Should any underage material be allowed on the Theater?

[Celtic_Emperor]

Personally, I think content featuring minors in any way shouldn't be allowed here, period. It has nothing to do with morals or ethics. I do have my own opinions about that, but ultimately they don't really matter. Thing is, no matter how we, members of the tickling community, feel about it, it only takes one person with the power to shut down this forum to do so if he/she feels there's something not quite right going on. It doesn't matter if some of us think some types of materials featuring minors are harmless. We could argue the issue until we're blue in the face, the forum would still be gone. And if someone does shut down the TickleTheater, who's to say they won't go on a wild witch hunt and go after other tickling forums (like the TMF, for instance), looking very hard for the tiniest excuse to shut them down as well? What would we do then?

While chances of this happening may not be that high, I feel that we shouldn't take that kind of risk, especially when there's so much material out there with subjects that are 18+.

Besides which, even though one can very well argue that some pictures, stories, etc., featuring minors are harmless, or that some types of tickling aren't really sexual in nature, the fact remains that this forum is meant for adults only. It even says so in the forum's logo ("TickleTheater: online adult community"). Most people here find tickling to be erotic in some way. Posting pictures and other forms of media here and saying they're harmless and non-sexual.... Well, somehow it doesn't sound very credible. At least it probably wouldn't to someone intent on bringing the forum down.

This is all just my opinion, you understand. But I'd really hate to lose one or more tickling forums because the Man took offense to some of the material posted here, feeling it doesn't belong on a forum that's meant for adults.

Excellent point and opinion.

And really, you wouldn't even have to be "the MAN" to get things done if you were intent on doing so (if you were a hacker or knew a hacker, for example) People may have the digital power and freedom to share any fantasy their mind can create, but people opposed to that have the same level of power and can exercise it at any time. The odds are definitely not stacked in an adult website's favor.

Actually, a good way to look at this is that its like playing a game of russian roulette. Every 24 hours this site is open and active, there is that one bullet chamber. Is this the one? Will it be today? Tomorrow? 5 months from now? You don't know. You don't know how, or why, or under what circumstance you go down.

Of course people will say thats a very paranoid way to be, but its smart. And really, you wouldn't have anything to be paranoid about if there was nothing to suspect in the first place.

I think complacency and the feeling that we're all generally safe here and no one would ever do such a thing as to report or hack the place is really irresponsible, and almost like scoffing at the issue.

You and other people have said it before: "I know the chances are really low, but..."

Like hell they are. The chances are very high we just don't see it that way because we take the comfortability, camaraderie in the fetishes, and situation for granted. We don't see US as the ones getting the axe, only the site. Its an unliving, digital place, afterall. It feels no pain and cannot be taken to court, and neither can the pictures (well, as evidence they can). Sometimes people feel so dettached, far, and away from cyber space that they don't even consider it the same as real life, nor as having the same dangers. "If the site gets closed, so what. It doesn't affect me, I'll just go elsewhere". People forget all too easily that there are people who can get in serious, real-life trouble if things go down, and one of those people is the very man who made this site possible, and now the benefactor(s).

 

[OriamRepus1]

He can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think he's saying that you ARE hurting someone: you.

And, that in hurting yourself, you're deluting yourself. And that in deluting yourself you're changing the way your mind percieves things. In changing the way your mind percieves things, you may, no longer, be the person you were. If you are no longer the otherwise upright person that you were, then there is, naturally, some legitimate concern coming from others as to whether or not you're a liability to the rest of us.

While anyone can be a liability and hazard to anyone at any time, and we have no way of knowing whether they are or are not, I can understand how it would be seen as recklessness against one's self that leads to any potential problems. Because you're keeping it to yourself (a part of the problem, as it stresses the fantasies) isn't really a gurantee to anyone, especially yourself, its a form of rationalization and supression.

Because the sexual act is something that can be used as a weopon against other people, there is naturally cause for concern that you might lose control, at any given time, of your own utilities and functions.

We cannot go around policing people's thoughts; we can only ask that they police them themselves. "I don't have to police anything! My mind is my sanctuary!" Maybe so, but pedohphiles have mental sanctuaries too, and its where they commit these crimes first.

There are no gurantees when you're talking about people surpressing a carnal desire based on and in a psychological phenominon. Risky business, either way.

