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Screw this. I'm out.

Snail Shell

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We've all had situations in our lives that are unpleasant and that we truck through for whatever reason. Maybe it's for money at a lousy job that pays well. Maybe it's holding on to a bad relationship because of whatever benefits you get from it. Or a myriad of other things.

At what point in those situations, if at any point at all, do you say "Fuck it.", throw your hands up and walk away? When do you feel is the appropriate time to cut your losses and move on? Are there any situations that are unpleasant that you would never walk away from?

When does your inner Cartman take over and say, "Screw you guys, I'm going home."?

Snail Shell
 
I think I'm just too lazy and/or stubborn to do that, or maybe too apathetic, but I've always admired people who do draw the line and say enough is enough.
 
When I've given up hope that the other people involved will ever change. 🙁
 
Luckily I'm selfish enough to rarely be in this position. Most of the things I do/people I know/relationships I have, are of my own choosing, chosen because they benefit me. If at any time that ceases to be the case I gtfo. Of course commited relationships/friendships are different, but I still have limits. For me its a lot to do with self-respect, I hate getting walked over and taken advantage of.
 
Screw this thread. I'm outta here.




( see? it's easy 😀 )

I agree. It can be very easy to leave a situation that you're not getting anything out of immediately, like this thread. What about other situations where you have some sort of outstanding commitment (for lack of a better term) or are receiving some other sort of benefit? How easy is it then?

Snail Shell
 
I agree. It can be very easy to leave a situation that you're not getting anything out of immediately, like this thread. What about other situations where you have some sort of outstanding commitment (for lack of a better term) or are receiving some other sort of benefit? How easy is it then?

Snail Shell

Well fairly hard I'd guess, otherwise we wouldn't be having this conversation 😀 If you receiving other benefits then its just a pros and cons game, which ranks higher? If you have outstanding commitments, or obligations by the sound of it, then you may just have to stick it out, just make sure your not getting taken for a ride...
 
We've all had situations in our lives that are unpleasant and that we truck through for whatever reason. Maybe it's for money at a lousy job that pays well.
Snail Shell

Been there, when I was living in Kansas City and working in pest control. The company was never a great one to work for, but most of the top and mid level managers had been in the business for years and as long as you took care of your route they pretty much left you alone.

That changed when most of those people were forced out and the bean counters took over. The bottom line became the only consideration, employees and customers be damned. It got to the point I became physically ill at the thought of going to work, and I was not the only one who felt that way. The turn over rate at my branch approached 100% my last year, and the company average was around 70-80% per year.

When it got to the point that I had to take antidepressants and anti anxiety medication just so I could walk out the door in the morning, I knew it was time to bail. I'd never made more money in my life, but the lies, hypocrisy and business practices of this company were eating away at my soul.
 
I was ready to do that today. I hate my current job, even though it pays well. If it wasn't for the Medical and Dental benefits with my union I would have given my notice at the end of next month. Fortunately my father set me straight, and kept me from make a mistake. There may also be a chance for me to move to another area and get away from what I am currently doing, and the people I currently have to deal with.
 
I agree. It can be very easy to leave a situation that you're not getting anything out of immediately, like this thread. What about other situations where you have some sort of outstanding commitment (for lack of a better term) or are receiving some other sort of benefit? How easy is it then?

Snail Shell

Nothing worth doing is ever easy.
 
At what point in those situations, if at any point at all, do you say "Fuck it.", throw your hands up and walk away? When do you feel is the appropriate time to cut your losses and move on? Are there any situations that are unpleasant that you would never walk away from?

When does your inner Cartman take over and say, "Screw you guys, I'm going home."?

Snail Shell

Daily.

But I wouldn't say I 'quit' FOREVER, just for a time until whatever the situation is subsides. It's not that I mind conflict, but I hate wasting time.

So if and when something gets to a point where I need to walk away, I will. Easily.

So, technically, I never quit... or every day. Whatever way you want to look at it.
 
I have a very hard time walking away, especially if at any point
I was determined to make it work. It's the never-say-die mentality.
 
I've had a couple of friendships that I had to walk away from. One person was manipulative to the point of being abusive, but because she had been abused as a child and an adult, I thought if I was a "better" friend that it would help her. Unfortunately, she just wanted to take everything that had ever happened in her life out on me. I let her move in with me so she could be closer her job (where I also worked and where we met). She was supposed to stay for a couple of weeks until she got her own apartment; three months later, I had to ask her to leave, at which point she became even more abusive.

The other "friend" liked to drink ... a lot, and she needed someone to chauffeur her around; again, I thought we were friends, and it took a while for me to realize that she only wanted to get together with me so she could go out and drink without getting arrested for DWI ... again. I tried to help her. I offered to be a buddy when she went to AA; I tried to plan fun things for us to do that didn't involve going to bars or clubs or parties; I gave her job leads when she lost her job; I gave her rides when she lost her car - none of that mattered. I was a "bad" friend because I wouldn't do what she wanted when she wanted. She was (and may still be) an alcoholic, which means she had an illness, but I couldn't take the abuse she handed out when she was drinking (she was a lovely person when she was sober).

The interesting thing is that my other friends - people I had known for a long time - did not like either of those friends, and they tried to tell me that I was being mistreated, but I didn't want to give up on people that I honestly thought were my friends. It was painful, in both cases, to realize that those two people were using me. They were in my life at different times, and they never knew one another, although, in hindsight, they were very similar personalities, and they probably would have gotten along well.

