Should any underage material be allowed on the Theater?

[Excess]

I wasn't really that upset about it, I was just trying to what I was saying across bluntly, as well as someone's attention, and it apparently did get someones attention, so I don't regret it.

You know, I'm surprised no one's thought of the fact that maybe this sort of thing provides sexual outlets for pedos who would otherwise be preying on actual children.

Oh, I've thought about that, but it isn't needed here to cause even more debate among people. There are already plenty of places that offer that, so if you need to get off to it, then you can easily just go there.

Personal business is personal business. It's when it becomes other peoples business that it becomes your problem. Until then, stressing your pretty little head over who gets off to what is a waste of energy.

So this whole topic isn't about a few peoples business becoming other peoples business? I SO did not know that! Thanks so much for showing me the light. <_<

The material that is still allowed carries no real legal risk at this time and is more of a danger to our image than to the forum's existence.

Well if that's the case, then, I have no real problem with it. Underage material is a thin line, and knowing just where to cut that line is a difficult thing sometimes, especially with art. While I may think it best that it be kept away from here, the decision you'd made is one I approve.

To sum up: I think the current forum rules are reasonable, both ethically and legally. But I also think this PPG series has violated those rules, and should be deleted.

As far as that goes, he seems to have realised this, as he no longer posts them on here, a decision I agree with. It is an example of what needs to be kept out of this kind of site.

 

[Kalamos]

What's the matter? Can't settle for a woman who's not tied up?

One might retort back: "what's the matter? Can't settle for a grown woman?".

...

This is why we should keep this as far from personal as possible.
It is about laws and rules.

 

[His Divine Shadow]

One might retort back: "what's the matter? Can't settle for a grown woman?".

...

This is why we should keep this as far from personal as possible.
It is about laws and rules.

Absolutely. Please try to remain civil; debate the issue, not the person.

 

[Zeratul1]

One might retort back: "what's the matter? Can't settle for a grown woman?".

...

This is why we should keep this as far from personal as possible.
It is about laws and rules.

My intention with that was to point out that Viper was using a double-standard, sort of a pot-to-kettle thing.

 

[footamateur]

So do you not consider a male licking a female's foot, sucking her toes, to be sexual?

Besides, YOU missed an important part: tickling is considered by the vast majority here to BE a sexual act. That's why this forum exists.

Good try.

Ok, let's see....where did I said that i approve an adult man that lick and suck a little girl's toes? don't put in my mouth words that i never said.

You said something that was not complete (read it again, maybe is not clear what it means to abuse of minors and what it really means to be a pedophile from the legal point of view; check the sentences of the jury arounjd US adn in EU and look at what they said and did; then you will hav ea clear vision of what it mean); I can approve what you say, but don 't tr5y to demonize the tickling; otherwise let's shut down all the sites that has girls barefeet, because 90% of teh people on this planet tha look for girls barefeet ARE turned on by them, not for the "beauty of teh feet"...cmon, these are fairy tales.

Tickling is a fetish, and like other said (Kalamos if i remeber well), the difference is made by teh context:

Little girl tickled here = banned
little giurl tickled on youtube = OK
little girl tickled on the beach or whetever = ultra OK

Because tickling is not illegal, the thing that is illegal is the tickling of a little girl in a place where people jerk their willies watching these stuff.

Guns are not illegal, but they became a weapon if the person does a bad use of them to kill others; tickling at the same way is not illegal by itself, but became illegal on a fetish adult forum.

Jeez....even with teh Nazi there was m0ore freedom and less limitations LOL

This is why we should keep this as far from personal as possible.
It is about laws and rules.

These are personale preferences, adn i don't see any reason why somebody would reveal that he likes lolicon or real young girls or jerking off with a drawing of a young tickled or with a video of a young tickled.....everybody is so open now? i remember when the tickling forum started, and people waqs even worried to chat about it on the old version of the TMF; adn now everybody goes around US asking girls in public to tickle them (or worst...doing it to childrens, expecially in places where they need money like easstern EU)....some things are private and should stay private, like if you didn't pay the taxes 🙂 would you go around saying that you didn't pay the taxes and being proud of it?

Freedom of speech and of thinking is one thing, share their perversion with peopel that didn't asked for it or didn't want to listen ebcause they don't like it is another thing 🙂 i keep for me what I like, and unless the laws change and the actual morals change, some things should stay inside each one of us (like your political party or your SSN), unless you are on a forum that talks specifically of, for example, young girls that love to put cream on tehir feet and lick each other's feet.

