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Shaming TMF Members who Upload Copyrighted Clips in Public Forums

yaqisworld

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It has recently been brought to my attention that there are a large number of clips, not previews, but full length copy written clips that I have made and that many other tickle video producers have made that are being uploaded into various high traffic forums available for free downloading. I was appalled to discover that many of these people are TMF members. I have decided to start a crusade to stop this and would encourage my fellow producers to do the same. Its one thing to find an occasional clip floating around the internet but to find a whole page of them, many in access of 20 minutes, is personally disturbing.

Unlike sites such as youtube, this material cannot be flagged. It can only be removed by the user and since this site offers privileges each time you contribute material these posters actually benefit from my copy written videos.

Using my records and the records from my clips4sale stores I have positively identified several of the offenders.

I have privately contacted each of these individuals and asked them to remove their posting. So far not one individual has complied or even answered me.

I would list the TMF members who are posting my copy written material but that is a violation of the golden rule. You folks know who you are.

Instead I plan on posting their complete information: names, address etc on my own site and am alerting clips4sale to see if some sort of blacklist can be created to stop these individuals from making future purchases.

I am aware that this sort of piracy is rampant and has been so since the Internet was spawned but I think it is time for tickle producers to more aggressively police and protect their material.

Yaqi
 
Anyone dumb enough to go on a copyright infringement binge with a trace back to their personal information deserves to be outed. But I also wouldn’t be surprised if said individuals were underage buffoons with no business joining the TMF to begin with.
 
Everybody can appreciate why producers don't want their precious creative material floating around for free, for everybody.

"Scat" producers are uber-vigilant about keeping their material from being pirated and posted. Certain specific figures in porn also are: good luck finding a Rachel Steele or Wifey's World material dump available for long. By contacting administrators that you demand to be placed on a "Do Not Post" list, and by even flirting with legal recourse, I expect that the great majority of such sites will flinch and do as you wish.
 
how do you figure their real names based on a username? :idunno:

I have a feeling it went the other way around.

Good luck stopping these people. As much as people hide behind excuses like "it's free advertisement!" or "you'll get more people interested that'll lead them to buying your clips", people should realize that it's not up to users to decide how a producer gets advertised.
 
how do you figure their real names based on a username? :idunno:

Some of these people are really stupid. The most recent TMF person to post one of my clips comes from Canada. He posted it several days after he bought it. He is the only person from Canada to have bought that particular clip. I got all his personal info from clips4sale and I found his facebook page. He also uses the same screenname on the other forum as he does here. He is the first one I am going to nail.

I come from a family of the most powerful lawyers in the world. I have the best counsel, and quite frankly, if you knew me in real life you would know that the last place you ever want to see me is in court.
 
Is there not the possibility for some sort of DRM to be put on files to limit the illegal spread of these clips?
 
Far be it for me to interrupt what could very well be a legendary tickleboard witch hunt, buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut...













there are ways around people having to give up their information to you coughcoughprepaidcreditcardscough, a sizable number of already paranoid porn enthusiasts may be terrified Yaqi's going to out them and their eccentric wank preferences should he mistakenly assume they're a pirate thus cutting down on legitimate sales, hoping the courts feel like you've lost enough potential income to extradite people who very well be hundreds or even thousands of miles away, and the always present knowledge that tickle fetish has some good old fashion psychopaths who'll gladly attempt to fuck up your real life affairs if they feel like you're getting too close to them.

Which isn't to say you should just deal with it, something should definitely be done. But this particular method could blow up in your face several different way.
 
Hmm, well I'm no legal expert, but apparently you are Yaqi so I guess you can clear these points up but...

1) To publicly reveal the personal information you've collected through transactions has got to be in super clear violation of the transactions' privacy policy, no?

2) Legally speaking, you have no proof that a particular individual is behind posting the media to a board, right? I mean, you can say there's only one purchase from Canada, then see a Canadian upload somewhere else, but that's not sufficient proof that it was the same person, was it? I mean it obviously was, but courts need more than that, no?
 
