Provoking someone into tickling

[LD_Tickler]

Yeah, but would the person still go along with it if they knew it's a turn-on? I think a lot of people think it is something totally harmless among friends and would not expect sexual overtones. Therefore, they do not realize what they consent to!

I don't agree, I think most people recognize potentially flirty underpinnings with tickling. Poking, squeezing, touching? It's hard to get around. You therefore don't consent to turn the person on, but you consent to take the risk.

If I flirt my way out of something, the person will realize immediately what I am doing!

Or maybe they won't. You're playing off their feelings to get what you want. Same with acting super friendly to a boss. We use people all the time.

Another example:
There are people with hair fetishes. It would piss me off really bad if I found out my hairstylist had one!

I recognize why it would make you uncomfortable, you fully have that right. But I don't think they've done anything reprehensible. A person who has a hair fetish shouldn't be forbidden to be a hair stylist.

 

[rhiannon]

I don't agree, I think most people recognize potentially flirty underpinnings with tickling. Poking, squeezing, touching? It's hard to get around. You therefore don't consent to turn the person on, but you consent to take the risk.

I have seen girl friends tickle each other quite frequently - and I do not think there was anything flirty about it at all!

Or maybe they won't. You're playing off their feelings to get what you want. Same with acting super friendly to a boss. We use people all the time.

I never act super friendly to a boss. If I don't like someone, the person will definitely realize. I am not a very good actress!

I recognize why it would make you uncomfortable, you fully have that right. But I don't think they've done anything reprehensible. A person who has a hair fetish shouldn't be forbidden to be a hair stylist.

I work in a place where even putting the hand on someone's shoulder can be considered sexual harrassment. I can imagine that if something like that was actually the case - especially in the states - there would be a big complaint about it, if it didn't go to court!

 

[LD_Tickler]

I have seen girl friends tickle each other quite frequently - and I do not think there was anything flirty about it at all!

Are these girls lesbians, or bisexual? If not, then the idea of reasonable expectation which I keep talking about is irrelevant.

I can imagine that if something like that was actually the case - especially in the states - there would be a big complaint about it, if it didn't go to court!

Being turned on is not a crime, nor is failing to announce to people when you are. I'd like to see exactly how that would go to court.

 

[rhiannon]

They are not lesbian and not bisexual. I think you link tickling to sex and flirting way too much, for the big majority of the population it just is playful fun or something they do to annoy each other.

Being turned on is not a crime, nor is failing to announce to people when you are. I'd like to see exactly how that would go to court.

If somebody realizes and sues for sexual harrassment/assault for example! I've seen it happen, not in connection with tickling or hair, but for equally harmless stuff!

 

[LD_Tickler]

They are not lesbian and not bisexual. I think you link tickling to sex and flirting way too much, for the big majority of the population it just is playful fun or something they do to annoy each other.

I think you're misunderstanding me. My point is, tickling between your straight, same-sex friends is a different story, because none of them would expect it to be sexual for the other. Tickling between two straight people of opposite genders (ie, my experiences that we were talking about earlier) is likely to be flirty, and frequently is. My point is that expectation is key.

If somebody realizes and sues for sexual harrassment/assault for example! I've seen it happen, not in connection with tickling or hair, but for equally harmless stuff!

Such as? Where is the harassment in the legal sense? A hairstylist touching your hair is not harassment. You can't control, or prosecute, people's feelings. That could never go to court.

 

[JS805]

Sometimes I read around here that there are people who provoke their friends/acquaintances until they tickle the person, or they grab someone to tickle them playfully.

Now, me being someone who considers tickling something sexual, I am thinking - wouldn't that be sexual assault?

Not in any United States jurisdiction.

 

[TheTickleMonster]

i think you're thinking too much about this... and then when someone else gives you their opinion of the situation, you counter that to try to prove that their opinion is wrong and like you already have your mind made up that it's wrote to try to provoke tickle fights and you want people to talk about their opinions so you can argue with them and expand on what you said to try to prove that what they think is wrong or something..

 

[rhiannon]

I am kinda trying to make you understand my point of view! That's all. But never mind.