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Shaming producers who sell awful tickling clips!

TonyTheTongue

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Buyers should be able to speak up too. There is a lot of shit being sold on C4S by members here. The fake laughing, the sloppy technique, weak bondage, funny masks, and trite bondage positions. I don't know about others, but I sure as hell do not like it when I hear the word OW throughout a clip... or when I see purple colored big toes from autistic bondage.
 
To truly shame a producer you would have to make a better video.

Just saying....
 
What you consider awful or fake some other person might consider awesome and real. Watch previews, read reviews, and caveat emptor. Anything else is just being a dick.
 
Preview clips are generally misleading - usually 30 seconds, 10 seconds of black screen and title with music, followed by 10 seconds of tickling, and then 10 more seconds of words and a black screen.

Summaries of clips are rarely in accord with the footage. A purported real ticklish girl rarely gets tickled to the aforementioned. Occasionally a genuine reaction happens, but is neglected out of sympathy or apathy. In a typical 10 minute clip, I'd estimate 2-3 minutes of actual tickling.

I wasted alot of money on a custom clip. Hoping to forestall a lot of nonsense with a creative mind and attention to detail, which got me more of the same. The producer disregarded a lot of what I wanted and it trickled down to the cast... with the star painting her toe nails at the last minute and a ler apprising the viewer of such carelessness when she barely worshipped the feet because she did not like the taste of toe nail polish.

I have no doubt in my mind I could do better than these people, but not in the same circumstances. I need autonomy and authority, and both are castrated prior to doing business with women.

Never could I run a business, because men have defaulted on taking action, allowing women to dictate what happens, which is usually nonsense because they want the money, not the tickling. The term professional has become analogous with insulated. Producers pick up on the nonsense involved with procuring a a shoot, become distraught in the process, but go along with it anyways because of the money and the authority women have. Unfortunately, the quality is what becomes compromised in the process.
 
Preview clips are generally misleading - usually 30 seconds, 10 seconds of black screen and title with music, followed by 10 seconds of tickling, and then 10 more seconds of words and a black screen..

this is 110% true in some cases. i wont point fingers or say names of producers that pull this form of false advertisement/video editing trickery..but there are many now days and ive been a victim of this quite recently.
 
I wasted alot of money on a custom clip. Hoping to forestall a lot of nonsense with a creative mind and attention to detail, which got me more of the same. The producer disregarded a lot of what I wanted and it trickled down to the cast... with the star painting her toe nails at the last minute and a ler apprising the viewer of such carelessness when she barely worshipped the feet because she did not like the taste of toe nail polish.
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I made this mistake once too...there's only 1 producer I trust on the rare occasion i order custom clips, and that's chloe's creations. not only are they really cheap in price, but they deliver..and if they fuck it up, they do it again AT NO EXTRA CHARGE. now THAT is good customer service!

I wont name the other I tried once..but it was 120 bucks down the drain and the most lame shit I ever seen.
 
For me a store has to offer enough of a preview so I can at least hear the model's laugh. If they don't have previews, or 10 seconds of nothing but opening credits, I probably won't buy from there.
 
I have no doubt in my mind I could do better than these people, but not in the same circumstances. I need autonomy and authority, and both are castrated prior to doing business with women.

Never could I run a business, because men have defaulted on taking action, allowing women to dictate what happens, which is usually nonsense because they want the money, not the tickling. The term professional has become analogous with insulated. Producers pick up on the nonsense involved with procuring a a shoot, become distraught in the process, but go along with it anyways because of the money and the authority women have. Unfortunately, the quality is what becomes compromised in the process.


A person reading this could possibly mistake you for someone who has an issue with women in general..

...that said, if I'd been castrated prior to doing business with a woman I would definitely feel some resentment!


😀
 
In the event of paying for a customer vid and it turns out to be crap, sure I could see that. If you're just buying clips though, I would think no one buying their clips would be shame enough.
 
Never could I run a business, because men have defaulted on taking action, allowing women to dictate what happens, which is usually nonsense because they want the money, not the tickling. The term professional has become analogous with insulated. Producers pick up on the nonsense involved with procuring a a shoot, become distraught in the process, but go along with it anyways because of the money and the authority women have. Unfortunately, the quality is what becomes compromised in the process.

Incorrect, on wanting the money and not the tickling. Most of us (myself included) want both. It's fun, but it IS a business, no doubt.

Also incorrect on the "authority women have", especially in regard to the producer. Please! The producer is the employer and like most employer/employee situations, there are FAR more models than there are of us, meaning that if a model isn't providing what a producer needs, there's another one right around the corner who will (and probably for less money). I personally don't deal with ANY model who can't/won't give me what I want/need. The producer runs the shoot or the model (whoever she may be) is out the door. Period.