If you put it that way, then yeah it does seem like something extremely harmful. However that doesn't sound like some kind of mental decay caused exclusively by morally reprehensible thoughts. Anything like that of which is capable of causing harm to oneself is a broad scope that can theoretically be considered anything.
So what really is classified as "bad thoughts to think" is totally up to the one thinking them. You can think thoughts of suicide all day, but you don't carry them out. However you deceive yourself, and it will eventually come full circle, bite the other end in the ass and somehow you're thinking "maybe it's okay to kill myself". Then you've got a huge problem. I understand where you are coming from. Although, if you're inept to determine when your thinking is becoming harmful because you start to go crazy, perhaps you should have sought help long ago. For reasons aside from whatever you were thinking, and instead the fact that you are having trouble coping with reality.

Pedophilia is a paraphilia. A sexual deviation, that can, in essence, be compared to the fetish we all share here. I'm sure most of us would agree that one cannot just simply forget about it. If you forgot about it, then there would be no more thoughts. No more thoughts, no more delusions, all is fine. However, if it was so easy to just stop thinking pedophliac thoughts, then we wouldn't have so many pedophiles running rampant. As wrong as it may be, that's just something that (in my belief), is a part of them difficult to change.

So yeah...If you like kids, and that jollies your roger, you're going to think about it regardless. The discrimination against such people probably does nothing more than fuel the mental instability that is probably inevitable. I suppose it's somewhat of a "marijuana syndrome". If marijuana were legal, people wouldn't go to such insane lengths to get it. If people didn't discriminate against people with disorders such as attraction to children (which they may not see as a disorder), then perhaps they wouldn't be so mentally deluded to go to insane heights to get their fix.
I am in no way condoning harming children, but I frown upon the discrimination of anyone. That's just the way I am.

This is a difficult subject to argue. I suppose the bottom line is, seek therapy. If you don't like children, you'll have no want to harm them sexually. Instead of banning everything, we should dig up the weed by the roots. Not that I am saying we should suddenly start letting a bunch of CP onto the market, but we should start concentrating on helping people rather than just trying to sweep the problem under the rug.

My what a much simpler (albeit boring) world this would be if we all were the same.

 

[Zeratul1]

One thing I'd like to point out is this:

People seem very concerned that this forum will be shut down over drawn depictions of children engaged in sexual acts.

Well, I frequent 4chan.org

4chan.org's /b/ (random) board is subject to the exchange of massive amounts of lolikon (and although the mods do their best to delete it when it pops up, real child pornography) images. A good chunk of the 4chan subculture centers around this content in an a fairly humorous way.

And 4chan isn't the only board like this. Not4chan (which seriously isn't affiliated with 4chan), 7chan, 12chan, and 420chan even go so far as to have boards dedicated to lolikon. In fact, not4chan is absolutely nothing but loli and shota, and 12chan has "Jailbait" (barely-legal teen-type stuff) and softcore child boards (creepy suggestive swimsuit pictures and the like) for both genders.

And yet, after at least a couple years of uptime for each board and mountains of kiddy porn drawings, not one of them has been even so much as looked at by the feds.

Now, if boards that encourage much more hardcore things than we do are getting away with that, than what do we have to worry about here?

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

I suppose the bottom line is, seek therapy. If you don't like children, you'll have no want to harm them sexually. Instead of banning everything, we should dig up the weed by the roots. Not that I am saying we should suddenly start letting a bunch of CP onto the market, but we should start concentrating on helping people rather than just trying to sweep the problem under the rug.

My what a much simpler (albeit boring) world this would be if we all were the same.

This is a point I was about to make in some of my extended thoughts on the matter, but theres no need now, since you did it for me.

What I don't like is people in the community who don't like the proactive approach to keeping a forum safe. Its that proactivity thats lowering the chances of us going under, and I appriciate any effort. What I don't appriciate is people making excuses for things which, no matter which way you slice it, are not going to be seem your way by "the MAN" should he or some disgruntled force (external or internal) decide otherwise.

Its a damn shame an entire community would have to go to any great length just to avoid a problem with any random person that could come along, but, thats the price you pay for being into something like this.

One thing I also don't agree with is how people talk about the potential of things happening and going wrong. There is no potential people. The material doesn't decide what it is, and neither do you. Once you accept that Big Brother doesn't give a shit, you can go about your business in a more productive manner. Not caring that Big Brother gives a shit is the root of the problem. It creates a rebellious sort of atmosphere where "we're going to continue this until we get caught!"

Continuing forward in a manner which is not proactive is like going forward on a wing and a prayer, and that is complete and utter foolishness. This site shouldn't be put in danger because so and so thought that cute little chibi was cuter than it was provactive and others, subsequentally, agree. We have to swallow the pride of our own personal opinions and look at things in the big picture. Theres more to lose than just not being able to post loli or whatever the taboo is. Right or wrong it doesn't matter in the legal opinion if you're on the wrong side of the law.