In both cases, I simply stopped interacting with them socially. I wasn't rude to them (I didn't hang up the phone when they called, or slam the door in the one friend's face when she came to my house to ask me face-to-face why I didn't want to go out), but I stopped going out with them, declined invitations to their respective homes, and stopped inviting them to my house. Once they realized I wasn't going to be at their beck and call, they both became angry and tried to provoke me (that's the only way I can think of to describe it) into socializing with them by accusing me of being a bad friend for not going out with them. Again, it's interesting that they both used the same technique to try to continue our relationship.

The one who had moved in with me called me more than a year after confronting me about being a bad friend; she spoke to me as if we had never lost contact. I was polite, I asked how she was doing, I wished her well, and then I got off the phone. The other person attempted to contact me through a mutual friend by asking that friend to tell me to call her; I didn't, and I never heard from her again.

I learned a lot about true friendship through those situations because my longtime friends showed me, by example, what real friendship is; however, that was a painful lesson learned.

🙁
 
One of my teachers in high school told me that I have real "sticktoitiveness". When I'm determined to do something or have invested myself in someone or something, I rarely walk away. There's got to be a huge reason for me to do so...along with a belief that it can't be overcome. For better or for worse, I believe that there's always a way. So, that has to be totally destroyed before I start doubting that there's hope.

OTOH, I tend to not commit to things easily. I have to feel drawn in spite of myself before I really give myself to someone or something. So, if it's something I'm not committed to, I can walk away pretty easily.
 
I almost left my current job about 3 years ago. I was in the process of negotiating a buy in and the other associate, who was supposed to be my future business partner, got up and left the table. It left everything in limbo. But I knew I wanted to be my own boss and the clinic owners were planning to sell to a more corporate minded consortium. So I made my own exit strategy... I had another job lined up about 50 miles further north. I would leave behind my clients of 10 years and start anew. But the partners asked me to reconsider the buy in - even considering buying it outright by myself. I began looking at the possibilities - it took a year, a lot of tears, attorneys, brokers, and the like. My attorney told me at one point maybe there was a reason it wasn't meant to be and there as always another opportunity out there. My broker said it was my persistence to come back to the table that made things work out in the end.

I've been an owner for two years now. And this past summer, the other associate who was supposed to be my business partner, started making more noise. She wasn't pleased at my decision to buy without her (and made no small bones about it). We had some heart to heart talks - and the bottom line, I didn't see her as part of the future like I once did. She was an integral part at one time, but she wouldn't commit to anything or bring anything new to the table. So... she left. Well, let me rephrase that - we pushed her towards the door. And it was scary - she and I worked the most hours and brought in the most business. But in the end, for staff morale and for the future of the business, it was the right decision. I was tired of walking on tiptoes and eggshells (it felt like I was walking barefoot on broken glass some times) because her unhappiness meant NO ONE could be happy. I respected her as a colleague and I still see her as a friend (she stops by to see the clinic every now and then). But it was time to cut the strings. That was bottom line. Unhappiness for all is no way to live. And while work isn't a democracy, it's not meant to be an autocracy where everyone cowers and bends to the whims of one. I relish the peace now when I walk through the door. And I'm usually still smiling at the end of the day.
 
And while work isn't a democracy, it's not meant to be an autocracy where everyone cowers and bends to the whims of one.

That struck a chord with me. There was someone like that at my previous job. She wasn't a supervisor or manager or department director, but everyone (including the department director) was at her mercy. One by one, each person in the department left. She now runs the department; I hope that brought her peace. :tiger:
 
That struck a chord with me. There was someone like that at my previous job. She wasn't a supervisor or manager or department director, but everyone (including the department director) was at her mercy. One by one, each person in the department left. She now runs the department; I hope that brought her peace. :tiger:

Ah, the happiness of solitary at the expense of the few or many. How I loathe that. But my question to you is.. what is the state motto of VA?? Do you have tyrants or Tyrannosaurus Rex? :idunno:
 
There's not really a specific set of circumstances that I can identify that will cause me to walk away from something. The times that I've had to decide to quit a job or a relationship or whatever, it's kind of a feeling I've gotten that said the time is now. I just kind of realize that the cost is outweighing the benefit. It doesn't make sense to stick it out anymore.
 
I don't ususlly give up on anything very easily. Especially if what is at risk is the loss of a realtionship I THOUGHT was valuable..

However, I've also been tired of being used as people's personal doormat, and feeling that what i'm giving to them feels nothing more than a one way street.

At what point do I call it quits?

When I see i've given all of me, and recieved nothing of them in return!!

I have had to learn this lesson many times the hard way, and it has finally sunk in.
 
There are countless times at my work, especially since in my line of work I have found myself in several physical altercations with the-less-then-reasonable-minded intoxicated person, where I ask myself why I still work there. It's also a lot harder when your management says that they have your back but you know for a fact that when push came to shove, they would step out of the way and let the grunt take the fall - especially where "esteemed" clients were involved and in the wrong...

I have my stance on "Enough is Enough" - I believe in "better late than never" but also that too early is a bad thing... To be late with bailing, for better or worse, demonstrates a desire to strive for change, to "make things work", but to do so early demonstrates consistent inconsistency and is not how I like to live my life.
 
I have a huge tolerance for things that annoy me. I guess that is how I can stand being myself so much.

I usually try to always find that elusive "silver lining" and 95% of the time I succeed. Very rarely do I come upon a situation that is hopeless or that I need to say "Screw you guys, I'm going home." But when that time does arise I tend to make it so obvious to everyone around why I am taking my ball and going home that honestly more than a couple of times I get told right before I make the break "Why didn't you tell me sooner" and we end end mending things.

So yes, it can be done, and I have, but more often than not I find a way to turn that negative into a positive....somehow.

Rob
 
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