But, you've already said that you couldn't run a business, so you wouldn't understand that, I suppose. That being the case, you should probably ditch your uninformed opinions about what producers "have" to deal with to procure a shoot, as they are 1) not grounded in fact and/or 2) based on your observations of a producer who doesn't know what he's doing.

On the custom issue; sorry to hear that. I know how much it sucks, because I've been there. It's one of the things that drove me to produce the stuff that I want to see (which is why most of us make what we make, the way we make it ... it's what WE want). In fact, many producers won't do customs because they are so very personal in nature. Having someone's private fantasies placed in your hands is a BIG responsibility and should never be taken lightly - or "just for the money" - by the producer. THAT is truly an insult, worthy of shame.

As for the rest, if you don't like what you see, don't buy it. Make your own stuff. Many producers started out as dissatisfied/ambitious customers. "Lead, follow or get the hell out of the way!" is my motto, so choose wisely, because Leo Tickles is right. To truly shame a producer you would have to make a better video.
 
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Buyers should be able to speak up too. There is a lot of shit being sold on C4S by members here. The fake laughing, the sloppy technique, weak bondage, funny masks, and trite bondage positions. I don't know about others, but I sure as hell do not like it when I hear the word OW throughout a clip... or when I see purple colored big toes from autistic bondage.

What you think of shit, others see it as gold. If you don't like a particular clip, feel free to discuss it in a review thread. None of the people here are on the level of Spielburg or James Cameron; they simply are making tickling videos.
 
While previews are certainly useful I find reviews to be an utter waste of time.Ive lost count of the number of "Intense, insanely ticklish, extreme torture " Blah blah blah clips being rated by sombody who presumably read and understood the description as "awesone " on the basis that the barely reactive model had a " cute giggle "
 
While previews are certainly useful I find reviews to be an utter waste of time.Ive lost count of the number of "Intense, insanely ticklish, extreme torture " Blah blah blah clips being rated by sombody who presumably read and understood the description as "awesone " on the basis that the barely reactive model had a " cute giggle "

I'll never forget the time I bought a clip based on a post someone made about how awesome this particular model was. She was his favorite of all time, exquisitely ticklish, had a beautiful laugh, blah-dy blah blah. So I bought the clip and was treated to five minutes of a girl who had to have been part air raid siren screeching her head off as some other girl barely touched her.:pieface:
 
Incorrect, on wanting the money and not the tickling. Most of us (myself included) want both. It's fun, but it IS a business, no doubt.

Also incorrect on the "authority women have", especially in regard to the producer. Please! The producer is the employer and like most employer/employee situations, there are FAR more models than there are of us, meaning that if a model isn't providing what a producer needs, there's another one right around the corner who will (and probably for less money). I personally don't deal with ANY model who can't/won't give me what I want/need. The producer runs the shoot or the model (whoever she may be) is out the door. Period.

But, you've already said that you couldn't run a business, so you wouldn't understand that, I suppose. That being the case, you should probably ditch your uninformed opinions about what producers "have" to deal with to procure a shoot, as they are 1) not grounded in fact and/or 2) based on your observations of a producer who doesn't know what he's doing.

On the custom issue; sorry to hear that. I know how much it sucks, because I've been there. It's one of the things that drove me to produce the stuff that I want to see (which is why most of us make what we make, the way we make it ... it's what WE want). In fact, many producers won't do customs because they are so very personal in nature. Having someone's private fantasies placed in your hands is a BIG responsibility and should never be taken lightly - or "just for the money" - by the producer. THAT is truly an insult, worthy of shame.

As for the rest, if you don't like what you see, don't buy it. Make your own stuff. Many producers started out as dissatisfied/ambitious customers. "Lead, follow or get the hell out of the way!" is my motto, so choose wisely, because Leo Tickles is right. To truly shame a producer you would have to make a better video.


This is my favorite response...

I just want to also add that the marketing and advertising/promtion aspect for clips has been greatly improved. I remember when I first discovered C4S(less than a hundred stores): a minimal description on the clip, one image, and the cost of the clip.

Many of the producers here telling you exactly what your buying, and throw in a tease on top of that. Darth and Turtlboy definitely wins in that aspect.
 
Buyers should be able to speak up too. There is a lot of shit being sold on C4S by members here. The fake laughing, the sloppy technique, weak bondage, funny masks, and trite bondage positions. I don't know about others, but I sure as hell do not like it when I hear the word OW throughout a clip... or when I see purple colored big toes from autistic bondage.

I stand and applaud this post and your sentiments!
 