Well, that lets me off the hook. I don't care for his stuff..
 
I am not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV. I am, however, a software developer AND a musician. That means I'm really, really not a fan of digital piracy.

Go get 'em, Yaqi. Just make sure it's all above-board. He who fights monsters, an' all that.

CaveIn said:
Is there not the possibility for some sort of DRM to be put on files to limit the illegal spread of these clips?

You'd like to think so, wouldn't you? DRM is a joke. It's scientifically proven to do no good whatsoever.
 
yaqi, I'm not just saying this because we are friends, but I think you are absolutely right, and justified, to do what you are doing. You are protecting not only yourself, but other producers involved. If a producer has copyrighted material, that is theirs only, and it isn't anyone else's right to take such.

Perhaps I'm particularly appalled by this because, while it was in a different business and product entirely, copyright/patent infringement by a well known company, cost my grandfather his life's work.

You are fighting for a noble cause, yaqi, and I wish you success.

Mitch
 
If they don't Comply with you and take it down after your warning to them can't you just sue them or would that be to much trouble?
 
Every producer has and very much deserves the right to defend their copyrighted material from becoming mainstream, despite how difficult it is to do so when it comes to the Internet and the fact that there isn't one legislation that is absolutely globally binding when it comes to Internet crime. Each state/country usually has it's own laws but their laws don't affect another country/jurisdiction with laws of it's own; the question being then can you legitimately enforce your right to protect your own work/creation when it comes to the Internet?

Yaqi - I wish you all success (very thankful that the Canadian in question isn't me and that person should watch him or herself) however difficult it could be to seek charges against another person from another country with regards to the internet. The one thing you have in your favour that I see is that the clips4sale server (I take it the original server the clip was uploaded to by you) is U.S. based correct? That makes the jurisdiction that it falls under the U.S. if I'm not mistaken so the DMCA comes into play and that should assist you immensely.

Defeinitely not an undertaking to take lightly but perhaps a new, important precedent can be set if you succeed so I hope for the best for you.
 
In a way, I can relate to the sentiment, but I can't do much. I really hope this gets resolved in your end without taking abrupt decisions that can cause you disadvantage in the future. Good luck.
 
Posting up real info of real people, and the fear of such, is why some people pirate clips.

You are going to risk somebody losing an important job, schooling, etc etc, all because your hottest new porn didn't make an extra __ amount of dollars?

Piracy is a bad thing, your solution isn't any better. Contacting the website directly of where your material is hosted and asking them to remove it works just fine.
 
*sighs* I don't understand why some people are so dumb.... Here's my opinion:

You buy these clips which means YOU ALONE have rights to watch them. This does NOT give anyone a right to post them anywhere without the permission of the company. Yea, it's a fetish clip, So what? Doesn't make it any less wrong than if it were a Movie or music. Reading what he's doing wouldn't stop my from buying clips (if I bought them in the first place) simply for the fact you people seem to be over-looking one thing- Yaqi said there was contact made with EACH individual..... if they don't respond buy either taking down their post, or even a simple answer explaining if it wasn't them..... my opinion is it's their own funeral. They KNEW when re-posting the clip that it was wrong and yet they did it anyways... oh well 🙂 I lack sympathy for morons.

I do agree something needs to be done.... though you do say you have quite the legal back up, I see a long drawn out road ahead of you. Best of luck and I hope you get everything resolved... Also, instead of posting their personal info publicly on your site, why not start a chain of emails to the other producers- that way you're not releasing their personal information to the public, but other companies are aware of the people of whom you speak? IDK... just a thought.
 
I understand your annoyance, when you spend money making clips and someone is uploading them for free on a file sharing website. The thing is they are not uploading them for free out of a misguided sense of altruism to the rest of the community, but rather that they are then given access to other clips uploaded by other people. Basically these file sharing websites work on a tariff system, the more you share, the more is shared with you.

