Question About Honesty

[Tamia78]

you mean you aren't a white tiger tam. how disappointing..

I like how you have that human beside you..what? huh? oh , she is the human?! Ohhhhhhh.......boy do I feel sheepish.

No, Ticklerguy, I'm not the white tiger......the "white tiger tickling fetish" room is down the hall ------------> 😉
And speaking of sheep......

 

[inthenameoffun2]

Thanks for the replies.

Thanks for the replies.
I did not expect this to get out of hand and never intended on saying any names. If anyone has said their name or admitted to who they are in the post, yes that takes guts. Yet, if noticed I said there is more than one person. I'm not out to upset anyone, I was asking because I am tied of as I say ( being played ) by those that say one thing and then do another. Maybe it is because I answer all my PMs ( not like I will get many now ) lol, because I feel that if someone spent the time to type it out, then at least I can reply. My point to this was why does it happen? Not to say hey I did it, so I'm a bad person. Please just like it was said, someone had 1 or a few bads days, we all do and I had one where I was tired of well being played. If anyone is not going to reply then they should not post a reply or start one becuase it will look like that your just brushing someone off. From what I have read here, many do take things here on the TMF more personal that I have on this issue.This is what I feel and thats why I asked the question, gave an example but again, did not use and will never use any names. Also, about the event that was mentioned, by the one who said who she is. There was more than 1 PM, and few IM's in yahoo. Yes I waited for a while and this has happened before with the same person. Then later I'm spoken to as if nothing ever happened.... To all that have answered, thank you. Nope not interested in a bridge or a tunnel at this time. I live in California, remember we were to fall off back in the 80's so I already bought my bridge, never though about the tunnel. Many have said some interesteing things and thanks again. Yes I am an honest person, so I guess I need to remember where I am, and not everyone is who they say they are even if you have spoken to them on the phone or how ever you have had conversations with them. But there are many here that are honest, and those are the ones that make things fun in this forum. Thanks again for the replies.

 

[Ticklerguy4u]

No, Ticklerguy, I'm not the white tiger......the "white tiger tickling fetish" room is down the hall ------------> 😉
And speaking of sheep......

Wow, I started the joke but now I think I just became the butt of it..

 

[Tamia78]

Wow, I started the joke but now I think I just became the butt of it..

TeeHee!

and THAT, folks, is what we call Irony!

Ticklerguy, you're still cool to me, tho!

 

[isabeau]

to clarify what inthenameoffun said about more than one pm... when he posted this thread, he had only sent me one pm. and that one i didnt reply to.... there were other pms in the past that i didnt reply to but eventually did. but when he wrote this post, he had only sent me one pm and i dont always have my yahoo turned on. now this is my last post in this thread.

isabeau

 

[Tamia78]

to clarify what inthenameoffun said about more than one pm... when he posted this thread, he had only sent me one pm. and that one i didnt reply to.... there were other pms in the past that i didnt reply to but eventually did. but when he wrote this post, he had only sent me one pm and i dont always have my yahoo turned on. now this is my last post in this thread.

isabeau

Izz.....lol, you said your last post was your last post...lol

 

[drew70]

The first thing that went through my mind when I saw the title of this thread was "I wonder how many honest answers will result from this honest question."

This is an old story on this forum. A couple of people PM each other. One loses interest for whatever reason. The other gets feelings hurt and airs the drama in the public forum, hoping for nothing more than to get the one's attention. Sometimes it works.

 

[inthenameoffun2]

The first thing that went through my mind when I saw the title of this thread was "I wonder how many honest answers will result from this honest question."

This is an old story on this forum. A couple of people PM each other. One loses interest for whatever reason. The other gets feelings hurt and airs the drama in the public forum, hoping for nothing more than to get the one's attention. Sometimes it works.

Good point.
Not what I was after, but yes I see how that looks like that is what I was trying to do. I have read other post that does remind me of this old story. I was asking for help in understanding, and WOW did I get some help, (well from some), lol. I did think the same thing, " How many will reply honestly from an honest question" Nope feeling were not hurt. Just tied of this happening. By more than one person ( for anyone who thinks I'm picking on them ) Wonderful replies from many.

 

[Furion]

Hmm..

Just because you send someone a PM doesn't mean they are obligated to answer it. REmember you're the one who decided to impugn on their privacy, not the other way around.

By your logic you have to answer every call on your phone, answer your door everytime someone knocks on it, and answer every piece of mail you are sent, including junk mail.

 

[Knox The Hatter]

And, just because certain individuals post things, it doesn't mean that I have to read them...

 

[Furion]

Lol!!!!

And, just because certain individuals post things, it doesn't mean that I have to read them...

 

[inthenameoffun2]

Just because you send someone a PM doesn't mean they are obligated to answer it. REmember you're the one who decided to impugn on their privacy, not the other way around.

By your logic you have to answer every call on your phone, answer your door everytime someone knocks on it, and answer every piece of mail you are sent, including junk mail.

