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Rubenesque

Crystal is a fine example for this discussion, thank you. Rubenesque-ness (yes it's a word :cool2:) has nothing to do with height. The fact that her proportions differ from other, equally rubenesque women due similar shapes overall but different bodies, because they're different people, doesn't make the term invalid for her nor for the purposes of this thread. The actual measurements are surely different, but the definition doesn't change because of that. A woman under 5 feet tall with dimensions similar to Crystal's would still be considered rubenesque.
I have absolutely no idea what you just said, so I can't really respond.
 
I have absolutely no idea what you just said, so I can't really respond.

Not sure what you found difficult to grasp, no one's had trouble understanding me before, but a response from you isn't necessary. Just sayin'.
 
And to think all these years I've thought it meant "Like a pastrami-and-sauerkraut-sandwich." That explains all the weird looks I got in art galleries.

So that was you I saw in Subway admiring the exquisite penmanship on their special offers sign, was it?

Also that Crystal Renn has a bit of a frying-pan face. Hardly what I'd call "stunning" but each to their own I suppose.
 
I don't think Libertine was saying anything negative about Rubenesque women...I think he was simply explaining the likely reasons concerning their allure without judgment.

A lot of our attitudes about women and their weight have really emerged in the last century, and most of them due to attempts to subdue female sexuality with the advent of mass distribution technology. Many women considered hot in the pre-Hayes Code era (between 1896-1933) were what we would call..."full-figured" is the best way of putting it, and I would happen to agree that the flesh of that body type carries a voracious and invigorating amourousness to it.

But when the Code went into affect, one of the stipulations was that clothing on women could no longer be body-hugging, and clothing styles were adopted to cloak the figure in drapery (hence the plethora of glamour and period pictures in the 1930s and 40s). Bust inspectors were real job titles given to real people to ensure that costumes adhered to standards set forth by the Code (although these standards weren't concretely established). One of the side effects of this was that women with narrow waists and large..."global endowments" were often the preferred choice because the size of their chests were perfect for prying the clothing away from their bodies, acting much like awnings. A generation or two of skinny, large-breastes women as the sex symbols for people growing up with movies established the big-tits-and-hourglass-waist as the cultural standard, thus paving the way for eating disorders and unecessary breast implants for generations to come.

So in many ways, attempts to confine sexuality for moral purification only ended up damaging society as a whole (although Drew would probably argue otherwise). But then again, moral crusaders largely champion and herald the end of the world so why would they give a fuck about the health of society since its illness only hastens the Judgment Day?

But from a technical standard, it IS about health overall. Skinny people are ectomorphic body types; full-figured or Rubenesque people are endomorphs; and UFC fighters are mesomorphs (all bone and muscle), ane each body type carreis with it certain levels of healthy equilibrium. So here's my measurement of Fat vs. Rubenesque:

FAT: an endomorphic body type with excessive levels of fat collecting into cellulite pockets layering disporportionately into the skin; breathing becomes laborious, and ambulatory capacity is hindered without the aid of degenerative nerve disorders or glandular imbalance; non-hereditary circulatory problems occur causing cardiac distress. Typically seen in Wal-Mart wobbling around themselves and yelling at their 8 kids (named Colton, Conner, Hunter, Derek, Lou-Ann, or Travis) in sleevless shirts and rat-tail heads that they aren't going to get that kind of cereal.

RUBENESQUE: Endomorph with normal levels of body content. Fat and weight levels consistent with height and age, and appendages are proportional. Skin wrinkles and blemishes are consistent with girth, and not due to cellulite sediment. Generally pleasant attitudes and quite ticklish with/without possible enlarged libido. Lots of fun and actually more attractive to men than often admitted. Famous examples: Devinn Lane, Calli Cox, Crystal Renn, (and Bella, 😀), etc.

So a FAT woman, in my opinion is simply an endomorph with an unhealthy lifestyle; someone who doesn't eat right and take care of themselves. But for a woman who does take care of their body and keeps it in balance, the copious flesh becomes succulent and rather alluring. The same applies for ectomorphs, who can look revolting when they lose too much weight and resemble skeletons. Both look UNHEALTHY because their bodies warp into disproportionate forms. But when they're balanced just right...YYYYYYYYYYYYUUUUUUUMMMAY!

By the by, I don't think that TicklishGiggle's body counts as Rubenesque on account of the fact that she's 5-foot-10 and she might be underweight for her height :blaugh:

On a final note, we could all stand to tone ourselves up a bit, some more so than others (my tits are getting almost as big as Bella's) but that comes with exercise, not dieting or losing weight; it's enhancing what we've lost, not losing what we have.
 
By the by, I don't think that TicklishGiggle's body counts as Rubenesque on account of the fact that she's 5-foot-10 and she might be underweight for her height :blaugh:
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You're too nice.

But I'm NOT 5'10"!
 
