Real, Unfaked, Tickling TORTURE

[Dirkman]

In case you forgot I am the dude who hates happy crappy tickling. You know, the "hey lets have fun and tie each other up and tickle each other!", like what is seen in 99% of the tickling videos we all buy.

My preferences are for torturous, nonconsenually plotted videos. I would like all those who are into this sort of thing to try to gang with me here because there doesn't seem to be as many of us as I imagined there would be. For now I will say this: Some of the Bryan Davis vids for Close Up Concepts have some great tickling scenes that are unrehearsed unscripted and are great. Tight Nude Bondage with Tina Marie is fantastic. A few new ones have Darby getting it and she goes nuts.

I would also thank steve from extremetickling.com for telling me about www.insex.com. Insex is a bondage and S&M sight, and quite an amazing one at that. There are tons of vids where the master PD, tickles his submissives while they are in the strictest bondage you can imagine. Some of the clips are quite great. I think another worth mentioning is some of the EZ Ryder stuff. The one with Tami Monroe is awesome, she did not expect to be tickled but man was she ticklish and it was obviously unscripted and she admited to hating it. You can find those at www.fetcat.com look under HomeMaid Video/Welcome to Bondage/B&D Pleasures.

What can you add to the list? Rumor has it that there is a real Sorority Initiation tickling out there which is supposed to be good. And for the vid companies, how about making a little tickling video "film" where there is a kidnap plot, a spy plot, or something out of the thousands of stories floating around on the web with nonconsenual themes? It would be so much more exciting and erotic. Thank you for listening,
The Dirk

 

[TickledToDeath]

I will agree with you on this for sure, Dirk.

While playful tickling is great too, I am partial to the more intense tickling.
Especially in a video. I would rather see real intense,ruthless, relentless tickle torture than the cutsie stuff most often produced.


TTD

 

[amk714]

Yes, Dirk, I think your idea is great. I love any kind of tickling, and there are so many stories these nonconsensual videos could be based on. Seeing victims tied up, get interrogated, tickle-tortured, and having them escape and turn the tables on their tormentors would be so cool, not to mention highly arousing. If that sorority initiation video does exist, I'd love to see that, though I admit it does sound too good to be true, but one can always hope! 😀

 

[BellaRisa]

Question for Dirkman

Hi,

As a once and future video producer, I'd like to know if a video has to be nonconsensual to be sufficiently intense. See, I loathe the phony vids as much as you guys, but I also dislike anything noncon. When I play as a ticklee, we play HARD and for hours-by the time we're done I barely know my own name and I usually go home with purple bruises on my sides and tummy. And as a 'ler, I've been told I'm one of the more ruthless ladies out there. Still, anyone involved is willing and knows what to expect beforehand. Can a video with a willing yet masochistic (for tickling anyway) 'lee be as good for you as one where the victim wants to beat your head in when she gets loose? Thanks!

Bella










Now now..play nice Bella...lol. Q

 

[amk714]

Purple bruises, Bella?

Isn't that going a little TOO far?

P.S. Why is your post taking up so much (empty) space?

 

[BellaRisa]

Yup, purple bruises, amk714

Isn't that going a little TOO far?

P.S. Why is your post taking up so much (empty) space?

Not too far at all, if you're talking truly intense and extended tickling. Tiny, fingertip shaped bruises can sometimes happen when I play for hours over a weekend 🙄. They don't hurt at all, though they can be a wee bit sore on Monday.

I have no idea why my post did that, or why the smilies I added didn't show up. Sorry guys.

Bella

 

[kurchatovium]

I think there is something like "a zone" for me. Where the tickling seems to be merciless enough to be exciting and yet not so intense as to appear sick. Thus to me in reality it should be consensual although it may not have to appear that way in the video. I think the crap, happy stuff Dirkman is talking about that you see in almost all CalStar videoes is unacceptable.

 

[redway10]

From an NC, tight bondage fanatic

I have a pretty extensive collection of video clips with tickling in tight bondage and it unfortunately makes up a pretty small amount of the tickling video universe. insex has several scenes, but they nearly always make the tickling a very small part of any scene. I have written to them repeatedly asking for a more substantial tickling scene, but I have never received any kind of reply. I have just about all of their scenes with tickling filed away.

As is mentioned many times elsewhere on this forum, the "sorority initiation" video is produced by KJ of www.ticklepalace.com, who basically had a massive falling out with the management of this forum (he was once a moderator).

KJ is essentially an egomaniac, but his tickling "scenes" (renfaire and others) are probably the most intense and realistic that you can find on the web. However, over the past 5 years, even though he has promised to release some or much of his material on video, he has actually released VERY little. He really has dragged this out to a phenomenal degree (pity).

Recently, a few people did receive the "sorority initiation" video (like BigJim) and they thought it was great. KJ has many more videos of seriously tortorous tickling (nearly all foot tickling), plus bastinado, itching powder, heating, etc. However, don't expect to be able to buy any of these any time soon. KJ likes being the center of attention, but he clearly fears his work being copied and passed around.