Your forgetting something, an agreement was made.. Then nothing back after a attempting to see if all was ok or not?? Now if I make an agreement to answer my door or my phone or even the junk mail then I do that, becuase I said I would. If I could not or unable too or not interested, I would have let them know. Also, I never said who this was, and I never used any names, so how did I (impugn) on anyones privacy??? This is not ment to get out of hand and I know where your coming from, I just hope you understand me?? If not, hey thats cool I did not expect all to understand and yes I did expect a little interesting comments too.

 

[Ticklerguy4u]

TeeHee!

and THAT, folks, is what we call Irony!

Ticklerguy, you're still cool to me, tho!

Im cool..she said Im cool.

😎 😎 😎 😎 😎

 

[Furion]

Your forgetting something, an agreement was made.. Then nothing back after a attempting to see if all was ok or not?? Now if I make an agreement to answer my door or my phone or even the junk mail then I do that, becuase I said I would. If I could not or unable too or not interested, I would have let them know. Also, I never said who this was, and I never used any names, so how did I (impugn) on anyones privacy??? This is not ment to get out of hand and I know where your coming from, I just hope you understand me?? If not, hey thats cool I did not expect all to understand and yes I did expect a little interesting comments too.

Was a contract written?

You stated if you send someone a PM they are obligated to answer out of politeness. Sorry that's not true. No one is obligated to answer ANY PM regardless of any agreement. Last I checked it wasn't in the forum rules.

It's childish to think otherwise and it was extremely childish to bring up private issues in a public forum

Besides aren't you supposedly happily married?? No I do not understand you, and if I ever start thinking, I see where this guy is coming from I hope someone shoots me.

 

[slacker2114]

**loads up the shotgun, just in case**

 

[Furion]

Hey!!

**loads up the shotgun, just in case**

🙂 Just make sure you don't cock it yet!! I'm not thinking at inthenameoffun2 selfish level yet!

 

[inthenameoffun2]

Was a contract written?

You stated if you send someone a PM they are obligated to answer out of politeness. Sorry that's not true. No one is obligated to answer ANY PM regardless of any agreement. Last I checked it wasn't in the forum rules.

It's childish to think otherwise and it was extremely childish to bring up private issues in a public forum

Besides aren't you supposedly happily married?? No I do not understand you, and if I ever start thinking, I see where this guy is coming from I hope someone shoots me.

I see where your coming from, but I do not recall saying that it is an obligation, I thought I said we had made an agreement. To me thats differant and again, if you not able to make it happen then a littrle note saying whatever makes it all good, thats all, It called being polite. But then again I have come to understand that not everyone is but when you have spoken and you think your getting along, I would think that a relpy again is nice to do. Hey your cool with your opinons, but please to call me childish?? Ok I expected that and well hey enjoy your opinon. I asked a question and I have some cool and nice replies. Funny thing there was NO written agreement to anyone here to reply but yet they have, just like you have. Funny thing is that you do not have to understand me and I'm glad I do not understand you. Because if I did, maybe I would ask my Fellow Steelers Fan with the bear, if he would not mind playing William Tell.......

 

[Mastertank1]

It's called reality; what a concept.

People walk into a store, ask them to order a special item they normally don't carry, then change their mind and want the deposit back. If they're a regular, the store does it.
Someone makes a definite appointment to hire a bodyguard to meet them at a given time and place to work for X number of hours, then they don't show up.
It happens all the time, in business and personal matters, in every walk of life.
The people weren't being dishonest, they either changed their minds or had their minds changed for them by circumstances. They had a bad day. They found out they didn't need the product. They no longer needed to come into NYC and visit a dangerous part of town.
This does not make them dishonest; it makes them ordinary humans subject to mood swings and the emotionless, mindless battering administered by blind circumstance.
Who hasn't had a day, or a week, or a month, or a year when they just didn't feel capable of coherently communicating with anyone, and so they didn't try, or a time when they felt so down or emotionally fragile or highly strung that they just had to put anything that might generate a negative vibe on hold until they were able to cope with it better?
Izzy, please; I don't think anyone on TMF ever judges you as harshly as you judge yourself. You are entirely too ready to believe that people think badly of you, when very few of us ever do. It seems to me that Tickled2death was simply bewildered that you thought he had called you a liar. It seemed clear to me that he had no such intention.
Your innocent heart is always accepting blame when no one is offering any. You are not a bad person, Izz; that's my job. You want my union to picket for job infringement?
Mastertank1

We who play and dance are thought mad by they who hear no music.