People need to take everything into consideration.

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

One thing I'd like to point out is this:

People seem very concerned that this forum will be shut down over drawn depictions of children engaged in sexual acts.

Well, I frequent 4chan.org

4chan.org's /b/ (random) board is subject to the exchange of massive amounts of lolikon (and although the mods do their best to delete it when it pops up, real child pornography) images. A good chunk of the 4chan subculture centers around this content in an a fairly humorous way.

And 4chan isn't the only board like this. Not4chan (which seriously isn't affiliated with 4chan), 7chan, 12chan, and 420chan even go so far as to have boards dedicated to lolikon. In fact, not4chan is absolutely nothing but loli and shota, and 12chan has "Jailbait" (barely-legal teen-type stuff) and softcore child boards (creepy suggestive swimsuit pictures and the like) for both genders.

And yet, after at least a couple years of uptime for each board and mountains of kiddy porn drawings, not one of them has been even so much as looked at by the feds.

Now, if boards that encourage much more hardcore things than we do are getting away with that, than what do we have to worry about here?

Its sad that people see these facts as a good omen. LOL

 

[Cybertickler]

I thought of this last night, but was in bed, so I didn't post it.

Innocent until proven guilty = it's ok if you don't get caught

what you're thinking is still wrong even if you're not doing anything about it.

 

[Kalamos]

This poll has been posted all wrong.
Period.

Point is not about minor contents in general.
Point is about the comics Koopacooper is posting.

What's the difference? He knows the current letter of the law allows ppl more leeway than it used to do.
And it is exploiting it on purpose, and apparently, getting a thrill from it too.

That's what I find out of place with the whole issue.
He's not just advocating some rights for minors to be portrayed, for the sake of realism.
It would be questionable, but it would make some sense.
No, I am under the impression what he finds fun about this matter is, he knows he's treading through a legal minefield, and he's having a great time too!

Beyond and after all moral considerations, my "loophole" sense is tingling.

 

[Betchass1]

I thought of this last night, but was in bed, so I didn't post it.

Innocent until proven guilty = it's ok if you don't get caught

I'd say that's exactly how the system works. It works far better than many systems the human race has used, like "guilty if the emperor says so" or "innocent if you pay up" or "crush the weak and throw them in the fire."
Justice is something we attempt to impose on ourselves so we can get along, not something that exists somewhere and we are pursuing it. Like it or not, all of our lifestyles contribute to somebody somewhere being downtrodden. Who made the things you own and the things you eat? If you're like most of us (own anything made in China?), you don't know and never ask. What kinds of manipulation went into getting them to make it? You've probably never asked. But it is not possible for everyone to be treated fairly always. There just isn't enough stuff in the world for everyone to get some. So people take, and make up reasons to justify it. What the system does promise you is that you will have the same chance to prove your innocence/escape punishment that everyone else has (although it's probably a lie).
You take your chances in the system because you like the benefits that come with it- running water, electric light, refrigeration, electronics, education, communication, hygiene, food that you don't have to grow yourself, etc. With all of those, the people producing them are being given a certain amount of blind trust, i.e., innocent until proven guilty.

what you're thinking is still wrong even if you're not doing anything about it.

Is it also wrong to have non-consensual bondage fantasies involving adults? Is there any way to vent one's aggression that isn't morally wrong?

My point is that justice is pursued for the sake of helping people get along. It isn't possible for the reality of it to conform perfectly to the flawless ideal we might decide it should be. Does that make sense? Sorry if I'm virtually-long-winded; this is a subject I've struggled with a lot, and it's no trivial issue.

 

[Journia]

I was actually pretty disappointed when I got into the tickling forums. i WAS AROUND THIRTEEN THEN. Many years older I am now. I thought that I would find stories, pics toons and clips of girls my agebeing tickled. Woe be me. I was actually disappointed. But you know, something pertaining to this subject does irk me a bit myself.

www.ticklishsubject.com is supposeed to be a tickling site for minors. But there are no threads on it that I have seen in the past seven or eight years.
How exactly is that supposed to help a person under eighteen? Perhaps they themselves are looking for pictures of girls or boys being tickled? Or cartoons.

The fact that I desired to see girls my age being tickled, was what prompted me to go out and tickled people and record. It was simply because I could not find what I was looking for, so I went out and made it myself, and asked others to help me.

yeppers.