That's my oopinion of course; if somebody want to express himself or herself here, confident that is protected by the real world anbd that can say whatever he/she wants I will not oppose for sure ; is not my forum and thank god I'm not in a position of deciding anything 🙂 it must be hard to control a board, expecially after that it reach this size, without obliterate teh ideas of the others.

Still surprised how this conversation went so far, compared to the one on TMF, where they simply clsoed the topic with harsh words.

 

[Yet_One_More_Idiot]

As for the PPG series that began this controversy, it strikes me that these toons have shown the limits of what should be allowed here. At first, they seemed cute and harmless, and I said as much. I became troubled when a certain image was included in an early panel (which wasn't posted here, but was still part of the series). I became more troubled as the series continued to move away from tickling into foot worship and other overtly sexual overtones. Most of the recent panels in this series do not, I think, belong here.

Many anime characters are technically under 18, but the art including them rarely crosses any lines. I have no problem with, for example, the many Sailormoon or Pokemon tickling pics that have been posted here. That's why I voted here that carefully limited, NON real-life "underage" content should be allowed (though the characters I mentioned rarely look underaged).


This PPG series, though, I have to say has crossed the line.

I don't say that to insult or judge Koopacooper. I'm only judging whether this toon series belongs here. I don't think it does.

To sum up: I think the current forum rules are reasonable, both ethically and legally. But I also think this PPG series has violated those rules, and should be deleted.

UNO

Very fair points, U. N. Owen. And that move towards subject matter that is inappropriate for TT will continue; the next two pages are wholly unsuitable for posting here, and violate current TT terms and regs. I won't be posting any more of my comic up here; it's up to the mods whether to just let the existing pages sink without a trace, or to remove them completely. 🙂

O, and thank you for your unbiased opinion on the comic's subject matter only.

Lovers was intended in "that" way I'm sure that you studied Greek history, beside of poets and things like that, they were a bunch of people that loved to eat, fornicate and do whatever with whoever, simply because doing it with a little girl (or a boy) or with their mother/cousin/sisters or the male conuterparts was not a moral problem at all.

I could agree on the romantic meaning, that is admirable, but i would not even consider the idea of saying in public what you said they will not loose time tracking your IP or stuff like that, but i would feel unconfortable knowing that somebody can say openly somewhere that he loves children (without offense), after all tehy bad things taht you see everyday around you.

I wasn't really trying to debate the semantics of the word "lover", Footamateur, thanks for your comments though. 🙂 What I meant to stress was the love I have in general for children, rather than a child molester who is only interested in his own pleasure at the expense of traumatising the child.

 

[Dr. Bill Kobb]

My biggest problem with these comic pages?

No Mojo-Jojo. How in the f**k you could have a comic about tickling the Powerpuff Girls made-to-order and not include one of the all-time great cartoon villains in the plot is beyond me. :snob:

 

[IrishTickle1]

Well I did a little looking around, and although I'm still waiting for some responses to emails I sent (damn you americans and your crazy time-zones!), the basic consensus of the legal definition of child pornography extends to drawings and other "virtual definitions" (apparently there's some case laws to do with this and I'm hoping to be sent the actual laws that outline this later tonight, if not tomorrow). So the pictures on the site are illegal if they have children in sexually suggestive situations, which technically can be seen in all child pictures on this site, since it's an sexual adult site. So if someone complains, although it'd depend on the judge, chances are against turning a blind eye.

Also, for the benefit of Zeratul:

Pedophilia does not have to manifest itself in a physical act and fantasizing about children in a sexual manner is illegal, but very hard to prove (but it can be done. It's a mental disorder and has a high success rate in treatment.

My intention with that was to point out that Viper was using a double-standard, sort of a pot-to-kettle thing.

He takes legal pictures of women of a legal age who agree to it. It may be to fulfill a sexual fantasy of having women in bondage.

You are a pedophile and need help/jail.

I know who I'd rather have lunch with.

(oh, and if the authorities ask the admins, they must give you IP address to them so that you can be tracked down. Have a nice day 🙂 )

NB: as I said, with a bit of luck, I'll edit this later a put in the relevant laws and case files etc, although from what I've read so far, law is soooooo boring!)


Oh, and I also thought I'd add, something which I found quite surprising. From a quote by some researchers who authoured the book "Special Problems with Sexual Abuse Cases" apparently a child molester and a pedophile are not the same thing:

“Although the terms are often used interchangeably, a distinction must be made between ‘sex offender against a minor’ and ‘pedophile’. The former refers to a criminal sexual behavior and the latter to an anomalous sexual preference. Many pedophiles never act on their impulses. At the same time, not all sex offenders against a minor are pedophiles.”

