sites, I feel your idea is awful.

Girls do not want to be harassed by producers of any kind and furthermore if producers were harassing them on behalf of our fetish, it would continue to make us appear in a bad light in the mainstream. There is no reason we need to alienate ourselves by harassing young women. It's also presumptious that one would assume all pretty little things want to be models and are ticklish. People don't go on Facebook and Myspace for that reason.

Furthermore I can fully imagine you would be contacting young blonde what nots for your videos. Time and time again we have had threads here expressing interest in showing different kinds of models. Variety is very nice you know. Just my thoughts, but if I were you I would stick to your regular ads where you can find models.

 

[jkb]

You guys got some pretty good points that I didn't even think of. Enough good points to change my opinion. You're right; it's not quite as good an idea as I thought. Thanks at least for being respectful and not assuming I was a pervert who wanted to see some college girls felt up (well, I guess in the end that's what we all want to see, but you know what I mean).

My main motivation for doing this was the fact that there are alot of producers that I felt were fantastic but I never buy their videos because I don't think their models are attractive. Other people may like them but they don't do it for me. And I'm pretty sure I'm not the only that feels this way. So I figured that, instead of sitting around and bitching about it, I (we) could make myself (ourselves) useful and help out a bit. Like I said, felt like a good idea at the time.

Again, I put that down so you guys don't get the wrong idea about what I was trying to do.

 

[lemoncake]

This post really bothers me. That's not professional at all. It just sounds very creepy. There's enough creeps on Myspace as is, don't add to it, women hate that. This sounds like weird stalking. I mean, I'd be mad if some forum was posting my myspace all over their site, judging my photos. Just cause some girl is hot or cute, doesn't mean she wants to be tickled or become a tickle model. Keep it to the fantasy section of your brain. There's a ton of more creative ways to market your business and recruit models. You just have to put out the extra work to make it happen.

Alsp, you don't know how old some of these girls really are. Its easy to say that you are 18 on myspace, and really be underage.

Next, all you need is one weirdo sending a "referral message" to a model that has the typical, "you haz feet, tickle pleasezz" and you are screwed. Are you going to sit and edit and police everyone's messages? Not everyone writes the same or is able to be professional when they write. Who knows if they would keep writing them or harassing them?

 

[rhiannon]

My main motivation for doing this was the fact that there are alot of producers that I felt were fantastic but I never buy their videos because I don't think their models are attractive.

Well, in that case the Myspace-Plan would not solve that problem at all! It's all a matter of taste - you would pick out models that YOU find attractive, but maybe nobody else would, and the clip wouldn't sell. You can never make everybody happy when it comes to looks.

Plus - I don't see why you don't find the models attractive that are available! Most are what is generally looked upon as attractive!

 

[ViperGTS]

Use ModelMayhem, not MySpace or Facebook. That is the wrong place to solicit women for adult videos.

 

[jkb]

This post really bothers me. That's not professional at all. It just sounds very creepy. There's enough creeps on Myspace as is, don't add to it, women hate that. This sounds like weird stalking. I mean, I'd be mad if some forum was posting my myspace all over their site, judging my photos. Just cause some girl is hot or cute, doesn't mean she wants to be tickled or become a tickle model. Keep it to the fantasy section of your brain. There's a ton of more creative ways to market your business and recruit models. You just have to put out the extra work to make it happen.

Alsp, you don't know how old some of these girls really are. Its easy to say that you are 18 on myspace, and really be underage.

Next, all you need is one weirdo sending a "referral message" to a model that has the typical, "you haz feet, tickle pleasezz" and you are screwed. Are you going to sit and edit and police everyone's messages? Not everyone writes the same or is able to be professional when they write. Who knows if they would keep writing them or harassing them?

Well, like I said, it wasn't supposed to be creepy or anything like that. I just didn't realize how bad of an idea it was, alright?

Besides, I mentioned PMing the links to the producers as an alternative to posting them on the forum--back when the idea didn't seem that bad.

 

[The Last Laugh]

Please give him a break, guys. Now that he's read several arguments against the idea and has had time to think about it some more, he clearly understands that it's probably not a good thing to do after all. He didn't mean any harm. Besides, we've all come up with ideas that seemed good at the time but turned out to be mistakes. There's no need to debate it any further.

 

[Adam]

Please give him a break, guys. Now that he's read several arguments against the idea and has had time to think about it some more, he clearly understands that it's probably not a good thing to do after all. He didn't mean any harm. Besides, we've all come up with ideas that seemed good at the time but turned out to be mistakes. There's no need to debate it any further.

I harbor no ill will towards the OP, but I feel the need to say the following. People have to understand that you run a big risk of making life uncomfortable for unsuspecting females, subjecting them to message after message from unsavory lurker types. Women on this site, who do understand and enjoy the fetish, don't like being solicited by random guys. Now take that outside of here and do the same thing to someone that has no concept of a tickling fetish. There's no maybe about it... it's a bad idea. I don't want to beat this into the ground, but that point needs to be driven into the skulls of anyone reading this that still may be thinking it's an OK thing to do.

 

[The Last Laugh]

I harbor no ill will towards the OP, but I feel the need to say the following. People have to understand that you run a big risk of making life uncomfortable for unsuspecting females, subjecting them to message after message from unsavory lurker types. Women on this site, who do understand and enjoy the fetish, don't like being solicited by random guys. Now take that outside of here and do the same thing to someone that has no concept of a tickling fetish. There's no maybe about it... it's a bad idea. I don't want to beat this into the ground, but that point needs to be driven into the skulls of anyone reading this that still may be thinking it's an OK thing to do.

I'm just saying that the OP understands that now. Everything important about the issue has already been said many times here, and adding more to this thread serves no purpose.

 

[Bagelfather]

This is an idea I've been sitting on for awhile on how to recruit models. The reason I've waited so long is because I'm sure many will find it invasive and controversial, but I don't think it really has to be so.

Many of our esteemed tickle producers have Myspace, and many pretty girls have Myspace (and Facebook). And we all have Myspace (and Facebook). So why don't we all chip in and help them find lees?

1) If you solicited models who, in their profile, stated they were adult and/or fetish models you probably could get away with it without being creepy.

2) Beware of underage boys/girls pretending to be 18 and the laws in the US about soliciting underage people. I'm not sure how federal guidelines handle that sort of thing when they misrepresent age.

 

[gig1965]

Good way to end up on the 11:00 news

 

[jkb]

Good way to end up on the 11:00 news

*sigh*

Now that he's read several arguments against the idea and has had time to think about it some more, he clearly understands that it's probably not a good thing to do after all. He didn't mean any harm. Besides, we've all come up with ideas that seemed good at the time but turned out to be mistakes. There's no need to debate it any further.

Everything important about the issue has already been said many times here, and adding more to this thread serves no purpose.

 

[rhiannon]

Somtimes I think people just read the first post of a thread and then just answer to it without reading what other people already posted!!