 

[Dr. Bill Kobb]

If things do sway towards the "no images of children whatsoever" side of this arguement, there's a whole slew of avatars that're gonna have to go.

 

[IrishTickle1]

As I said before, the basis of the American legal system is innocent until proven guilty.

And so, haven't you, yourself, just confessed to being a pedophile? And are the mods obligated to hand over your IP address so that you can be tracked down? You may not go to prison if they can't find anything, but your family and friends aren't exactly going to want to talk to you anymore.

Actually, isn't child pornography described as a "visual depiction of minors", which includes drawings.

and if you take a look at the disclaimer for this site is says 2 things of note:

This site is an Adult Tickling Site

THIS WEBSITE CONTAINS GRAPHIC DEPICTIONS OF NUDITY AND SEXUAL CONDUCT

So it's an adult tickling website with graphic depictions of nudity and sexual conduct. Oh, and it has pictures of children being tickled and licking each others feet. Yeah, I can't see how any law authority could have a problem with that :umm:

 

[Yet_One_More_Idiot]

This poll has been posted all wrong.
Period.

Point is not about minor contents in general.
Point is about the comics Koopacooper is posting.

What's the difference? He knows the current letter of the law allows ppl more leeway than it used to do.
And it is exploiting it on purpose, and apparently, getting a thrill from it too.

That's what I find out of place with the whole issue.
He's not just advocating some rights for minors to be portrayed, for the sake of realism.
It would be questionable, but it would make some sense.
No, I am under the impression what he finds fun about this matter is, he knows he's treading through a legal minefield, and he's having a great time too!

Beyond and after all moral considerations, my "loophole" sense is tingling.

I know no such thing, Kalamos, you're giving me entirely far too much credit. For one thing, I didn't actually think there was a "legal minefield", I thought the subject matter of my comic was legal (though I understand that it isn't with regards to using characters copyrighted to other parties).

Also, I'm going by the rules. At the moment, they allow material such as the comic I am posting; if the rules are changed at some point, I will happily abide by them and ask for my threads to be deleted. I similarly posted the first page to the TMF, and was politely informed that it contravened their rules and had been removed, so I didn't bother them again. As it is, there's gonna be one or two pages that I won't be posting because they flat out break the rules here at TT (loli hentai).

But hey, I don't mind. This is only a tertiary forum for me to post my comic at, after the Palcomix site itself, and another forum that is more in tune with my personal tickling tastes. So if you want to remove it, please go ahead, I won't kick up a fuss. Anyone who does want to see the comic (if anyone here does want to see it, that is), should know where to find it by now anyhow.

List of threads to remove:
http://www.tickletheater.com/showthread.php?t=33256
http://www.tickletheater.com/showthread.php?t=33141
http://www.tickletheater.com/showthread.php?t=32967
http://www.tickletheater.com/showthread.php?t=32771
http://www.tickletheater.com/showthread.php?t=32667
http://www.tickletheater.com/showthread.php?t=32061

PS. I don't particularly enjoy causing a fuss. I just happen to be spectacularly liberal minded about some stuff...oh, and you can delete this thread as well if you think it'll help calm things round here. I'll keep my stuff on the Palcomix site from now on.

 

[Kalamos]

I know no such thing, Kalamos, you're giving me entirely far too much credit. For one thing, I didn't actually think there was a "legal minefield", I thought the subject matter of my comic was legal (though I understand that it isn't with regards to using characters copyrighted to other parties).

I checked Palcomix.
I think I am giving due credit when I say that hiring artists to draw loli hentai is courting trouble.
Maybe I'm being a coward.

PS. I don't particularly enjoy causing a fuss. I just happen to be spectacularly liberal minded about some stuff...oh, and you can delete this thread as well if you think it'll help calm things round here. I'll keep my stuff on the Palcomix site from now on.

I am not asking you to remove stuff.
After all, it would be self-damaging to a drawing artist to ask for the removal of drawing pieces.
As you mentioned elsewhere, what goes around might come around.

What I'd like to point out is, we all should be extra careful, given the current political climate.
That's all I have to say.
My own open or close-mindedness is of no concern here.

 

[OriamRepus1]

I thought of this last night, but was in bed, so I didn't post it.

Innocent until proven guilty = it's ok if you don't get caught

what you're thinking is still wrong even if you're not doing anything about it.

It may be morally wrong, but I have to say...I'd rather have five hundred pedophiles just getting their kicks off of lolicon rather than one pedophile getting his kicks off of raping real children because he can't get satisfaction elsewhere.