Just thought I'd throw that in there as I would have thought they'd be the same thing.

 

[chicag0]

In my humble opinion, pedophilia is not wrong. Child molestation, on the other hand, is a terrible thing.

There is a big difference between what is wrong and what is illegal. And while being a pedophile (having sexual urges towards children) is not illegal, acting on those urges is.

However, both of those things are very very wrong. I would say, if you had thoughts of killing others, homicidal thoughts, you should seek help, even if you don't think you would ever act on them. Because, while having homicidal thoughts is not illegal and acting on them is, the thought process isn't normal, acceptable or healthy. And while you may not think so, it can be dangerous as well.

As should pedophiles and those who get off on children in sexual predicaments.

 

[His Divine Shadow]

(oh, and if the authorities ask the admins, they must give you IP address to them so that you can be tracked down. Have a nice day 🙂 )

Just a note from the Privacy Policy on the Rules page regarding what we do with information on members, past or present:

Your privacy is important to us at TickleTheater. Which is why we will not release any member information unless under court order to do so.

So yes, presented with an order from a court of law we must give up member information. If simply "asked" we will not.

*Leaves, as he has said all he has to say on this subject*

 

[footamateur]

Well I did a little looking around, and although I'm still waiting for some responses to emails I sent (damn you americans and your crazy time-zones!), the basic consensus of the legal definition of child pornography extends to drawings and other "virtual definitions" (apparently there's some case laws to do with this and I'm hoping to be sent the actual laws that outline this later tonight, if not tomorrow). So the pictures on the site are illegal if they have children in sexually suggestive situations, which technically can be seen in all child pictures on this site, since it's an sexual adult site. So if someone complains, although it'd depend on the judge, chances are against turning a blind eye.

Also, for the benefit of Zeratul:

Pedophilia does not have to manifest itself in a physical act and fantasizing about children in a sexual manner is illegal, but very hard to prove (but it can be done. It's a mental disorder and has a high success rate in treatment.



He takes legal pictures of women of a legal age who agree to it. It may be to fulfill a sexual fantasy of having women in bondage.

You are a pedophile and need help/jail.

I know who I'd rather have lunch with.

(oh, and if the authorities ask the admins, they must give you IP address to them so that you can be tracked down. Have a nice day 🙂 )

NB: as I said, with a bit of luck, I'll edit this later a put in the relevant laws and case files etc, although from what I've read so far, law is soooooo boring!)


Oh, and I also thought I'd add, something which I found quite surprising. From a quote by some researchers who authoured the book "Special Problems with Sexual Abuse Cases" apparently a child molester and a pedophile are not the same thing:



Just thought I'd throw that in there as I would have thought they'd be the same thing.

1) to prove something like you said you need to show that the pictures has a sexual relevance (even if a girl is not naked it can be evident the sexual allusion), in this case you are right, the chances are low to apss trough this, but the detention of such material is not punished like you think, since the big consequences are for who create teh images/pictures and for who distribute them, not for who detain the images, that is usually dismissed with a warning and a monetary fee.

2)we are not talking of teh images that are poset here only, but the discussion was going on a much more general line, and the fact taht you point that the images here are illegal is something that teh mods will take care of, so if tehy decided that they are ok they are OK; but in general, to return to the original discussion started 4 pages ago, tickling si not considered child porn by itself; the act of posting innocent tickling pics or vids on an adult board can be considered a penal infringment of the international laws.

3) whatever you think is your personal opinion, Zeratul can say something that i and others doesn't approve, but this doesn't give you the right to judge him for what he think or want, so i would suggest that if you don't approve simply move on isntead of leaving such unfriendly comments for other users; otherwise show how brave you are a dn make a request to FBI to pursue him; let's see how much time they will take to laugh at your request, adn how much time they will take, in case tehy go on and continue the research on him, to put you in a trial as witness, and iI want to see you in a court saying that you love tickling and that you hate his tendency of thinking about child tickling or whatever he likes 🙂 somehow like an assassin that testify against an assassin that killed 2 people isntead of one: to testify against the other assassin he must put himself in a situation where he will admit that he killed somebody.