Anyway wrong wrong wrong, it is stealing from the producer and if there is no financial incentive for producers to make clips, then the market will dry up.

However I think your solution Yaqi is extremely dangerous, and will lose you customers hand over fist. I haven't bought many clips from you (in fact only a couple about two years back), however I sure as hell am not going to take the risk of buying any in future, lest my details were incorrectly caught up in the mix. As a previous poster said, how can you be sure that the Canadian purchaser and the Canadian uploader are one and the same ? On the other hand maybe they are, but how do you know his hard drive wasn't just hacked into from someone on one of those so called 'legit' music sharing sites ?

I think the only way you can do this is to threaten legal action against the file sharing host sites themselves, insisting they expel the person uploading your clips, and threaten them if don't prevent anyone else from doing the same.

I understand your frustration, but to quote (what may only be an expression in the UK) 'Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater'.
 
However I think your solution Yaqi is extremely dangerous, and will lose you customers hand over fist.
I think the only way you can do this is to threaten legal action against the file sharing host sites themselves, insisting they expel the person uploading your clips, and threaten them if don't prevent anyone else from doing the same.

Let me make something perfectly clear. I am NOT on a witchhunt and I have no intention of releasing any information unless I can absolutely link the indentity of the file sharer with clip purchases and I certainly will not do this on a whim. I am also dealing with a very small number of abusers.

I have found my material posted without my permission many times in the past and have in most cases just shrugged it off. However it is the sheer volume of content in this case that has gotten me so upset.

I have made numerous attempts to contact the administrators and moderators of this site and they have refused to return emails or phone calls.
 
Yaqi, I am an attorney, so a little free advise. I would consult with one of your most power lawyers in the world before exposing individuals. I fully understand the piracy issue; however, setting yourself up for a counter-claim would be ill advised. If you're going to fight this, do it the right way.
 
I have made numerous attempts to contact the administrators and moderators of this site and they have refused to return emails or phone calls.

Use a look-up tool online to get the contact info for the ISP that hosts the forum you're talking about, and send them a DMCA notice. (There are templates for this available everywhere, just Google it.) They should take care of it.
 
Hmm, well I'm no legal expert, but apparently you are Yaqi so I guess you can clear these points up but...

1) To publicly reveal the personal information you've collected through transactions has got to be in super clear violation of the transactions' privacy policy, no?

Yaqi is right. We live in a society where criminals have more rights than the victims, nd it's time that we all stopped entertaining that particular mentality.

TIB went after such people with great vigor, and speaking as a producer (be it, small time), I understand and validate their concerns.

Shopkeepers go after shop lifters, and nobody thinks twice

And the people who illegally download a copyright prodcut are thieves, and it's time we started to call them what they are.

Thieves.

It's no more a 'victimless crime' as physically stealing something from a store.

And unless we change our attitude, we just encourage more of the same behavior

And while we're on the subject of 'privacy' nobody complains when a camera catches the thief in the act.

Well the thief may complain, but as far as I'm concerned, his opinion doesn't count.
 
Yaqi is right. We live in a society where criminals have more rights than the victims, nd it's time that we all stopped entertaining that particular mentality.

TIB went after such people with great vigor, and speaking as a producer (be it, small time), I understand and validate their concerns.

Shopkeepers go after shop lifters, and nobody thinks twice

And the people who illegally download a copyright prodcut are thieves, and it's time we started to call them what they are.

Thieves.

It's no more a 'victimless crime' as physically stealing something from a store.

And unless we change our attitude, we just encourage more of the same behavior

And while we're on the subject of 'privacy' nobody complains when a camera catches the thief in the act.

Well the thief may complain, but as far as I'm concerned, his opinion doesn't count.

That doesn't really answer the whole

1) To publicly reveal the personal information you've collected through transactions has got to be in super clear violation of the transactions' privacy policy, no?

thing though...
 
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