 

[inthenameoffun2]

People walk into a store, ask them to order a special item they normally don't carry, then change their mind and want the deposit back. If they're a regular, the store does it.
Someone makes a definite appointment to hire a bodyguard to meet them at a given time and place to work for X number of hours, then they don't show up.
It happens all the time, in business and personal matters, in every walk of life.
The people weren't being dishonest, they either changed their minds or had their minds changed for them by circumstances. They had a bad day. They found out they didn't need the product. They no longer needed to come into NYC and visit a dangerous part of town.
This does not make them dishonest; it makes them ordinary humans subject to mood swings and the emotionless, mindless battering administered by blind circumstance.
Who hasn't had a day, or a week, or a month, or a year when they just didn't feel capable of coherently communicating with anyone, and so they didn't try, or a time when they felt so down or emotionally fragile or highly strung that they just had to put anything that might generate a negative vibe on hold until they were able to cope with it better?
Izzy, please; I don't think anyone on TMF ever judges you as harshly as you judge yourself. You are entirely too ready to believe that people think badly of you, when very few of us ever do. It seems to me that Tickled2death was simply bewildered that you thought he had called you a liar. It seemed clear to me that he had no such intention.
Your innocent heart is always accepting blame when no one is offering any. You are not a bad person, Izz; that's my job. You want my union to picket for job infringement?
Mastertank1

We who play and dance are thought mad by they who hear no music.

That was well said. I think that was the best way for this issue to be explained.

 

[Mz Chaos]

Ok, now that my eyeballs stopped spinning from trying to keep track of all the 'we's and 'I's, lemme take a shot at this...

Sometimes, for whatever reason(s), when someone sets up a meeting of one sort or another online, things do come up. And then, because they missed the set time, they feel too embarassed to answer for whatever the reason is. Others sometimes have second thoughts for one reason or another and simply decide not to respond any longer.

And then, sometimes, some people are just plain rude jackasses.

Hope that gave you some insight.

Well, I would be one of the rude jackasses

As I mentioned before in a different thread... coming from parents who had me so late in life, I was raised with values and traditions from their era. Therefore, I find it difficult to converse with folks who are brutally, immediately honest about what they are there to talk about in PM's or on Chat.
Now, while I have been able to flex and stretch some of those values and traditions and modify them to suit the times, there are some that are just so rooted that they won't budge.
Before I go further, because I don't want to ruffle any feathers, let me say that I have been in chat rooms, been on other forums, I even play an online game... through these I have met great people from all walks of life and from so many different and wonderful foreign countries. I have also been witness to the way people talk to each other as well as myself in the age of the internet (as a writer... this is great for bettering dialogue and learning new slang). In these conversations, I have realized, that a majority of these people are speaking to each other, out in the open, about things which I was taught should be said in private... and only to those with which you are intimate.
I have become used to that, I'm not shocked anymore when I see these conversations, and even enjoy the banter these things generate. That is all good for those folk... however... it is not good for me. (I do, after I get to know a person better, get a bit more free in my talks with them.)
When I first start chatting with someone... I look for three things... politeness, sense of humor and intelligence. It's only three things and to me they make all the difference in a first impression.
With that being said... when I am approached in PM's, chats and voice chats, this person at the other end thinks I am probably "with it," that I am used to these open conversations and like most am probably comfortable with it. And without hesitation blurt right out with what they came to say. Be it about tickling or sex. I can't really say it shocks me so much as... disappoints me. To think that this other person doesn't really care much beyond what gratification I may give them by engaging in intimate talks.
But, at least these gentlemen are very clear as to what they want to talk about, and I admire them for their honesty...
Not too long ago, I told a friend of mine, "It seems like the women have stopped acting like ladies for so long, that men are forgetting how to treat them like ladies."
(Now, before I get all kinds of hate mail from the fellas... I do not mean ALL men. As a matter of fact, most of the fellows I have met in here are complete gentlemen.) But...
Welcome to my world.
So... here's where the jackass part comes in... betcha didn't think I'd ever get around to that did ya? ...
When these more open gentlemen engage me in such conversations... they get out about 3 to 4 sentences and I put them on ignore... I don't even have the courtesy to tell them, "thank you but I'm not really comfortable talking about this." Immediate ignore. I guess maybe I just don't want to get into any kind of confrontation and saying that would provoke one. I dunno. But I do know, it makes me one of the jackasses.
To those of you I have done this to... I have no excuse... I am a worm.

 

[Tamia78]

So... here's where the jackass part comes in... betcha didn't think I'd ever get around to that did ya? ...
When these more open gentlemen engage me in such conversations... they get out about 3 to 4 sentences and I put them on ignore... I don't even have the courtesy to tell them, "thank you but I'm not really comfortable talking about this." Immediate ignore. I guess maybe I just don't want to get into any kind of confrontation and saying that would provoke one. I dunno. But I do know, it makes me one of the jackasses.
To those of you I have done this to... I have no excuse... I am a worm.

I'm sorry......exactly WHERE does the jackass part come in? You are doing what is best for you, which is to avoid further conflict, by simply ignoring them, and hoping that these guys take the hint, which, obviously, they don't. I think you did exactly what you should have done, no excuses needed.
--T

 

[Ticklerguy4u]

This is why I am a firm believer in the "Sadie Hawkin's Dance"

 

[slacker2114]

This is why I am a firm believer in the "Sadie Hawkin's Dance"

what the hell is the Sadie Hawkins Dance?

 

[Tamia78]

what the hell is the Sadie Hawkins Dance?

Slacker,
Whenever someone refers to "Sadie Hawkins", they refer to the women asking the men out.

 

[slacker2114]

Ah, thanks hon. So......when do I get to do the Sadie hawkins dance? Ladies?