4) as you see the pedophiles and the sexual offender s that does crimes against the childrens are not the same; you would save time if you would read what i wrote many posts ago 🙂 I knwo that you want to see it published somewhere else , becaus emaybe i'm a poor stupid that doesn't know anything and that simply breath air outside without knowing anything....sorry; many people does that, so I'm trying to say things that are real 🙂

 

[His Divine Shadow]

Deleted. I ignored my own advice and attacked the poster(s) and their ideas, not the posting. I apologize to any who may have felt/feel offended.

 

[IrishTickle1]

1) to prove something like you said you need to show that the pictures has a sexual relevance (even if a girl is not naked it can be evident the sexual allusion), in this case you are right, the chances are low to apss trough this, but the detention of such material is not punished like you think, since the big consequences are for who create teh images/pictures and for who distribute them, not for who detain the images, that is usually dismissed with a warning and a monetary fee.

My point was that images of children on a sexual site do not bode well for those users who use the site for legal means.

2)we are not talking of teh images that are poset here only, but the discussion was going on a much more general line, and the fact taht you point that the images here are illegal is something that teh mods will take care of, so if tehy decided that they are ok they are OK; but in general, to return to the original discussion started 4 pages ago, tickling si not considered child porn by itself; the act of posting innocent tickling pics or vids on an adult board can be considered a penal infringment of the international laws.

If they decide they are ok it is NOT ok, they are still illegal if the government says they are illegal. Going back to extreme cases, if you say murder is lega, can you legally kill someone then?

3) whatever you think is your personal opinion, Zeratul can say something that i and others doesn't approve, but this doesn't give you the right to judge him for what he think or want, so i would suggest that if you don't approve simply move on isntead of leaving such unfriendly comments for other users; otherwise show how brave you are a dn make a request to FBI to pursue him; let's see how much time they will take to laugh at your request, adn how much time they will take, in case tehy go on and continue the research on him, to put you in a trial as witness, and iI want to see you in a court saying that you love tickling and that you hate his tendency of thinking about child tickling or whatever he likes 🙂 somehow like an assassin that testify against an assassin that killed 2 people isntead of one: to testify against the other assassin he must put himself in a situation where he will admit that he killed somebody.

He admited to being a pedophile hence a pedophile I have called him. Simple as. And I'd gladly admit to enjoying tickling people if it'll get a pedophile the help they need. You can hardly compare the two!

4) as you see the pedophiles and the sexual offender s that does crimes against the childrens are not the same; you would save time if you would read what i wrote many posts ago 🙂 I knwo that you want to see it published somewhere else , becaus emaybe i'm a poor stupid that doesn't know anything and that simply breath air outside without knowing anything....sorry; many people does that, so I'm trying to say things that are real 🙂

And you should stop looking to be insulted, because I didn't. Having EVIDENCE helps when winning an argument. Otherwise I can say that anything and never have to back it up. (hence the "Pedophilia is harmless" thinking of apparently many people here.

 

[Beaunanza]

I think that any site that has a minimum age limit to join should also keep that same restriction as regards postings. It only makes sense. As far as the underage art is concerned, I initially thought, "no big deal", but upon further reflection I don't think it should be allowed. HOWEVER, I can't really tell the difference between a cartoon of a 17 year-old and a 25 year-old. Really young kids are obvious to point out in a drawing, but get a little older with them and its difficult to tell. So the question in my mind really becomes, where is the line? Its a tough decision that I'm glad I don't have to make.

 

[IrishTickle1]

I think that any site that has a minimum age limit to join should also keep that same restriction as regards postings. It only makes sense. As far as the underage art is concerned, I initially thought, "no big deal", but upon further reflection I don't think it should be allowed. HOWEVER, I can't really tell the difference between a cartoon of a 17 year-old and a 25 year-old. Really young kids are obvious to point out in a drawing, but get a little older with them and its difficult to tell. So the question in my mind really becomes, where is the line? Its a tough decision that I'm glad I don't have to make.

That's a damn good point. Could it be a case that if the artist says it's a 25yo it's ok, but if they say it's a 17yo it's not. The advocates argument would be that anyone can draw a kid and say they are older, but that's where common sense would have to take over, to see if someone really is just taking the piss or not.

 

[Zeratul1]

Also, for the benefit of Zeratul:

Pedophilia does not have to manifest itself in a physical act and fantasizing about children in a sexual manner is illegal, but very hard to prove (but it can be done. It's a mental disorder and has a high success rate in treatment.

He takes legal pictures of women of a legal age who agree to it. It may be to fulfill a sexual fantasy of having women in bondage.

You are a pedophile and need help/jail.

I know who I'd rather have lunch with.