Like Dirkman, I hate the fact that not only is tickling a somewhat minor fetish, but truly intense tickle torture is really a small universe.

I hope to see more tickle torture vids, and would like to interact with other like-minded individuals to locate more decent media.

 

[ticklevids]

me too

Dirkman...

You are most definitely not alone.

I feel the same way.

T

 

[BigJim]

Re: Purple bruises, Bella?

P.S. Why is your post taking up so much (empty) space?

Possibly something to do with Q breaking out the invisible ink again. lol

 

[BigJim]

I think I'd like to add my voice to those who like intense tickling here. A video that was just constant torture would soon become a bit banal as you need some variation, but videos where the tickling is slow, boring, apologetic and way too considerate quickly lose their viewing appeal. Even when you get a model who is truly ticklish as hell, it is SO disappointing when she isn't really pushed and just giggles and chortles for 60 minutes.


Check out the poll on entertaining ticklers to find out who the community thinks is best guys.

 

[BellaRisa]

The 'zone '-well said

I think there is something like "a zone" for me. Where the tickling seems to be merciless enough to be exciting and yet not so intense as to appear sick. Thus to me in reality it should be consensual although it may not have to appear that way in the video. I think the crap, happy stuff Dirkman is talking about that you see in almost all CalStar videoes is unacceptable.

I like the way you describe the 'zone', kurchatovium, and that's a great way to explain what happens when those of us who are actually love being tickled do a hardcore session 😎.

So far, I've honestly not seen a 'nonconsensual' video that I found believable. For one thing, personal experience has taught me that truly ticklish people cannot act 😀. Really-the only two Calstar videos that I like have acting that makes you want to kill yourself. Also, not one girl that I've ever seen held down and tickled against her will really laughed. They swore, fought, and/or cried, but not one giggle came forth. Some scratching and biting was occasionally involved. Then, once they were loose, they often tried to use the tickler's eyeballs for dice and gave him a higher voice for a few hours . Having said that, I do like the idea of sorority initiation, because she may not like it but she's knowingly accepted it as her fate-that's kinda cool and speaks to my submissive side.

I think the current task at hand for video companies is to find young ladies (and guys) that can take one helluva tickling without being tricked into it. I know they're out there...

Bella

Bella

😱 😎

 

[kenny]

tickling vids

hey bella just so you know i contactwed silver cherry one time because i am a truly ticklish guy who is dying to be in a video they looked at my picture and said they liked it and want to use me in one of there 2 girls on one guy tickling videos and then i never heard from them,so id love to find a video company that would love to have a truly ticklish guy tied up and tickled by one or two women

 

[Deleted member 2452]

while sadistic tickle torture isn't my cup of tea...

... i do understand the dislike of the fake, and campy tickling in many videos.

have you seen the videos on the ticklehell site? i think they might be more along the lines of what you are seeking.

i would have liked to see the tickling go further in many of the videos i have bought, but alas, the producers don't think they can get to indepth w/o loosing the model for future videos.

the idea of good scenarios involving tickling i.e; interogation, revenge, etc. is a good one! and as long as it's m/f, or f/m, i'd buy them.

steve

 

[kurchatovium]

I love sorority initiation themes as well bella I think for the reason you describe. Also there is an air of mystery and secrecy about the initiation process too which adds to the excitement.

The nonconsensuality thing doesn't have to be that believable for me to enjoy the video. It is more important for me that no one was actually "used" just to make a video look more real. Thats why I kind of like "the zone" description (glad you like it too) because there is narrow area where the tickling looks sadistic in a kind of mischievous sort of way, but not to the point of being downright nasty.

I think your right though finding highly ticklish people who love to be tickled is the big key to making the videos look great.

 

[amk714]

The Zone! Perfect description, . Yes, the victims should AGREE to be tickled non-consensually! 😀 And yes, CalStar videos suck more than my vacuum. 😡

 

[BigJim]

And yes, CalStar videos suck more than my vacuum. 😡

Hey AMK, how do you think CalStar compare to FM Concepts when it comes to tickling videos?

 

[amk714]

Originally posted by BigJim

Hey AMK, how do you think CalStar compare to FM Concepts when it comes to tickling videos?

Actually, mate, I don't know that much about tickling videos. I've never bought one--I'm a poor college student, remember? 🙁 All I know is that I like to see REAL tickling, and those companies cater to the foot-fetish-only people and those who don't care if the models aren't very ticklish more than to us hard-core ticklers. Not that I don't have a foot fetish, I most certainly do, but it's combined WITH a tickling fetish! 😀

 

[BigJim]

Actually, mate, I don't know that much about tickling videos. I've never bought one--I'm a poor college student, remember? 🙁 All I know is that I like to see REAL tickling, and those companies cater to the foot-fetish-only people and those who don't care if the models aren't very ticklish more than to us hard-core ticklers. Not that I don't have a foot fetish, I most certainly do, but it's combined WITH a tickling fetish! 😀

Same here. I didn't even have a tickling fetish till I got my first internet capable PC 3 years ago at 21, and found that tickling was always linked to foot fetish on the net. Since then I never looked back.........