This is a point I was about to make in some of my extended thoughts on the matter, but theres no need now, since you did it for me.

What I don't like is people in the community who don't like the proactive approach to keeping a forum safe. Its that proactivity thats lowering the chances of us going under, and I appriciate any effort. What I don't appriciate is people making excuses for things which, no matter which way you slice it, are not going to be seem your way by "the MAN" should he or some disgruntled force (external or internal) decide otherwise.

Its a damn shame an entire community would have to go to any great length just to avoid a problem with any random person that could come along, but, thats the price you pay for being into something like this.

One thing I also don't agree with is how people talk about the potential of things happening and going wrong. There is no potential people. The material doesn't decide what it is, and neither do you. Once you accept that Big Brother doesn't give a shit, you can go about your business in a more productive manner. Not caring that Big Brother gives a shit is the root of the problem. It creates a rebellious sort of atmosphere where "we're going to continue this until we get caught!"

Continuing forward in a manner which is not proactive is like going forward on a wing and a prayer, and that is complete and utter foolishness. This site shouldn't be put in danger because so and so thought that cute little chibi was cuter than it was provactive and others, subsequentally, agree. We have to swallow the pride of our own personal opinions and look at things in the big picture. Theres more to lose than just not being able to post loli or whatever the taboo is. Right or wrong it doesn't matter in the legal opinion if you're on the wrong side of the law.

People need to take everything into consideration.

Well yeah. The bottom line isn't about thought policing or whether pedophiles are people or not. This is really about whether lolicon should be posted on the forum, when it can become a huge liability. I myself, don't really care. I voted for it just because. I can get the stuff elsewhere if I wanted. I was pretty much digressing into the territory of making a point just to make a point.

It was a good debate though. The people I usually debate with, the arguments usually turn into a bunch of name-calling. I know exactly why this is and why there is a difference, but it's not relevant.

Of course, if people weren't such self-righteous pricks, then we'd have nothing to worry about. However, there will always be that moral crusader trying to rid the world of all things they consider bad. That's something you can do nothing about but try to avoid at all costs by bending to their "holier-than-thou" mindset. We will go along with you just so you don't find a loophole and sue our asses!

 

[Cybertickler]

List of threads to remove:
http://www.tickletheater.com/showthread.php?t=33256
http://www.tickletheater.com/showthread.php?t=33141
http://www.tickletheater.com/showthread.php?t=32967
http://www.tickletheater.com/showthread.php?t=32771
http://www.tickletheater.com/showthread.php?t=32667
http://www.tickletheater.com/showthread.php?t=32061

Notice how the posts are all yours? Doesn't that say something to you?

 

[OriamRepus1]

I was actually pretty disappointed when I got into the tickling forums. i WAS AROUND THIRTEEN THEN. Many years older I am now. I thought that I would find stories, pics toons and clips of girls my agebeing tickled. Woe be me. I was actually disappointed. But you know, something pertaining to this subject does irk me a bit myself.

www.ticklishsubject.com is supposeed to be a tickling site for minors. But there are no threads on it that I have seen in the past seven or eight years.
How exactly is that supposed to help a person under eighteen? Perhaps they themselves are looking for pictures of girls or boys being tickled? Or cartoons.

The fact that I desired to see girls my age being tickled, was what prompted me to go out and tickled people and record. It was simply because I could not find what I was looking for, so I went out and made it myself, and asked others to help me.

yeppers.

I wasn't aware that the site had any content on it at all.

But I completely agree, and was in the same situation. Of course, having a site that would cater to the younger tickling crowd would soon become a haven for pedophiles because that's where they can get their fix. So it all comes back to the same problem. Damn those peodphiles! Ruining everything!

And yeah, I'll reiterate again what I've said so my times already: I'd rather have pedophiles looking at fictionalized stuff than going out doing it themselves. Like you said, you could find nothing to...Satisfy you, so you had to resort to doing it yourself (and apparently, you still do). I suppose that's the same situation for a lot of other people with any kind of "strange" sexual interest or whatever. If food is not delivered to you, you're gonna have to go get it yourself.

Which is why I think drawings are the best way you can go. Fictional characters. No children get harmed, and the people who like the stuff get what they want without resorting to drastic measures.

 

[IrishTickle1]

I'd rather have pedophiles looking at fictionalized stuff than going out doing it themselves.

In fairness, pornography doesn't really cause or halt criminal behaviour.