(oh, and if the authorities ask the admins, they must give you IP address to them so that you can be tracked down. Have a nice day 🙂 )

You know, most of you seem to be missing the part where I've never raped a child and never will.

You also, in your haste to denounce me as a disgusting monster, didn't take any time to learn more about me. Lolikon is far from being the only thing I'm into (I like adult women just fine, and I see loli as being something of a guilty pleasure that doesn't really hurt anyone), and I'm currently involved in a relationship with a girl who's of consenting age. See, you just can't make assumptions about people.

I think what's happened here in this thread is that you saw me come into this thread and openly admit that I look at lolikon, and many of you sort of mentally branded me and began associating me with these monsters you see on the news. That's not what I am.

Let me ask you something. Do you feel satisfied with coming on this message board and accusing me of all sorts of things and telling me how disgusting I am? Will you keyboard cowboys and desktop vigilantes go to bed tonight grinning, with thoughts of "I did something to help stop child molestation today. I'm a goddamn superhero." dancing around in your self-aggrandizing little heads?

Or does ganging up on someone weirder than you just make you feel maybe a little bit less fucked up about being into something as weird as tickling or bondage or what have you? Is that maybe why you foist all these negative labels on me? Because it makes you feel more normal to disassociate yourselves from me and my assorted paraphilia?

You know, I'm in total agreement with you all on the fact that anyone who would harm a child is reprehensible in the worst way and deserves to be punished accordingly.

I do not, however, agree with forcing help upon people like me who don't need it. I'm a responsible, functioning member of society who's never commited a crime in his life. Stick to your own moral codes, and stop trying to force them on me. The things I fantasize about and the drawings I look at on the internet aren't hurting anyone.

 

[Cybertickler]

You also, in your haste to denounce me as a disgusting monster, didn't take any time to learn more about me. Lolikon is far from being the only thing I'm into (I like adult women just fine, and I see loli as being something of a guilty pleasure that doesn't really hurt anyone), and I'm currently involved in a relationship with a girl who's of consenting age. See, you just can't make assumptions about people.

Reminds me of something I hear from racists alot.

"I'm not racist, I swear! I like black people! I have black friends! I like Michael Jordan!"

 

[footamateur]

Everyboduy knows the movei "lolita" from stanley Kubriock, right? and after that a lot of people saw it, many of them was thinking about the main character and feeling like "what would i do if i would be in his shoes?"


Does this mean that all the emn are pedophiles? no; this mean that this kind of stuff can be interesting for the FANTASY of somebody (otherwise i would not explain why teh male human being tend to have a parthner that is younger than them, with some exceptions of course), but when the fantasy became reality this is the moment when the people shoud start to worry and seek help.

I repeat myself: everybody in any kind of media (magazie, movies, music, commercials) tend to put stuff that people love, or that people cahn be interested in; so you will see that many comemrcials has girls barefeet (now also childrens, and toddlers too, since a new "disturbing" sub faction of teh foot lovers arise: the lovers of the toddler's feet) or young and sensual little girls that barely reach 16 to make a new movie, anew song or a new commercial of bathsuits or lingerie or even soap and products for the house.

This is a clear signal that those stuff are more likely to be interesting for a large audience, otherwise these people wouyld not put all the efforts in doing such type of commercials and movies and whatevere else...

Are we all become pedophiles? the answer is NO, but we must admit that the time changes,a dn the people changes too, and with them their tabu and their hypocrit point of view, so i would not eb surprised to see that tickling young girls will soon became normal, and people will start to not feel so offended about this kind of vision 🙂

From my POV I don't like many things, but i keep them for myself to not offend anybody; for sure whatever happen around me changes me and my way to see the things everyday, but I will never accept any act of violence or constriction against grow up woman or childrens, whatever the law say.

 

[Zeratul1]

Reminds me of something I hear from racists alot.

"I'm not racist, I swear! I like black people! I have black friends! I like Michael Jordan!"

lol Godwin's law :super_hap

Seriously though, congratulations on ignoring the entirety of my post except for that one bit, which you still managed to twist around heavily in a rather piss-poor attempt to make me look bad, Mr. Expensive-Car-I-Don't-Actually-Own-Outside-of-Gran-Turismo-4.

 

[Cybertickler]

attempt to make me look bad

You do it well enough on your own.

btw I don't own GT4. 😀 It's just been my dream car since I was about fourteen.

What's a matter? never had any childhood dreams? Might explain the pedopheliac tendencies. 😉

 

[IrishTickle1]

This'll probably be my last post of the night, because this is going nowhere fast and need sleep.

