R rated tickle talk

[Tidas]

Sometimes when i'm being tickled i'll let a naughty word or two slip out if one of my nuclear spots gets tickled, but I never direct it at the person. I don't really like being mean to people, especially when I am tied up and at their mercy. 😉

 

[Adam]

Teasing - yes. Insulting - no. Big no-go! In my eyes a lack of respect and total turn-off!

I totally agree. Teasing can be a big turn-on for both the 'ler and the 'lee, but it's good not to go too far with it and turn it into degrading stuff. Then again, some people like that, so whatever floats your boat.

 

[LD_Tickler]

I think it's interesting that people are referring to this kind of name calling as "humiliation."

I really don't see that as humiliating, more like violence. Which for some of us, is ultimately what it's all about.

 

[Deleted member 66627]

I think it's interesting that people are referring to this kind of name calling as "humiliation."

I really don't see that as humiliating, more like violence. Which for some of us, is ultimately what it's all about.

It's incredibly humiliating to be called such things as "*****" or "dirty girl", ect. It's not necessarily violent since the context it's being used in is for use in a scene. If it was outside of a scene, then the "emotional violent" factors moreso come into play.

You've got to be able to distinguish the two. Not being able to is what causes issues for the person recieving the humiliation and for the one giving in. It's not supposed to be earnest during play, so thus it's humiliation. Outside of play it can be viewed as violent.

 

[LD_Tickler]

It's incredibly humiliating to be called such things as "*****" or "dirty girl", ect. It's not necessarily violent since the context it's being used in is for use in a scene. If it was outside of a scene, then the "emotional violent" factors moreso come into play.

You've got to be able to distinguish the two. Not being able to is what causes issues for the person recieving the humiliation and for the one giving in. It's not supposed to be earnest during play, so thus it's humiliation. Outside of play it can be viewed as violent.

I don't buy that distinction:

Humiliation can be real, as in involuntary, or played. Violence can be real or played too, as in the case of actually torturing somebody or doing so in the context of a willing session.

A tickle torture session is deliberately and willingly accessed physical violence, just like verbal abuse in this context would be deliberately and willingly accessed violence of another sort.

In conclusion, I don't think you can say that humiliation is a matter of play, and violence a matter of real life. Both can be used in both contexts.

 

[Deleted member 66627]

I see what you're saying. Humiliation can and is a very real factor of life. But there are differences.

You don't stab a person and say, "oops! Just playing!" -- There's a difference in 'violent' scening. The velocity and meaning ARE different. If you call someone a name during a scene, then it's going to get a difference response then if it was you calling them a name out of spite.

 

[LD_Tickler]

I see what you're saying. Humiliation can and is a very real factor of life. But there are differences.

You don't stab a person and say, "oops! Just playing!" -- There's a difference in 'violent' scening. The velocity and meaning ARE different. If you call someone a name during a scene, then it's going to get a difference response then if it was you calling them a name out of spite.

The difference is that during a session they won't truly be offended and hate you forever. It's still violent, it's just consensual. Like boxing.

 

[Deleted member 66627]

The difference is that during a session they won't truly be offended and hate you forever. It's still violent, it's just consensual. Like boxing.

It's also humiliating. Like getting pantsed in public.

 

[LD_Tickler]

It's also humiliating. Like getting pantsed in public.

So you're saying verbal abuse in a session is both violent and humiliating, then?

I still don't see the humiliation, that's what I don't understand. Being forced to crawl around on all fours or something might be humiliating, but I don't see why being called a harsh name would be. You haven't done anything warranting shame.

 

[Deleted member 66627]

So you're saying verbal abuse in a session is both violent and humiliating, then?

I still don't see the humiliation, that's what I don't understand. Being forced to crawl around on all fours or something might be humiliating, but I don't see why being called a harsh name would be. You haven't done anything warranting shame.

I don't see it as verbal abuse, because of the context it's being used in. I also don't see it as violent. I *do* see it as humiliating.

Your opinions on things humiliating differ slightly from mine (and most other folks). Some folks might view being forced to crawl on all fours as humbling. I agree that it's humiliating.

Some folks might feel that being told to hold Prone while their Dom/me plays with them is humiliating, or humbling. It all depends on the mindset and personality.

 

[LD_Tickler]

Your opinions on things humiliating differ slightly from mine (and most other folks). Some folks might view being forced to crawl on all fours as humbling. I agree that it's humiliating.

Some folks might feel that being told to hold Prone while their Dom/me plays with them is humiliating, or humbling. It all depends on the mindset and personality.

Fair enough, I guess.

Based on what you're saying, I'm guessing you'd disagree with me that a consensual tickle torture session is violent?

 

[Deleted member 66627]

How do you feel it's violent? I'm intrigued. Honest.

 

[LD_Tickler]

I'd argue that violence is whatever inflicts itself upon somebody's passive, contented state, in a way that disrupts that contentment. Tickle torture does this in the physical realm, harsh language does it in the emotional.

I DON'T think that whether or not it's consensual determines if it's violent. I think consent obviously matters in judging the implications of violence, like whether or not it's criminal, but I think it's perfectly possible to have consensual violence.

 

[dskodj]

It depends on the person, personally I like it myself.

off subject and not ment to thread hijak, but slaver..was just looking/reading on this thread and couldnt help notice the vid in your sig, so i checked it out and DAMN, i never did like the original version of that by syreeta and billy preston..but that lynda + tom jones version is SOLID! LOVE IT!! just had to comment!

but now since i posted in this thread to keep on subject, ill add..depends on the situation. if we're role playing, then yes, i use that kinda talk. if its just basic tickle kinky play, then no..unless whoever the 'lee is really likes it in general.