I am correct on what I have said or else I would not have said it!! I am also correct when I say your company makes some of the worst tickling clips sold on C4S. You get away with it, because you use beautiful women and a pinup style that clouds the judgement of others. Evidence of this is in numerous posts of your junk and inability to comprehend that it is junk.

I suggest you smell the reality salt you are attempting to use on me, fella.

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Incorrect, on wanting the money and not the tickling. Most of us (myself included) want both. It's fun, but it IS a business, no doubt.

Also incorrect on the "authority women have", especially in regard to the producer. Please! The producer is the employer and like most employer/employee situations, there are FAR more models than there are of us, meaning that if a model isn't providing what a producer needs, there's another one right around the corner who will (and probably for less money). I personally don't deal with ANY model who can't/won't give me what I want/need. The producer runs the shoot or the model (whoever she may be) is out the door. Period.

But, you've already said that you couldn't run a business, so you wouldn't understand that, I suppose. That being the case, you should probably ditch your uninformed opinions about what producers "have" to deal with to procure a shoot, as they are 1) not grounded in fact and/or 2) based on your observations of a producer who doesn't know what he's doing.

On the custom issue; sorry to hear that. I know how much it sucks, because I've been there. It's one of the things that drove me to produce the stuff that I want to see (which is why most of us make what we make, the way we make it ... it's what WE want). In fact, many producers won't do customs because they are so very personal in nature. Having someone's private fantasies placed in your hands is a BIG responsibility and should never be taken lightly - or "just for the money" - by the producer. THAT is truly an insult, worthy of shame.

As for the rest, if you don't like what you see, don't buy it. Make your own stuff. Many producers started out as dissatisfied/ambitious customers. "Lead, follow or get the hell out of the way!" is my motto, so choose wisely, because Leo Tickles is right. To truly shame a producer you would have to make a better video.
 
ROFLMAO finally a hate post thats not about me. Or so it would seem since I rarely do previews less than 30 seconds and almost never use titles.

Oh and Autistic bondage could be a typo.... Artistic/Autistic. It's pretty close in my opinion.
 
I am correct on what I have said or else I would not have said it!! I am also correct when I say your company makes some of the worst tickling clips sold on C4S. You get away with it, because you use beautiful women and a pinup style that clouds the judgement of others. Evidence of this is in numerous posts of your junk and inability to comprehend that it is junk.

I suggest you smell the reality salt you are attempting to use on me, fella.

GR violation

:laughhard:

That's not a fact; it's your opinion...

Do you know every buyer of his clips? Do you know they think it's junk?

Also; don't you mean garlic, and not salt? If you don't like it, get off his porch!
 
You say the producers/guys can't make good clips because they'll never be able to rein in the females.....so therefore you'll NEVER be able to get a good clip!

The producers have to work with who will volunteer for a video/who shows up. I know several wonderfully ticklish girls who would put most models to shame......but they've NEVER do a tickle video!

The previews are just right, in my opinion. The full clip is 10 minutes long - why make a preview that's 5 minutes, and then have no one buy the clip because they already have most of it?!

But I actually agree on the description part - some of the descriptions go on longer than the video! Ha!

And I totally agree with the "If you think you can do it better, do it yourself" view. You don't need a $100 million budget and backing from a major studio to defend yourself, like the Star Wars nerds do.

All you need is a camcorder, and a willing girl with feet and tummy! You don't even need a feather, you can use your fingers!
 
Now THAT's some good shame....

I have no doubt in my mind I could do better than these people, but not in the same circumstances. I need autonomy and authority, and both are castrated prior to doing business with women.

Never could I run a business, because men have defaulted on taking action, allowing women to dictate what happens, which is usually nonsense because they want the money, not the tickling. The term professional has become analogous with insulated. Producers pick up on the nonsense involved with procuring a a shoot, become distraught in the process, but go along with it anyways because of the money and the authority women have. Unfortunately, the quality is what becomes compromised in the process.

Since dealing with real women (HORRORS!! SHUDDER!! EEEK!!!) seems to be a bit daunting to you, your options for true satisfaction seem limited to:

1. Put yourself into Cryo-Sleep until such time as ticklish "female" androids , indistinguishable from the real thing (save for manageability) are readily available at reasonable prices;

2. Embrace a homosexual lifestyle, clone yourself, and make M/M videos with your physical, mental, and genetic twin, thus guaranteeing getting exactly what you want;

3. Continue complaining and insulting people who do produce clips, in hopes that they will eventually succumb to the pressure of one person's relentless kvetching.

Let us know how that works out for you.


P.S. When dealing with women (EEK!!) in the future, perhaps you could invest in a protective cup of some sort. If only for the piece of mind it would bring.
 
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