You know, most of you seem to be missing the part where I've never raped a child and never will.

You don't have to molest someone to be a pedophile and being a pedophile is wrong! (if you don't believe me then go around to all your neighbours and tell them. See how they feel.)

You also, in your haste to denounce me as a disgusting monster, didn't take any time to learn more about me. Lolikon is far from being the only thing I'm into (I like adult women just fine, and I see loli as being something of a guilty pleasure that doesn't really hurt anyone), and I'm currently involved in a relationship with a girl who's of consenting age. See, you just can't make assumptions about people.

Well you admitted to being turned on by images of children. It is not unusual for a pedophile to have other sexual interests and even partners. (There are many gay men with wives. Does this mean they're not gay?)

I think what's happened here in this thread is that you saw me come into this thread and openly admit that I look at lolikon, and many of you sort of mentally branded me and began associating me with these monsters you see on the news. That's not what I am.

...because 1+1=...
You said you are turned on by lolikon and it doesn't help your case claiming that there's nothing wrong with Pedophilia (although Nambla will surely back you up)

Let me ask you something. Do you feel satisfied with coming on this message board and accusing me of all sorts of things and telling me how disgusting I am? Will you keyboard cowboys and desktop vigilantes go to bed tonight grinning, with thoughts of "I did something to help stop child molestation today. I'm a goddamn superhero." dancing around in your self-aggrandizing little heads?

If you get the help you need then, yes, it will.

Or does ganging up on someone weirder than you just make you feel maybe a little bit less fucked up about being into something as weird as tickling or bondage or what have you? Is that maybe why you foist all these negative labels on me? Because it makes you feel more normal to disassociate yourselves from me and my assorted paraphilia?

The United States see pedophilia as a mental sickness and a dangerous one at that. Is it surprising that users don't want this site shut down because you fantasize of sex with children?

You know, I'm in total agreement with you all on the fact that anyone who would harm a child is reprehensible in the worst way and deserves to be punished accordingly.

I do not, however, agree with forcing help upon people like me who don't need it. I'm a responsible, functioning member of society who's never commited a crime in his life. Stick to your own moral codes, and stop trying to force them on me. The things I fantasize about and the drawings I look at on the internet aren't hurting anyone.

Well again, that's where you and the law disagree. As I said, pedophilia is regarded as a sickness, whether you accept it or not.


edit: and on another note, was this topic removed from the TMF?

 

[Cybertickler]

Keep in mind that this discussion, as degraded as it's becoming, is about the Theater, not the United State law. The Theater is a dictatorship. Justifying your thoughts according to the US (or any other country's) law is one thing, trying to apply it in practice as per the censorship of images here is another thing.

 

[Kalamos]

The Theater is a dictatorship.

We'd rather use the term "benevolent oligarchy"... 😉

 

[Zeratul1]

You don't have to molest someone to be a pedophile and being a pedophile is wrong! (if you don't believe me then go around to all your neighbours and tell them. See how they feel.)

Most of my neighbors sell meth.

Well you admitted to being turned on by images of children. It is not unusual for a pedophile to have other sexual interests and even partners. (There are many gay men with wives. Does this mean they're not gay?)

The original point being that I'm not likely to molest a child because I've got plenty of other sexual interests. Ignore that though. I'm a filthy monster and don't deserve to have my points interpreted properly after all.

...because 1+1=...
You said you are turned on by lolikon and it doesn't help your case claiming that there's nothing wrong with Pedophilia (although Nambla will surely back you up)

NAMBLA is a fucking horrid organization because it actually advocates legalizing sex with children, which I don't. Stop insinuating that I do.

If you get the help you need then, yes, it will.

I don't need help.

The United States see pedophilia as a mental sickness and a dangerous one at that. Is it surprising that users don't want this site shut down because you fantasize of sex with children?

You can tell me how things are in the United States when you move here and live here for 20 years.

Well again, that's where you and the law disagree. As I said, pedophilia is regarded as a sickness, whether you accept it or not.

Some would argue that homosexuality is a sickness, or any paraphilia for that matter.

 

[IrishTickle1]

Keep in mind that this discussion, as degraded as it's becoming, is about the Theater, not the United State law. The Theater is a dictatorship. Justifying your thoughts according to the US (or any other country's) law is one thing, trying to apply it in practice as per the censorship of images here is another thing.

But it's a site within the US so it has to abid by the US laws (hence all the copyright problems etc)