Looking on the TMF, it's odd the replies on this topic posted there. Nobody has tried to defend it at all.

 

[chicag0]

Wow.

This thread is rather disturbing, as are the poll results.

I'll post here what I posted on the TMF in terms of this topic.

Seeing as how this site is an adult fetish site dedicated to tickling, even a cartoon picture, or story, where the underage character is not tickled, doesn't seem appropriate.

It may also blur the lines for some people as to what's allowed, what isn't, what's appropriate, what isn't, and may open up a can of worms that the mods here don't want to deal with, and many of us certainly don't want to see.

It's bad enough that there is such a problem with underage members (myself included, as I registered too young), but I feel if you need to be 18 to view this site, 18 to be a member, 18 to buy porn, etc, then if you write a story or create a picture, your characters should all be of age.

 

[OriamRepus1]

Wow.

This thread is rather disturbing, as are the poll results.

I'll post here what I posted on the TMF in terms of this topic.

Seeing as how this site is an adult fetish site dedicated to tickling, even a cartoon picture, or story, where the underage character is not tickled, doesn't seem appropriate.

It may also blur the lines for some people as to what's allowed, what isn't, what's appropriate, what isn't, and may open up a can of worms that the mods here don't want to deal with, and many of us certainly don't want to see.

It's bad enough that there is such a problem with underage members (myself included, as I registered too young), but I feel if you need to be 18 to view this site, 18 to be a member, 18 to buy porn, etc, then if you write a story or create a picture, your characters should all be of age.

Yeah, that's another good point. This site caters to adults who like material featuring other adults. If you want underage material, it's best to go elsewhere.

My arguments in this thread have more been more about the whole problem about pedophilia and stuff, not so much whether the images should be posted here. Despite whatever I or anyone else says, it's an adult community, and should feature content as such. You don't go to a video game forum looking for movie content.

It's a liability and really doesn't belong. I voted for it just because the other answer seemed too..."NO U PEDO!!!!!" for my tastes.

 

[Kalamos]

I still think that this poll is not binding or in any way really representative of users' real intentions.

There are around 40.000 unique accounts, and probably 10.000-20.000 recurring users.
Only 57 voted as I am typing.
And 34 showed some interest in kid toons.

34 vs 40.000.
This is what I call silent majority vs vocal minority.
Only ppl interested in kid toons are going to vote, so the whole poll is slanted.

Sure, we might claim that more should cast a vote - but seriously, users are *LAZY*.
It takes an active interest to reply.

...

Personally, I'd raise the bar from 18 to 28 anyway.

😉

 

[chicag0]

I also think that the majority of people on this site find tickling to be sexually arousing. If the majority didn't, the content and discussions would be very very different.

I don't think that people who found tickling as an innocent hobby would take the time to search, register, and keep coming back to a site that was dedicated to a FETISH for the act.

And since this isn't an art forum, I don't see the point in catering to the few who don't find tickling arousing, when doing so could cause problems.

 

[Betchass1]

What's with those goddamn Precious Moments figurines, anyway? THAT is disturbing. Big old swollen heads, looking all lovey-dovey.
http://img184.imageshack.us/my.php?image=preciousswanwu2.jpg
http://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=precioussweepcs6.jpg

They're like child pornography for women. Hugh Grant movies are fine, but for the love of god, not with children!

 

[Umojar]

As long as they look 18, I say it should be allowed. I've done art of characters that are most likely underaged. But the age isn't really made clear, and I tend to make them look older subconsciously. Other than that, I can't say that fictional underage material is wrong, I think that it's a slippery slope if it is allowed.

 

[Journia]

But I completely agree, and was in the same situation. Of course, having a site that would cater to the younger tickling crowd would soon become a haven for pedophiles because that's where they can get their fix. So it all comes back to the same problem. Damn those peodphiles! Ruining everything!

Like you said, you could find nothing to...Satisfy you, so you had to resort to doing it yourself (and apparently, you still do).

Yes, of course, I never got any sexual satisfaction. Just seeing girls tickled is what interests me. Darn pedophiles....ruining my fun....

 

[Journia]

I don't think that people who found tickling as an innocent hobby would take the time to search, register, and keep coming back to a site that was dedicated to a FETISH for the act.

Well, tickling on the internet is commonly referred to as a fetish, and has been for a while. I haven't seen a tickling partialist's forum. Perhaps one should be made, in order for others to find what they desire without being called a fetishist. Because apparently, it is the situation of seven bad tomatoes in one dozen, poisoning the whole bunch.