And ya still canna match me post for post!!!!! 😛😛😛

 

[amk714]

Wanna bet I can match you post for post, Jim? 😀

Oh, wait, I'm poor, can't do that, can I? 🙂

Yes, the tickling and foot fetishes often go together. For me, one can't function without the other, but I do separate them from time to time. 😎

 

[Bill_Edwards]

Real Consensual But HORRIBLE in the best sense

Real. That's what Hysterical Squealing videos are. Susan admits to masochistic tendencies, she is " horribly" ticklish, and she is mildly exhibitionist. She consents to tickling the same way she consents to spanking (ok I admit it I am bipolar TK/Spank) I am lucky to be able to say that our relationship allows me to take things to extremes you can't see in the world of paid models, safe words, and prespecified limits. So aside from my sales pitch, I think the definition of the term consensual changes from situation to situation.

When I say Susan consents, I mean she consents to something she truly hates fears and would avoid if she could but consents anyway out of love and her tendency toward masoschism.

Production values on our first video are poor but the tickling punishment Susan agreed to is 100% real. You will hear her say after the first touch of my fingers on her black nylons at the very beginning that "Oh its awful I can't put up with this! Ha Ha etc." But the punishment continues. The following three videos were not punishments per se, just my lover Susan agreeing to suffer the worst for me. And that's all there will be until I find someone horribly ticklish who Susan agrees to let me tickle (I'm working on it) You won't see video after video of junk from Hysterical Squealing, nor will you see unending hype, or lots of clips. We have a few good short ones at the site but the really good stuff is in the tapes which we charge a fair price for. All tickling is good but real tickling is better.

http://www.erols.com/hysterical.squealing/

Thus sayeth Bill Edwards

 

[qjakal]

Lucky...

You are indeed a fortunate fellow, Bill_Edwards....live the dream and enjoy! Q

 

[NYCity]

And yes, CalStar videos suck more than my vacuum.

Question for the mods.

Why was this post allowed to stand? I thought the rules were that criticism of videos and video companies had to be constructive and supported by reasons, and that this type of post is innappropriate. Or are "certain" video companies entitled to specialized treatment, while others are not?

I know that the mods cannot possible see every post, at least not immediately. They have lives of their own and do not spend 24/7 on the boards. However, I can't help thinking that if the above comment were made about Femfeet or Magic Touch, it would have been long gone by now.

If the rules apply to some, but not others, I would appreciate the sticky rules being clarified to reflect this so that we can all see in writing whose shit don't stink.

 

[ticklevids]

Let's make a deal

When Cal Star wants to actually participate ina forum like this and CARE about what their customers say, then the mods can police the posts about them.

But , that will never happen because cal star is a fetish HOUSE. Built on mass production of all fetishes without regard to sincerity. Ask the spanking groups what they think of cal star, you get the same thing.

The other companies you mentioned participate here and are in the community and don't do other vid work.

You should learn to see the difference and forgive the small tresspasses of a community board that protects the real players from jealous fools who have no real tickling outlet in their life and want to take it out on all who do. Just go to usenet to see what this board would quickly turn into without mods.

And please... there is plenty of criticism of these companies in the reviews section anyway.

 

[NYCity]

Re: Let's make a deal

When Cal Star wants to actually participate ina forum like this and CARE about what their customers say, then the mods can police the posts about them.

But , that will never happen because cal star is a fetish HOUSE. Built on mass production of all fetishes without regard to sincerity. Ask the spanking groups what they think of cal star, you get the same thing.

The other companies you mentioned participate here and are in the community and don't do other vid work.

Exactly my point. Too much is made of which producers are popular, when applying the rules. When I am trying to decide what video to buy, I want to know how good the video is, period. I like to make purchasing decisions on the content of the video, price, delivery, sevice, etc. Whether or not the creator of the video happens to reguarly post on the TMF is irrelavant to that purchasing decision. That's why objective, well-thought out reviews are important, and mindless trashing should not be allowed. In order for that to work best, for the ENTIRE community, the rules should be applied in all situations.

You have stated the reasons you do not like that particular company, which is what a criticism is SUPPOSED to do. I happen to agree with your reasons, but the post I asked about did not. My point is not to defend that particular company, just asking for the mods to clarify how they are applying the rules.

"You should learn to see the difference and forgive the small tresspasses of a community board that protects the real players from jealous fools who have no real tickling outlet in their life and want to take it out on all who do."

I have absolutely no idea who that is directed at, or what point you are attempting to make. If you are attempting to make the case that "jealous fools...taking it out on" a member or company that is not among the "in-crowd" (i.e. the above comment about Cal-Star) is somehow OK, or in any way makes our community stronger, I disagree.

"Just go to usenet to see what this board would quickly turn into without mods."

That is exactly the situation I want to avoid. Because when a comment like Cal-Star one is allowed to stand, we take one step backwards in time towart the old AMT. It's only a matter of time, before people start saying "NYCity sucks" or "Ticklevids sucks" with no reasoning except to trash, and then everything great about the TMF is gone.