She's right. She's fairly tiny. XD

But Rubenesque eh? I'd heard that word before, but never really bothered finding out what it meant. But now that I know, I rather like it. I know what my word of the month is now. 😀
 
I don't think Libertine was saying anything negative about Rubenesque women...I think he was simply explaining the likely reasons concerning their allure without judgment.

full-figured or Rubenesque people are endomorphs; and UFC fighters are mesomorphs (all bone and muscle), ane each body type carreis with it certain levels of healthy equilibrium. So here's my measurement of Fat vs. Rubenesque:

But from a technical standard, it IS about health overall. Skinny people are ectomorphic body types;cellulite pockets layering disporportionately into the skin; breathing becomes laborious, and ambulatory capacity is hindered without the aid of degenerative nerve disorders or glandular imbalance; non-hereditary circulatory problems occur causing cardiac distress. Typically seen in Wal-Mart wobbling around themselves and yelling at their 8 kids (named Colton, Conner, Hunter, Derek, Lou-Ann, or Travis) in sleevless shirts and rat-tail heads that they aren't going to get that kind of cereal.

RUBENESQUE: Endomorph with normal levels of body content. Fat and weight levels consistent with height and age, and appendages are proportional. Skin wrinkles and blemishes are consistent with girth, and not due to cellulite sediment. Generally pleasant attitudes and quite ticklish with/without possible enlarged libido. Lots of fun and actually more attractive to men than often admitted. Famous examples: Devinn Lane, Calli Cox, Crystal Renn, (and Bella, 😀), etc.

So a FAT woman, in my opinion is simply an endomorph with an unhealthy lifestyle; someone who doesn't eat right and take care of themselves. But for a woman who does take care of their body and keeps it in balance, the copious flesh becomes succulent and rather alluring. The same applies for ectomorphs, who can look revolting when they lose too much weight and resemble skeletons. Both look UNHEALTHY because their bodies warp into disproportionate forms. But when they're balanced just right...YYYYYYYYYYYYUUUUUUUMMMAY!

On a final note, we could all stand to tone ourselves up a bit, some more so than others (my tits are getting almost as big as Bella's) but that comes with exercise, not dieting or losing weight; it's enhancing what we've lost, not losing what we have.

I think you should ask my current SO who stands at 5'3" and 145 why he's attracted to woman my size! I'm well beyond the BMI standards but he's almost angry that I've lost 40 lbs. He doesn't want me to get too small in my goal of losing 100 lbs. Now, I have a decision to make; do I keep him or lose the 100 lbs? Here's my answer----I'm going to lose the weight and if he rejects me, it's his problem and I'll deal with it when I need to. I want to lose the weight because I'm tired of carrying it around. Not because of societal standards or all of the "health experts." It's all about me in 2008; no kids' issues, no ex husband issues. Just about me and my wants and needs which include completing my Masters program by July 08.

But it's all about me; not what everyone says or societal standards that I probably will never obtain. I just want to challenge myself to get to what my best weight can be.
 
Amnesiac;

I re-read your last post and have a couple of things to interject:

Being an endomorph has nothing to do with unhealthy lifestyle as it does with living the metabolic hand you're dealt. My mother, oldest sister, and myself are classic endomorphs. Our body mass is fattier (for lack of a better term) than other body types. Has nothing to do with lifestyle, just the way we are. My daughter is an athlete, stands 5'11" and weighs about 160-170 lbs. That is by no means overweight in my book. She struggles with building muscle because she's a classic endomorph; it makes her work harder to maintain or achieve her goals.

Endomorphs gain and lose weight easier than the other body types. Also, people can be combination endo, ecto, or mesomorph body types as well.

This round, I'm choosing to lose the weight more slowly and control my diet with portion control and some exercise. I'm not hitting the gym 7 days/wk--hell, I can't even afford a gym membership right now and my studies come first! Maybe after I finish school I'll join a gym but for now, my walks from the parking lot to work is all the exercise I can presently handle.

Getting back to topic.........

Now that Headsnap knows what Rubenesque is, we can all agree that it's about preference, not necessarily what is deemed as healthy. I know way too many healthy fat folks and my share of unhealthy fit folks to even bother arguing with anyone about it. That's unless someone from the "size does matter" thread has anything else to say to me!:whip:
 
Being an endomorph has nothing to do with unhealthy lifestyle as it does with living the metabolic hand you're dealt. My mother, oldest sister, and myself are classic endomorphs.
-kis123
No, I didn't mean to say that endomorphs WERE unhealthy due to lifestyle...I was saying they CAN be unhealthy due to lifestyle. And, as I said, SO CAN ECTOMORPHS, it's only the difference of directions in the way the body goes. But both directions can create body shapes that are demonstrably unappealing AND physically harmful.

What I guess I should have said is that mainstream society has never made a concentrated effort to separate the fat from the Rubenesque and has instead lumped the two together, when in reality, they are quite different. So oftentimes women with a "larger" body type are thought of as fat, even though they could be perfectly healthy. And lifestyle changes can HELP that health, and the loss of weight is NOT NECESSARILY the reason.
 
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